Then how can you justify merit jerker? Obviously they are alt farm account that is done in legal way through merit system.

Applying this will just remove the old farm account which now few because they are already struggling to get merit while you are welcoming this new blood merit jerker which is the new gen alt farmer.

Maybe start cleaning first this merit jerker issue that is rampant on local board such as Nigeria, Indonesia and many more local that has high merit circulation?

The suggestion will not affect inactive members because it’s based on post to merit ratio. The OP is suggesting a de rank if user reach a certain post count that doesn’t get merit.

Affected user are those posting on board that has less merit distribution such as altcoin board, gambling board and other local board that has no merit source/low merit circulation.

We all know that Bitcoin technical, WO and few local board with huge number of merit source have the highest merit circulation. It will purge those user that is posting outside this board.

No offense but we have already an ongoing issue about merit circle jerker that farming merits on spam thread, WO and local merit thread.

Your suggestion is pro merit jerker and will remove the natural poster that doesn’t have any good knowledge on the board which merit is heavily distributed. Your suggestion is feasible if merit source is available on every thread of the forum and no bias on merit sharing, hence everyone should have an allocation of sMerit per month in able to cover the merit distribution on the forum just like the reddit upvote and downvote power for everyone to gather karma.

You are trying to build a contribution group like github and not a forum by adding a stricter rules that requires merit just to keep your rank. It’s bitcointalk, I believe any form of discussion related to Bitcoin given that it’s not a spam is already a contribution here CMIIW.

Yes it’s not the highest but still they are one of the highest merit count than most of the participants

It proves me right, Check those accepted members merit history. Does the thread where the merit acquired looks familiar to you in relation to this topic? 

FYI IDGAF to you.



I can’t imagine you receive a merit for that garbage post most importantly from the user claiming he promote the proper use of merit and trust system.

Such a double standard.

Why not let’s cut the root that cause this situation?

All this account farmer aim to join on signature campaign while there’s only few active campaign manager right now that accept participants.

Since they are considering merit counts on accepting members why not establish a rule that merit gathered through this method merit jerking, spam thread and other merit sharing thread(except merit source thread) shouldn’t be considered.

If campaign manager will just based on post quality only, all this merit whore will be ignored. Bring back the old way that campaign manager check post quality instead of merit. It’s funny that some campaign manager give priority to user that gain most of merit from these questionable thread that is not related to the project they are promoting and keep ignoring those user that regularly contribute on discussion to the board which their project is suitable.

We should accept the reality now that merit is not always the right basis to consider a user as constructive poster especially for those new account that rapidly rank up due to this merit farming through their merit butt buddies.

This is why I keep criticizing signature campaign manager that keep accepting user based on the merit count without considering what thread or board they get most of it.

There’s a lot of this user enrolled on Rollbit campaign that allow new bloods user that obviously farm merit through this board and other mega spam board that merit is flooded either from merit source or their merit circle. If no campaign manager accept this kind of user account farmer through merit will be eliminated because most of this user is low quality poster in gambling board mostly posting about football too obvious discussion based on sports article.

The previous signature campaign standard that only based on post quality and content instead of merit count sometimes much better rather than the current basis that is pro merit farmer.

Newbie posting immediately on thread that has high merit distribution and have a good knowledge is an obvious alt.

Dude, merit exchange is very hard to fight if the forum admin doesn’t condone it personally. Local board like Nigeria, Indonesia and many more have this blatant merit circle jerk but no one can do against this blatant jerking for the sake of signature campaign.

I advise to focus on improvement of your own post rather than being a complete butt hurt or hater to this jerker. We can’t do anything about it most importantly if campaign manager value those merit quantity that get from merit spam thread over the post quality which the campaign they are promoting is suitable.

I do complaint about it a lot in the past but it’s not helpful and time consuming. It’s unfair to user like me that don’t post regularly to rank up.

You received lots of merits for posting this shit?

Lots people here are so hypocrits on making merits use strictly yet using it on ass licking purposes.

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Why not consider rechecking your campaign participants?

Why should I try. I’m not even aspiring to become one. I’m pointing out to you a concern since it’s your job not mine.

You keep accepting participants as “new bloods” that obviously a product of merit farming. They are just jerking around merit from merit thread then post the same generic sports post on football once accepted.

How sure you are that account is already stopped? This merit requirements just make the account farming exclusive for those who have the merit source.

Try to look on local board and see for yourself the reality. A newbie posting few months of merit begging on local board and merit source thread then go straight on signature campaign application once they gain enough merit is very common on local board like Nigeria, Indonesia, Turkey and more.

Account farming only becomes exclusive but not stopped. The clear result is it removes the casual forum user that doesn’t do a wall post just to beg for merit. Currently, discussion in the forum is less organic probably because only less people organically controlling each account.

I’m sure most of this alt farms is controlled by some established member here due to the nature of their constructive post immediately as newbie just to gain merit quickly since they knew the sweet spot of merit source.

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This user is an example for potential merit farming: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3357535

This user failed to join on multiple campaign before March 8 until he received of multiple merit on his generic post.

Amazing right? This is one of the example of alt farming becomes exclusive only to user with connection to merit source.

I like the idea of giving smerit to all user on random count. I mean what the heck is your problem with that?

Campaign manager should do their job to check the post quality instead of relying on merit count for fuck sake if signature campaign is the reason for this gate keeping Lord @LoyceV.

1xbit is probably the best example here. Many hacked account suddenly woke just to join signature campaign then later on stop posting after the campaign ends.

Funny thing is they are always become active whenever 1xbit campaign is live again and keep getting the spot.

No one will purchased high rank account just to suicide on a signature campaign that pay less to the account worth itself.

This is the result of campaign manager ignoring the DD on each participants and relying solely on tag or merit counts.

I think post quality and relevance of the board which user frequently posting should be the main criteria on choosing campaign members for specific project.

Example:
Why should campaign manager keep picking a member to promote a services that he doesn’t like or he keeps posting on board which the service is not relevant.

This merit counts that obviously from merit circle and positive trust from a backscratcher sugar coat with simple penny amount trade is being use as front to be easily accepted on signature campaign while the post quality itself is below average especially on gambling boards.

This is the product of campaign manager less DD because they are busy on multiple management project at the same time.

This drama will never be extended if only the 2 party involved will reconcile and talk seriously without the butting in. Yet both you just seeking for support to prove the other party is wrong that’s why this will never end.

Those extra side comments that stir the issue to make it a big deal make the forum drama worst. And guess what, Because of the +1 post on signature campaign.

Only @Vod is legitimately posting on this board without the hypocrisy of signature campaign. Smh!

This method is actually working! Check Rollbit signature campaign and other campaigns handle by manager. All the user is doing same shit merit fishing on different thread that merit is generous while the user post is generic AF.

We should admit that merit count matters now over post quality. Even Duelbits campaign now only consider minimum 50 merit regardless on how you get it.

Every merit jerker knew this secret sauce.

Keep doing that to prove I’m right with my suggestion. This kind of nonsense comment is the reason for this thread.

The goal of this thread is to make those serious becomes less spam post to easily arrived to conclusions without the butting in post.

Other boards are not considered serious because it doesn’t contain risk.


How come do you arrive on this conclusion. I even requested to you for investigation on accounts that obviously abusing merit to farm their accounts. This is happening on many local boards.

I only don’t want injustice by bullying small time cheater while there’s a blatant cheating happening in the form of merit jerker which is legally working on campaigns that handled by campaign manager that consider only merit count rather than where the merit get.

You can tag as many as you want. I never said what you said. My goal is not to stop fighting cheaters rather focus on what is blatantly merit jerking.

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I don’t buy that other account ranking fast because they are a good poster. They ranking fast because they are an alt account of established member that knew already how to farm merit.

I’m generalizing but those local boards regular poster peeps is highly suspicious.

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Someone with same intellect with @LoyceV can do multiple account and farm merit easily with those boards.

Again, I’m only using @LoyceV as example because he is the most established user here and the best example for high intellect user.

He is trying to imposed that his behavior should be the standard here.

If he is enjoying posting then why the heck he needs to apply on signature campaign?


Seriously, what’s the sense of having post quota on campaign.

And who define this shit?

It’s the most hypocritical take. You are being paid per post therefore it’s a job no matter how you twist it. Wtf privilege is this. You are applying to get a spot to do the job of posting while signature is attached on your sig space.

I’m only using you as an example on how incentivizing post motivates user to become a regular poster because some user is already trying to removed the freedom here in the forum by imposing their personal ideal forum while the forum itself doesn’t imposed that kind of rules all because of signature campaign.

And here you are defying all the rules and shit posting here because you’re goddamn @LoyceV. 

You’re the only one assuming that I’m an alt, This signature campaign makes the discussion inorganic just like this one.

You’re already done receiving your another +1 instead of just moving on if you don’t like the topic. Instead you post that is not relevant to the subject and attack my account.

What’s the big deal on removing incentive on this board. If scam topic happened everyone is still free to participate. This will remove unnecessary post from signature motivated member and only those doing genuine job on investigation will participate.

Reputation and scam accusation already become a drama board while it should be use to tackle serious topic. For example why serious discussion doesn’t display signature? Why Bitcoin wall observer still very active despite no signature display?

If this proposal is accepted, we will see more neat thread that focus on dealing the problem instead of prolonging it with unnecessary replies from ez +1 poster.