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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 27/01/2015, 03:10:45 UTC
1w1S489aVMHMVu3ojEVfhvbWZ6rJQ8tdP  should pay 0.0847 BTC  to get his 1.94987 BTC  out, else it's gonna go to waste  Grin

Hah. I tried that on week 2. I sent ~.8 to bump my 1.3 btc payout (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918471.msg10210516#msg10210516). A lot of freakin good that did me... my 1.3 BTC payout is still unconfirmed.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 26/01/2015, 20:07:04 UTC
most auto ones, if you deposit in .005, and then follow it up with a 0.0065, you'll get payout of 0.0065 and lose only 0.005 but it hasn't paid me my 0.0065 yet, and let's see if it will in a few hours

That would only work if your 0.005 deposit was the VERY first deposit of the round and your 0.0065 deposit was the second (and the OP didn't take a 6.5% fee from the deposit). As it stands right now, there needs to be another ~3.6 BTC of deposits before your 0.0065 gets paid. This is completely normal - it's how these games work.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 26/01/2015, 15:39:21 UTC
I'm waiting patiently since 2015-01-21... TXID: 760f6fd5984d8c5ca55aec8e409100e702f632f63dfb49a63cabab19887eaae6  Sad my payment for this TX was probably the first with never confirming inputs issue... OP please respond...

I thought he refunded them back into the game ? https://blockchain.info/tx/4aefb997d450d0513971298c9804780bfa57e9219fb3e795e4ecec792fd55af4
What makes sense to put them back into game? O.o

I think he re invested the unconfirmed deposits not withdrawals. just my 2 cents. need more info from OP
Hope he response soon to my questions  Sad

It's probably to his benefit not to respond at all, which seems to be the route that he's taking. If he responds and actually resolves the problem by paying you the BTC that he owes, a lot of other users will come out of the woodwork and demand that they receive their missing payouts, too. I have ~2.5 BTC worth of payouts that still haven't confirmed; the first one is from the 19th.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 24/01/2015, 04:21:52 UTC
This week going a bit slow... Hopefully it picks up soon.

I don't think you should expect much after last week.

I think it's inevitable that this ends up being a 4SecondPonzi if he sticks to the current formula. This isn't the first or even second time that these Ponzi game sites have popped up. The last round was maybe back in March or April of 2014 and I think the same thing basically happened to them then. They faded away and everyone forgot about them until CryptoDouble popped up.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 24/01/2015, 02:57:15 UTC
These three 24Hour payouts are stuck from days ago:

89045b165b6a602cc2e24c9409685e472e7b62575d1369c01cbd17734e488d6a
ed88835ca9171b38cfdee344eac91f59607ec14c88c0210d66fbb401f146a4d9
d2dd4b212be44be533364025d7c498101fea907692cbd2214002059e7f0c15cc
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 24/01/2015, 01:40:37 UTC
He actually took out some of the risk. I didnt see it until just above that he put in 8 BTC. That means there will be less losers then before.

I'm not so sure that the "seed" btc is quite what it appears. There were a LOT of large "donations" fired off to the donation address in the beginning of the round and I can't find an equal number of early deposits (I've only found a little over 4 BTC that wasn't counted for the round). If I don't factor in that 8 BTC "seed", my last predicted payout is right in line with the actual payout:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/WeeklyPonzi-Week3.jpg

...but if I do factor it in, my spreadsheet shows the payout being much higher up the list than it currently is.

Maybe something went wonky with the script and it sent too much to the donation address, so he just balanced it back out.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 24/01/2015, 01:05:47 UTC
Updated after the OP seeded the round with 8.3 BTC:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/WeeklyPonzi-Week3.jpg
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 24/01/2015, 00:58:40 UTC
I wasn't paying attention, so I missed if there was any money still in the coffer at the beginning of the round. Iif there wasn't, this is based on the current numbers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/WeeklyPonzi-Week3.jpg

don`t forget about time order. i made payment on 00/00/37 and i`m almost in top. but there are people under me that made payment after me

http://i.imgur.com/ayPlEru.jpg

One possible explanation is that confirmation time may now play a role in the sort order. Maybe your "bet" got placed first, but didn't actually confirm until after theirs. That's just a guess, tho...
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 24/01/2015, 00:24:15 UTC
It looks like the safe period was ~ 8 seconds...
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 24/01/2015, 00:21:32 UTC
I wasn't paying attention, so I missed if there was any money still in the coffer at the beginning of the round. Iif there wasn't, this is based on the current numbers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/WeeklyPonzi-Week3.jpg
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 23/01/2015, 12:28:39 UTC
so will my unconfirmed still confirm ?

There's no guarantee. All you can do is join the rest of us and wait... and wait... and wait. I have two unconfirmed payouts totaling around 2.25 BTC; both flushed from the blockchain.info ledger. I've written them off as a loss at this point, but we shall see.

It's good that the op is making changes to reduce these problems in the future but those who have potentially lost coins are probably shit out of luck.

@wp.cointemp2, what about the payout double spends? Are those fixed?
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 14:14:40 UTC
yeah, not bots. i was watching the clock too today like hawkeye . sent in transaction at 0.00 gmt. Shows top 5 on blockchain but not even in the top 15 on site  Grin not gonna try my luck again tomorrow. lol

Good luck. Smiley I prefer the weekly, but I might give the daily one a try.

You're going to need to be VERY fast with your "bet". On Day #4, half of the total BTC sent was done so in the 00:00:00 time period.

If the OP has indeed fixed the random sort order bug on the site, you're really going to need to get your bet registered on the blockchain before the 00:00:01 time period for the best chance of receiving a payout. Then you have to worry about your payout being double spent and disappearing from your balance several hours later. Sad
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 11:34:40 UTC
Seems like there should be a new address for the weekly game.   Double spends and unconfirmed transactions after days isn't a good sign.

Transactions shouldn't be created from unconfirmed deposits.  

My own lost payout was from the 24 Hour Ponzi, so maybe they should both get new addresses.

What's actually happening that's causing the payouts to be double spent? Is it that previous "betters" are sending bogus transactions that, once sorted leave the Ponzi addresses essentially sending out payouts with bitcoins that don't exist?
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 10:55:00 UTC
@wp.coimtemp Do you have any comment about the disproportionately large amount of Double Spends that seems to surround the weekly and 24 hour games? We've seen numerous reports from people losing their payouts due to double spends. The blockchain.info address for the Weekly Ponzi game even has a warning on the topic:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/doublespend.jpg
https://blockchain.info/address/1Week8mnAJwgaW5xJoBZo1UfhE8LYVJYk

I've lost my own payout from Day #2 of the 24 Hour Ponzi, apparently due to a Double Spend:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ed88835ca9171b38cfdee344eac91f59607ec14c88c0210d66fbb401f146a4d9

I've tried emailing you about this a couple times, but haven't received a response.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 00:52:53 UTC
Same. I knew that I could make it in the first second, but that may not be enough. A friend and I got in with adjacent "bets" at 00:00:01. It looks like I'll probably get my payout (unless it ends up being a double spend like my LAST payout from that address), but he ended up being listed AFTER that break point address that was posted earlier, which has a 00:00:02 time. Sad

i deposited at 0.00 and i was at 18th place, i can only imagine tomorrow.

The majority will probably get in on or before 00:00:01 and they'll end up being totally scrambled on the site due to the script not being able to keep up. So it will be a mad rush to place a bet within 1 second of game-launch in order to have a totally random chance at receiving a payout.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
by
Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 00:42:57 UTC
He's definitely just paying them in the order they appear on  the site. He's already paid some out of order.

same as yesterday..  Angry

Yea, and they're even more scrambled today since so many people got in within the first 3 seconds.

definitely not gonna deposit tomorrow. way too risky .. narrow escape today

Same. I knew that I could make it in the first second, but that may not be enough. A friend and I got in with adjacent "bets" at 00:00:01. It looks like I'll probably get my payout (unless it ends up being a double spend like my LAST payout from that address), but he ended up being listed AFTER that break point address that was posted earlier, which has a 00:00:02 time. Sad
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 00:35:51 UTC
He's definitely just paying them in the order they appear on  the site. He's already paid some out of order.

same as yesterday..  Angry

Yea, and they're even more scrambled today since so many people got in within the first 3 seconds.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 00:29:06 UTC
He's definitely just paying them in the order they appear on  the site. He's already paid some out of order.
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
by
Fairbanks
on 21/01/2015, 00:16:35 UTC
Sooo...

If that's it, the last player who is going to be paid is

1MVivb3Wt8AaTyFskyPmugqT3YXYMKXMd6   1.5 BTC   1.95 BTC   

Tx Time: 00.00.02


If he goes in the order listed on the site, that's certainly what it looks like:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/24hour.jpg

They're definitely not in order on the site, though. Sad
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Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested
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Fairbanks
on 20/01/2015, 12:57:22 UTC
I doubt there are actually any bots being used.   I've written bots before and it isn't worth writing a bot for this.   There are just too many ways to shoot yourself in the foot.   What you are seeing is people watching the clock and hitting the "ok" button when they see it is time to play.   A few dozen humans doing that looks just the same as a bunch of bots.

I agree with this. However, if the OP were to actually complicate the process by changing the address for each round, you can bet we'd see some bots creep into the game.