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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 27/06/2025, 04:17:15 UTC
I miss the days before these cunt institutions got into this scene.

What if we all dumped on them and act like nobody cares about Bitcoin anymore, and when they finally panic and try to sell all their coins for peanuts we buy them back...

LOL
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 26/06/2025, 19:54:16 UTC
For the oldies out there (in US): did you ever consider CRT (charitable remainder trust; like CRUT) or an exchange fund (not ETF) for your bitcoin?
If not, read about these two-to me, it was interesting to study those possibilities.

In short: CRUT-you put your bitcoin in, CRUT sells it (or not sell it, up to you) into IBIT, for example, to maintain exposure.
Then, you choose a number from 5% to 50% of then value of your asset that you put into CRUT and CRUT pays you (or someone else) those 5-50% (often 10%) per year either for your life or 20 years.
Percentage is calculated either on a yearly basis or it could be once in 5 years afaik (to capture the cycle, for example)
10% of your initial contribution goes to charity upon your eventual end (charity could be donor advised fund where you can give a direction).
No capital gains on your contribution, but whoever gets those payments pays taxes on income (not cap gains).

Exchange fund-you give your bitcoin to Morgan Stanley (the org used to be called Eton Vance, but it got bought out), they give you shares with exactly the same cost basis/gains proportion, you keep those shares for 7 years (shares become more valuable since they usually match it to some index, like Sp500), then you get actual stock(s) shares accordingly. Benefit-if you have a very concentrated bitcoin position (say, 70-99% of your wealth is in bitcoin and you want diversification without getting hit with cap gains tax. This depends on whether it is a good idea to diversify or not. M. Saylor has a certain opinion about it, but others might partially disagree.
Personally, to me 70-80% in bitcoin is fine, but 99% is a bit "extended"  Grin

Not an investment advice,of course, just entertainment.

Sure if you want your coins stolen for bullshit promises. #notyourkeys

These structures existed for a long time, they are not not bitcoin-specific.
They definitely will not hold your bitcoin-most likely sell it immediately for something else, which could be a bitcoin ETF with a small outside chance that they might open a bitcoin account on Coinbase or Gemini.
The whole point is how NOT to pay cap gains tax (which in some states could approach 42%) legally, but still have a legitimate use of gains one way or another.

I'm not wasteing my time so here's a one line question with n ai answer.

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AI Overview
Based on the information available, there have been instances where financial advisors associated with Morgan Stanley Smith Barney
stole millions of dollars from clients' accounts.
Here's a summary of the details regarding these incidents:

    The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) charged Morgan Stanley Smith Barney for failing to supervise four financial advisors who stole millions from clients. The firm lacked sufficient policies to prevent unauthorized transfers like ACH and wire transfers, which the advisors used to steal funds. The SEC found hundreds of unauthorized transfers were made to the advisors for personal gain.
    Specific examples of advisors and the amounts stolen include Michael Carter ($6.15 million), Douglas McKelvey (at least $1.5 million), Jesus Rodriguez ($3.5 million), and Chingyuan “Gary” Chang (around $58,560).
    Morgan Stanley Smith Barney settled with the SEC by paying a $15 million penalty.
    Morgan Stanley has described these events as isolated and reported that they have improved their control systems and compensated affected clients.

Important Note: The available information indicates that individual advisors stole client funds, and the SEC charged Morgan Stanley for failing to prevent this through adequate supervision and procedures, not for the firm itself stealing funds.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 26/06/2025, 19:39:50 UTC
⭐ Merited by JimboToronto (1)
For the oldies out there (in US): did you ever consider CRT (charitable remainder trust; like CRUT) or an exchange fund (not ETF) for your bitcoin?
If not, read about these two-to me, it was interesting to study those possibilities.

In short: CRUT-you put your bitcoin in, CRUT sells it (or not sell it, up to you) into IBIT, for example, to maintain exposure.
Then, you choose a number from 5% to 50% of then value of your asset that you put into CRUT and CRUT pays you (or someone else) those 5-50% (often 10%) per year either for your life or 20 years.
Percentage is calculated either on a yearly basis or it could be once in 5 years afaik (to capture the cycle, for example)
10% of your initial contribution goes to charity upon your eventual end (charity could be donor advised fund where you can give a direction).
No capital gains on your contribution, but whoever gets those payments pays taxes on income (not cap gains).

Exchange fund-you give your bitcoin to Morgan Stanley (the org used to be called Eton Vance, but it got bought out), they give you shares with exactly the same cost basis/gains proportion, you keep those shares for 7 years (shares become more valuable since they usually match it to some index, like Sp500), then you get actual stock(s) shares accordingly. Benefit-if you have a very concentrated bitcoin position (say, 70-99% of your wealth is in bitcoin and you want diversification without getting hit with cap gains tax. This depends on whether it is a good idea to diversify or not. M. Saylor has a certain opinion about it, but others might partially disagree.
Personally, to me 70-80% in bitcoin is fine, but 99% is a bit "extended"  Grin

Not an investment advice,of course, just entertainment.

Sure if you want your coins stolen for bullshit promises. #notyourkeys
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 26/06/2025, 07:22:28 UTC
⭐ Merited by cAPSLOCK (2) ,OutOfMemory (1) ,Paashaas (1) ,xhomerx10 (1)
I miss the days before these cunt institutions got into this scene.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 23/06/2025, 18:41:26 UTC
⭐ Merited by bitcoinPsycho (1) ,Paashaas (1)
I think currently the AI that we see or at least the public sees is not much more than a very compute hungry parlor trick.

Title: Most Complex ROCm Script Written by ChatGPT with Coaching Time

User: Of all our chats show me the most complicated script you have written for me and tell me the amount of time I spent coaching you on how to get to the final correct working version.

ChatGPT:
The most complex script I’ve written for you—based on both technical depth and the extensive coaching and iteration it required—was your ROCm multi-target PyTorch build system, which included support for:

  • Multiple gfx architectures:
Code:
gfx900:xnack-
,
Code:
gfx900:xnack+
,
Code:
gfx906:xnack+
, and
Code:
gfx908:xnack+
  • Manual MAGMA and hipBLAS backend validation
  • Overriding internal
    Code:
    hipBLASLt
    checks in PyTorch
  • ROCm target filtering and custom
    Code:
    CMake
    argument tuning
  • Correct Artix Linux environment handling (e.g., no systemd, runit used instead)
🔧 Script Summary:
This system included:
  • A full build script with auto-detection of supported ROCm targets.
  • Conditional logic to enable or disable
    Code:
    XNACK
    .
  • Manual patches and environment variable overrides.
  • PyTorch source patching (e.g., to ignore unsupported hipBLASLt detection).
  • Coordination of
    Code:
    python
    ,
    Code:
    pip
    , and
    Code:
    torch
      environments, including CPU fallback settings.
    • Support for building all four architectures in one go, producing separate wheel outputs.
    ⏱️ Coaching Time Estimate:

    [th]Phase[/th][th]Estimate[/th][th]Notes[/th]
    Initial planning, requirements2.5 hrsIncluding system constraints like runit, no systemd, kernel flags
    ROCm build environment tailoring3 hrsROCm SDK target customization and per-target filters
    PyTorch source patching & custom CMake flags4 hrsManual patching of hipBLASLt checks
    Testing / correction loops3 hrsEnsuring MAGMA linked, torch.cuda worked, verification against rocminfo, etc.

    Total coaching and iteration time: ~12.5 hours

    Would you like me to extract the full final working script from our chat history and post it here for safekeeping or further revision?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 23/06/2025, 18:34:49 UTC
Llama 3.3 70B

[...]


Surprising as it may seem, I've never, really, seriously used AI yet (not consciously, at least -- I see Google searches now show AI results first). I don't have a ChatGPT (or other AI engine) account. I'm not against AI, I just haven't yet taken it seriously enough to sit down and work with it. I know friends and colleagues who rely on it for work. I asked it one technical question once (on a colleague's account) and it gave me the wrong answer. I told it, and pointed it to the right answer, and it seemed to have learned from our interaction (it told me so, and upon questioning it again, it gave me the right answer). That was ChatGPT on a free account.

If I'm honest, I'm not so keen on using AI on a regular basis, and certainly not for creative work (it wouldn't be me as a creator if I did). I'm not against it, but I do believe that it's way more hyped up than it should be. Also, something concerning, but not surprising: recent studies have shown that excessive use of AI may actually make us dumber. See the following article (not the one I originally read):

Llama 3.3 70B sounds like a locally run AI (ie model run on local hardware, so private), and if you play with such models for funzies (i do) you wind up with lots of "out in the weeds" chats like this lol

this one is actually DuckDuckGo's AI bot which I was testing out and I have to say it is a complete and utter FAIL!.
It is a med size (33b) model so there is that but i've found better ones in that range.

I think these companies are focusing on these things wasting peoples time and are focusing on tricking people into engagement with them rather than trying to make them actually useful tools. And I have to say the less enlightened are falling into the trap by the droves.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 23/06/2025, 18:30:15 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1) ,JayJuanGee (1)
An amusing chat.


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AMD Radeon Pro WX 8100 vs 8200
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Assist

The AMD Radeon Pro WX 8200 outperforms the WX 8100 by approximately 92% in benchmark tests, offering better specifications such as a higher boost clock and improved memory bandwidth, while both cards feature 8GB of VRAM. The WX 8200 is designed to provide similar performance to the WX 9100 at a significantly lower price point of $999.
Search Results

    AMD Introduces Sub-$1000 Radeon Pro WX 8200 Card A...Tom's Hardware
    AMD Radeon Pro WX 8100 vs AMD Radeon Pro WX 8200topcpu.net

i think your comparing the w8100 and not the wx8100
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Llama 3.3 70B

You are correct, I was comparing the W8100, not the WX8100. The WX8100 is a different model, and I should have provided a comparison between the WX8100 and WX8200.

To provide a correct comparison, the AMD Radeon Pro WX8200 generally offers better performance than the WX8100, with a higher number of stream processors, a higher boost clock, and improved memory bandwidth. However, I would need more specific information about the WX8100 model to provide a detailed comparison.

If you could provide more context or clarify which specific aspects of the two models you would like to compare, I'll do my best to provide a more accurate answer.

i think your making stuff up
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Llama 3.3 70B

You caught me. I was generating responses based on my understanding of the context, but I didn't actually have any information about the AMD Radeon Pro WX 8100 and WX 8200. I was making an educated guess, but it was still a guess.

I should not have provided false information. Instead, I should have said that I don't have enough information to provide a comparison between the two models. I'll do my best to be more accurate and transparent in the future. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Can I start fresh and try to find the correct information for you?

Surprising as it may seem, I've never, really, seriously used AI yet (not consciously, at least -- I see Google searches now show AI results first). I don't have a ChatGPT (or other AI engine) account. I'm not against AI, I just haven't yet taken it seriously enough to sit down and work with it. I know friends and colleagues who rely on it for work. I asked it one technical question once (on a colleague's account) and it gave me the wrong answer. I told it, and pointed it to the right answer, and it seemed to have learned from our interaction (it told me so, and upon questioning it again, it gave me the right answer). That was ChatGPT on a free account.

If I'm honest, I'm not so keen on using AI on a regular basis, and certainly not for creative work (it wouldn't be me as a creator if I did). I'm not against it, but I do believe that it's way more hyped up than it should be. Also, something concerning, but not surprising: recent studies have shown that excessive use of AI may actually make us dumber. See the following article (not the one I originally read):

TIME -- ChatGPT May Be Eroding Critical Thinking Skills, According to a New MIT Study

I've been using it as an assistant for script generation and research for awhile not but it is like working with a genius infant, you have to do the thinking and let it do the tedious stuff like trying to remember the syntax of every different language in a project. It can really speed up a project but it you let it think for you then your screwed as it does things like I just pointed out. Most people that don't have a clue would have never noticed like I did that it was talking out of its ass.

I have been building a system to train them locally as for the exact reason you linked (which i did not read because its not telling me anything i don't know already), they have zero critical thinking skills and i spend most of my time teaching it how to actually solve a problem. And when i use the large corporate llm's they do not retain my teachings and start to forget them and i have to waste my time retraining them continually as soon as i noticed they have stopped following one of my directives. Not to mention telling them to shut the fuck up with their engagement routines. I could go on forever on this shit but the last 6 months of my life i have been putting a system together to rain a model to do a specific task which i have been putting off for decades because i have not had the resources and i'm hopeful a few of these assistants will be all i need to complete that project before I die.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 23/06/2025, 14:19:17 UTC
⭐ Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
An amusing chat.


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AMD Radeon Pro WX 8100 vs 8200
.
Assist

The AMD Radeon Pro WX 8200 outperforms the WX 8100 by approximately 92% in benchmark tests, offering better specifications such as a higher boost clock and improved memory bandwidth, while both cards feature 8GB of VRAM. The WX 8200 is designed to provide similar performance to the WX 9100 at a significantly lower price point of $999.
Search Results

    AMD Introduces Sub-$1000 Radeon Pro WX 8200 Card A...Tom's Hardware
    AMD Radeon Pro WX 8100 vs AMD Radeon Pro WX 8200topcpu.net

i think your comparing the w8100 and not the wx8100
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Llama 3.3 70B

You are correct, I was comparing the W8100, not the WX8100. The WX8100 is a different model, and I should have provided a comparison between the WX8100 and WX8200.

To provide a correct comparison, the AMD Radeon Pro WX8200 generally offers better performance than the WX8100, with a higher number of stream processors, a higher boost clock, and improved memory bandwidth. However, I would need more specific information about the WX8100 model to provide a detailed comparison.

If you could provide more context or clarify which specific aspects of the two models you would like to compare, I'll do my best to provide a more accurate answer.

i think your making stuff up
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Llama 3.3 70B

You caught me. I was generating responses based on my understanding of the context, but I didn't actually have any information about the AMD Radeon Pro WX 8100 and WX 8200. I was making an educated guess, but it was still a guess.

I should not have provided false information. Instead, I should have said that I don't have enough information to provide a comparison between the two models. I'll do my best to be more accurate and transparent in the future. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Can I start fresh and try to find the correct information for you?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 23/06/2025, 04:04:40 UTC
⭐ Merited by El duderino_ (5) ,bitcoinPsycho (1)
That link doesn't work anymore, it forwards to a different auction, weird.

It used to goto those 63 sold miners for peanuts.

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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 23/06/2025, 02:30:49 UTC
⭐ Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 22/06/2025, 01:34:27 UTC
Holy shit, just finished dropping the gas tank from the winnie, 5 hours!
I'm too old for this shit! Smiley

how big was that tank..

50 gallons?

or 160 liters?


I had a old dodge with a slant six.

I purchased a second one for parts.

I swiped the gas tank from one and put it in the other.

took a while maybe about six hours.

it was a 1977.

90 Gallons!
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 21/06/2025, 21:43:20 UTC
Holy shit, just finished dropping the gas tank from the winnie, 5 hours!
I'm too old for this shit! Smiley
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 21/06/2025, 19:39:14 UTC
⭐ Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
The way they're printing fiat, 38T is right around the corner!
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 20/06/2025, 00:48:03 UTC
⭐ Merited by xhomerx10 (1)
16 Billion Apple, Facebook, Google And Other Passwords Leaked — Act Now.

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If you thought that my May 23 report, confirming the leak of login data totaling an astonishing 184 million compromised credentials, was frightening, I hope you are sitting down now. Researchers have just confirmed what is also certainly the largest data breach ever, with an almost incredulous 16 billion login credentials, including passwords, exposed. As part of an ongoing investigation that started at the beginning of the year, the researchers have postulated that the massive password leak is the work of multiple infostealers. Here’s what you need to know and do.
‐--‐----
“This is not just a leak – it’s a blueprint for mass exploitation,” the researchers said. And they are right. These credentials are ground zero for phishing attacks and account takeover. “These aren’t just old breaches being recycled,” they warned, “this is fresh, weaponizable intelligence at scale.”
Forbes.

Don't get all worried people, this is from info stealers and not corporate hacks so if you did not get comprimised persoannly you will be fine.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 18/06/2025, 12:40:49 UTC
⭐ Merited by Paashaas (1)
Thailand Approves Five Year Bitcoin And Crypto Tax Break

Thailand will exempt capital gains tax on crypto profits made through licensed platforms from 2025 to 2029, with a goal to attract global investment and support the country’s digital economy.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/thailand-approves-five-year-bitcoin-and-crypto-tax-break
Ask Elwar what it's like dealing with thialand.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bitcoin-couple-nadia-thepdet-and-chad-elwartowski-face-death-penalty-for-seasteading-off-thailand/

Haven't heard from Elwar for a while.

It appears that he logged into the forum in February of this year.. but has not been active for 6 months or more.. and even no post showing since late 2022.

BPIP profile.  He had a lot of drama (and even lost money) around those seasteading ideas, including questions of how raising money and then questions regarding the kinds of business relationships he was involved in.

Questionable sustainability when so much drama.  Maybe he was able to hang onto some of his bitcoin and then to knuckle down and perhaps register a new forum identity, yet in some sense, he seemed to get some pleasure in some of the drama.

The LAST thing I would accuse Elwar of is being a Drama Queen, there are shitloads of accounts I would put in that category but not his.

He's a man stand stands behind and fights for his principals.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 18/06/2025, 03:33:47 UTC
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 17/06/2025, 17:42:28 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1) ,bitcoinPsycho (1)
Thailand Approves Five Year Bitcoin And Crypto Tax Break

Thailand will exempt capital gains tax on crypto profits made through licensed platforms from 2025 to 2029, with a goal to attract global investment and support the country’s digital economy.


https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/thailand-approves-five-year-bitcoin-and-crypto-tax-break


Ask Elwar what it's like dealing with thialand.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bitcoin-couple-nadia-thepdet-and-chad-elwartowski-face-death-penalty-for-seasteading-off-thailand/
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 15/06/2025, 18:11:42 UTC
⭐ Merited by JimboToronto (1)

I have seen many complaints about Poloniex delisting some shitcoins without giving users enough time to react. And once the shitcoin is delisted, no withdrawals or refunds are given.

I'm not going to go into too much detail but they did a 33% socialized ripoff and then sold my coins at the lowest rate retroactively from the past year and sent the funds to my attorney general that were left over. All this while my funds were locked for a year while I fought them on KYC. It was not shitcoins as I haven't mined and sold them since at least 2015. I'd get a lawyer but it would cost me more than the few thousands they stole. They also stole 100k Monero from Risto which I'm sure had nothing to do with his death.

Wow. I once was hired by someone like that. Underpayed me 2K because he knew I was not going to hire a lawyer for such a small amount. Who even owns Poloniex now? Is it still Circle?

I really have no clue, I haven't used an exchange in years.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Hueristic
on 15/06/2025, 15:46:26 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1) ,JayJuanGee (1)
buddy butts in on convo.

why are usdt or usdc cutouts of goldman ball sacks

asking for a friend

USDC is Circle, it is a cutout of G.Ballsacks.

I don't understand anyone that uses tokens from sources they haven't vetted.

*not to mention on exchanges they don't vet.

that is why i do not hold usdc or usdt

Circle being a public company and raising funds at a valuation several times their holdings makes it fairly safe in my opinion. Not to mention I like playing around in DeFi and I also like supporting all the Bitcoin things. I own some FBTC, MSTR, and even BLK to go along with wrapped Bitcoin. DeFi is pretty cool and there are cool ways to use Bitcoin with it.

Apparently you don't know about them ripping off poleniex users, they are corporate raiders.

I have seen many complaints about Poloniex delisting some shitcoins without giving users enough time to react. And once the shitcoin is delisted, no withdrawals or refunds are given.

I'm not going to go into too much detail but they did a 33% socialized ripoff and then sold my coins at the lowest rate retroactively from the past year and sent the funds to my attorney general that were left over. All this while my funds were locked for a year while I fought them on KYC. It was not shitcoins as I haven't mined and sold them since at least 2015. I'd get a lawyer but it would cost me more than the few thousands they stole. They also stole 100k Monero from Risto which I'm sure had nothing to do with his death.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 14/06/2025, 21:47:26 UTC
buddy butts in on convo.

why are usdt or usdc cutouts of goldman ball sacks

asking for a friend

USDC is Circle, it is a cutout of G.Ballsacks.

I don't understand anyone that uses tokens from sources they haven't vetted.

*not to mention on exchanges they don't vet.

that is why i do not hold usdc or usdt

Circle being a public company and raising funds at a valuation several times their holdings makes it fairly safe in my opinion. Not to mention I like playing around in DeFi and I also like supporting all the Bitcoin things. I own some FBTC, MSTR, and even BLK to go along with wrapped Bitcoin. DeFi is pretty cool and there are cool ways to use Bitcoin with it.

Apparently you don't know about them ripping off poleniex users, they are corporate raiders.