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i'm no fudding this coin but just want to ask what the new development of this which could be the reason if its rise? i find it interesting because most of the coins with price less than a cent are moving up even the Reddcoin and burst.
This is the new development:
https://bytecoin.org/blog/untraceable-tokens/
A cryptonote based coin with ability to create tokens to run other sub-cryptocurrency or smartcontract, would be an HUGE improvement that would open the door to tons of new scenarios.
This coin has a great design way better fee management than its "ugly fork" that has a too high fee per transaction\supply ratio. There is a lot of upside potential.
The developers have poor presence in the community but are continuing to silently release updated, 3 days ago version 2.0.2 has been released.
The developers have poor presence in the community but are continuing to silently release updated, 3 days ago version 2.0.2 has been released.
shit wallet, so pissed at this team for not fixing wallet.
Bag of BCN trapped in shit wallet.
Bag of BCN trapped in shit wallet.
the wallet seems working fine. try to download the latest version remove all files related to the older version and import your wallet private key again
Did anyone find anything what is behind this pump? Please share.
Bot polo dude
This hasn't been caused by any Bot.
Bot moves cyclically always same amount of money. This time a pretty huge quantity of money have been placed in Bytecoin for some reason. Even the GitHub project continues to silently receive updates despite a long lack of any news.
I'm wondering what is going on.
Re: I am sending few dollars in bitcoins for answers to my question
Yes I am new, but learning thanks to you all.
When Starting a new coin, how do you know what to set the initial value of the coin?
Can you set it at something like 1.00 if not listed on a exchange?
The people of this coin will only be trading it for a year before they start to sell it at market value.
Just need to know how to put an initial value for the coin, I know not all coins are in the exchanges so how do they place a value for it.
Please list your wallet ID and I will send you a small amount of bitcoins for real answers.
When Starting a new coin, how do you know what to set the initial value of the coin?
Can you set it at something like 1.00 if not listed on a exchange?
The people of this coin will only be trading it for a year before they start to sell it at market value.
Just need to know how to put an initial value for the coin, I know not all coins are in the exchanges so how do they place a value for it.
Please list your wallet ID and I will send you a small amount of bitcoins for real answers.
In
https://coinmarketcap.com/
you can check the value when they have start to list the coin but is only the value relative to listing date not before the market value.
It's very difficult to know the start value since depend on the way the initial developer and early community have decided at what price start to sell their coin units. The only way is to have followed the coin during the development and first announcements or ask to a reliable person that has followed it in very early stage before the listing in various exchange websites.
my address
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LTC is the only legit alternative currency.
All the others are bullshit like clones or anon coins or not a currency at all.
Prime Coin, Grid Coin get a worthy mention though.
Now you know
All the others are bullshit like clones or anon coins or not a currency at all.
Prime Coin, Grid Coin get a worthy mention though.
Now you know
What's new... It doesn't mean you couldn't have fun trading the other altcoins tho. Trading is a fun endeavor by itself. It's a different, kind of a fun calculated form of gambling that you can't get by betting on sports or playing poker.
If ever something big goes wrong with Bitcoin you know what the safe haven coin is.
That is like saying participating in PONZI schemes / Pyramid scheme can be fun.
True but there are victims and consequences.
Idealism has to be thrown out the window if you say that.
You can't write a coin cloning guide like Shakezulu did on Devtome saying it's "for fun & profit"
Then *try and parade around here like you have integrity.
Currencies are not suppose to be "FUN" that is retarded.
They are suppose to be a currency and how much fun is your FIAT ?
No.1 complaint of all time about Litecoin ? Is that it's boring.
More mensa caliber genius from brats children kids babies goo goo gaa suck hole profiteer kidiots.
Some of you have no problem victimizing children for lunch money here.
Oh look flashy Meme coin.. buy kids ask your Mom for money !!!11
..for fun & profit
You then say use due diligence.
Yeah.. in a crooked rigged unfair scammy lawless corrupt scene where it's not possible to get treated fairly.
It couldn't be more simple.
Most of you in the scene support bad shit for dollars $$$.
You make pathetic stupid excuses to cover it up and smooth it over.
Fun ?
Sorry profiteers but "fun" is not he topic here.
We are talking about currencies and which ones may or may not be legit.
Joke coins for "fun" are not applicable to the criteria of legitness !
Next...
Create a new currency with fake promises and bullshit to steal money from people that trust you is scam, you cannot compare trading to this. I not scam anyone buy low and selling at higher price, the whole market works in this way and everyone decide to buy isn't because I have tried to convince or deceive him.
FUN? Having more efficient and powerful design that extend the capabilities of a crypto is not for fun. Use a crypto that doesn't give any significative vantage is pointless.
Again you have written a lot of text lines but You haven't answered to my simple question. Shouldn't that difficult "Litecoin is the only legit because [insert your reason].
Not an anoncoin isn't a reason valid enough because only reduce the set of altcoins alternatives to transparent cryptocurrencies but isn't an exclusive characteristic of the only Litecoin.
Do you know all this make you looks like a frustrated Litecoin bagholder? If not, please articulate a decent answer.
I support all coins that can help people escape state and law. Because I think state and law are the evil of this world.
Then why are you here ?
Clearly your agenda is about breaking the law and battling "the man".
I came to support a currency and hopefully see it adopted and used by the public.
Do you see how you are a fucking nutcase ?
Believe it or not.. i am the normal one here
Nope.. ole Spoetnik did not come to crypto for ROI'z ..or to topple the govt's and destroy fiat.
I came to see a crypto coin make it big and get used.. i know right blasphemy.. pure heresy
So.. what coins push towards this goal ? Steem ? BlockNET ? Ethereum ? Doge ? Zcash ?
Seems to me Litecoin fits the criteria a whole lot more than all those other coins.
Ya know this isn't complicated guys..
EDIT:
Oh and i will not be supporting coins because they break the law.
Because i have not seen one made that could do it !
If the time comes when there is a coin that can reasonably side step all law then fine i will reconsider.
So far i see the early stages of an ugly battle brewing with cocky idiots pushing ANON shit.
I am not against anon coins or DM's per say..
I am against the notion we are telling people they can be done as we see them now.
We are going to have a shit storm coming with the anon coins we see already made.
All i am trying to say is i would support a reasonable and realistic and practical implementation of one should it arise.
So far i don't see one that fits the bill.
I don't support anon coins for example because all of them that have come out *so far* seem to have serious problems i think.
If one comes out that is different and can minimize the risk to the users then i will reconsider my stance.
I don't wan to see "investors" burned on exchanges or kids buying weed on DM's get arrested.
I don't care about all your ROI's.
I'm here to looking for new coins that can have some real use to profit from them buying and reselling at higher price, not "to break law", only I'm not so dumb to not see that at this time the main use of cryptocurrencies is exactly to go out of control of the law and whatever authority and not to buy from Amazon or from restaurant with credit cards that are comfortable enough.
You have said you don't like anonymous coins, ok, but I have asked you WHY you think that Litecoin meets the criteria of real use more than others altcoins. There are a whole lot of others coins that aren't for anonymous use, with more features and technical vantages than Litecoin that is only a slightly improved version of Bitcoin with the difference that Bitcoin as first crypto on the market is a standard while Litecoin is one of the hundreds "hope coins". What is your motivation?
Recently many of you may have clearly noticed the big changes in price of dash it increased then decreased. I think the simple reason for this is a huge investors simply gambling with the coin by first investing some millions and then selling it and then again buying.
What do you guys think of my theory?
Would be a part of this gamble?
What do you guys think of my theory?
Would be a part of this gamble?
invest in every altcoin is gambling since the use in real world are still based on speculation but nothing concrete at the time. The game It's only about bet on the good horse of the run. Who knows what is the right horse?
You just accused 100 Monero code writers on github of having botnets without any proof. Or " initial developers-investors" who are this? Donald Trunp. Who are this guys? They for sure not come to this forum and develop Monero code now. Who exactly are they and how you know this?
In general everyone can have botnets. You dont need to be Donald Trump. And they mine any coin that is most profitable. You dont need to be " initial developers-investors" and you will not mine Monero if there is profit elsewhere. Botnets miners as any other miners secure network.
It is huge difference to mine with botnets and sell those coins then if you just print coins to yourself with a so called mistake.
Monero never had any PR work. None so ever. All that was said was said by people that learn about it and see its value. And most are on this forum and reddit. Here on this forum many people that understand crypto and understand Monero and wrote about it was critical to other crypto projects. You mentioned Bytecoin and DASH, but was many others. This thread is result of that. This brought those people start FUDing Monero and even made some PR campaigns. I also understand Spoetnik to be just jealous on them since they steal his job revealing scams. But now after 2 years i think i was wrong.
You still had not answer GingerAlle. How many posts you will need to do till then?
In general everyone can have botnets. You dont need to be Donald Trump. And they mine any coin that is most profitable. You dont need to be " initial developers-investors" and you will not mine Monero if there is profit elsewhere. Botnets miners as any other miners secure network.
It is huge difference to mine with botnets and sell those coins then if you just print coins to yourself with a so called mistake.
Monero never had any PR work. None so ever. All that was said was said by people that learn about it and see its value. And most are on this forum and reddit. Here on this forum many people that understand crypto and understand Monero and wrote about it was critical to other crypto projects. You mentioned Bytecoin and DASH, but was many others. This thread is result of that. This brought those people start FUDing Monero and even made some PR campaigns. I also understand Spoetnik to be just jealous on them since they steal his job revealing scams. But now after 2 years i think i was wrong.
You still had not answer GingerAlle. How many posts you will need to do till then?
I have mentioned Bytecoin and Dash because they are some of the coins most attacked by Monero defamatory propaganda. The first was attacked at launch of Monero because was the original coin to implement anon ring system that Monero has copy pasted claiming to be "the fair version of Bytecoin" the second was attacked intensely due to the fact is an anoncoin that has gained popularity and price better than monero and they fear that may nullify Monero rise.
What I have said It's a fact. Who has followed this coin since the start can clearly see the abnormal hash power dispatched.
Overmining with no transparent distribution, and premine is the same, what approach between these is worst, depends only by the price that every user have to pay to get a part of the supply so that the mass of coin can be distributed between a larger number of players not remaining in the hand of few people. All the rest is senseless bullshit to FUD competitors.
Mr.AndreaF Monero was not mined on first day like the other crap coins you mention. Understand? First day was mined only like 100k Monero.
At home on your computer you cant afford to mine a fortune. Is simple. You can rent hash power and mine a fortune of Moneros. Today so as first day. everyone can! And as "DGA" or how is his nick here posted, he actually did it.
Even if I would mine all 100k Monero first day (and pay lots $ for electricity) i could not be able to make market today with those 100k Moneros. Understand?
I doubt you do since all you do here is troll. You have plenty threads of your crapcoins where you can post every hour. No need to troll here and mention them in every post.
With Monero everyone. Read here everyone could mine on first hour. And could mine 99% if would have enough $ to afford that much hash. in case of Bytcoin was that totally impossible. In case of DASH was similar. ask cryptohunter he is specialist for that crap coin.
At home on your computer you cant afford to mine a fortune. Is simple. You can rent hash power and mine a fortune of Moneros. Today so as first day. everyone can! And as "DGA" or how is his nick here posted, he actually did it.
Even if I would mine all 100k Monero first day (and pay lots $ for electricity) i could not be able to make market today with those 100k Moneros. Understand?
I doubt you do since all you do here is troll. You have plenty threads of your crapcoins where you can post every hour. No need to troll here and mention them in every post.
With Monero everyone. Read here everyone could mine on first hour. And could mine 99% if would have enough $ to afford that much hash. in case of Bytcoin was that totally impossible. In case of DASH was similar. ask cryptohunter he is specialist for that crap coin.
Maybe you have problem to read: I have clearly described that not premined means nothing if since the day of announcement if initial developers-investors have dispatched a large botnet and nobody can obtain a not hilarious quantity of satoshi without BUY from them. Buy from a botnet or buy from the developer bag change nothing in term of fairness of distribution,
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Your impression is wrong because premine isn't only way to control the most of supply. A decent Monero home mining was impossible since the first days due to hash power dispatched by developer\investors. If few people has the most of the supply I don't deserve a fuck if they have premined or they control the supply with botnets since the days after launch, the result is the same, few people own the coin and who want them have to buy from them. Bytecoin and Dash are more mined by their developers but given you the possibility to get easily a decent amount as early adopters, with Monero this wasn't possible and this isn't normal in any legit coin, unless they use large cloud botnet to control the supply since day one. Now over 14 million Monero have been mined, the double of Dash. WHO has mined them??? Certainly not a large group of users but mining clusters.
Without mention the shitty behaviors used by Monero crew to steal technology and defame the coin that have copied.
Without mention the shitty behaviors used by Monero crew to steal technology and defame the coin that have copied.
Monero hasn't a more fair distribution than Bytecoin, or Dash or whatever other anoncoin in the market. It's a fact, I'm not a Dash supporter, or a Bytecoin supporter, but Monero despite the aggressive PR work and advertising is one of the worst coin of earth in terms of fairness since not even its technical development has been fair with a copy-paste of ring Cryptonote approach of Bytecoin, with a pretty amateur development, followed by an huge defame campaign against the copied Bytecoin and all others anoncoins.
ETH have largest community and original developers... However in a cryptocurrency you must TRUST THE SYSTEM not the decisions of developers. Fork the whole blockchain because you think that is legit, and say "by now this is ETH" to help your investors, violate the base principle of a P2P cryptocurrency. The only point to have a blockchain based system is to not depend on the decisions of some central authority otherwise is only a stupid and pointless waste of energy and resources. So ETH fork decided by developers is the negation of the essence of the cryptocurrency.
I'm not a Bytecoin supporter I have invested only ten dollar in Bytecoin I prefer other cryptocurrencies however Bytecoin whatever thing you can say about developers sincerity, that very likely have lied about the date, was easily available both for free with faucets, with hilariously low prices and easy to mine even with an home PC...
The problem is fundamentally that if there's a whale that owns 80% of the stash, he can manipulate it in just any direction. No coin, "however cheap" for the rest of the 20% that is available, is believable if someone owns 80% of it.
This is also the problem with DASH: most probably half of the stash is in the hands of Evan Inc. And a smaller but similar problem exists with ETH. With bitcoin, if Satoshi has still his keys, this is a problem too, but most probably, these coins are dead.
I had the impression that there are no monero whales of that size. That there is a power distribution of possession is normal: all assets are power-law distributed after a while. But there should be an upper limit to the amount that is in the hands of a single entity, so that it cannot entirely manipulate the market. Pump and dump, sure. Unavoidable. But not at a level that was the case with Bytecoin.
Your impression is wrong because premine isn't only way to control the most of supply. A decent Monero home mining was impossible since the first days due to hash power dispatched by developer\investors. If few people has the most of the supply I don't deserve a fuck if they have premined or they control the supply with botnets since the days after launch, the result is the same, few people own the coin and who want them have to buy from them. Bytecoin and Dash are more mined by their developers but given you the possibility to get easily a decent amount as early adopters, with Monero this wasn't possible and this isn't normal in any legit coin, unless they use large cloud botnet to control the supply since day one. Now over 14 million Monero have been mined, the double of Dash. WHO has mined them??? Certainly not a large group of users but mining clusters.
Without mention the shitty behaviors used by Monero crew to steal technology and defame the coin that have copied.
I don't agree however It's a pity that Gridcoin that you have mentioned here doesn't get the attention deserved, It's the only coin where mining isn't a waste of computational power and energy.
When i tried it in 2013 it was a SCRYPT coin.
So yeah you did do work for Boinc / SETI etc etc
BUT !
You were still scrypt algo mining.
Not sure if it changed since.
And unless you guys start focusing on "Currency" get ready for this to sink faster in the toilet.
I am tired of the stupidity.
You all make and support alternative use scheme coins because you don't know how to make a better Bitcoin (that will get popular and make you rich)
Making and supporting a crypto currency that succeeds is not in all your interest.
You say one thing and do another.. you are all 100% full of shit.
Let me know how that works out for ya
Look in the mirror douche bags.. it's YOU guys who piled in here late supporting crap like Doge Coin making it the no. 2 coin on Earth for a LONG TIME by spending REAL money on them.
What ? Did you idiots not know it was bad then ?
You knew so cut the crap.. how many of you spoke up early like i did ?
None of you.. you all silently went with it.. for teh ROI'z.
I have more crypto-cred than all of you combined.
I am smarter for a million reasons such as never using my REAL MONEY to buy shitcoins for ROI'z.
I don't have a shred of respect for 90% of you.. your worthless scum.
And if i think that imagine what the planet thinks.
They are not here for a reason dumb fucks..
I warned you all long ago.. get smarter or suffer the consequences.
There is no escape.
You will all fumble over each other to hide and point fingers when the time comes.
Don't like my comment here ?
Blow me ..then create a new account crying FUD & Troll investards.. it's all your good at.
I'm not an altcoin invest-tard, I'm watching how altcoin scenario evolves, replace you with "they" or with "we".
Just curious to know why you are so positive in Litecoin. Litecoin is based on scrypt and I don't see so much innovation compared to Bitcoin.
A coin accepted in a single store from not even a year second dark market coin... ROTFL
You are a complete moron that probably has spent a lot of money in Monero shit... A Monero Moron LOL
In addition I see how you try to pathetically change the point of discussion... I'm still waiting to ear what are the significant feature Monero added after Bytecoin copy\paste
Try again Monero Moron
You are a complete moron that probably has spent a lot of money in Monero shit... A Monero Moron LOL
In addition I see how you try to pathetically change the point of discussion... I'm still waiting to ear what are the significant feature Monero added after Bytecoin copy\paste
Try again Monero Moron
As you will be able to see from my post history, I'm a long term xmr-hodler (since about beginning of 2015):
so, yeah, I spent fiat on monero, not too unhappy about it
If you refuse to see the added features (like lmdb), I can't help you, sorry...
I asked you for proof of 3 of your statements for 3 times now, but nothing...
bye bye now
proof of what??
the db isn't a major feature and even Bytecoin don't use memory. everything scam can be a god investment but only if you sold before crash consolidating the earn
this can proof that isn't all true what he stated not that He has mined all for himself...
The post is self-explanatory, no. If the white paper is already a big lie, why would one even bother. Imagine that Satoshi told the world in 2009 that he had published his white paper in 1998, but that nobody read it, and that 80% of bitcoin is now mined, and that it has been used by big banks since a decade or so. And then one discovers that he just did so three days ago, but has predated his genesis block by more than 10 years to do easy mining. Do you think one single soul would even buy a pizza with 100 bitcoin ?
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and again you have strategically omitted all the rest of the content of my post for the second time in a row.
It doesn't matter. If you start out with such a big, discovered lie, then there's no point to bother further.
Concerning the botnet mining of monero, you are free to set up your own botnet, no ?
Is not a game about sincerity but about the fairness of the currency distribution. I don't deserve a fuck if the developer is a liar has some undeclared children, if he develop a valuable piece of code and allow me to get in without burn a lot of dollars to get few units of the coin.
You have ignored the main biggest point of discussions.
And this is the third time in a row.
AGAIN
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you have ignored 99,9% of the post where I want to know in practice, HOW is supposed to be better a developers that not premine but with emission enterely controlled by few people with big cluster miners against developers that "maybe" have premined a big slice however everyone was able to get a very large amount of units for free with faucets and an extremely low price
How many Monero you can get? At what price? Who is that sold you Monero? How this assure a better distribution in real world?
How many Monero you can get? At what price? Who is that sold you Monero? How this assure a better distribution in real world?
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First of all isn't proven that the developer premined before release, seems more a not properly distributed initial supply. Anyway even considering that developers have premined I would have agree with you if is proven that approach used by other coins assure most fair distribution. Unfortunately isn't the mined amount that decide this but how a common user can get a proportional percentage of the supply. Since the mining network can easily grab the most of supply forcing you to buy from them if you want some coin. Bytecoin was always easily mineable even from an home user with a notebook, was distributed for free in very large amount with faucets. Monero? If you want to get a decent amount of units you have to pay much money to big mining clusters most of them controlled by founders of the coin that have the most of the emission totally in their hands. How is supposed to be more fair this?
I'm not a Bytecoin supporter I have invested only ten dollar in Bytecoin I prefer other cryptocurrencies however Bytecoin whatever thing you can say about developers sincerity, that very likely have lied about the date, was easily available both for free with faucets, with hilariously low prices and easy to mine even with an home PC... Monero was pretty expensive and difficult to mine since day one because of large clusters that original owners\investors dispatched this is a FACT and this is the most important thing when I have to see what coin is more fair and grant a best distribution in real world. So in simpler word if Bytecoin is a scam because of initial mining Monero is a scam far more great and less honest
my question:
so, nope, didn't ask you that...
What I said:
your answer:
yes, one indeed, like I said
Then you say:
So can you explain then why transaction volume in dash has gone nowhere since launch? Proof: https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360
Can you explain why anoncoin (launched in june 2013, so older than xmr) has only a marketcap of 25.000$? see here: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/anoncoin
I see that you don't even mention BCN anymore, quite telling...
Serious question: will you stop now making a fool of yourself? You have reduced your own credibility to 0...
I'm done here btw, no use continuing this nonsense...
best regards,
Please, tell me which dnm uses another coins besides btc or xmr?
your answer:Are you asking me to link Darknet websites? seriously? Oh please
so, nope, didn't ask you that...
What I said:
a darknetmarket (dnM) added xmr
your answer:
Only ONE accepted XMR...1
yes, one indeed, like I said
Then you say:
among newer anon-altcoin Anoncoin is why more used in I2P network, Dash is why more used in onion websites.
So can you explain then why transaction volume in dash has gone nowhere since launch? Proof: https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360
Can you explain why anoncoin (launched in june 2013, so older than xmr) has only a marketcap of 25.000$? see here: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/anoncoin
I see that you don't even mention BCN anymore, quite telling...
Serious question: will you stop now making a fool of yourself? You have reduced your own credibility to 0...
I'm done here btw, no use continuing this nonsense...
best regards,
This depend on investors not on date and number of website and users that have adopted It. In term of adoption there is only a real crypto that has a real economic weight in daily transaction Bitcoin, all the altcoins that I have mentioned followed however are very far to be standard and are still a small niche.
Scream that Monero is the second coin adopted in darknet is a joke is over the limit of the bullshit. tomorrow I'll open a couple of marketplace that accept shitcoin so I can say that shitcoin is the largest alternative to Bitcoin LOL
Yep, I'm sure that your marketplaces will instantly be as big as the one that added xmr...
I don't normally resort to namecalling, but you by now have more than deserved your share...
You, sir, are a complete moron!
bye
A coin accepted in a single store from not even a year second dark market coin... ROTFL
You are a complete moron that probably has spent a lot of money in Monero shit... A Monero Moron LOL
In addition I see how you try to pathetically change the point of discussion... I'm still waiting to ear what are the significant feature Monero added after Bytecoin copy\paste
Try again Monero Moron
my question:
so, nope, didn't ask you that...
What I said:
your answer:
yes, one indeed, like I said
Then you say:
So can you explain then why transaction volume in dash has gone nowhere since launch? Proof: https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360
Can you explain why anoncoin (launched in june 2013, so older than xmr) has only a marketcap of 25.000$? see here: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/anoncoin
I see that you don't even mention BCN anymore, quite telling...
Serious question: will you stop now making a fool of yourself? You have reduced your own credibility to 0...
I'm done here btw, no use continuing this nonsense...
best regards,
Please, tell me which dnm uses another coins besides btc or xmr?
your answer:Are you asking me to link Darknet websites? seriously? Oh please
so, nope, didn't ask you that...
What I said:
a darknetmarket (dnM) added xmr
your answer:
Only ONE accepted XMR...1
yes, one indeed, like I said
Then you say:
among newer anon-altcoin Anoncoin is why more used in I2P network, Dash is why more used in onion websites.
So can you explain then why transaction volume in dash has gone nowhere since launch? Proof: https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360
Can you explain why anoncoin (launched in june 2013, so older than xmr) has only a marketcap of 25.000$? see here: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/anoncoin
I see that you don't even mention BCN anymore, quite telling...
Serious question: will you stop now making a fool of yourself? You have reduced your own credibility to 0...
I'm done here btw, no use continuing this nonsense...
best regards,
This depend on investors not on date and number of website and users that have adopted It. In term of adoption there is only a real crypto that has a real economic weight in daily transaction Bitcoin, all the altcoins that I have mentioned followed however are very far to be standard and are still a small niche.
Scream that Monero is the second coin adopted in darknet is a joke is over the limit of the bullshit. tomorrow I'll open a couple of marketplace that accept shitcoin so I can say that shitcoin is the largest alternative to Bitcoin LOL
First of all isn't proven that the developer premined before release, seems more a not properly distributed initial supply.
This great piece of inquiry is enough:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0
Faking white papers, faking dates 2 years in advance, claiming a launch and dark market usage 2 years ago.
Bytecoin was launched in april 2014, claiming it was around since 2012, to "explain" that 80% was already (pre)mined.
Come on.
these are not proofs only suspects and conjectures
The proofs are in the OP I linked to. If an article published by you in 2012 is written with a pdf processor that only existed in 2014, and if that article (the "white paper") that you SIGNED in 2012 contains links to a discussion thread started in 2013, then you are Dr Who, and you are in possession of a time-travelling Tardis.
this can proof that isn't all true what he stated not that He has mined all for himself... and again you have strategically omitted all the rest of the content of my post for the second time in a row.
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you have ignored 99,9% of the post where I want to know in practice, HOW is supposed to be better a developers that not premine but with emission enterely controlled by few people with big cluster miners against developers that "maybe" have premined a big slice however everyone was able to get a very large amount of units for free with faucets and an extremely low price
How many Monero you can get? At what price? Who is that sold you Monero? How this assure a better distribution in real world?
How many Monero you can get? At what price? Who is that sold you Monero? How this assure a better distribution in real world?
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First of all isn't proven that the developer premined before release, seems more a not properly distributed initial supply. Anyway even considering that developers have premined I would have agree with you if is proven that approach used by other coins assure most fair distribution. Unfortunately isn't the mined amount that decide this but how a common user can get a proportional percentage of the supply. Since the mining network can easily grab the most of supply forcing you to buy from them if you want some coin. Bytecoin was always easily mineable even from an home user with a notebook, was distributed for free in very large amount with faucets. Monero? If you want to get a decent amount of units you have to pay much money to big mining clusters most of them controlled by founders of the coin that have the most of the emission totally in their hands. How is supposed to be more fair this?
I'm not a Bytecoin supporter I have invested only ten dollar in Bytecoin I prefer other cryptocurrencies however Bytecoin whatever thing you can say about developers sincerity, that very likely have lied about the date, was easily available both for free with faucets, with hilariously low prices and easy to mine even with an home PC... Monero was pretty expensive and difficult to mine since day one because of large clusters that original owners\investors dispatched this is a FACT and this is the most important thing when I have to see what coin is more fair and grant a best distribution in real world. So in simpler word if Bytecoin is a scam because of initial mining Monero is a scam far more great and less honest