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Ok, can you help me? If you have experience on that with "140% in a short time" what they means with "short time" right now?
Hi all and Welcome to Ponzis Explained w/ Analysis & Ratings!
INTRODUCTION
What is this!?
This is a weekly analitic thread about ponzis and HYIPs running on this subforum. Where i will try to rate them as neutral as possible, even better if your help.
Why do you do this!?
Basically because I like share my thought processes and my experience about them (crypto versions, not real money ones). And also to help the newbies to fall in obvious scams. (neither a ponzi, just a "collect&runaway")
Oh ok...But who are you!?
I'm a long time lurker of this subforum, and yes... sometimes, very rarely, I have invested on them.
Why are you wasting your time with them? They're all scams!
Yes and No, Yes because 99% of the time they haven't a real business behind them or owners runs away quickly with all funds, and No because even if they haven't a real business behind them, some ponzi/HYIP (not all) can be profitable if you exploit it and understand how it works. I consider these just a gambling game with a potential good edge.
Ok, after this little introduction we can start!
WEEKLY TOPICS
#1 Trasparency: Why is the most important factor to be considered before make an "investment".
The system's trasparency is very important, and in my experience the first thing to look, for trasparency I mean:
- If website description is true (we make financial investements...NO, we are a ponzi...OK);
- If website stats are all showed and public (balance, total investment, total paid, all in&out transactions and not just last 100 for example) and this is the "key" to understand if join the system or not;
- If the system is manipulated (fake transactions are the most important indicator of very risky website, and also the most common practice used).
#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:
- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?
WEEKLY TIPS
#1 Never be greedy, one good investment can be much better than ten bad investments, be patient, wait an opportunity... and push!
#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.
RATINGS *Updated to June 10th, 2015 - All ratings can change in the future.
Risk: It's referred to the actual risk to join the system on last update.
Gantz Rating: It's a changeable global vote that include my wish to join at the last update, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.
ACTIVE SYSTEMS
CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid ponzi/gambling game, deposits/bets expires and game continues, actually queue is short. This game is totally trasparent, all stats, transactions and addresses are public.
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CONSIDERATIONS: This can be considered more a betting game than a ponzi, if fact this can continue indefinitely, bets expires and game continues. They don't publish deposit and payout transactions, this game can be easily manipulated.
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CONSIDERATIONS: There is no trasparency at all. Their concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP. Stats on homepage are not updated.
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CONSIDERATIONS: They want big fishes, see their plans. In fact I considered only the dailys, other plans are just insanely high. Not transparent, can be easily manipulated. Potential longevity is compromised due to possibility to run away after that some big fish join. Their effort in the project can be considered a good thing.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid chain letter/ponzi, not trasparent system and primarily no stats at all. This makes really hard understand in which status is the system, and their very slow earning system should discourage to join.
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DEAD SYSTEMS
CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Very short HYIP, that because their plans are offering very high returns, be careful.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away. Greedy owner.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid real money/crypto HYIP, investement plans not totally clear, try them on calculator, actually in early game. System is early dead. Greedy owner.
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CONSIDERATIONS: Not much trasparency, system actually in late game, probably it's too late to invest. System Dead.
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If you want another rating ask in this thread, when i have time I will update this post or will be posted in the next week thread!
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A donation helps to keep alive this project:
17ToEcfyTNwgMnxagRwcCjJz54JdyHDDn3
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IMPORTANT: I can be easily wrong, what i'm saying here it's not the absolute truth!
INTRODUCTION
What is this!?
This is a weekly analitic thread about ponzis and HYIPs running on this subforum. Where i will try to rate them as neutral as possible, even better if your help.
Why do you do this!?
Basically because I like share my thought processes and my experience about them (crypto versions, not real money ones). And also to help the newbies to fall in obvious scams. (neither a ponzi, just a "collect&runaway")
Oh ok...But who are you!?
I'm a long time lurker of this subforum, and yes... sometimes, very rarely, I have invested on them.
Why are you wasting your time with them? They're all scams!
Yes and No, Yes because 99% of the time they haven't a real business behind them or owners runs away quickly with all funds, and No because even if they haven't a real business behind them, some ponzi/HYIP (not all) can be profitable if you exploit it and understand how it works. I consider these just a gambling game with a potential good edge.
Ok, after this little introduction we can start!
WEEKLY TOPICS
#1 Trasparency: Why is the most important factor to be considered before make an "investment".
The system's trasparency is very important, and in my experience the first thing to look, for trasparency I mean:
- If website description is true (we make financial investements...NO, we are a ponzi...OK);
- If website stats are all showed and public (balance, total investment, total paid, all in&out transactions and not just last 100 for example) and this is the "key" to understand if join the system or not;
- If the system is manipulated (fake transactions are the most important indicator of very risky website, and also the most common practice used).
#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:
- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?
WEEKLY TIPS
#1 Never be greedy, one good investment can be much better than ten bad investments, be patient, wait an opportunity... and push!
#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.
RATINGS *Updated to June 10th, 2015 - All ratings can change in the future.
Risk: It's referred to the actual risk to join the system on last update.
Gantz Rating: It's a changeable global vote that include my wish to join at the last update, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.
ACTIVE SYSTEMS
URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
Nine9.ninja | 10/10 | INFINITE | 7/10 | 0-125% No Time | HIGH | 4/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
CrazyPonzi.com | 1/10 | INFINITE | 7/10 | 0-140% No Time | HIGH | 3/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
cherryRace.com | 0/10 | MEDIUM | 4/10 | 4% Daily | HIGH | 1/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
Dr-Bitcoin.com | 0/10 | MEDIUM | 4/10 | 2,6-3,6% Daily | HIGH | 1/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
MMMGlobal.org | 1/10 | LONG | 1/10 | 120-200% Monthly | HIGH | 1/10 |
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DEAD SYSTEMS
URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
ProfitCoins.org | 0/10 | SHORT | 1/10 | 8-15% Daily | EXTR. HIGH | 0/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
HkbIncome.com | 0/10 | VERY SHORT | 1/10 | 25-50% Daily | VERY HIGH | 0/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
btc-goldmine.com | 2/10 | VERY SHORT | 3/10 | 250% in 10 Days | VERY HIGH | 0/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
StableBit.biz | 5/10 | SHORT | 4/10 | 1% until 200/220/240% | EXTR. HIGH | 0/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
CryptoHours.com | 1/10 | VERY SHORT | 3/10 | 2% Hourly, 200%Max | EXTR. HIGH | 0/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
EdgeCoin.com | 1/10 | SHORT | 3/10 | 5% Daily | EXTR. HIGH | 0/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
Bit-Protect.com | 4/10 | MEDIUM | 3/10 | Multiplan | HIGH | 0/10 |
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URL | TRASPARENCY | POTENTIAL LONGEVITY | CONCEPT | PLAN | RISK | GANTZ RATING |
LucreBit.com | 2/10 | SHORT | 2/10 | 10-20% Daily | VERY HIGH | 0/10 |
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If you want another rating ask in this thread, when i have time I will update this post or will be posted in the next week thread!
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A donation helps to keep alive this project:
17ToEcfyTNwgMnxagRwcCjJz54JdyHDDn3
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IMPORTANT: I can be easily wrong, what i'm saying here it's not the absolute truth!
I hope now it's all more readable.
Do you like it? Any suggestion?
any update? --
Hi, there will be updates later today.
It's hard find free time for me to updates and I'm also working on a redesign on Ratings in the 1st page. To make more readable all.
LOL bro you don't understand how cherry works,
you will get the amount after 50days
not 200% in 2, 3, 9 and 14 Days like you say
and every day you will get so about the 4%
you will get the amount after 50days
not 200% in 2, 3, 9 and 14 Days like you say
and every day you will get so about the 4%
Oh thanks, fixed:
cherryRace.com
| http://i.imgur.com/fjlBJNc.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 4% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 1/10 |
Considerations:
There is no trasparency at all. Design and concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP, remember this. 25 Days to get back just your deposit seems a bit much, and if we thinks how many days these HYIPs runs seems a bit to risky.
If you're looking for a better formatted or complete version with better ratings (so that the list is actually helpful), take a look over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1075518.0
Man...your thread it's just a list with ref links, what we are doing here is totally different...don't spam your thing here, thanks.
What determines risk since it seems that so far there are only two risks, High and extremely high
Many factors, Risk can be: EXTREMELY LOW - VERY LOW - LOW / MEDIUM / HIGH - VERY HIGH - EXTREMELY HIGH
It's not my fault if 95% of these HYIPs are just trash or owers are too greedy. It's not easy to find a good HYIP with low risk here...Owners seems a bit new/noob to HYIP concept in general.
Btw new weekly insights!
NEW WEEKLY TOPIC
#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:
- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?
NEW WEEKLY TIP
#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.
Original post updated with all: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.0
Hey guys!
New Ratings:
cherryRace.com
Considerations:
There is no trasparency at all. Design and concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP, remember this. 25 Days to get back just your deposit seems a bit much, and if we thinks how many days these HYIPs runs seems a bit to risky.
HkbIncome.com
Considerations:
Very short HYIP, that because their plans are offering very high returns, be careful.
New Ratings:
cherryRace.com
| http://i.imgur.com/fjlBJNc.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 4% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 1/10 |
Considerations:
There is no trasparency at all. Design and concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP, remember this. 25 Days to get back just your deposit seems a bit much, and if we thinks how many days these HYIPs runs seems a bit to risky.
HkbIncome.com
| http://i.imgur.com/inRLHQk.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: 0 /10[/size] Plan: 25-50% Daily Risk: VERY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Very short HYIP, that because their plans are offering very high returns, be careful.
StableBit.biz pending = dead
Thanks!
Update Ratings:
| http://i.imgur.com/3tsQ6ku.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: SYSTEM IS DEAD - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.
Updates:
26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 2 to 0
Reason: Game Over as predicted.
StableBit.biz
| http://i.imgur.com/baTz4Ag.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.
Updates:
26/5/15 Risk from HIGH to EXTREMELY RISK
26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 0
Reason: Payments stopped.
EdgeCoin.com
| http://i.imgur.com/ALBO024.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 5% Daily Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
No trasparency, payments are made manually and users claim already delays, not a good start.
Updates:
26/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to EXTREMELY HIGH
26/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 1 to 0
Reason Payments stopped.
New Ratings later.
EDIT: If you have any suggestion, tell me here please.
Bit-protect.com is dead
Thanks, I have updated first post.
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Bit-Protect.com
Considerations:
Hybrid real money/crypto HYIP, investement plans not totally clear, try them on calculator, actually in early game.
Updates:
26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 0
Reason: System is early dead. Greedy owner.
| http://i.imgur.com/gEN1hlG.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: Multiplan Risk: SYSTEM IS DEAD - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Hybrid real money/crypto HYIP, investement plans not totally clear, try them on calculator, actually in early game.
Updates:
26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 0
Reason: System is early dead. Greedy owner.
Btw just saw that bitcointalk is back online, tomorrow I will update all ratings + more new.
Do not see any change in your rating so far. I wonder how come scams like Bit-Protect.com, Dr-Bitcoin.com, PerfectProfit.biz, StableBit.biz get similar or higher Gantz rating than CrazyPonzi.com or Nine9.ninja !!!
Hi, I think there is a bit of misunderstanding. This thread was born to exploit ponzis, understanding them and get a benefit. We know that they run away in the end 99% of the time.
And personally, it's not different to put any sum of btc on roulette, for example. You can lose but you know what are you doing.
There isn't a rule about gambling > ponzi/hyip in terms of profit.
Back to CrazyPonzi, actually, I don't think that is more profitable now than ponzis that you said, by the way:
"Gantz Rating is changeable and is included my wish to join the system, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.".
For example when CrazyPonzi queue will be more short or empty my ratings will change for sure.
About CrazyPonzi "trasparency" yes, this can change now (I will do later) but not too much, in fact this system can be manipulated easy by changing DB records. For example how I know that that bet is real (paid in BTC)? What I saw are just records.
I hope the situation is more clear.
Added Ratings:
btc-goldmine.com
Considerations:
Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.
multiply-bitcoins.eu
Considerations:
Probaly an attempt of Collect & Run Away, full of fake transactions. Stay away.
StableBit.biz
Considerations:
Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.
Hourly-coin.com
Considerations:
Poor concept and, in my opinion, risk my btc for 1% it's not safe.
Updates:
EdgeCoin.com
21/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to VERY HIGH
21/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
Reason It seems slowly dying, insufficient communication from owner, possible missing payouts.
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Complete List: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.msg11408481#msg11408481
btc-goldmine.com
| http://i.imgur.com/3tsQ6ku.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 2/10 |
Considerations:
Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.
multiply-bitcoins.eu
| http://i.imgur.com/vKeHk2i.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 200% in 1, 2 or 3 Days Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Probaly an attempt of Collect & Run Away, full of fake transactions. Stay away.
StableBit.biz
| http://i.imgur.com/baTz4Ag.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: MEDIUM - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 5/10 |
Considerations:
Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.
Hourly-coin.com
| http://i.imgur.com/nOOy6sa.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: 0 /10 Plan: 101% in 1 Hour Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Poor concept and, in my opinion, risk my btc for 1% it's not safe.
Updates:
EdgeCoin.com
21/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to VERY HIGH
21/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
Reason It seems slowly dying, insufficient communication from owner, possible missing payouts.
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Complete List: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.msg11408481#msg11408481
What do you think?
It would be nice to talk about it.
P.S. QUESTION: What do you think if I add "Status" item in my ratings? Status can be EARLY, MID or LATE, this should
represent which moment we are in the life of the system.
Do you like it?
Added Ratings:
btc-goldmine.com
Considerations:
Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.
multiply-bitcoins.eu
Considerations:
Probaly an attempt of Collect & Run Away, full of fake transactions. Stay away.
StableBit.biz
Considerations:
Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.
Hourly-coin.com
Considerations:
Poor concept and, in my opinion, risk my btc for 1% it's not safe.
Updates:
EdgeCoin.com
21/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to VERY HIGH
21/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
Reason It seems slowly dying, insufficient communication from owner, possible missing payouts.
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Complete List: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.msg11408481#msg11408481
btc-goldmine.com
| http://i.imgur.com/3tsQ6ku.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 2/10 |
Considerations:
Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.
multiply-bitcoins.eu
| http://i.imgur.com/vKeHk2i.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 200% in 1, 2 or 3 Days Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Probaly an attempt of Collect & Run Away, full of fake transactions. Stay away.
StableBit.biz
| http://i.imgur.com/baTz4Ag.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: MEDIUM - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 5/10 |
Considerations:
Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.
Hourly-coin.com
| http://i.imgur.com/nOOy6sa.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: 0 /10 Plan: 101% in 1 Hour Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 0/10 |
Considerations:
Poor concept and, in my opinion, risk my btc for 1% it's not safe.
Updates:
EdgeCoin.com
21/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to VERY HIGH
21/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
Reason It seems slowly dying, insufficient communication from owner, possible missing payouts.
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Complete List: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.msg11408481#msg11408481
I would like to correct you, its name is PERFECTPROFIT.BIZ (not perfectponzi)
Oh thanks! :S
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Admin's investment is too low, probably around $300, and program's concept is now out of date.
Now please focus on the investment made for this HYIP: template in use is probably old and looks like to be for a fast scam, their advertising is very very low in fact admin didn't even promoted on HYIP forums (very weird). Last thing, they got only 0.5 BTC and that's not good. This is very high risky program.
Now please focus on the investment made for this HYIP: template in use is probably old and looks like to be for a fast scam, their advertising is very very low in fact admin didn't even promoted on HYIP forums (very weird). Last thing, they got only 0.5 BTC and that's not good. This is very high risky program.
I agree, this system should be advertised also (mostly) on HYIP forums, this can help us to understand that this onwer, probably, is a noobish one.
Btw, just for who is interested, yesterday I found this interesting discussion about Dr-Bitcoin: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ok0vu/drbitcoincom_grow_your_bitcoin_up_to_8_per_month/ *
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Added Ratings:
Nine9.ninja
Considerations:
Hybrid ponzi/gambling game, deposits/bets expires and game continues, actually queue is short. This game is totally trasparent, all stats, transactions and addresses are public.
PerfectProfit.biz
Considerations:
Classic HYIP system, actually in early stage, 10% Daily forever makes this system a short-term investment, maybe very short. The real question is: "How long it can run?" My prediction is 7 -13 days, but it's hard to predict.
What do you think about?
Nine9.ninja
| http://i.imgur.com/V93S2bB.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: ∞ Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 0-125% No Time Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 4/10 |
Considerations:
Hybrid ponzi/gambling game, deposits/bets expires and game continues, actually queue is short. This game is totally trasparent, all stats, transactions and addresses are public.
PerfectProfit.biz
| http://i.imgur.com/I5LEScD.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 10% Daily Forever Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 3/10 |
Considerations:
Classic HYIP system, actually in early stage, 10% Daily forever makes this system a short-term investment, maybe very short. The real question is: "How long it can run?" My prediction is 7 -13 days, but it's hard to predict.
What do you think about?
cryptohours.com - Attention, do not invest, payments stopped coming, I did not come Bitcoin
What a surprise!
Thanks for your report.
For OP, why not update everyday? So many of member here can know about theirs investment. I think alot high rank member here will help u about condition for any investment site that ur posted here..
Hi, I'm trying to make at least 2 Ratings per day and keep updated all the others, it's not easy but I will do my best.
Guys you can help a lot if you reported here when "something happens" , for example when some site stops to pay or a new site comes out.
for the potential longevity, what is it based on?
Sustainability of the system.
I'm not against you and I don't own dr-bitcoin.com but I don't agree with your conclusions regards to Dr. Bitcoin.
You didn't even mention they are using custom script, unique template, registered a company, bought EV SSL certificate, bought BlackLotus DDoS protected server, bought many monitors already etc.
We don't know if it is a Ponzi scheme but this is actually paying for 38 days and I didn't see any complaint till now!
Now I seriously started to think that you have something to do with CrazyPonzi somehow because, being a HYIP investor since 2011, I can't accept to see a program who already invested AT LEAST $5,000 receiving such low rating. Well, it's your thread I know but the problem is that you are discouraging potential investors to take part in these big projects.
When you look at a new HYIP, two are things you need to look at: admin's investment and concept.
You didn't even mention they are using custom script, unique template, registered a company, bought EV SSL certificate, bought BlackLotus DDoS protected server, bought many monitors already etc.
We don't know if it is a Ponzi scheme but this is actually paying for 38 days and I didn't see any complaint till now!
Now I seriously started to think that you have something to do with CrazyPonzi somehow because, being a HYIP investor since 2011, I can't accept to see a program who already invested AT LEAST $5,000 receiving such low rating. Well, it's your thread I know but the problem is that you are discouraging potential investors to take part in these big projects.
When you look at a new HYIP, two are things you need to look at: admin's investment and concept.
I can understand your point of view, but if some big fish join? What happens? And their concept seems made to do it. Also their "Top Investors" list on the website can be easily fake. However yes, probably they deserves a better rating.
This thread was born mostly for this! Discuss!
One question: Would you join Dr-Bitcoin now?* Btw thanks for your opinion.
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Added Ratings:
MMMGlobal.org
Considerations:
Hybrid chain letter/ponzi, not trasparent system and primarily no stats at all. This makes really hard understand in which status is the system, and their very slow earning system should discourage to join.
Dr-Bitcoin.com
Considerations:
They want big fishes, see their plans. In fact I considered only the dailys, other plans are just insanely high. Not transparent, can be easily manipulated. Potential longevity is compromised due to possibility to run away after that some big fish join. Their effort in the project can be considered a good thing.
Updates:
19/5/15 Potential Longevity from SHORT to MEDIUM
19/5/15 Concept from http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png to http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png
19/5/15 Gantz Rating from 1 to 3
Reason: After a little discussion in this thread I agreed that their effort into the project can be considered a good thing. Also a signal that they don't go away so quckly.
MMMGlobal.org
| http://i.imgur.com/tgB8lzw.jpg | Transparency: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: LONG Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 120-200% Monthly Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 1/10 |
Considerations:
Hybrid chain letter/ponzi, not trasparent system and primarily no stats at all. This makes really hard understand in which status is the system, and their very slow earning system should discourage to join.
Dr-Bitcoin.com
| http://i.imgur.com/zaUO6ju.jpg | Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 2,6-3,6% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gantz Rating: 3/10 |
Considerations:
They want big fishes, see their plans. In fact I considered only the dailys, other plans are just insanely high. Not transparent, can be easily manipulated. Potential longevity is compromised due to possibility to run away after that some big fish join. Their effort in the project can be considered a good thing.
Updates:
19/5/15 Potential Longevity from SHORT to MEDIUM
19/5/15 Concept from http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png to http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png
19/5/15 Gantz Rating from 1 to 3
Reason: After a little discussion in this thread I agreed that their effort into the project can be considered a good thing. Also a signal that they don't go away so quckly.
Re: [Last Update: May 18th, 2015] Weekly Ponzis Analysis & Ratings
Then this https://blockchain.info/address/1MZjMKya7BczKeaNVxygxzBMb1PvvoXSQf is the address where In&Out transactions converge?
Seems so...
Btw I really would see In&Out transactions for every player/bet in the queue in home, this should give to the system a good level of trasparency.
Like Dice sites, this game is also played from site wallet, i.e. off-chain. This enables us to earn referral commission, which is not possible on blockchain based games. Hence each bet can not be represented by blockchain Tx. In fact, the operator clearly stated that on www.crazyponzi.com/proof.php.
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Following are list of withdrawals from site wallet to player's addresses. These are different from the returned amount in the game. There are days when no player requested for a withdrawal.
Suggestion: I think you should sort your list in the decreasing order of Gantz rating in OP.
I understand, something can change, will see.
About your suggestion, I will think about it! Thanks
hi can you please give a review about mmmglobal.org?
Ok, it will be the next! Probably today later.
thankyou for making this thread, is really helpfull..
i hope u updated daily and expand to other site its hundred site like them in this section,,
i hope u updated daily and expand to other site its hundred site like them in this section,,
Thanks, yes i'm seeing, every day thare are many new sites!
Btw when I have time I will publish more analysis, ratings and will update the existing ones.
and i dont understand about gatz? what is it?
It's a changeable global vote that include my wish to join at the last update, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.
Re: [Last Update: May 18th, 2015] Weekly Ponzis Analysis & Ratings
Gantz Rating: 3/10
Updates:
18/5/15 Trasparency from http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png to http://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png
18/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 3
Reason: They don't publish deposit and payout transactions, this game can be easily manipulated. If owner is honest as he claims,
why don't publish them? Judge for yourself.
They have made a few upgrades in their website and now withdrawals are open for anyone to verify - www.crazyponzi.com/proof.php.
Then this https://blockchain.info/address/1MZjMKya7BczKeaNVxygxzBMb1PvvoXSQf is the address where In&Out transactions converge?
Btw I really would see In&Out transactions for every player/bet in the queue in home, this should give to the system a good level of trasparency.
48% of your initial deposit....
It takes 2 days and 2 hours to earn just your original deposit back and then another 2 days and 2 hours for your profit.
You are reading it wrong.
It takes 2 days and 2 hours to earn just your original deposit back and then another 2 days and 2 hours for your profit.
You are reading it wrong.
Man, 2% hourly = 48% daily.
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The fact you rated us 1/10 annoys me as we have paid over 13,500 times, and have not missed a single payment.
You are wrong, I rated you 0/10 atm, btw this vote (as explained in the first post) "It's a global vote that include my wish to join". For example if i had rated it at the start this vote would be more high. Your system WAS a really good opportunity in the early stage.
Unfortunately real HYIP investor don't join cryptohours like programs, it means you are going to have a lack of investors sooner or later, you are probably wondering why?
Easy mate, most of your investors mainly come from bitcointalk only. We also know that programs like that don't run for over 1 month max (because is totally unsustainable), it means that investors when will be in profit won't reinvest any cent... It's not safe for them.
Easy mate, most of your investors mainly come from bitcointalk only. We also know that programs like that don't run for over 1 month max (because is totally unsustainable), it means that investors when will be in profit won't reinvest any cent... It's not safe for them.
Exactly.