Quote from: SebastianJu on July 29, 2014, 08:34:33 PM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on July 28, 2014, 05:35:40 PM

Is there ANY reason to believe that this 'Ukyo' is genunely trying to return the "lost" coins?

No proof available. Only his word.

Well, not quite. All _we_ have is _your_ word that he has given _his_ word. Except you won't quote to us what his word actually _is_. In clear repudiation of his fiduciary responsibility, Jon Montroll continues to dodge his creditors, choosing instead to release dribbles of vague wishywash through a pliant intermediary (sorry man - just calling it as I see it).

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Though it makes sense that the coins cant be retrieved anymore when weexchange has to go bankrupt. Its commons sense that doesnt need ukyo. Weex dont have the coins.

Weex had a pretty simple job. Hold every last one of its creditors' assets, and exchange those assets upon direction from those creditors. So tell me - what happened to those assets?

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Quote from: jbreher on July 29, 2014, 12:57:23 AM

Here is, AFAICT, the entirety of the evidence available:
- Ukyo ran some number of enterprises that held assets of others
- Those enterprises have folded
- Creditors of these enterprises have not had their assets returned
- Ukyo has not communicated his position, plans, nor intents to these creditors

OK, what am I missing?

*sigh* Again, you seem to not being able to a bit imagination.

I have plenty of imagination. None of your postulated scenarios stand up under scrutiny:

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You never heard of lawyers that says you should not say anything until things are cleared?

Yes I have. They say that in order to protect their _client's_ interests _alone_. Such does not absolve Jon Montroll of his fiduciary duty.

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Never heard of investigations where you shouldnt say anything to not risk the investigations?

Yes I have. Invariably accompanied by a statement from the relevant law enforcement agency that they will not say anything, in order to not risk the investigations. So where's the statement from the relevant 'authorities'?

Again, based upon all the evidence available to us, the only rational conclusion is that Jon Montroll has absconded with the assets, and has no plans to return them.