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Re: Care sunt cele mai bune exchange-uri in timp real valabile in Romania?
Cel mai bun curs atat la vanzare cat si la cumparare gasesti acum la www.coinvertit.com. EUR si RON in si din BTC, LTC, BCH si DASH.
diferenta curs vinz cump 2,3%; cam multisor...adica atit pierzi la schimb; dar fee 0...hmmm aceleasi gogoritze peste tot unde schimba Romanii..Acestia mi se par interesanti, pt conturi euro pag fee https://globitex.com/fees.htm ; daca a incercat cineva poate ne spune . se pare ca au si moneda interna pt fee 0, ca binance BNB.
Oricum ca detinator de crypto ma simt aproape captiv pe crypto fara prea mari sperante sa gasim un exchange cit de cit OK, pacat de coinflux..
AM incercat sa fac virament bancar pe Changelly si am constatat ca ING ma blocheaza sa virez (de 3 ori) , motivind (jigodeste) ca eu sunt cel care greseste cind introduc datele de card !!!
bancile din Ro fac ce ii taie capul, si se pun stapini pe banii tai.
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There are many holidays and people traveling during the end of December and beginning of January. Respectfully, team members have been considerate and maintained constant contact with you from your first message. The team members have also provided you a legal contract to review and an effective solution to resolve your problem. With your cooperation, you will have your investment refund.
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Problem solved ! I hope the project will be a good one....
From 0x088a3f324613d079a8b0e2dab59ed6c1d9889844 address, only outgoing transactions on tokens(except service addresses). Maybe you need to send to another address? for example, 0xCba6eE74b7Ca65Bd0506cf21d62bDd7c71F86AD8. Did they give a specific address?
Yes got from them, the address first.Regarding smart contract have no ideea.Have you tried to send tokens to another wallet? Ie create yourself another wallet and send them there.
Do you think the smart contract is locked?The team announce/advertise a lot of great achievments, but one simple sending is not solved from one month...!? Hard to believe this.
It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.
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machinations, competitors, scammers !?
Not a tall ! when the team announce the delay of launching and to reimbourse the people who need go out, I take the decision to leave the project (and I'm free to do it !).But mean time I discovered that our wallets are stuck or frozen ! I wonder what can we do it if the token was launched ?They asked me to send their token back to initial address , but when I tried to do this (at least 4-5 times) the network return me failed transaction !
12 Jan 08:26-Failed to send 2..... OPEX to 0x088a3f324613d079a8b0e2dab59ed6c1d9889844-Failed-2...... OPEX
got the error on 04 till 12 Jan 2019; I assuming have no fault for this failed transaction, it is just a network feedback ! But I'm keept responsible for this and get no money back !
The team is not able to solve this situation since 15 December 2018 !!! Shall I believe all kind of advertising posted each week about opterium, or not !?
I draw 2 conclusions:
1-they don't intend to launch it !
2-they don't intend to reimbourse our money back !
How long shall we wait it ? SINE DIE ?
Mean time I see only unverified advertisement !
I usked the team of Opthereum about your problem. Here is the unswer:
The Optherium team has been in direct contact with you trying to find a solution for reimbursement. Our investor relations member, Alena Beck has answered every single one of your emails. Our C level member, Vadim Ivanenko has tried to reach you multiple times by phone over the last three days- You have not answered.
Our technical team is working hard to determine why you are having an error returning the OPEX tokens. Understandably, we can not issue investment refunds without receiving the OPEX tokens back first. Once the tokens are received, we will gladly issue the full refund of investment.
As we have stated in the emails, we ask you to be patient instead of sending us threats that you will spread lies and try to ruin our companys reputation on forums. Our community knows that we are a legitimate company that respects and values our relationships with all investors. Your case is being prioritized.
NO, The people must know all of this.
There is an interesting. The forum is a good place to effect the team of many projects. Now we will wait for a post from SLVM about resolving the problem.
Nothing solved till now.Just got threaten mails from a unknown guy Vadim Ivanenko, that I must stop posting on the internet or they will go "to international court because I damage the deal of the company" !
And I'm really "scared"
My opinion is that
they can not manage a simple payment,
or
they don't want to reimbourse the OUT clients ! Both are deceptive.
ps strange is that the guy try to contact me from a phone number from Ukraine !!!
Since December 15th it's not so long ago. I don't think it's time to draw conclusions.
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I draw 2 conclusions:
1-they don't intend to launch it !
2-they don't intend to reimbourse our money back !
How long shall we wait it ? SINE DIE ?
Mean time I see only unverified advertisement !
Here is list of some sources which mentioned Optherium. Coincidex, Cointelegraph, Crypto Potato, CCN and others:
🚀 https://www.ccn.com/optherium-is-the-bridge-between-the-traditional-economy-and-a-new-digital-economy/
🚀 https://cointelegraph.com/news/payments-four-times-faster-than-visa-network-fights-low-speeds-and-threat-of-lost-funds
🚀 https://cryptopotato.com/optherium-a-new-era-of-global-finance/
🚀 https://coincodex.com/article/2468/dynamic-biometrics-technology-by-optherium-labs/
🚀 https://www.livebitcoinnews.com/be-your-own-bank-vivuspay-is-just-the-first-taste-of-the-optherium-ecosystem/
🚀 https://www.ccn.com/optherium-is-the-bridge-between-the-traditional-economy-and-a-new-digital-economy/
🚀 https://cointelegraph.com/news/payments-four-times-faster-than-visa-network-fights-low-speeds-and-threat-of-lost-funds
🚀 https://cryptopotato.com/optherium-a-new-era-of-global-finance/
🚀 https://coincodex.com/article/2468/dynamic-biometrics-technology-by-optherium-labs/
🚀 https://www.livebitcoinnews.com/be-your-own-bank-vivuspay-is-just-the-first-taste-of-the-optherium-ecosystem/
A lot of promotion in very serious and expensive media resources
I ask my money back since 15 December 2018, till now I got no money, only lousy excuses, so it seems they have no money anymore for investors !!!
If they are not able to pay back since one month one small amount is certainly that they ARE SCAMMERS !!!
All their posts are fake advertising , I got no evidence that they do this, in real !!! They reffuse to lance the coin, promise to reimbourse the investors who give up, but in real they don't want to reimbourse the investors, it seems that they spent already the investors money.If not they must prove this public.
Re: Va invit sa ajutam cateva sute de persoane sa nu isi piarda banii !!!
Este o persoana COSTI MATEI care sta in Spania si care detine canalul de youtube "Bani pe net - Afaceri reale"
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este mai mult decit evident ca nimeni nu da pe gratis ceva; l-am vazut demult pe net pe acest "id...t" si credeam ca oamenii nu se incinta la cistiguri aiurea.......
Warm Holiday wishes from our Chief Software Arhitect Evgeniy Nikishov
Community, this holiday season I want to wish you to be happy, healthy and inspired. We are preparing a lot of fantastic technologies and securing many great partnerships in the upcoming year!
May your holiday season be filled with cheer, fun and magic!✨
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HI SANTA !Community, this holiday season I want to wish you to be happy, healthy and inspired. We are preparing a lot of fantastic technologies and securing many great partnerships in the upcoming year!
May your holiday season be filled with cheer, fun and magic!✨
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I only need my money back, since half month I request this, but it seems no one care about !
SO I DON'T TRUST ANYMORE ON THOSE PEOPLE !!!
read my mails to alena:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:06 AM Alena Beck <alena@optherium.com> wrote:
Hi *,
Thank you for reaching out about your request. We are processing your return. You can expect to receive an update soon.
Kind regards,
Alena Beck
On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 4:30 AM ..... wrote:
Hi
I can not wait till opterium will be released, so I want to have my
money back !
regards
Piata BTC este foarte divizata. Orderbook-ul exchange-urilor mai jos de top 20 este foarte "subtire". Oricine pune la vanzare sau cumpara cantitati insemnate "misca" piata pentru ca nu exista vanzator sau cumparator in momentul respectiv.
oFF -TOPICAm deschis un cont la voi, dupa ce coinflux au cazut in scandalul din USA; sper ca voi veti fi mai atenti cu cei care deschid conturi de crypto, si nu permiteti hackerilor sa isi scoata banii pe platforma voastra...
I personally want to retire from this project, but my money is keept ! I already wrote to be reimborse, but ONLY after I was insistent, I got one mail that perhaps on January I get my money back.So take care....The market is recovered , but I see no move ! I see only meeting and how they spend money...
It often happens that such projects publish news about various meetings/conferences. How do you understand that there is "no move"? What alerted you?Yes, they do not waste time. Good. Even better, the market begins to give hope. If the BTC price hit +6K, then a good time will come for the promotion and active work of the project.
I personally want to retire from this project, but my money is keept ! I already wrote to be reimborse, but ONLY after I was insistent, I got one mail that perhaps on January I get my money back.So take care....The market is recovered , but I see no move ! I see only meeting and how they spend money...This is in some how one generic announcement.Till when is delayed ?! "sine die" in this bear market people are very anxious on such generic answers !!!
Buna. E posibil si destul de usor sa retragi banii in FIAT dupa ce vinzi cryptomonezile. Si nu are importanta ca e 1 BTC sau 100... Se face la fel operatiunea, dar de obicei sunt aplicabile niste comisioane. Si cel mai bine ar fi daca faci trade pe o platforma de incredere cum ar fi platforma Kraken, bitstamp sau cryptocoin pro. Cei mai operativi intru retragere mi s-au parut cryptocoin pro, iar la retragere in FIAT ti se retine 1% din suma detinuta in criptomonezi. Succes!
Multumim pt info, eu pina acum am lucrat cu coinflux, comisionul la schimb crypto/fiat este de 1,35%, fata de cota bursiera, nu mi-a parut rau de diferenta 1 vs 1,35% avind in vedere ca au support in limba Romana, sunt deosebit de activi in cazul in care ai vre-o problema.Sunt convins ca pe masura ce vor avea mai multi clienti vor mai diminua comisionul...sau cel putin sper ca va fi asa.pacat ca bancile obtuze din Ro i-au obligat sa isi mute conturile in extern ![/quote]
Cardul Wirex este un card bancar digital deci daca ai de ex. la brd un card in euro si vrei sa scoti lei poti la o rata de exchange, asa este si la wirex - ai btc in cont de ex si scoti lei la o rata de exchange.
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Asta am remarcat, problema este ca se cam plinge lumea ca anumite tranzactii de trimetere fiat in cont wirex, nu prea apar la destinatar....cel putin ciudat este ca imobilul in care au declarat biroul(sediul) e cam casuta postala...am prostul obicei (de a citi inainte de incredintare fonduri) comentariile negative !
Poate ne informezi in detaliu ce inseamna pct 4. *Schimbul din crypto in fiat se face aproape instant, costurile sunt destul de mici
din ce am observat pe ATM sunt rate de schimb destul de mari ...eu inteleg ca un ATM initial costa mult dar...daca sunt promovate din start pe costuri mari de schimb nu stiu cit de multi vor apela la un ATM.
*wirex, cred ca inainte de a deschide un cont si a credita contul cu sume mari nu e rau sa consultam si Trustpilot ( clients review); dupa consultare am remarcat un lucru cel putin ciudat, la comentarii pozitive se grabesc sa raspunda , dar pe comentarii negative, (am vazut si reclamatii de 1000$); nu prea se sinchisesc sa raspunda...concluzia o trage fiecare !
din ce am observat pe ATM sunt rate de schimb destul de mari ...eu inteleg ca un ATM initial costa mult dar...daca sunt promovate din start pe costuri mari de schimb nu stiu cit de multi vor apela la un ATM.
*wirex, cred ca inainte de a deschide un cont si a credita contul cu sume mari nu e rau sa consultam si Trustpilot ( clients review); dupa consultare am remarcat un lucru cel putin ciudat, la comentarii pozitive se grabesc sa raspunda , dar pe comentarii negative, (am vazut si reclamatii de 1000$); nu prea se sinchisesc sa raspunda...concluzia o trage fiecare !
Dupa ce am citit ...................
Avem Bitmain impotriva noastra (noi ne chinuim din ce in ce mai mult sa minam, iar ei doar castiga bani). Avem bancile impotriva noastra (daca te prind ca tranzactionezi Bitcoin iti inchid contul). Avem magnatii impotriva noastra (vezi ce scot pe gura Bill Gates sau Warren Buffet). Avem niste conglomerate cu bani impotriva noastra (vezi FUD, vezi ce se intampla la casele de schimb).
Deci da, ne trebuie un aliat care sa le poata pune pumnul in gura la toti astia. Iar singurul aliat pe care il vad este o legislatie/reglamentare corecta.
Eu in naivitatea mea ma gindeam ca din cei care au debarcat din piata (profesionisti) sa formeze o asociatie non-profit (platita de cei ce fac trading) care sa actioneze in prima faza ca un ghid Michelin pe piata si sa fie agreeate de cei ce fac minig, ,exchange, exchanger.Avem Bitmain impotriva noastra (noi ne chinuim din ce in ce mai mult sa minam, iar ei doar castiga bani). Avem bancile impotriva noastra (daca te prind ca tranzactionezi Bitcoin iti inchid contul). Avem magnatii impotriva noastra (vezi ce scot pe gura Bill Gates sau Warren Buffet). Avem niste conglomerate cu bani impotriva noastra (vezi FUD, vezi ce se intampla la casele de schimb).
Deci da, ne trebuie un aliat care sa le poata pune pumnul in gura la toti astia. Iar singurul aliat pe care il vad este o legislatie/reglamentare corecta.
Daca merge; in faza 2 ne facem propria noastra constitutie, cine ramine pe afara cred ca va fi cam ocolit de clientii mici, pt ca pina la urma bursele, minig-ul etc fac adevaratii bani de pe urma celor mici nu de pe urma balenelor care ataca odata si bine (nepunind la socoteala ca o moneda ar putea fi prabusita pe vecie)
Eu sunt sceptic in interventia statului la arbitraj, odata acordata, cred ca bursele traditionale vor ramine fara oitze...pe de alta parte cred ca cei (blindati de bani eg Gates sau Buffet au pus ei si niste bani pe crypto, dar se trag pe strampi, poate chiar ei sunt in spatele loviturilor....)
Pentru cumparare bitcoin/altcoins ( ethereum, litecoin si bitcoin cash ) puteti folosi unul din atm urile noastre cu cel mai mic comision, transferul fiind instant pe wallet. Pentru vanzare la fel puteti retrage numerar la unu din atm urile noastre din Bucuresti ( non stop ), Alexandria si Constanta. Avem cele mai mici comisioane la cumparare si retragere de numerar. In curand vom lansa si platforma de tranzactionare si exchange cu comisioane 0 la retragere si depunere crypto/numerar.
Ne puteti vizita online pe www.bitmahavi.com sau un simplu search pe google atm bitmahavi.
Am trecut pe acolo azi; 1BTC = 6,617 $ la voi iar pe coinmarket=6,280 $Ne puteti vizita online pe www.bitmahavi.com sau un simplu search pe google atm bitmahavi.
in rest judecati voi, ca pe mine m-a lasat fara cuvinte,....si cu Libresse intre picioare !
Si ca sa nu fie offtopic, SEPA este doar pt cetatenii EU mai di pi la centru, bancile romanesti inca ne jefuiesc la greu sub privirile blajine ale lui nea' Isarescul.
SWIFT nu are de-a face cu sepa este invocat la misto pt a fi cit mai balmajita fraudarea clientilor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0bjhDQENJ4
o mica discutie despre intentiile Goldman Sachs. minutul 9.37
Mda , crypto le cam ia caimacul din piata....deci nu vom sti niciodata daca a fost sau nu fake news, se pare ca si piata asta de crypto-news are latrinele ei !Bine ca s-au mai potolit spiritele, eu oricum am cumparat BTC, nu puteam sa ratez ocazia...asa ca depinde cum vezi paharul...Am dat bookmARK pt GOANA DUPA BITCOIN.o mica discutie despre intentiile Goldman Sachs. minutul 9.37