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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
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OLE777Official
on 10/02/2023, 11:40:09 UTC
Hello, everyone just a few updates and some answers on some questions.

I haven't been responding as I am trying to convince Risk and Compliance team
to change their standard operating procedures when it comes to transparency.

All scam accusations, questions are compiled in a spreadsheet for them to see,
as again, I am trying to convince them to change the way they disclose information
to users/players.

I have handled NFT communities before, I know that's far from online casinos but,
my point is. Those projects I've handled weren't running smoothly in the beginning
and transparency was something we were always for and that got us users trusting the project.

I am pro-transparency. And to answer a question here, yes. I am part of the internal team of OLE7.IO

Someone here also asked, why is the CS team the one disclosing information. The process if I am not mistaken is like this.

1. Risk/Compliance team sees a weird activity on your account = banned
2. CS Receives email or chat complaint from the user who was banned.
3. I see that complaint here in this forum, I ask CS.
4. CS Provides information, limited information given by risk/compliance team.
5. I try to convince Risk/Compliance team to disclose proof and exact reasons why the account was banned, they wouldn't.

So it's myself and CS team that is short on transparent information as to why an account was blocked/banned
specifically or in full detail. Hence the reason why we are only allowed to say these..

-Multiple accounts
-Illegal Arbitrage Betting
-Illegal Bonus Hunting
-Cross Betting

For Poika5's questions

I do not have an answer to question #1 yet.

But I do for questions 2 to 4.

"2. When you confiscate somebody's money, where does it exactly go? Do you give it back to the bookmaker?
(All the customers got banned when they tried to withdraw from your platform, so the money ended up there)
-This goes to our bookmakers

"3. One of your bookmakers(Pinnacle) is famously arbitrage friendly, so is arbitrage betting only forbidden on IM Sports platform?"
-Most of the users that have been banned were playing under IM bets.

4. "Why doesn't your TOS say anything about arbitrage betting.
https://ole7.io/en/#/account/Terms"
-Honestly I personally have not memorized our TOS though on the very last part it does mention
Arbitration Rules of the London Court of International Arbitration, I am not sure if that is relevant.

Lastly for spyrosc200

"If you really want to help, please don't come back with general statements for arbitrage betting and/or syndicate betting and all that stuff that you know in advance that they are just lies and joke explanations."

Sadly they won't disclose further information but I am still working on convincing them about it, but yes. Your account was labelled under arbitrage/syndicate betting.
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Re: OLE7.IO scammed me 11700 USD in bitcoins without reasoning!
by
OLE777Official
on 06/02/2023, 06:18:26 UTC
I'm just giving the community a heads-up because I've been scammed 0.4946 Bitcoin (around 11700 USD) from Ole7.io.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3518507

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422931.0

Amount Scammed: 0.4946 Bitcoin / 11700 USD
Payment Method: Bitcoins

The story from the beginning:

Have opened account with Ole7.io at October 28th 2022, before they even joined bitcointalk community. They are operated under Ole Group International B.V. which also operates VODDS broker that are considered trusted agents so nothing looked suspicious on first view.

Have deposited dozen of times in this period without any issues.
Proof 1: https://imgur.com/a/lMr8ss1
Proof 2: https://imgur.com/a/q4jHpfm

Have also withdrawn successfully dozen of times as well, with my last successful withdrawal of 0.20 bitcoin at 25 January 2023:
Proof 1: https://imgur.com/a/ddHyTLI
Proof 2: https://imgur.com/a/2qSGndb

All went smooth until yesterday.
After a really good run my balance reached 0.40 bitcoin, another 0.10 bitcoin were unsettled bets so overall my balance is 0.50 bitcoin.

Now looked what happened as I took screenshots of everything (I always do as  I am not a newbie)

I have first asked for a withdrawal of 0.25 bitcoin which was rejected

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/cm6jVXp

I though it was an error and tried to withdraw once again in the next minute. Now withdrawals are not permitted for my account:

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/ejHO8e6

I immediately went on live chat asking for explanations. I only get some nonsense general accusations about compliance issues (have in mind that they never asked for KYC, even if they did, I have no problems to provide any document requested):

Proof 1: https://imgur.com/a/Rke0v12
Proof 2: https://imgur.com/a/0mCH58L

A moment later, they removed all the balance from my account, which turned into zero!
Proof 1:  https://imgur.com/a/8IH0inj

Obviously I did nothing wrong, I don’t have multiaccounts, I am not arbing etc. I even took screenshots of a big sample of my bets for anyone to take a look:
Proof 1: https://imgur.com/a/kWHvqwp
Proof 2: https://imgur.com/a/SFpZn3F


Their customer support keep repeating same nonsense general accusation as their live chat representative:
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/ufIIhXL
 
To summarize, Ole7.io unfairly and without any justification confiscate around 12000 of usd!

P.S Have left a red flag for Ole7.io official representative that can be seen here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3518507;page=iflags


Hi, I have already read your concern and thank you for raising this.

Kindly send your OLE7.IO username as we are trying to look into this right now.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 06/02/2023, 06:02:25 UTC
Hello, everyone. (This message has also been copy pasted from this accusation thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5437837.0\)

Apologies for responding late in this thread.

I would like to explain beforehand that I am trying to manage this community with the best of my abilities.

But, I am also getting caught in between in regards to transparency. I do not make the decisions here.

I only cascade information that is given to me which is very limited.

Bitcointalk Username: Bachezy
OLE7.IO Username: didi123

Now for this accusation, I was told by the CS representative that you were caught with arbitrage and syndicate betting.

They have not provided further information.

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Another concern regarding deposits ( I have seen that the accusation thread says resolved but, let me explain what else happened).

Bitcointalk Username: pale_cutie
OLE7.IO Username: aj7647726

They have already credited your deposit but here are a few things that happened.

"He transferred the balance to another wallet first and from that wallet, he transferred to us.
Now the catch here was that the user was providing the receipt from the first transfer and not from the second transfer."

"Our vendor checked the transaction based on what member provide on his screenshot.
The wallet address in the screenshot he provided first is 0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206994597c13d831ec7 - which does not belong to us."

In a sense you quite mislead. Anyhow I am glad that it is all sorted out.

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spyrosc200 - please send me your OLE7.IO username. We'll look into this.

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Everyone, thank you for your patience in this thread and support in the scam accusations. Once again please take note that I am not the decision maker here.

As much as I want to be 101% transparent, the risk and compliance team have their SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) which I cannot change or alter. But I do hope they do in hopes to turn this reputation from negative to positive and be much more fair to everyone.

Apologies for replying late, as I also wait for updates regarding these issues.

Thank you.
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Re: OLE777 / Ole7.io Stole ~1100 USDT from my balance and banned me
by
OLE777Official
on 06/02/2023, 04:49:05 UTC
Hello, everyone.

Apologies for responding late in this thread.

I would like to explain beforehand that I am trying to manage this community with the best of my abilities.

But, I am also getting caught in between in regards to transparency. I do not make the decisions here.

I only cascade information that is given to me which is very limited.

Bitcointalk Username: Bachezy
OLE7.IO Username: didi123

Now for this accusation, I was told by the CS representative that you were caught with arbitrage and syndicate betting.

They have not provided further information.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 02/02/2023, 08:30:11 UTC
Hello, everyone.

I haven't provided an update for quite some time since I've been internally discussing each cases.

This is a discussion between me and a rep from our CS team, according to him and the Risk Team/Compliance Team.

"For Dorjan, it was a case of multiple accounts wherein another username is xudi59."

I asked the cases for these users

1. didi123
2. ferrumsc2
3. muster21

They did not disclose the issues but again, they may fall for some of these reasons.

1. Illegal Arbitrage Betting
2. Illegal Bonus Hunting
3. Cross Betting

Other Updates.

1. Evelynn - Blocked due to compliance issues.
2. pale_cutie - Please send me your OLE7.io username, as of the moment CS team said that the deposit still has not yet been received.
3. Zendini - Blocked due to compliance issues.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 30/01/2023, 10:03:18 UTC
Hello, everyone. Please take the time to read. I would like to address a few concerns here.
I've been through several departments such as finance, to try and retrieve the payments but, I was told decisions were final.
Next, I have also been to the Risk department to talk them out of appealing for the accounts.

As mentioned before these accounts may be banned due to some of the reasons;
-Multiple accounts
-Illegal Arbitrage Betting
-Illegal Bonus Hunting
-Cross Betting

OLE7.io usernames;

1. dorjan
2. didi123
3. ferrumsc2
4. muster21

I was told this exact message.

"We were informed by the platform provider these accounts involved with unlikely betting,
rest assure due diligence were taken into consideration prior to any action from our compliance team.

Next concern for pale_cutie

This is the exact message;

"Already investigated this, the user shared two screenshot(s) and in both of them,
Transaction ID(s) were different. Our payment team said that they didn't receive this deposit yet.
However, I will co-ordinate with them again and will update the user via email today itself."

Lastly for
OLE7.io username: evelynn
Bitcointalk username: evelynn96

Your case is currently being handled by the Risk Team/Management and is still under review.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 24/01/2023, 07:34:50 UTC
Hello everyone, a few updates here.

First, let me begin saying that I hope you had a good weekend.

Despite all the issues going on here, on a personal note I hope you did enjoy the weekend.

Issue #1. The websites.
I have spoken to the ITSD (IT Service Department) and I had to ask regarding these domains if these are ours.
ole777.io
ole777.in

This is what the IT rep exactly said. 'hi sir carlos mentioned domains above is not handle by our team.'

Which I will now conclude that is it not ours and may be a phishing website to steal funds or other personal information.
I tried accessing the website and it's nowhere near our website (ole7.io) UI/UX and website loading speed.

Now someone asked why didn't we report it, my answer honestly is I don't know. If no one has brought this up this website was just probably sitting there
scamming people but, now the IT department is on the move to report and best, take it down.

Next, ferrum. Thank you for sending the screenshot. I now have your username.

I am actually begging the compliance team to allow an appeal for the accounts, if not. I am trying to at least have funds back if it's not against the T&Cs.

There are no guarantees nor promises in this but, I will do what I can.

Once again I would like to say sorry for the bad beginnings in this thread and for the users who had a negative experience.

-Carlos

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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 20/01/2023, 04:52:55 UTC
Hello, everyone.

A few updates here.

I am still in contact with the internal team regarding these accounts.

Again, I want to be transparent. But, certain teams internally are very firm that they cannot disclose
every detail as to why the account got locked or banned.

So now I am trying to negotiate with them if ever they can give a chance for the users to appeal and
have a chance to defend themselves.

Next, for the image. That's not our website. Our website is https://ole7.io/en/#/main if
you click the URL I provided now and compare that screenshot with the "grabbed" image from a real estate person.
It's not our website.

Next, I am still waiting for Ferrum360's OLE7 ID so that I can also forward this to customer support team and compliance team.

Tomorrow is a Saturday.. the following is a Sunday please expect me to respond on a working day which is Monday.

Once again, I am also caught in the middle of all of this, please take note that I am trying to help I myself want to be transparent.
But, I cannot do anything if the decision is final especially coming from compliance team, risk team and other teams involved.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 17/01/2023, 08:38:39 UTC
Hello, everyone.

It's Carlos. I'm here to provide another update.

Please take note that my last response was on the 13th of January.

The next days were both a Saturday and Sunday which is my day off, so if you are expecting any updates nor response from weekends, it's likely not to happen.

Currently there are 4 complaints.

-dorjan (OLE7 ID)
-didi123 (OLE7 ID)
-muster21 (OLE7 ID)
-Ferum360 (Bitcointalk Username)

For the three accounts, I have already been told the reasons why the account was banned, although the customer support team and compliance team has told me that
they do not disclose the exact reasons why accounts get banned or locked. However some illegal actions are: Multiple accounts, Illegal Arbitrage betting etc.

For Ferrum360, I believe I sent a DM but if you have not received it, please DM me your OLE7 ID so I can also investigate what has happened.

Apologies for the late response, and being inactive. Please do not think I myself or this platform is running away from these concerns, I have been firm with my team that I will not leave this forum and be transparent with the best of my abilities.

I just want to finish this, and start promoting once all these concerns are cleared and have been explained.

Thank you and apologies for the late response.

-Carlos
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 12/01/2023, 10:08:50 UTC
Hello, everyone!

It's Carlos.

Thank you so much for all your comments in this thread. I just want to give a few updates and this will be very transparent.

To begin with.

1. There are current users who are claiming to be banned or being scammed by our website (Ole7.io)
These users are
-Ptolemy
-ferrum360
-muster21

What we have done here is that I have forwarded these concerns along with your specific concerns, screenshots, and your comment in this thread internally. Our team is currently investigation this issue if proven correct.

I have also coordinated with one of the moderators here to check on your accounts to see if you are trying to give a bad reputation on your names as you are 'newbies'. More updates will be provided as we go along with the investigation.

2. As some of the users here have called out shills in other threads. We are also aware of that.

What we have done here is to educate these people as they have executed this campaign in the very wrong manner, we are also considering to stop our collaboration with them as this has also backfired to us in a bad way. We really mean no harm here.

Lastly. I have also received a message here in interests to promote OLE777 by bounty campaigns and other methods of campaigns. To those who are interested please send a direct message and I will be willing to know more about your expertise.

For now these are all the updates I have, if I have missed anything I apologize but, I will check this thread for another sweep to recognize your suggestions, pain points. I want to coordinate with all of you.

Carlos.

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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 04/01/2023, 04:15:00 UTC
Never make a deposit on this site
I was their client for 4 months. At the beginning I lost a lot of deposits and I never had any problems with them.
But things changed when I started getting profits.
Suddenly, my account was blocked and about 8,000 dollars was unable to withdraw

After I sent several emails, Support finally gave an answer, but it has nothing to do with logic because I didn't break a single rule.
They simply stole and suspended my account!

Do you have any screenshots with your emails and conversation with our customer support? I can help you about it.

Please send the screenshots so that we can also share it in this thread, it's always easy and claim to say that we "blocked" "unable to withdraw".
but at least support it with proof.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 03/01/2023, 09:22:28 UTC
Hello everyone, first and foremost. Happy New Year!

I hope individually that you have a healthy and prosperous year with full of opportunities.

I want to address a few concerns here. Such as shilling, user blocked without reason and myself being online on the 27th.

1. We have hired an agency to promote our brand in different forums and also social media channels but, they have not executed this the proper way.
I am aware that they are around and started this just recently on forums. But again, this is not how we planned it to be.

2. For user 'ferrum360' I highly suggest that you do a follow up via customer support on our website, they are open 24/7.
Next, you can also DM me your proof that you have been ignored through Telegram and WhatsApp or you can just share your username (Both Telegram & Whatsapp). I will also share the screenshots here for transparency.

3. I went online on the 27th to check on this forum for any private messages, new comments but, I didn't have the time to respond, why? It's December 27, 2022.
I was on a holiday leave. I wanted to work but, I was also telling myself that this is the only a few days for me to rest. And I went with that choice. Apologies to all those who have been ignored in this thread.

I will scan through it and see if there are any more unanswered questions.

Please feel free to reach out via thread or private message if you need more assistance regarding your account.

Thank you.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 12/12/2022, 08:03:40 UTC
Hello, I hope everyone is doing great.

For concerns with KYC you may read more about our Privacy and Policy here.

https://ole7.io/en/#/account/Privacy-Policy
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 12/12/2022, 08:00:54 UTC
As for the KYC - We do NOT have that at OLE777.
Users are required to enter their phone number, date of birth, address in the profile page. Moreover, there is KYC requirement rules in the terms of your casino. Therefore, you shouldn't say that OLE777 is KYC free casino.

KYC might be required upon registration, but if they don't have a gaming license, why the need for identity verification?
Does OLE777 accept deposits and withdrawals in fiat, and if you do, how does it work without a gambling license?
OLE777 doesn't request for personal details during registration, but we need to write some personal information on the profile page of our account. They have gambling license (Ole Group International B.V.) from Curacao operator. They support deposits in BTC, ETH and some other stable coin. The UI of OLE7 casino (OLE777) is completely same as Bk8 casino.

Hello, Mahdirakib

I believe you are referring to the profile page which we do not require to be honest and if that is the definition of KYC that is too light.

A KYC would mostly require a selfie or a selfie with your valid ID. Plus other documents like utility bill which happens on Crypto casinos and we do not require those.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 12/12/2022, 07:58:24 UTC
<snip>
How long is OLE777 operating since it was first launched?
Upon navigating through your website, I can say that overall, you have a good UI design. I'm just a bit concerned about too much plain text sentences on your main page. I would suggest you to redesign that.
Also, the mute/unmute button is not functional? Why put it there if not.

Hi, Eureka!

We began on 2010 focusing on fiat only but this year we started venturing using cryptocurrency.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 12/12/2022, 07:34:52 UTC
I do have a question. Why it do really give out this kind of alert from my AV when accessing those links provided on op?

This web page may contain dangerous content that can provide remote access to an infected device, leak sensitive data from the device or harm the targeted device.

Threat: JS/Chromex.Agent.BT trojan
So i cant really make out some checking since im hesitating on turning off my AV just for this.
~

Hello, Hamphser, apologies for the late revert.

To be honest with you this is the first time we have seen this kind of issue. And this screenshot may be from our website or not.

We also have checked internally with our team if there are any isolated cases like this from our players, so far this is the first.

I personally also have an AV for both my computer and internet browsing (Kaspersky) but, doesn't result to this.

If you have any more questions I'd be more than willing to assist you here or via DM or route you to our customer service team.
Dont know but it does really show up those kind of alerts.Aside from that warning above.It is really showing
again something like this.


I do really put up some doubts on trying out to access when my AV does like this.

Hello, Hampsher I would appreciate if you could send me the following details by personal message.

user account : 
location: 
game path:
game names: 
screenshot with URL.

I am keen to assist you further regarding this matter.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 09/12/2022, 02:55:13 UTC
Even though you have confirmed that your casino does not perform KYC on your members, if one day you need it, we hope you can notify us in advance through this update on your ANN because we need to know. We don't want it if, when we play later and can win big, suddenly we are asked to do KYC because we want to withdraw that big winning money.

I've seen your site and it's very attractive with a white background but I think it's too dazzling. Can you provide an option for dark mode as the background?

Now, you need to promote your casino site in these forums to get more members to play.

Hello, ethereumhunter!

Thank you, we will make sure that we will be announcing all of our website updates and other initiatives on all social media channels, email and forums.

Also for the dark mode, we like the idea! I have already pitched it thanks to you.
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 07/12/2022, 06:59:46 UTC
https://casinogurubg.com/obzor-ole777-casino
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Hello, LEVSKI7

Can you please confirm whether you gave us a BAD or GOOD review?

As per your message here, it says that you gave us a bad rating although when I have visited your review website it is a 7.5/10 which I believe is somewhat a good or "decent" review of our website overall.

Also I think it is not updated as we have deposit bonuses such as;

1. 100% Bonus for new user deposits playing Slots
2. 50% Bonus for new user deposits playing Baccarat
3. 100% First time deposit bonus for sportsbook.

If you would like to ask more questions please do not hesistate.

Thank you!
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 07/12/2022, 06:42:19 UTC
Hello, everyone!

It's Carlos again.

I will answer most of the unanswered questions with the best of my abilities.

I would like to all of you to know that I am the one who is currently managing this thread and I am in the Hong Kong time zone.

And I assume some of you are in a different time zone, so my response rate would vary due to different times we are in.

I hope that is something most of you can consider.

Thank you!
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Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos!
by
OLE777Official
on 07/12/2022, 06:39:51 UTC
Welcome in the forum OLE777 team , there are  many new platform that in competition for gambling and a complete site like yours is yes competent.

Any plans of extending your advertising here? there are lots of manager to Hire for the better result .

KYC mandatory is crypto gamblers enemy , so try to ask nothing in account creation or in small betting/withdrawal activities .

Hey, peter0425!

As of the moment we do not have any plans yet. Though if we are to advertise someday any help would be appreciated.

As for the KYC - We do NOT have that at OLE777.

Instead we only have a very basic account registration using manual registration and social logins in order for interested players to create an account with 2 to 3 clicks only.