You do not need to add any color in your text. it looks very awkward.
Here Sandboxcasino will temporarily shut down their site due to some problem.  Because of which they have given a notice to all users including you to withdraw their funds. So I don't understand why you consider it a scam .
 I can see from your trust setting  that you are a scammer yourself lol

This kind of connection between Owl and Sandboxcasino has been answered already by Owl before. There connection on the license owner is due to there partnership with there software and not because they have same owner. They are already working on it to terminate there partnership so that Owl will not be involved on all the accusation being thrown on Sandboxcasino. You should post this scam accusation on Sandboxcasino and not here because this is already a spam.

Yes i think so. this is not right place to report Against anything . he/she should post his all kind of information on Scam Accusations . and i want to tell here Owl Game and Sandboxcasino is not actually same project . so he/she shouldn’t post anything like that without any clear connection abidance Owl game with Sandboxcasino

This nonsense why cant you post this in the right place and what happen to scam accusations thread on reputation board , i think you are trying to creat unnecessary fud in here so no one will take you serious here. If you have a case against the platform ypu mentioned then follow appropriate way to make ypur case.

This kind of connection between Owl and Sandboxcasino has been answered already by Owl before. There connection on the license owner is due to there partnership with there software and not because they have same owner. They are already working on it to terminate there partnership so that Owl will not be involved on all the accusation being thrown on Sandboxcasino. You should post this scam accusation on Sandboxcasino and not here because this is already a spam.

Yes i think so. this is not right place to report Against anything . he/she should post his all kind of information on Scam Accusations . and i want to tell here Owl Game and Sandboxcasino is not actually same project . so he/she shouldn’t post anything like that without any clear connection abidance Owl game with Sandboxcasino

This nonsense why cant you post this in the right place and what happen to scam accusations thread on reputation board , i think you are trying to creat unnecessary fud in here so no one will take you serious here. If you have a case against the platform ypu mentioned then follow appropriate way to make ypur case.

Owl games has already shared their standing on this issue. Though I'm not sure what is true or false, there's no point of bringing owl games without having any concrete proof on the hand. Don't think I'm vouching for them because I'm wearing their signature. I would still say the same if I were in any other campaign.

Mind the words you f**k. Why all these anger for? If you can not create a discussion because you are unsocial then leave the place.
The quoted posts was already defended by owlgames so stop bringing things that are not relevant anymore. Provide any help if you can or just get the hell out of here.

You are getting it wrong. No one is defending Sandboxcasino but some of us really do not see Owlgames has anything to do here. OP is deliberately trying to connect owlgames again and again in the matter. As a result he is losing the merit of his accusation.

OWNERSHIP:

Owl.games and Sandboxcasino.io are both owned by “Cyber Galaxy B.V.”. This is referenced in the bottom of each websites page where they link to their respective Antillephone License Validation page where it lists the owner as “Cyber Galaxy B.V.”

The same company owns both casinos, but owl.games seemed to be trying to distance themselves from this case for the obvious reason that Sandboxcasino is trying to fraudulently get out of paying me.

RED FLAG #1: Sandboxcasino.io removed the link to the Antillephone License Validation website that proudly shows they’re owned by “Cyber Galaxy B.V.”

RED FLAG #2: Within two hours of owl.games posting in this forum, Sandboxcasino.io updated their terms of service to remove any reference to being owned by Cyber Galaxy B.V..

It’s clear that both casinos are operated by Cyber Galaxy B.V. and are working in concert to: delete data from public forums, delete data from their websites and to jointly respond via emails to me to deny my legitimate win.

I hope members of this forum see all the shady stuff both casinos are doing for damage control!

Screenshots of owl.games validation page: https://ibb.co/jvsVDww

Screenshot of sandboxcasino.io validation page they removed link to: https://ibb.co/jyt7ygL

WARNING: SandBoxCasino.io has Ceased operations after scamming me!

Crazy to see that all it took was me winning $127,000 to force this scam casino to disappear. I still blame OwlGames because prior to my win, they proudly listed their parent company (Cyber Galaxy B.V.) as owning both casinos. Both casinos also listed the same owner on their license pages. Conveniently all references to Cyber Galaxy B.V. disappeared when I complained about being scammed out of $127,000!

OwlGames posted they only provide the platform to SandBoxCasino, but their actions have proven otherwise.

OwlGames went into the sandboxcasino website to reenable my account to enter KYC. Despite sandboxcasino remaining silent on paying me, I submitted my KYC since owlGames was controlling the sandboxcasino website.

After no response from either casino for three days, I emailed them and CC’d sandboxcasino. OwlGames lead the email chain where they peppered me with questions about IP addresses about one showing up as USA. I reiterated it was a VPN and that I’m not from the USA, but they wouldn’t accept my response.

They kept on insisting it wasn’t a VPN IP address. It became clear that OwlGames and Sandboxcasino worked in concert to always have an excuse to not pay me. After all, they have been mostly silent for the past 2.5 months, except for the occasional post with a variety of excuses (VPN, coinmixer, associated with banned players, KYC).

I have done nothing wrong. I won fair and square. I also provided them all my personal information for KYC. Sandboxcasino mockingly called me “the Mexican” in their emails after they got my identity documents.

Sadly I saw Sandboxcasino is closing up shop on their website.

OwlGames posted they only provide the platform to SandBoxCasino, but their actions have proven otherwise.

OwlGames went into the sandboxcasino website to reenable my account to enter KYC. Despite sandboxcasino remaining silent on paying me, I submitted my KYC since owlGames was controlling the sandboxcasino website.

After no response from either casino for three days, I emailed them and CC’d sandboxcasino. OwlGames lead the email chain where they peppered me with questions about IP addresses about one showing up as USA. I reiterated it was a VPN and that I’m not from the USA, but they wouldn’t accept my response.

They kept on insisting it wasn’t a VPN IP address. It became clear that OwlGames and Sandboxcasino worked in concert to always have an excuse to not pay me. After all, they have been mostly silent for the past 2.5 months, except for the occasional post with a variety of excuses (VPN, coinmixer, associated with banned players, KYC).

I have done nothing wrong. I won fair and square. I also provided them all my personal information for KYC. Sandboxcasino mockingly called me “the Mexican” in their emails after they got my identity documents.

Sadly I saw Sandboxcasino is closing up shop on their website.

He's accusing MCM of being a SCAMMER, in the title, and multiple forums on the web, and dark web. He's trying to 'hire a hacker' for if nothing more than nefarious reasons to somehow Dox or Hack MCM's website..  Even though in all likelihood he was phished.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. There is no evidence that he submitted it to MCM and MCM says he doesn't have it. OP doesn't have the LoG. You would think for $600k OP would instead contact the authorities, but why hasn't he?

He hasn't even answered the question why he sent $600k all at once in the first place. He admits to screwing up every step of the process, after accusing MCM of being a scammer.

You don't just fall off your bike, and immediately start accusing the bike manufacturer of creating a flawed bike. You better have proof that the bike is faulty... In this case, OP doesn't have any scrapes or bruises, and conveniently the bike is missing so there is no evidence.

MCM has already responded with an appropriate and well-thought-out defense to the accusations. Does that not absolve MCM?  Depends on how you look at it. In this instance character matters. You just need to read this thread to really understand, he was more than likely phished.

Oh, and off-topic, the accuser is likely dealing with stolen Bitcoin or drug money.. but I mean, what does that matter? My cousin died in 2019 from laced Fentanyl he bought online that he thought was Vicodin. So spare me, as I have little pity for those looking to make a quick buck or 600-thousand of em dealing drugs on the dark web.

Do you see the amount of scam accusations against the company?  They are doing this to many people.  Not only this, I have taken down the story and added it to https://cloudbetscams.com of Efxes.  

Morning all,

I have posted a statement on our meta thread that should help to answer some of the concerns raised by the community in regards to this case.

You can read the statement in full here

Thanks,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

Hi all,

There has been some discontent in the forums and we would like to take this opportunity to clear a few issues up.

Firstly, please be reminded that Cloudbet does NOT accept any USA players.

USA players are blocked from registering accounts, and are blocked from making bets. If any player from USA attempts to make an account, they see a message saying USA players are prohibited and are not able to sign up.

To reiterate, players from USA are NOT allowed on Cloudbet.

If we have strong reason to believe that a player has deliberately and willingly circumvented our terms of service by connecting from USA (or another restricted territory), we freeze their account while we conduct an investigation, and ask the player to provide documentation on their residency. Please note that this is only when we strongly suspect that a player has connected from USA, ie, there is specific evidence to suggest this.

In most cases, the player is cooperative and provides us with accurate documentation about their account and residency. If they are a USA resident, we close their account permanently, and return their account balance. This has been the case with several vocal users in the forum. Sometimes this can take some time, as every case is slightly different, but is always resolved eventually provided the player furnishes us with accurate information.

If they are connecting from a non-restricted country, we reopen their account and they can resume using their account without limitation.

Please note that in all cases where the player has cooperated, they have received their entire account balance, and had their accounts closed only if they were connecting from a prohibited jurisdiction (or there was a separate unrelated issue). If any forum members in this situation would come forward and confirm receipt of their account balances in full, this would be appreciated.

However - on rare occasions, the player is NOT cooperative and provides us with deliberately falsified or fraudulent information. In these cases, our investigations are significantly more complicated and time consuming.


There is one specific case that has received a lot of attention from the community - Swofty - as the dollar amount is particularly large. Here is our comment on the case:

• As we have a duty of privacy to all of our players, we are limited in what we can share. The player may have shared some details, but we are not able to share any specifics or personal data.
• That said, we can share definitively that the player has knowingly and deliberately provided untruthful, falsified and fraudulent information to both Cloudbet and the community.
• The account holder is NOT the person that he/she states it is, nor are they in the location they state.
• The player also knowingly and deliberately circumvented our terms of service by connecting from a prohibited jurisdiction.
• The reason the player has not been paid yet is entirely to do with them circumventing our terms of service and providing falsified and fraudulent information, and nothing to do with our bitcoin liquidity (more on that below).
• As the customer provided us with definitively falsified information, we suggested they reach out to Curacao Egaming - with whom we hold a licence - for assistance. This is the correct escalation for any player issues.
• We intend to resolve this issue in a manner completely fair to everyone once we receive truthful and accurate information from the player.
• It appears as if the player is now cooperating, so we hope to have a resolution to this case soon.

We have been encouraged by the way the community has responded to rally behind the player and help hold Cloudbet accountable, however in this case the player has not been truthful with the community. We encourage the player to share a more accurate story.


Separately, concerns have been raised about Cloudbet's ability to service the player's withdrawal immediately. You needn’t be concerned - we hold enough funds to cover all of our player balances several times over, and we would never accept a bet that we could not pay in full immediately. We have been around since 2013 and have always celebrated our largest winners, and paid extremely promptly.

We would like to address this in the way requested by the community -- a signed message from a wallet that holds sufficient funds to cover any liabilities that may be due to this player.

We have signed a message from a wallet holding ~1157 BTC. All outputs spent to this wallet are from wallets that belong to us, and had not moved in over a year (we sent them to a single wallet for the purpose of this exercise) so they are not newly acquired coins.  We would be happy to sign another message from any of the source wallets to prove ownership if required.

Wallet: 16vk7DahVgj4VsfKKdr1pG3QJ9FvzXpdJN
Message: cloudbet.com // no USA players allowed
Signature: HxO5QwkA/UNVePahBUzYgWL4Zz5syTC1H6/LeHICsvW0MYG9Q+PgOjNbzVXgXsLbadzFO2wLlz25nsbaXkeTXo4=

You can verify the above message in your bitcoin client, or by using the web interface here

I hope that addresses the community's immediate concerns. If anybody has any further questions or follow-up, please feel free to contact us directly via our support channels, or post a reply in this thread and we will do our best to address them in a timely manner.

Once more, to reiterate, Cloudbet does NOT accept USA players.

Thanks for your continued support, patience, and diligence.

The Cloudbet Team

Avoid cloud bet at all cost. They owe me 35 bitcoins (from the time when bitcoin was trading at $13500/coin).  I am a high-roller who follows Betting resource.com's 10 unit picks. They recommend only to play at betcris and pinnacle but the limits there are low and decided to jump in on cloudbet since they offered the 5 bitcoin bonus plus high limits. I deposited 20 bitcoins and I received 5 bonus bitcoins. All was good. Limits were ridiculously high and and I was very happy following the tips. Long story short, I ran up my account to 60 units total in few months and problems arose when I requested the first withdrawal for 25 units. It staid pending for days without explanation. When i contacted them, they kept giving excuse of internal reviews and investigations. Then they asked so many documents, some were ridiculous requests and i complied with everything they asked. By this point i was suspicious and stopped betting with them. Their review/investigation last 2 months and finally they completed the investigation and concluded that my "betting pattern" is against their terms and conditions. I asked them which and they failed to explain further. They told me that my account has been closed and gave me option to withdraw my 20 bitcoin deposited and gave my 48 hour ultimatum and if I don't accept the offer, I get nothing. I had no choice but to accept the offer. At the time i deposited the 20 bitcoins, it was trading around 13.5k/coin. When i received the 20 bitcoins, bitcoin was worth about $8000. Not only did I lose my winnings and bonus but I also lost a lot of value on my deposit.

To date they haven't given me explanation on how I broke the terms and conditions. i did not have any betting pattern. all i did was follow my tipster and flat bet 4 bit coins on each tip. All bets for same amount. There is nothing in their terms and conditions that states this type of betting is disallowed.

This book is very bad. I guess many people don't know since they are losing gamblers but if you are a big winner, they will show their real colors.

@Ronnie - what are your views on this: