Quote from: camosoul on June 30, 2014, 04:52:50 AM

Quote from: ddink7 on June 30, 2014, 04:43:29 AM

Quote from: camosoul on June 30, 2014, 04:30:00 AM

Quote from: ddink7 on June 30, 2014, 02:27:17 AM

Quote from: Ozziecoin on June 30, 2014, 12:46:49 AM

The MNs I'm looking after has payment variance of 2 to 8 Drks. All have been paid. I think generating a new MN privkey is sufficient. Changing the IP seemed to have no extra effect for me. Hope that helps someone.

Sadly, no.

We're going on 96 hours now with no payments on my MN. I understand variance, but I'm beginning to lose faith here. Even under the most optimistic projections (500 nodes and only 50% paid blocks) we're looking at (1 - ((499/500)^(298*4))) = 91.96% chance of my node having been paid.

NO! PAY ATTENTION!

It is entirely possible, even probable and likely, that the block that would have paid you was issued by a pool that is not performing payments. The block that had your name on it might have paid you if it came from a legitimate pool.

The point being, the block that paid you was probably found, and you would have gotten paid; but there are still enough bad actors on the network that even thought the probability says you'd get paid, that block was issued by an entity that is refusing to comply and keeping the coin for itself instead of paying you like it should have.

Due to the density of bad actors still on the network, it could be as long as 2 weeks before you get paid becasue if you're exceptionally unlucky, plus that block pops out of a non-paying pool, even when you do get voted lucky, you're still not getting paid because the pool kept it for itself instead of paying you.

How many times do I have to explain this shit! It's not that fucking hard to understand...

You probably have been voted a payment. But a shitpool stole it instead of giving it to you. Spork. Enforcement OFF. Why is nobody reading this stuff? I'm not even running an MN yet and I have done my homework.. Hell, it's not even homework, just open eyes, face forward... There's some crotchety old woman set to be cloned without her knowledge who's got it all figured out...

0.9 and 0.10 might also be picking and choosing differently... That's the whole fucking point of testing this code on livenet... Testnet is too sterile to see the problems. With Spork Tehcnology, we can see the problems without borking the coin on failforks... Has this not been repeatedly explained for pages and pages on multiple forums?

Camo, I like you bud, but you can be a little high strung lol!

I don't recall seeing it explained that clearly and it makes sense that way. I'm still very intrigued by the guy that's received 14 payments...in fact I'm a little more concerned about that than I am about me. The odds have got to be phenominal, ESPECIALLY with all the bad actors.

I'm a little wound up because these facts have been clear since the moment RC3 was released... It was not explained in the same way that no one ever explained how to breathe... The facts were provided and obvious conclusions are inherently drawn by people who can read. This is the ultimate trolling done by DRK supporters, running their own MNs... The trolls went away because this crap is better than anything they can stir up... Just read it! Why would you expect anything else? I'm seriously irritated that I have to explain it... If I whack you in the face with a rusty shovel, do I have to explain that it might hurt? That it will probably hurt? That, in fact, it's very unlikely to have any other outcome other than pain? Evan laid it all out... Probability, Standard Deviation, Bad Actors... Add it up, jeez!

Look at the chart Evan posted of the payment probabilities based on the pure math. Look at all the rare payment possibilities. It is entirely possible, in fact likely, that many of those rare instances were blocks found by bad actors and thus left a hole in the probability stats... Taht might have been your block, but the shitpool stole it out from under you.

Is it entirely necessary to be an ass? I'm a college professor by profession and ranting and raving seems to produce suboptimal results, at least with my students.

If you don't have the patience to deal with non-technical guys like me, then just ignore us.

I have never once said MNs are broken. I have never once called into question the credibility of DRK. I have never once done anything to jeopardize the precious short-term price of your DRKs (like I even care about the short term, anyway?)

I'm going to post my questions and concerns here. I'm going to post my insights and triumphs here. I'm going to post the good and the bad, as I see it. If I'm wrong, you can call me out. But there's no need to be see damn volatile. THAT does more to weaken DRK than anything, by making potential users think we have a shitty community that can't even engage in polite discourse.

I've been following this thread for the last several hundred pages. You'll just have to forgive me if I mistakenly skimmed over your brilliant prior explanations.