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Re: Criminals in Default Trust?
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Moniro
on 15/10/2017, 04:56:57 UTC
No, that's why Quickseller was booted.  Any other questions?

Personally, I completely agree. In my opinion criminals should definitely not have a place in Default Trust.
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Criminals in Default Trust?
by
Moniro
on 15/10/2017, 04:53:31 UTC
Should debunked criminals such as scammers/extortionists etc. be allowed to have a place in Bitcointalk's Default Trust, thereby allowing them to arbitrarily add red negative trust to users they dislike or disagree with?

Should criminals be removed from Default Trust?
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 15/10/2017, 04:40:42 UTC
Your opinion is even more biased and more irrelevant, since this is a dead issue.  But you go ahead and keep waiting with whatever trap you're hoping to spring.  I'm telling you why you're not getting an answer, but you're so busy beating this dead horse that you won't listen to reason.  Quickseller.

This is nothing more than your biased personal opinion. I repeat, extortion is a serious crime and far from a dead horse issue.

Your argument is completely worthless as one particular person (whoever that may be) posting about a crime does not in any way make the crime committed by the other person less severe or irrelevant. This logic of yours is entirely flawed.

Again, gibberish is not required. Lauda can speak for himself and there is a simple question to answer.

Every post that does not answer the above question/s is obvious distraction from the substance.
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 15/10/2017, 04:31:49 UTC
this dead horse issue
Extortion is a serious crime and far from a dead horse issue.

stupid, loaded question anyway

Your biased opinion is irrelevant. I suppose Lauda can speak for himself.

Are extortionists/criminals not hurting the forum?
Should extortionists/criminals be included in Default Trust?
Should criminals have the right to play the forum police here?
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Re: Lauda gave negative feedback for no valid reason
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Moniro
on 15/10/2017, 04:22:30 UTC
LaudaM continues to give negative feedback despite having been caught in an illegal extortion crime.

To nail it, Lauda is a known criminal hypocritically tagging other users he dislikes.

Furthermore Lauda fails to defend himself, blatantly ignoring the question whether extortionists/criminals are hurting the forum or not. Keeping criminals included in Bitcointalk's Default Trust is extremely damaging to the community indeed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2244644.msg22898077#msg22898077
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 12/10/2017, 09:27:16 UTC
Reminder:
Allowing stuff like this is just damaging for everyone [...] and ultimately the forum (which is already in a bad state)
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The above poster (LAUDA) is a good example of people that continue to be here despite having been caught in illegal schemes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

Tell us: extortionists/criminals do NOT hurt the forum? What right does a criminal have to play the police here? Make sure to post a valid reply.

You are a proven criminal and a brazen hypocrite for trying to play the forum police. So far you have not been able to make a single valid argument justifying your position.

Answer the above bolded question. For your instance it's a simple no/yes question and does not demand any further gibberish.

4 days have passed - no reply.  Ignoring the substance will not work.
Reminder: Tell us, extortionists/criminals do NOT hurt the forum? Should criminals have the right to play the forum police here? Answer the above bolded question. It's a yes/no question.

To those who're new: LaudaM was caught in an extortionist crime which is illegal both in his birth country Croatia as well as in Austria where he currently lives. At the same time Lauda's profile remains in Bitcointalk's Default Trust, allowing a criminal to blemish other users profiles. There has not been any solid argument as to why LaudaM should not be removed from default trust and tagged appropriately like any other criminal.

Edit: 1 week has passed
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
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Moniro
on 08/10/2017, 06:51:23 UTC
LaudaM, are a proven extortionist criminal.
Nope. That's a continued lie [...]
Wrong. You are lying again.

Above all, there is a large difference between a sting operation and an extortionist. Explain this to me: Why would Lauda spend so much time finding scammers and negging them if she/ he could in fact join them and make money behind closed doors (secretly is what I mean). Also, why does Lauda often bust/ help bust scam ICOs with cryptodevil if, once again, he or she could join in on the ICO and make money off them by not exposing them, essentially blackmailing them.
None of that matters, nor does the shill care about anyone actually engaging in any scammy/shady actions or similar. That's what happens when you end up on the wrong end of negative ratings. Roll Eyes

I don't see that happening, and I do believe Lauda's 'extortion attempt'
was a sting operation.  You either believe it or you don't.  Lauda's good works

outweigh that little lapse of good judgement.
I think that it is fair to say that a number of people trust me on a much higher level than ever before.

However, regarding the logic of the above statement.  Quickseller spent a lot of
time scam busting....and then he pulled his escrow scam on a bunch of unwitting
victims who thought they were purchasing an escrow service with an independent
third party.  You know, a real escrow.  As in, a 3-sided transaction.  So just
because someone tries to bust scammers doesn't mean that person is not or would
not become one.  You never know.

Quickseller is a prime example of someone who deceived the public and who showed his true colors after his crimes were exposed.

As seen here once again it's typical behavior of Lauda not to directly reply to the substance at all and trying to deceive by attacking others.

On another note it does not matter whether 'a number of people trust you (sic) on a much higher level than ever before', as criminals too have friends and partners who may trust them. This argument, again, is completely worthless.

Let's repeat it over and over again until you get it:


Gibberish quoted. Let us know when you are back to the substance. You cannot escape.

Again, attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself:

you're a butthurt troll

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Allowing stuff like this is just damaging for everyone [...] and ultimately the forum (which is already in a bad state)
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The above poster (LAUDA) is a good example of people that continue to be here despite having been caught in illegal schemes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

Tell us: extortionists/criminals do NOT hurt the forum? What right does a criminal have to play the police here? Make sure to post a valid reply.[/size]

You are a proven criminal and a brazen hypocrite for trying to play the forum police. So far you have not been able to make a single valid argument justifying your position.

Answer the above bolded question. For your instance it's a simple no/yes question and does not demand any further gibberish.


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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 21:48:09 UTC
Thank you for proving that you are a liar too.
Nope.

You need help? Sure: argumentum ad hominem, is 'where an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself':
For this to be true, you'd need to have: a) An argument. b) Something worth rebutting. c) (My) Intent to to do so. Neither one is the case, especially not a and b. Smiley

There is no reason to answer this way unless desperately trying to distract from the actual substance.
To distract from the fact that you're a butthurt troll that needs to be banned? Now why would I want to do that? Shocked

Gibberish quoted. Let us know when you are back to the substance.

Again, attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself:
you're a butthurt troll

Reminder:
Allowing stuff like this is just damaging for everyone [...] and ultimately the forum (which is already in a bad state)
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The above poster (LAUDA) is a good example of people that continue to be here despite having been caught in illegal schemes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

Tell us: extortionists/criminals do NOT hurt the forum? What right does a criminal have to play the police here? Make sure to post a valid reply.
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 21:43:33 UTC
Classic argumentum ad hominem.
There is no ad hominem here.

Thank you for proving that you are a liar too.

You need help? Sure: argumentum ad hominem, is 'where an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself':

Education doesn't seem to be one of your strong features.
[...] shows your lack of education and your bullshit. Keep drinking the kool-aid, but that ain't gonna help you get a better degree than high school.
Maybe it is time to leave that basement and get a life? Roll Eyes

There is no reason to answer this way unless desperately trying to distract from the actual substance.
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
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Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 20:05:53 UTC
Whether you are a chronic or habitual offender is of little importance.
Stating that there's almost no difference between single time criminal offender and a chronic just shows your lack of education and your bullshit. Keep drinking the kool-aid, but that ain't gonna help you get a better degree than high school. Cheesy

Classic argumentum ad hominem. Playing stupid on purpose, are we?

It is indeed of little importance whether you are a habitual or chronic criminal as the point is that you, 'LaudaM', are a proven extortionist (criminal). What sort of offender is important regarding your prosecution only, not regarding the issue or argument.
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 10:43:28 UTC
He/she/they don't care about a well known and chronic criminal such as Quickseller yet try to play the moral/legal card here. Obviously they have no standing ground whatsoever considering their absurd and outright pathetic bias.
As a known extortionist you sure have a big mouth. Have you not yet realized the very same applies to you?
It doesn't even remotely apply to me. Learn the definition of chronic offender. Education doesn't seem to be one of your strong features.
The point is that you are trying to play the 'moral/legal card' (as stated countlessly by yourself) despite being a known extortionist = criminal. Whether you are a chronic or habitual offender is of little importance. Comments like these do not help your case but make it worse.

Why should or shouldn't I tell you anything for free?
If you claim there is fake/false information it is your job to prove it wrong. Anything else is gibberish.

Honestly, mate if you're so mad about this  Lauda/TMAN/minifrij extortion attempt, you might as well just go find a couple of lawyers and sue them. This fact your complaining on a forum about something about this just shows how it is completely false.
Thank you for this suggestion. Rest assured there are more than one persons working on preparing the lawsuit indeed.

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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 10:29:59 UTC
Please refer me to false information.
If I were to tell you everything that was wrong, then you'd might actually get closer to finding out where I am but aTriz got it pretty much figured out. Then again, Mars is pretty big. Cheesy
This reply is completely worthless. First you claim that there is false information and immediately after you claim that you can not say what is false or what is true.

He/she/they don't care about a well known and chronic criminal such as Quickseller yet try to play the moral/legal card here. Obviously they have no standing ground whatsoever considering their absurd and outright pathetic bias.
As a known extortionist you sure have a big mouth. Have you not yet realized the very same applies to you?
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 10:23:01 UTC
As mentioned bad cases of trolls are dealt with by the moderators of this forum and I have seen it happening efficiently.
Ironically, you prove this not to be the case given that you're a troll derailing this thread with fake information about something that isn't even relevant. Roll Eyes
* Lauda takes a sip of Marsian wine.
Please refer me to false information.

I think Lauda actually lives on Mars, wouldn't you agree Lauda?
In light of facts it is not important what you think.

That extortion attempt was blown heavily out of proportion by Quickseller and his legion of alt accounts.
This is your personal opinion and not a fact.

So you're admitting to a knowing that a known scammer reported someone? Doesn't that seem a bit incorrect to you?
I do not fully understand your sentence. I was simply proving that your argument is invalid.
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
by
Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 10:15:41 UTC
Handling trolling will be taken on a case by case basis. Trizgayboy is proxy banned and I nuked the other two since they're obviously just throwaway troll accounts of butthurt shitposters who you rejected.
The forum should be doing that more often IMO. Allowing stuff like this is just damaging for everyone, the people who are being bullied, the users, the services and ultimately the forum (which is already in a bad state).

@OP don't expect 'butthurt people/trolls' to get banned if you have full-blown criminals on this site who are not banned yet. The above poster (LAUDA) is a good example of people that continue to be here despite having been caught in illegal schemes: Lauda/TMAN/minifrij extortion attempt . Given the fact that this is a serious crime, trolls are probably the least to worry about.

You know your argument is over when you use quickseller to prove a point.

Nuff said.

Your argument is invalid.

Just because person X posts about crime Y doesn't make crime Y any less severe. The extortion happened and it is illegal in both Austria (where Lauda lives now) as well as in Croatia (where he was born).  If/when convicted jail time is the consequence. Quickseller or any other scammer/defrauder posting about it doesn't change the hard facts in the slightest.

As mentioned bad cases of trolls are dealt with by the moderators of this forum and I have seen it happening efficiently. Scammers, however, are not banned.
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Re: Banning Butthurt People/ Trolls
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Moniro
on 07/10/2017, 10:09:21 UTC
Handling trolling will be taken on a case by case basis. Trizgayboy is proxy banned and I nuked the other two since they're obviously just throwaway troll accounts of butthurt shitposters who you rejected.
The forum should be doing that more often IMO. Allowing stuff like this is just damaging for everyone, the people who are being bullied, the users, the services and ultimately the forum (which is already in a bad state).

@OP don't expect 'butthurt people/trolls' to get banned if you have full-blown criminals on this site who are not banned yet. The above poster (LAUDA) is a good example of people that continue to be here despite having been caught in illegal schemes: Lauda/TMAN/minifrij extortion attempt . Given the fact that this is a serious crime, trolls are probably the least to worry about.
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Re: Lauda blemishing Theymos' forums
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Moniro
on 26/09/2017, 17:13:53 UTC
Lauda didn't study pharmacy at a US pharmacy school and have an alt whose username would imply something to that effect?   Tell me if you're sure, now. We wouldn't want unfounded claims being bandied about.

I have a very hard time believing these aren't quickseller's alts. People don't come here cor the first time and jump right into some drama that they just read about.  It just doesn't happen that way.  Not even in QS's extremely warped reality.
Shame on you for posting this unrelated signature spam bullshit in Meta.
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Re: Lauda blemishing Theymos' forums
by
Moniro
on 26/09/2017, 10:21:01 UTC
Is it just me or does anyone else think Quickseller is using two other alts including the OP?
~BCX~
i don't know about the other two alts but if you think they're connected to me (OP) you're wrong af

obviousl a lot more people would post here if it weren't for lauda's hardcore trust abuse. Cause the moment you post about his wrongdoing he will try to silence you, just like a fat bitch would try to silence you if you point out the amount of calories in her sandwich, simply because she is fat, you see.

an extortionist going around as the trust police, ROFL! Lauda is determined to get into serious legal trouble.

Anyway boys, he's hiding in Austria (where he went to study Medicine) but the last pm I got mentioned that he dropped out to do Bitcoin full time. May be that he's back in Croatia already. Can't hide anyway, will catch it. It's just a matter of a little time.
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Re: Lauda blemishing Theymos' forums
by
Moniro
on 23/09/2017, 10:31:09 UTC
haven't been tagged by them
hey really curious, why do you call him 'they' ?  multiple personality disorder ?

Congratulations.
Cheerz
Read the thread and you'll find that several people agreed I had no involvement and it was simple Quickseller trying to sling mud as I agree with most things Lauda does.
I suppose you'll be of the same ilk as him though, so that won't much matter.
ohhh so you do claim that you had no involvement in Lauda's illegal extortion crime?
Okay. I have no opinion on that.

I agree with most things Lauda does.
why is that? Sounds freaking sad.
I suppose you do not agree with the extortion crime though as that is illegal in your country England as well as in Laudas country Croatia. Correct ?

NOTE: I was just informed that Lauda lives in AUSTRIA as a university student (has CROATIAN citizenship though). Extortion is illegal in Austria too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail
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Re: Lauda blemishing Theymos' forums
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Moniro
on 23/09/2017, 10:17:18 UTC
am pretty sure theymos understands a whole lot more than you do because hes actually a nice guy .
How nice you are doesn't have any significance to how knowledeable you are, though theymos is by no means stupid.



You're not even achieving anything with this topic. You're just having some childish meltdown where you call Lauda names, probably because they tagged you for being involved with some scam ICO. Grow up.

oh, hoa hola, a Lauda supporter . thats a rare breed . yeahhh

hi 'Josh, a teenage web developer from the UK' thanks for your post here too . I remember your name ^^


you too have been involved in the LAUDA EXTORTION CRIME as a SCAMMER.

there you are indeed ! Lauda/TMAN/minifrij extortion attempt


ROTFL
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Lauda blemishing Theymos' forums
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Moniro
on 23/09/2017, 09:56:06 UTC
[...] something that theymos apparently does not understand .

am pretty sure theymos understands a whole lot more than you do because hes actually a nice guy .
because he has decent character. he even tolerates hyprocite extortionist scammer boys like Lauda on his forum.


Laudas standard reply to this is gonna be: you're a shill blabla, libel, scammer blabla, blabla, tag you blabla

Yes Lauda I don't give a fuck. haha who cares. I do give a fuck about utter frauds like you though .
You can go around and call out scammers bitching about it all day . doesn't make you less of an extortionist . doesn't make you less of a manbitch.


Lauda blackmailing and asking for a "cut to stay quiet"