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Gents, please do keep the quoting to a minimum. Limit yourselves to one quote per post, for everybody's sake.

I've been quiet thus far because the accounts that are given by Bitcoinorama (aswell as keyzersoze, who also attended) are accurate. Bitcoinorama was very thorough with his questions and has been very thorough with the report of said questions.

For me nothing changed with the Monday open day!

/D

Hehe want to be skype'd in? I'm sure that could be arranged

It proves NOTHING i snapped some pics FFS that's all. You have my deepest apology!

Not kidding but maybe i missunderstood, this was only to symbolize the sizes and they just grabed the closest thing around so there are multiple instances for error so keep that in mind but the cooler will be massive.

I myself have no hardware ASIC experience so my understanding of this is strictly limited.

It would be good if the quoting was cut down a bit. My scroll-finger is starting to complain

Thanks 600Watt for adding info =)

I have some pics of the aircooling the showed us to get an idea of how big the coolers will be. As i understood it this is NOT the actual cooler just that it will be in this kinda size.
Also the started to talk about the actual size of the ASIC itself and it's quite large also the showed a board to symbolize the actual sice of their ASIC, commenting that this is the reason why the cooling is quite massive.
So the board laying on the side of the cooling unit is somewhat the size of the asic. I reserve myself that i might have misunderstood this part. It was just mentioned in relaxed conversation afterwards.

EDIT: Pic are onroute lol had a snag just a few minutes more
So here are the pics

The ruler is in METRIC centimeters (cm)
http://i.imgur.com/AnVQRHe.jpg

Symbol of what the Asic size will be
http://i.imgur.com/bLanQqg.jpg

Cooler and "chip"
http://i.imgur.com/69eNwFv.jpg

It had been asked and answered, they asked the group if we agreed which we did with no protests.

No, it is either TSMC or Global foundries. They are the two companies who have the capability to do this. KNCminer did not want to specify which one of those two that they are using for commercial reasons.

Openday update information Q&A link at
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214285.msg2391522#msg2391522

Hi folks,
Sorry for the wait but the meeting was around 2 hours and it takes a shitload of  time to process all questions and make it fairly clear what was said.

Hopefully this will answer some of your questions and help you form a better perception on whether KNCminer is the real deal or not, ie if they can do this.

Since I don't wish to bombard the forum with a crazy amount of text I've put it in a GDoc. Let me know if there are any issues.

Link - https://docs.google.com/document/d/15js8JsyHAiGoq_ELzx0hxG4xdA9ePJrhrc8y2bbWbRc/edit?usp=sharing

They will be air cooled. I'll evolve this later on.

Hi folks,
I feel that the community is waiting to hear back from the Open day event. Me and my associate attended. We put forward most if not all the questions that I have received (quite a few). It will take me some time to write all the answers down, hopefully I'll be done by tomorrow afternoon.

It has been said already by others who attended in this thread, but I'll reiterate what they stated. This endeavor seems legit. For the moment that is all I'll say. Answers to the questions will be posted as well as a few pictures soon(hopefully tomorrow afternoon).

Thanks, I gave up on this and switched to CGminer. but I appreciate the reply! Hopefully someone with similar issues will find help from it

Me and my associate would like to attend an afternoon session.

In short, this is about social inequality and not about multiculturalism. More relevant though is that this should not (95% certainty, my opinion) in any way affect KNC.

Update#2
I will bring a powermeter with me, just in case. Good idea with the audio recording. Here in Sweden you don't need to ask for permission as long as you partake in the conversation but it is polite to ask.

Photos/Videos (I'll try to include objects for distance-reference)
* Mars unit hashing
* Mars without a cover/case …shots of the internals if possible
* Hashing results in the software client
* The power supply attached
* A meter read of the power draw at the outlet – hopefully they’ll provide a monitor, or do you have one you could bring?


Questions
1) Is this demo unit built on the final design revision that we’ll see used at the time of full-scale production?
2) When will Mars begin production, if it hasn’t already?
3) Has any development work yet begun on the ASIC modules?
4) (If you’re not able to get a wattage reading from a meter)What is the power consumption on the Mars device?
5) What is the projected power consumption of the Saturn/Jupiter?
6) Do you plan on discontinuing the Mars BTC miners by a certain date or a quantity sold? (See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg2200152#msg2200152)
7) With this modular design, how will the ASIC units be interfaced with each other, considering that additional devices may be added at a later time?
8 ) Will these connected ASIC devices use a single shared network connection? What about the power?
9) Why only 50.000SEK in capital? (about 5500 EUR, not even funny considering there are so many founders. no penalty for failure, so not much of an incentive for success either)
10) Who pays for this really, how?
11) Debt incurred? how much, how long?
12) Why no ORSoC ppl on the board or directors? (not even deputy directors, only K/C wives or family?) (See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg2200152#msg2200152)
13) Is there an employee payroll or just founders?
14) Why start K&C AB as a consulting/hosting firm with the ORSoC ppl aboard?
15) K&C AB focus on miners or hosting/consulting?
16) Where is the real office? K's house, C's house, K & C AB office, another one??
17) What about security (data/facilities)? (why self host? no datacenters?) Disaster recovery plans? [careful, no specifics]
18)What about patents? Potential lawsuits? (are they insured against this?)
19)Are the founders insured? Does the insurance money cover losses/refunds? Is the company the beneficiary or not?
20)Expecting more sale outside of Sweden than in, can they finance the VAT in-between tax return periods? (See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg2200152#msg2200152)
21) Project % completion?
22) How much of the production will be financed by preorders? (possible corollary: why not more seed capital?)
23) Obviously with the Swedes' worshiping the semi-permanent sunlight they get for the summer months causing an acknowledged lackluster in productivity (according to JJ), will this in anyway affect the design and manufacture of their Saturn and Jupiter miners? And, what realistically, are the chances of having those devices delivered in September?
24) How can you be confident this will happen when both BFL and apparently Avalon have had issues delaying their production beyond reasonable expectations?
25) Most important can they meet the September 2013 dateline. When is the 350gh/s Asic prototype Miner going to be out? July 2013??
26) Will KNCMiner support P2Pool mining?
27) Given the five way partnership with three from OrSoc and with their experience of FPGAs and ASICs in the past, how will they achieve their technical goals and how long will it take?
28) Are there any potential third party hiccups that are likely to delay anything?
29) What projects of similar kind have they completed before?

Other
1) Where are you? Office / Workroom / Lab …?[/li][/list]
2) What else is around? Desks (with phones? ..how many?) / Workstations / Machinery …?
3) Who, specifically, is in attendance at this meeting? Do you see other people around as well?
4) How much noise does the Mars device produce? ..perhaps think of something comparative
5) Do you feel much heat radiation from the Mars unit?

I haven't gotten any new info regarding the open house yet. No reply from Sam and nothing from KNCminer in the thread.

Someone wrote that is was tomorrow in this thread?! I'd like to get a confirmation regarding that.