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Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
The majority including me find their tantrums sad since they are still trying to defend a president who has failed in so many aspects and doesn't deserve that position.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/with-historic-win-in-georgia-bidens-projected-electoral-college-vote-tally-matches-trumps-in-2016/amp_articleshow/79221449.cms
Above article shows the official tally so far which clearly shows a big margin between Biden and Trump. His own family is against him currently.
Some rumours even mention Melania planning on divorcing Trump and taking a decent portion of his funds with her. As they say, what goes around comes back around.
I have a very bad news for Melenia if she thinks she can take anything from Trump. Dude made himself knowingly look as poor as it gets and paid only 750 dollars in taxes, do you really think she can take anything from him when he can do accounting hacks as much as he wants and make it look like he owns absolutely nothing that could be given to her? She would take nothing but maybe a tiny amount that is nothing compared to what Trump claims he owns.https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/with-historic-win-in-georgia-bidens-projected-electoral-college-vote-tally-matches-trumps-in-2016/amp_articleshow/79221449.cms
Above article shows the official tally so far which clearly shows a big margin between Biden and Trump. His own family is against him currently.
Some rumours even mention Melania planning on divorcing Trump and taking a decent portion of his funds with her. As they say, what goes around comes back around.
So, when Biden takes over, Trump needs to be trialed and see where it goes, Trump fans could yell and argue as much as they want but this country has laws and courts for a reason and as long as courts are on the right and against the wrong, we are never going to have any problems at all like this again.
Real news is legal data is looking good, PA invalidated 650k ballots, US Army raided dominion servers in USA. Twitter shutting down dominionvotingsystems hashtag and more.
Imagine claiming to be the majority...
Imagine using gossip to prove a point...
You know nothing, global gambling leading platforms are holding this for a reason.
You claim to know more than them: https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/gambling-sites-refuse-to-call-election-for-biden-leaving-600-million-in-limbo
The Kraken is about be released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFCXPw1t17o&ab_channel=TheEricMetaxasRadioShow
Make sure to read the fake news after Jan 20th.
This thread is gonna look funny in two months. I'm out of this convo, totally pointless to discuss this here.
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
There is a 99.9999% chance that the government and everyone around him wouldn't allow him to do something like that and secret service will escort him out if he even tries to do something like that, but in reality if he was given that power dude definitely would have kept the seat even while not getting elected, he will not do it only because he can't not because he won't. That is very very scary.
Scary? Lol. Trump will probably be whining about his loss for the rest of his life. Blonde wig Trump has been ousted successfully and majority of the world is rejoicing which is exactly what the world needed thanks to the pandemic which is the actual scary deal. What is scary is brainwashed people denying evidence and fraud on the democrat side only because they hate the character of Trump. Integrity and fair elections is shouldn't be a topic of debate
Integrity and Trump don't match. I am curious to see whether you will continue campaigning for that idiot even when Biden officially takes up the presidency early next year.Who are you to arrogantly judge the POTUS and make personal remarks? Ah yes, nobody. In all these coping answers you haven't made a single point on the evidence, totally in denial.
It surely shows who posts facts and who's posturing here... Learn politics before talking, you know nothing about this and if you're American that's even worst. Your zero effort cope is screenshotted for demoralization thread later. Evidence is quite clear, denying this is very stupid and delusional tbh. The thing that amazes me the most is that you don't have any shame in displaying your ignorance by making these stupid "considerations".
You clearly lack effort and knowledge in this field so you have to substitute this lack of factual knowledge with personal and ignorant remarks, because you don't have anything better to say than "orange man bad" pathetic NPC. I, on the other hand, don't know sports and would never talk about sports because serious people talk only about what they're informed in and you're clearly not informed about the election.
This CNN boy doesn't have a clue of what's going on in this election, let alone making predictions about it. Go study if you can, then cope, how can someone be this ignorant LMAO
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
There is a 99.9999% chance that the government and everyone around him wouldn't allow him to do something like that and secret service will escort him out if he even tries to do something like that, but in reality if he was given that power dude definitely would have kept the seat even while not getting elected, he will not do it only because he can't not because he won't. That is very very scary.
Scary? Lol. Trump will probably be whining about his loss for the rest of his life. Blonde wig Trump has been ousted successfully and majority of the world is rejoicing which is exactly what the world needed thanks to the pandemic which is the actual scary deal. What is scary is brainwashed people denying evidence and fraud on the democrat side only because they hate the character of Trump. Integrity and fair elections is shouldn't be a topic of debate
Integrity and Trump don't match. I am curious to see whether you will continue campaigning for that idiot even when Biden officially takes up the presidency early next year.Who are you to arrogantly and personally judge the POTUS? Ah yes, nobody. In all these coping answers you haven't made a single point on the evidence, all you say is "orange man bad", like an NPC.
It surely shows who posts facts and who's posturing. . Learn politics before talking, you know nothing about this and if you're American that's even worst. Your zero effort cope is screenshotted for later.
Go study because your really need to LMAO
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
There is a 99.9999% chance that the government and everyone around him wouldn't allow him to do something like that and secret service will escort him out if he even tries to do something like that, but in reality if he was given that power dude definitely would have kept the seat even while not getting elected, he will not do it only because he can't not because he won't. That is very very scary.
Scary? Lol. Trump will probably be whining about his loss for the rest of his life. Blonde wig Trump has been ousted successfully and majority of the world is rejoicing which is exactly what the world needed thanks to the pandemic which is the actual scary deal. What is scary is brainwashed people denying evidence and fraud on the democrat side only because they hate the character of Trump. Integrity and fair elections is shouldn't be a topic of debate
Integrity and Trump don't match. I am curious to see whether you will continue campaigning for that idiot even when Biden officially takes up the presidency early next year.Who are you to judge the POTUS? Ah yes, nobody. Keep making personal remarks, it surely shows who posts facts and who's not. Screenshotting this for golden thread later. Noob.
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
I am happy to say that I have had a chat with the team and we removed the voter fraud/revote aspects of the terms and conditions to make it more straight forward. All of that pretty much went without saying though we would have paid out regardless. https://news.stake.com/us-election-2020-statement/
Isn't it kind of scary article? I mean I am not saying it is impossible but isn't it a bit scary at all? Look at the section that says "scenario where Trump will not be declared a winner" it has stuff like "trump successfully carries out a coup" and "simply refuses to leave the white house in January" which are very very scary things if you ask me and it is not even funny that we think these are things he would want to do.There is a 99.9999% chance that the government and everyone around him wouldn't allow him to do something like that and secret service will escort him out if he even tries to do something like that, but in reality if he was given that power dude definitely would have kept the seat even while not getting elected, he will not do it only because he can't not because he won't. That is very very scary.
What is scary is brainwashed people denying evidence and fraud on the democrat side only because they hate the character of Trump. Integrity and fair elections is shouldn't be a topic of debate... Anyways, this kind of talk here makes me laugh because the ignorance and brainwash is just too much. Also as said by many users here, betnomi is a scam don't advertise that scam here
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Lamborghini Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 �� 🥊 🎲
I doubt that you will face any problem at all aside from the fact that your provider will pay you in February (from your own account ) while you are paying right now, that is the only thing that you are going to miss out, few months of not getting paid for something you should be getting paid for and that's it.
We have seen tens of cases Trump campaign has already getting rejected, they have ZERO proof that anything could go own their way, people keep claiming "let's wait for the courts!" but the reality is, courts are not even accepting his plea, so at the end of the day we do not even have to wait for Trump to win any court case because those cases are not even being heard let alone get a decision in the end. So, Biden win is 100% guaranteed at this point, only thing stake loses right now would be not getting paid for few months.
There is really no need to even make any claims neither, this has been going on for over a week now and we can safely assume that Trump has nothing to show for, he is just an old stubborn narcissistic person who lives in a dream bubble where he is always awesome and the only way he could ever lose would be others cheating him out of what is rightfully his, to him whenever he enters something he should get it because he is that awesome, delusions of grandeur caused by being born into wealth and able to provide money to whatever he wants to get. Biden is the winner, it is over, there is really no need to explain "why" he is the winner and there is no need to explain "what could happen" to make trump winner, it ain't happening and that is the end of the story. We have seen tens of cases Trump campaign has already getting rejected, they have ZERO proof that anything could go own their way, people keep claiming "let's wait for the courts!" but the reality is, courts are not even accepting his plea, so at the end of the day we do not even have to wait for Trump to win any court case because those cases are not even being heard let alone get a decision in the end. So, Biden win is 100% guaranteed at this point, only thing stake loses right now would be not getting paid for few months.
Screencapped this for later
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
Its just a matter of time that Trump will be the next president. Fraud is so clear. He will win via 270 after count or in the supreme court. I cant believe this bookie already pay the people who bet biden just cause the media says Biden win haha i though it was the secretary of state the one who should say that. You are going to lose a lot of money
No, Trump already lose. See this https://www.realclearpolitics.com Biden has got 279 while Trump still at 217. Biden early payout surely won't be a problem for stake
Do you understand the meaning of projection? lol. hopeless
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
This is our biggest market ever on stake, the risk for us is in the millions so it definitely sparked a debate internally. Our odds provider is not settling it until next year and we couldn't hold user funds till feb or prematurely say that trump had lost just because the media has called the race. We did however create a set of criteria for what a trump win would constitute in case Trump plots a coup 
. We tried to hit the right balance here and it has been amazing to see that bettors on both sides of the market have been telling us they are satisfied with our decision.
. We tried to hit the right balance here and it has been amazing to see that bettors on both sides of the market have been telling us they are satisfied with our decision. The criteria listed is as follows:
Quote from: Stake
Given that we are taking bets on the result of the election a winning Trump bet will only be possible if certain criteria are satisfied. All of the following would need to occur:
1. Voter fraud is proven
2. Votes are recast
3. Trump receives 270+ electoral college votes
4. Biden concedes
1. Voter fraud is proven
2. Votes are recast
3. Trump receives 270+ electoral college votes
4. Biden concedes
Problems with this criteria were brought up previously in this thread but not addressed.
1. Voter fraud is "likely to be found" according to some authorities, but the Trump campaign, the US DOJ, and Republican legislatures seem to be focusing on election fraud. That is systematic fraud conducted by the State rather than individual voters.
2. This is ambiguous. I do not believe this is referring to the selection of electors by the state or the voted conducted by the electoral college, as neither event has happened yet. This is probably talking about votes cast by the people. If so, to my knowledge, this has never happened in a US Presidential election. Votes are invalidated every year for many reasons. It seems likely that if the Trump campaign and GOP efforts are successful, then certain votes will be invalidated with no chance to be recast.
4. There is no requirement for a losing presidential candidate to secede in a US Presidential election.
The only decisive point in determining this contest is #3. I understand that sportsbooks need the ability to exercise discretion in cases where the results of a contest are contentious, but that discretion should be applied fairly and uniformly. Stake is paying out Biden bets on the basis that the electoral college will elect him. That should be the only criteria necessary to pay out Trump bets.
Note that I have no wager on this contest with this sportsbook. I'm just a little surprised to see this from Stake.
I agree.
You're opening yourself up to an even bigger headache with these stipulations.
#3 is all you need
Yeah I agree the language is not ideal, and for example voter fraud does not need to be proven for it to be a Trump win. Originally the post said that an example scenario would look something like this and it was edited by our sports team to say "all of the following" to basically give them a right of refusal over some weird situations that could arise. We will discuss internally and see if we can loosen it up a bit. As I mentioned towards the end we would be using "logic and reasonability" to determine the outcome so I could not imagine a scenario where trump won electoral college and we wouldn't pay out. That being said in my opinion it is hyper unlikely that trump will hit 270 electoral college votes without a re-vote or something major happening but stranger things have happened.
UPDATE: I am happy to say that I have had a chat with the team and we removed the voter fraud/revote aspects of the terms and conditions to make it more straight forward. All of that pretty much went without saying though we would have paid out regardless. https://news.stake.com/us-election-2020-statement/
.4 should be addressed.
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Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
This is our biggest market ever on stake, the risk for us is in the millions so it definitely sparked a debate internally. Our odds provider is not settling it until next year and we couldn't hold user funds till feb or prematurely say that trump had lost just because the media has called the race. We did however create a set of criteria for what a trump win would constitute in case Trump plots a coup . We tried to hit the right balance here and it has been amazing to see that bettors on both sides of the market have been telling us they are satisfied with our decision.
. We tried to hit the right balance here and it has been amazing to see that bettors on both sides of the market have been telling us they are satisfied with our decision. The criteria listed is as follows:
Quote from: Stake
Given that we are taking bets on the result of the election a winning Trump bet will only be possible if certain criteria are satisfied. All of the following would need to occur:
1. Voter fraud is proven
2. Votes are recast
3. Trump receives 270+ electoral college votes
4. Biden concedes
1. Voter fraud is proven
2. Votes are recast
3. Trump receives 270+ electoral college votes
4. Biden concedes
Problems with this criteria were brought up previously in this thread but not addressed.
1. Voter fraud is "likely to be found" according to some authorities, but the Trump campaign, the US DOJ, and Republican legislatures seem to be focusing on election fraud. That is systematic fraud conducted by the State rather than individual voters.
2. This is ambiguous. I do not believe this is referring to the selection of electors by the state or the voted conducted by the electoral college, as neither event has happened yet. This is probably talking about votes cast by the people. If so, to my knowledge, this has never happened in a US Presidential election. Votes are invalidated every year for many reasons. It seems likely that if the Trump campaign and GOP efforts are successful, then certain votes will be invalidated with no chance to be recast.
4. There is no requirement for a losing presidential candidate to secede in a US Presidential election.
The only decisive point in determining this contest is #3. I understand that sportsbooks need the ability to exercise discretion in cases where the results of a contest are contentious, but that discretion should be applied fairly and uniformly. Stake is paying out Biden bets on the basis that the electoral college will elect him. That should be the only criteria necessary to pay out Trump bets.
Note that I have no wager on this contest with this sportsbook. I'm just a little surprised to see this from Stake.
I agree.
You're opening yourself up to an even bigger headache with these stipulations.
#3 is all you need
in 2016, the allegations were pressed by dems after the official result was promulgated, they questioned the election integrity later.
In 2016 the media declared Trump the projected winner and Clinton conceded almost immediately. That's completely different than the House exercising the constitutional right to impeach.
This year, bad things are happening and they don't cooperate to see if there isintegrity or not,
No partisans need to cooperate to see if there's integrity or not, in fact it would only make it worse if they did. There are election officials and procedures already in place and there's a judicial branch to determine if the law was broken and how to remedy the situation if so.Yeah I agree the language is not ideal, and for example voter fraud does not need to be proven for it to be a Trump win. Originally the post said that an example scenario would look something like this and it was edited by our sports team to say "all of the following" to basically give them a right of refusal over some weird situations that could arise. We will discuss internally and see if we can loosen it up a bit. As I mentioned towards the end we would be using "logic and reasonability" to determine the outcome so I could not imagine a scenario where trump won electoral college and we wouldn't pay out. That being said in my opinion it is hyper unlikely that trump will hit 270 electoral college votes without a re-vote or something major happening but stranger things have happened.
UPDATE: I am happy to say that I have had a chat with the team and we removed the voter fraud/revote aspects of the terms and conditions to make it more straight forward. All of that pretty much went without saying though we would have paid out regardless. https://news.stake.com/us-election-2020-statement/
.4 is not addressed
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
Wow. Didn't know this. This is just one more reason why Trump is easily one of the worst world leaders ever and it's sad to see people like Hybridverse trying their best to defend such a pathetic fool.
Donald Trump was not a typical politician but a media personality and a billionaire and he did not change much in his personality that did not suite a president but if you take a overall look i am not sure you can call him the worst world leader consider he did not start a new war that could drain billions.I was honestly surprised to see Biden not winning by a landslide which just goes to show that many Americans still believe in Trump which is abnormal on so many levels.
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It just shows that US is divided and even with all the hate that was shown as demonstration in the public there was a huge percentage that came out to vote for Trump.
Make sure to screencap for eternal gold demoralization later
https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1605221967706.png
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Lamborghini Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 �� 🥊 🎲
I think the meaning behind this is that they would expect Biden to not challenge the result similar to what Trump is doing now.
That's exactly the problem then, isn't it? Stake is willing to pay out a Biden bet despite a dispute from Trump, but perhaps wouldn't pay out a Trump bet if there was a dispute from Biden per that interpretation.
This needs to be addressed by admins because it's unclear, I reiterate the request in case it hasn't been seen yet....
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Lamborghini Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 �� 🥊 🎲
I think the meaning behind this is that they would expect Biden to not challenge the result similar to what Trump is doing now.
That's exactly the problem then, isn't it? Stake is willing to pay out a Biden bet despite a dispute from Trump, but perhaps wouldn't pay out a Trump bet if there was a dispute from Biden per that interpretation.
This needs to be addressed by admins because it's unclear, I reiterate the request in as it hasn't been addressed yet.
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Lamborghini Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 �� 🥊 🎲
I think the meaning behind this is that they would expect Biden to not challenge the result similar to what Trump is doing now.
That's exactly the problem then, isn't it? Stake is willing to pay out a Biden bet despite a dispute from Trump, but perhaps wouldn't pay out a Trump bet if there was a dispute from Biden per that interpretation.
This needs to be addressed
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
Never.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/no-modern-presidential-candidate-refused-to-concede-heres-why-that-matters
Did Nixon being the most controversial due to a war going on during his term, hold out for this long and not concede?
Wow. Didn't know this. This is just one more reason why Trump is easily one of the worst world leaders ever and it's sad to see people like Hybridverse trying their best to defend such a pathetic fool.https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/no-modern-presidential-candidate-refused-to-concede-heres-why-that-matters
Did Nixon being the most controversial due to a war going on during his term, hold out for this long and not concede?
I was honestly surprised to see Biden not winning by a landslide which just goes to show that many Americans still believe in Trump which is abnormal on so many levels.
I hope that the USA never elects such a buffoon to power ever again in the future.
HEAD OF GEORGIA ELECTORAL COMMISSION: WE WILL FIND THAT PEOPLE ILLEGALLY VOTED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgMZKJ3UYk&ab_channel=BloombergQuicktake%3ANow
How is this deniable? You and your friends avoid the real topics here, very ignorant behavior and is for every reader on this thread looking for true information to see you avoiding the truth and being in denial.
Can't wait to see the results. If you're American you're a traitor tbh because this is very serious what dems are doing. You "orange man bad" people are brainwashed.
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
Never.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/no-modern-presidential-candidate-refused-to-concede-heres-why-that-matters
Did Nixon being the most controversial due to a war going on during his term, hold out for this long and not concede?
Wow. Didn't know this. This is just one more reason why Trump is easily one of the worst world leaders ever and it's sad to see people like Hybridverse trying their best to defend such a pathetic fool.https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/no-modern-presidential-candidate-refused-to-concede-heres-why-that-matters
Did Nixon being the most controversial due to a war going on during his term, hold out for this long and not concede?
I was honestly surprised to see Biden not winning by a landslide which just goes to show that many Americans still believe in Trump which is abnormal on so many levels.
I hope that the USA never elects such a buffoon to power ever again in the future.
Ignorant
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
My Biden bets were paid out a few days ago. My Trump hedges are still pending...
Were these for your bets on the sportsbook site in your signature space?
Because if you bet on trump then it will take awhile with all the debunking of the evidence they are putting out of false/grasping of straws allegation of voter fraud. Trumps legal team claimed one instance of evidence they had was of a democratic voter ripping up ballots showing votes for trump on them.
Yet it was determined to be a video published on tik tok which was "You have been punk'd" intended to the show if trump's lawyers would take the bait. And they certainly did and ran with it.
tik tok... lol
That's fake news, debunk the electoral head of Georgia saying they're going to find illegal votes in the recount, this is just for starters, you know it's big because even biased AP can't help but report it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNENScVuRvM&ab_channel=AssociatedPress
Stop spreading fake news DYOR
Makes him look like a better call saul type lawyer.
And yes everyone and even the other media outlets are reporting about the Georgia recounts are happening.
So just stop what your doing by calling other people names on a their announcement thread.
If you want to continue with these political spam posts I would suggest to start your own thread in the proper topic located here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0
The Political & Society child board!
Enjoy the month long recounts everyone!
That's fake news, debunk the electoral head of Georgia saying they're going to find illegal votes in the recount, this is just for starters, you know it's big because even biased AP can't help but report it
You really need some help just like so many other Trump supporters. Your rants won't change a thing. Campaigning for Trump in this thread is pointless when the results are loud and clear.Georgia recount will produce the same result though Trump will probably try to cheat which won't work. I don't remember the last time a US president humiliated himself by not conceding after a clear defeat.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/no-modern-presidential-candidate-refused-to-concede-heres-why-that-matters
Did Nixon being the most controversial due to a war going on during his term, hold out for this long and not concede?
national geographic? Are you kidding me? The Presidential winner doesn't have to concede accordingly to the US Constitution. Also as many users already pointed out in this thread, Trump has not conceded so why biden bettors have received the early payout? But if Trump wins and Biden doesn't concede that would be an unfair rule upon Trump bettors, this is quite clear why it should be removed. The rules are laid in the Law and 270+ electoral college votes resulting from official results certified by each state of the union. This is politics not sports. National Geographic is bs
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
My Biden bets were paid out a few days ago. My Trump hedges are still pending...
Were these for your bets on the sportsbook site in your signature space?
Because if you bet on trump then it will take awhile with all the debunking of the evidence they are putting out of false/grasping of straws allegation of voter fraud. Trumps legal team claimed one instance of evidence they had was of a democratic voter ripping up ballots showing votes for trump on them.
Yet it was determined to be a video published on tik tok which was "You have been punk'd" intended to the show if trump's lawyers would take the bait. And they certainly did and ran with it.
tik tok... lol
That's fake news, debunk the electoral head of Georgia saying they're going to find illegal votes in the recount, this is just for starters, you know it's big because even biased AP can't help but report it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNENScVuRvM&ab_channel=AssociatedPress
Stop spreading fake news DYOR
Makes him look like a better call saul type lawyer.
And yes everyone and even the other media outlets are reporting about the Georgia recounts are happening.
So just stop what your doing by calling other people names on a their announcement thread.
If you want to continue with these political spam posts I would suggest to start your own thread in the proper topic located here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0
The Political & Society child board!
Enjoy the month long recounts everyone!
That's fake news, debunk the electoral head of Georgia saying they're going to find illegal votes in the recount, this is just for starters, you know it's big because even biased AP can't help but report it
You really need some help just like so many other Trump supporters. Your rants won't change a thing. Campaigning for Trump in this thread is pointless when the results are loud and clear.Georgia recount will produce the same result though Trump will probably try to cheat which won't work. I don't remember the last time a US president humiliated himself by not conceding after a clear defeat.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/no-modern-presidential-candidate-refused-to-concede-heres-why-that-matters
Did Nixon being the most controversial due to a war going on during his term, hold out for this long and not concede?
You sport bettors don't have a clue and I won't bother explaining to you all, don't delete this in 2 weeks. You are all so sure of your assumptions.... Ignorance is always sure before truth manifests
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
That's fake news, debunk the electoral head of Georgia saying they're going to find illegal votes in the recount, this is just for starters, you know it's big because even biased AP can't help but report it
You really need some help just like so many other Trump supporters. Your rants won't change a thing. Campaigning for Trump in this thread is pointless when the results are loud and clear.Georgia recount will produce the same result though Trump will probably try to cheat which won't work. I don't remember the last time a US president humiliated himself by not conceding after a clear defeat.
Come back here in 2 weeks and read what you're saying, sport bettor
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
My Biden bets were paid out a few days ago. My Trump hedges are still pending...
Were these for your bets on the sportsbook site in your signature space?
Because if you bet on trump then it will take awhile with all the debunking of the evidence they are putting out of false/grasping of straws allegation of voter fraud. Trumps legal team claimed one instance of evidence they had was of a democratic voter ripping up ballots showing votes for trump on them.
Yet it was determined to be a video published on tik tok which was "You have been punk'd" intended to the show if trump's lawyers would take the bait. And they certainly did and ran with it.
That's fake news, debunk the electoral head of Georgia saying that they're going to find illegal votes in the recount, even AP can't hide it at this point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNENScVuRvM&ab_channel=AssociatedPress
Stop the fake news man DYOR or wait to be debunked
Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Biden Early Payout! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
This is our biggest market ever on stake, the risk for us is in the millions so it definitely sparked a debate internally. Our odds provider is not settling it until next year and we couldn't hold user funds till feb or prematurely say that trump had lost just because the media has called the race. We did however create a set of criteria for what a trump win would constitute in case Trump plots a coup . We tried to hit the right balance here and it has been amazing to see that bettors on both sides of the market have been telling us they are satisfied with our decision.
. We tried to hit the right balance here and it has been amazing to see that bettors on both sides of the market have been telling us they are satisfied with our decision. The criteria listed is as follows:
Quote from: Stake
Given that we are taking bets on the result of the election a winning Trump bet will only be possible if certain criteria are satisfied. All of the following would need to occur:
1. Voter fraud is proven
2. Votes are recast
3. Trump receives 270+ electoral college votes
4. Biden concedes
1. Voter fraud is proven
2. Votes are recast
3. Trump receives 270+ electoral college votes
4. Biden concedes
Problems with this criteria were brought up previously in this thread but not addressed.
1. Voter fraud is "likely to be found" according to some authorities, but the Trump campaign, the US DOJ, and Republican legislatures seem to be focusing on election fraud. That is systematic fraud conducted by the State rather than individual voters.
2. This is ambiguous. I do not believe this is referring to the selection of electors by the state or the voted conducted by the electoral college, as neither event has happened yet. This is probably talking about votes cast by the people. If so, to my knowledge, this has never happened in a US Presidential election. Votes are invalidated every year for many reasons. It seems likely that if the Trump campaign and GOP efforts are successful, then certain votes will be invalidated with no chance to be recast.
4. There is no requirement for a losing presidential candidate to secede in a US Presidential election.
The only decisive point in determining this contest is #3. I understand that sportsbooks need the ability to exercise discretion in cases where the results of a contest are contentious, but that discretion should be applied fairly and uniformly. Stake is paying out Biden bets on the basis that the electoral college will elect him. That should be the only criteria necessary to pay out Trump bets.
Note that I have no wager on this contest with this sportsbook. I'm just a little surprised to see this from Stake.
I agree.
You're opening yourself up to an even bigger headache with these stipulations.
#3 is all you need
in 2016, the allegations were pressed by dems after the official result was promulgated, they questioned the election integrity later.
In 2016 the media declared Trump the projected winner and Clinton conceded almost immediately. That's completely different than the House exercising the constitutional right to impeach.
This year, bad things are happening and they don't cooperate to see if there isintegrity or not,
No partisans need to cooperate to see if there's integrity or not, in fact it would only make it worse if they did. There are election officials and procedures already in place and there's a judicial branch to determine if the law was broken and how to remedy the situation if so.Yeah I agree the language is not ideal, and for example voter fraud does not need to be proven for it to be a Trump win. Originally the post said that an example scenario would look something like this and it was edited by our sports team to say "all of the following" to basically give them a right of refusal over some weird situations that could arise. We will discuss internally and see if we can loosen it up a bit. As I mentioned towards the end we would be using "logic and reasonability" to determine the outcome so I could not imagine a scenario where trump won electoral college and we wouldn't pay out. That being said in my opinion it is hyper unlikely that trump will hit 270 electoral college votes without a re-vote or something major happening but stranger things have happened.
UPDATE: I am happy to say that I have had a chat with the team and we removed the voter fraud/revote aspects of the terms and conditions to make it more straight forward. All of that pretty much went without saying though we would have paid out regardless. https://news.stake.com/us-election-2020-statement/
Thanks for the fix, I think previously in the thread was also addressed that Biden doesn't have to concede because Trump has not conceded yet, the only necessary requirement is 270 EC