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dcgirl
on 14/04/2016, 13:00:38 UTC
Rich Territo claims he pays for servers...

we both do, at quite a significant monthly cost. not going to get into your little fight with him though.
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dcgirl
on 14/04/2016, 11:28:09 UTC
we have several servers for this project, half of them are mine.
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dcgirl
on 14/04/2016, 11:00:03 UTC
Beware, this scam accusation thread of utter scummyness involves dcgirl.....
.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.7680
If true dcgirl was involved with the pervert scammer fat Vern from crapsy!!

Hi everyone - i worked for Cryptsy in the fall of 2015. Prior to that I was a moderator there. I heard earlier this week that Cryptsy coins were being sold on Bittrex and contacted Paul Vernon about it. And then foolishly decided to post about that on that thread.

You all can believe what you want about me. I have been and will continue to cooperate with authorities about Cryptsy.

As you all know, I've given away some MTR but have never sold any (as is very obvious). If you no longer want me to work on this project I'll turn my servers off and call it a day.

In parting, let me just say this - it doesn't seem to matter around here if you do the right thing. The goal is not to get information - those people could have done that just by asking me questions. The goal instead is to hurt people as much as is possible, and they're experts at that. I won't take that anymore.
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dcgirl
on 13/04/2016, 14:34:34 UTC

Time for you to shut the fuck up. No one wants to hear from any worthless little trolls claiming to be part of Paul's circlejerk of theft. And if you really are in contact with Paul, you'd be better off hiring an attorney and figuring out how to avoid prosecution due to your complicity in this mess.

You know, I don't blame you at all for feeling the way you do. But as long as Paul is willing to still talk to me, or I can find out information, I am going to share it here. You can put me on ignore if you want.
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dcgirl
on 13/04/2016, 02:02:17 UTC
Any new news on a full release?! DC said a while back it was close.

I'm the holdup on this, been really swamped. This is what's left - we need to move the etna software to the production servers, I'm in the middle of encrypting the payment function, and I'm redoing chat. Then it should be ready. Will try to get this done as soon as possible.
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dcgirl
on 12/04/2016, 23:14:35 UTC
By the way i always figured DCGirl's involvement was with Crytpsy since day ONE !
Their attempt to MOD her was a stunt..

I never had proof but i would bet left nut on it in a heart beat !

Tell me this guys..
why would a nobody occasional random coin trader named DCGirl (who used other names for years before that)
Be able to simply call up Vern and grill him on the most intense and serious matters ?
You would think a nobody chat box moderator would be ignored.
She was not ignored because she is far more involved than she lets on.
and has been for YEARS.

Rule no 1 of any chat box.. make names and play games.
She had been there since day one and used a bunch of other Chat box names.
I know it's here and had many run in's with her..
And why do people change names ?
They do when they ruined the last one they used and it has become "stained"

I have been watching and keeping tabs on all these fuckers from day one
and ALL of them use a SHIT LOAD of names !

All of them have been lurking around playing dumb and playing games galore.
then have the fucking nerve to come here and play dumb & innocent... AGAIN.

Don't fail for it people.

Hey - its been a while for sure. I really dont care what you say about me. I'm not about to defend myself. When records at Cryptsy are examined they will show when people were made mods,  when they were hired,  when they started drawing a salary and when that stopped. It will show who did what, who knew what and when they knew what they knew. Rest assured your little staff analysis has some flaws but they'll figure it all out.  When they take my computer they will see who I communicated with and when.

And they will see what I said last night about what happened at trex.
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dcgirl
on 12/04/2016, 22:38:23 UTC

so he admitted to selling coins on bittrex? though its obvious it was him seeing as other employees stated only paul had access to keys. thats if they were telling the truth. whats your opinion on paul? full gox and shady now or...? im curious

I go back and forth about what I think. I usually try to find the good in people but when I saw what was going on at trex it just cut me to the core and I had to try to stop it.
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on 12/04/2016, 20:31:42 UTC
Did vern happen to mention why he was stil selling coins on bittrex when cryptsy was unavailable to customers to withdraw? Or why when it was receiver appointed he was still selling. Surely you can see he's being a naughty boy.

I'm not sure what the reason was. I made clear that those coins do not belong to Paul Vernon, they do not belong to Cryptsy and they do not belong to the receiver. But legally the receiver is now the custodian of those funds. I'm happy that he agreed to do the right thing, and will not drop this. I will also speak up if the receiver tries to liquidate the coins to satisfy company debt.
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dcgirl
on 12/04/2016, 19:39:45 UTC
Can you confirm Vern has sent back the wallets thunderjet tracked to him as well as the 13000 he tried to steal?

Specifically talking about these wallets:



1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332     50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074    19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775    22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786    34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805    22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147    12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239    19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806        8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867    4   393904

and these:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww
etc

I am concerned he might try to withhold these embezzled/laundered coins away from the receiver. The reason it's so important is because if he withholds them he's probably going to jail for embezzlement and money laundering but if he returns them he might not even go to jail or if he does it might just be for fraud or contempt of court, not as serious.

I can't really confirm anything, just relate what he told me, that he has turned over all customer funds to the receiver. I will, however, continue to follow up on this.
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dcgirl
on 12/04/2016, 18:46:15 UTC
Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.

I spoke with Paul last night. I believe he has turned all wallets - those on Cryptsy servers, and those at Bittrex- over to the receiver, as well as the servers themselves. I think he sent out a tweet saying this. I would expect that the receiver can confirm that he received this.

Would that include the keys to those wallets?

As far as I know. If you find out otherwise please let me know, thanks.
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dcgirl
on 12/04/2016, 18:33:53 UTC
Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.

I spoke with Paul last night. I believe he has turned all wallets - those on Cryptsy servers, and those at Bittrex- over to the receiver, as well as the servers themselves. I think he sent out a tweet saying this. I would expect that the receiver can confirm that he received this.
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dcgirl
on 05/04/2016, 21:28:00 UTC
Ooh cool, I'll narrate this one:

===>

Yes - Dana C. Ragazza = DCGirl. I think you'll find a whole thread here on bitcointalk about that. Feel free to contact Brad at the coinfront to confirm why I used that name.

No - Susan Wilson does not = DCGirl

At this point I'm not sure if you're trying to save face or if you really think you're right.

Either way - sigh, whatever.


so you confirm you commit fraud i.e. use fake names for nefarious purposes?  wow  Shocked

yes and its a fake picture too. feel free to ask the coinfront about that, but it was done for "non-nefarious" purposes.




i'm asking you .. hello? who you scamming bro?  Roll Eyes

call me a scammer and a liar, I really don't care. hopefully y'all are done calling me susan wilson.
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dcgirl
on 05/04/2016, 21:17:33 UTC
Ooh cool, I'll narrate this one:

===>

Yes - Dana C. Ragazza = DCGirl. I think you'll find a whole thread here on bitcointalk about that. Feel free to contact Brad at the coinfront to confirm why I used that name.

No - Susan Wilson does not = DCGirl

At this point I'm not sure if you're trying to save face or if you really think you're right.

Either way - sigh, whatever.


so you confirm you commit fraud i.e. use fake names for nefarious purposes?  wow  Shocked

yes and its a fake picture too. feel free to ask the coinfront about that, but it was done for "non-nefarious" purposes.

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dcgirl
on 05/04/2016, 20:46:36 UTC
Ooh cool, I'll narrate this one:

Dude - the "3LA"s as you call them already have my name, my address and my phone number. I have every intention of testifying if I'm asked to, will turn over my computer and anything else they want. Because, get this, I want to see justice served and I want customers to get their funds.

I seriously don't give a crap if you go after me. People have been doing that forever. I only joined your little troll fantasy party to get you to leave this susan wilson person alone. Unless she worked there and left before I started there I don't think she worked for cryptsy.


Is "forever" back to when that infamous Kickstarter campaign kicked off? You seem pretty adamant in wanting to end this Susan Wilson connection, leaving herr alone, but never came here when other random names were evoked while in pursuit of the truth as to what happened at Cryptsy, yet you say that you, too, are seeking justice, albeit offering up nothing in said pursuit with the exception of recently wanting to protect some "innocent" from suffering scorn on this forum which would be nothing compared to what Susan Wilson already went through. That said, I'm more than happy and willing to add to that scorn with a Bitcoin connection, namely an ~U$10M heist that has Paul Vernon's name written all over it.

sigh. whatever.

Let's play WHATEVER.

http://thecoinfront.com/about/





Google image search results:




"I think my teeth goes great with my pig nose."

Etymology[edit]
Either from Arabic raqqàs (waitress at an inn) via Mediterranean Lingua Franca[1] or as the feminised version of the masculine ragazzo (boy; boyfriend) from Vulgar Latin ragazium, probably ultimately from Ancient Greek.
Noun[edit]
ragazza f ‎(plural ragazze, masculine ragazzo)
girl
girlfriend

Ergo, Dana C. Ragazza = DCGirl.

Yes - Dana C. Ragazza = DCGirl. I think you'll find a whole thread here on bitcointalk about that. Feel free to contact Brad at the coinfront to confirm why I used that name.

No - Susan Wilson does not = DCGirl

At this point I'm not sure if you're trying to save face or if you really think you're right.

Either way - sigh, whatever.
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dcgirl
on 05/04/2016, 19:55:57 UTC
Dude - the "3LA"s as you call them already have my name, my address and my phone number. I have every intention of testifying if I'm asked to, will turn over my computer and anything else they want. Because, get this, I want to see justice served and I want customers to get their funds.

I seriously don't give a crap if you go after me. People have been doing that forever. I only joined your little troll fantasy party to get you to leave this susan wilson person alone. Unless she worked there and left before I started there I don't think she worked for cryptsy.


Is "forever" back to when that infamous Kickstarter campaign kicked off? You seem pretty adamant in wanting to end this Susan Wilson connection, leaving herr alone, but never came here when other random names were evoked while in pursuit of the truth as to what happened at Cryptsy, yet you say that you, too, are seeking justice, albeit offering up nothing in said pursuit with the exception of recently wanting to protect some "innocent" from suffering scorn on this forum which would be nothing compared to what Susan Wilson already went through. That said, I'm more than happy and willing to add to that scorn with a Bitcoin connection, namely an ~U$10M heist that has Paul Vernon's name written all over it.

sigh. whatever.
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dcgirl
on 05/04/2016, 19:38:23 UTC
Dude - the "3LA"s as you call them already have my name, my address and my phone number. I have every intention of testifying if I'm asked to, will turn over my computer and anything else they want. Because, get this, I want to see justice served and I want customers to get their funds.

I seriously don't give a crap if you go after me. People have been doing that forever. I only joined your little troll fantasy party to get you to leave this susan wilson person alone. Unless she worked there and left before I started there I don't think she worked for cryptsy.

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dcgirl
on 05/04/2016, 11:42:54 UTC
In the unique 1+1=11 logic of bitcointalk, someone saw that I created a game called Whack-a-Troll and a lightbulb apparently went off. "OH I remember some scammy lady with a daughter that created a Whack game!" And down the rabbit hole we went.

Whack-a-Troll was a pretty lame game (see pic). I ended up calling it Whack-a-Coin, and in it, a user (UTC) would in a series of levels, try to beat other coins and get to the last level and try to beat BTC (boss). I never released it, but we all played it for a while.



So anyway, this poor Susan lady (although she is much prettier, younger and richer than me, so maybe I shouldn't feel too sorry for her) is now associated with Cryptsy. Hey, maybe she actually is. I really don't know, since I ONLY WORKED THERE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS LAST YEAR. Maybe she is actually one of the culprits.

But before we completely blame her, maybe I'm really a guy! Maybe I'm the scammy guy that created this game:



Or this one (this one is particularly appropriate)!



Sigh. You know, if you really want to track down who I am maybe you should start asking the UTC or ToshiDesk people. Or not, your logic leaps are certainly interesting (I couldn't believe you found something with Marshall Long's name associated with Susan Wilson, that boggles the mind).

And before I go, the $10/hour thing - believe me, that's a fraction of what other people were making. I accepted that short-term until things turned around, not knowing the place was already doomed.

So... carry on.

[EDIT] Oh, and why I posted now - not to head off your "investigation" - I posted because I saw some random person's name associated with mine, and thought I'd head that off. 3 pages of posts later I see that didn't work. So, believe what you want. Previously I hadn't ever posted because I WORKED THERE FOR 2 1/2 MONTHS. Geez.
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on 04/04/2016, 15:05:46 UTC
Alright, I knew it was just a matter of time before y'all decided to go after me. So here's my story.

I started at Cryptsy as a contractor in September 2015, brought in to make website improvements. I stopped working there in November 2015. During that time I had no access to either wallets or the production environment. As far as Bitebi9, I was one of several cryptsy employees that was asked to work on the site. My job was to implement translations.

It doesn't surprise me to have my name raised here, although some of the speculation does. It's how btctalk seems to roll - people don't ask questions, instead, they make accusations. When I was with ultracoin I made a website called Ultra-Arb, that showed the difference between coin prices at exchanges, so people could arbitrage. I didn't charge for the site, didn't charge for coins to be listed, but it was still accused of being a scam. I used to do giveaways on twitter and in various trollboxes, and was accused of shilling coins.

As far as Cryptsy goes, I was as shocked as everyone else was to find out about the hack. I also believed the "never been hacked" story. I still have coins stuck there. I made $10/hour, part-time, in the 2 1/2 months I was on the payroll. I was as far from the inner circle at cryptsy as anyone could be, and the other developers actively hated me. That was the main reason I left. But I saw the writing on the wall - no revenues were coming in, no trading was going on, and withdrawals were barely going out.

While I have spoken to Paul Vernon on Skype, I have never met him (have never met any Cryptsy employees) and am not his "paramour". I'm a widowed mom of 2 boys that lives near and works in Washington, DC.

Blaming me for Cryptsy's problems is like blaming the last person hired at Enron for their collapse.

I've been approached by a team of developers that are building a new exchange and want to integrate ToshiDesk (another project I'm involved in) into it. My first word of advice to them was - you probably don't want to do that because people associate me with Cryptsy, even though I had nothing to do with what happened. My second piece of advice was- don't do it unless you can somehow insure customer funds (I think they'll be implementing a recovery fund, and somehow using smart contracts on accounts for that). And my final piece of advice was - be ready to have your life ruined by the people on btctalk, no matter how honest and innocent you are.

So there you go. I won't post here again, but tear me down, drag my name through the mud, say I fuck pigs, all those good things y'all do.
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on 29/03/2016, 02:13:33 UTC
Once again: everything in this abomination is at the whim of Territo or whatever his name is. Only MTR accepted? Why? Why not BTC or, indeed, fiat. If people were to see any value at all -which they will not- like everything else out there you can pay for it with plastic, with fiat in cash or with digital currency. Why would a platform that has always been conceived as a subscription based tool be any different.  There's no real marriage here and the only binding tie is the whim of Territo who, if it were to have any success -and it will not, because it is a terrible idea-, would logically want to at least get his investment back and some profits to show for many many months of efforts... MTR is a copy/paste clone, a joke really at 90% Territo owned and sraking at 10% a month. With nothing whatsoever behind it.
Worthless.

Not sure why I'm responding, but anyway...

It's obvious you have a problem with Rich, and a problem with the distribution of MTR, and nothing I say will change that, so I won't even try. But, the rest of your argument - why only MTR, for example. Let's make that a wider example and ask that about every coin. Why would anyone want to use any coin to purchase anything? And if there's no reason anyone would, well, why are we all here?

Is there any value in an "in-house" currency anywhere? Like an in-house currency for platforms like Twitch or Minecraft? That all depends on the size of the audience. Now, I don't ever expect ToshiDesk to have an audience that's more than a tiny fraction of those, as the crypto world is small. But suppose it does gain wider use, by branching into a white-label situation where it is embedded into multiple sites (the first of which we are currently negotiating). And suppose we decide we want to continue to have MTR be the in-house currency for it. All that does is grows the market for the coin. And  I would imagine it has the potential to grow the interest in speculation for the coin as well.

I don't expect that any of this will "convince" you of anything as your agenda is pretty clear, but the rest of the community might be interested in what I say. I didn't join this project because of MTR, I joined it because I saw and still see potential in the application. But I do see potential for MTR to grow along with it, and have "dreams" of where MTR can go - technically - to use more advanced blockchain technologies that will also expand its value. That's a discussion for the future, though.

As far as the "he controls 90%" argument - yes, he does control the keys to that, and yes, he could dump at any time. But I control the source code for the application. I'll pull that in a minute if he doesn't do what he agreed when I first agreed to work on this - to use the premine only for purposes that would grow the value of the coin.  We may never find that necessary to do, and could destroy the premine, or we could just keep it sitting on the sideline. But it's not something I expect to change any time soon.







Oh I can tell you EXACTLY why: you are responding because you think you have a good, positive answer to one of my criticisms. The 90% premine. "If he touches it, i'll retire my code immediately ". Now isn't that just peachy? So instead of one individual controlling over 90% it will be TWO individuals.  Both bent on bein 100% honest and not to cover their expenses and get a bit of compensation for their work, right? oh and by the way, Rich, by hos own admissions, has already "touched the premine" to "help with the expenses... even as t these levels of non-volume.

But since you make the best possible argument AGAINST the project, lets dig a bit: your main interest, concern, etc. Is the application, toshi desk which you hope will be adopted and subscribed to I n big numbers. Well, most of what td offers was already on your website. For free. How many subs did you have? That would be as good starting point... but lets be real generous and assume that people will buy the white platform and in an epic act of belief, that they would accept the use of MTR as the only form of payment (you cannot really believe that, can you? Really? Why?). That would put a lot of MTR out there, right? Wonderful! Lots of demand, right? Well sorry but no, WRONG. Because the more MTR out there, the WORSE actually because many many more coins would be staking at the absurd 10% monthly rate (which you forgot conveniently to mention), therefore flooding the market with many more coins than will be necessary to cover the most optimist need imaginable. And that's being deliriously optimistic because, really, why would anyone want to purchase toshi desk to begin with and, much less, a copy/paste hackjob of a coin like MTR, that brings absolutely nothing to the table, doesnt add -and subtracts a lot- any value to toshi desk?  Oh wait, later on you will code into it some kind of "smart contract" that would make all the difference, right? Not enough of those already there, right?

Look DC, I know you mean well. And I know it's only human to be enticed seeing those coins Rich pays you grow exponentially month to month. But I  know you are intelligent enough to see by now that this is a catastrophe already happened with no possible way to any progress as long as those fundamental absurdities -the premine and the 10% monthly- remain in place.

Oh and not only I dont have anything against Rich, I actually like his wavering -yes, wavering- determination.  It is just that this whole idea, sadly, is simply terrible. And the plan followed so far, beyond terrible; it's an abomination.


The nicest thing about the world we live in, and especially about btctalk, is we all are given the opportunity to judge things as we see fit. You see catastrophe waiting to happen, I see potential. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

And quite honestly, I'm glad you are sharing your concerns, because that's the best purpose of this forum. It gives people all of the information they need to make decisions about what to invest in. I'll continue to work and share my progress and you can continue to push us to improve our offering. Maybe we'll all win.
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dcgirl
on 27/03/2016, 11:50:29 UTC
Once again: everything in this abomination is at the whim of Territo or whatever his name is. Only MTR accepted? Why? Why not BTC or, indeed, fiat. If people were to see any value at all -which they will not- like everything else out there you can pay for it with plastic, with fiat in cash or with digital currency. Why would a platform that has always been conceived as a subscription based tool be any different.  There's no real marriage here and the only binding tie is the whim of Territo who, if it were to have any success -and it will not, because it is a terrible idea-, would logically want to at least get his investment back and some profits to show for many many months of efforts... MTR is a copy/paste clone, a joke really at 90% Territo owned and sraking at 10% a month. With nothing whatsoever behind it.
Worthless.

Not sure why I'm responding, but anyway...

It's obvious you have a problem with Rich, and a problem with the distribution of MTR, and nothing I say will change that, so I won't even try. But, the rest of your argument - why only MTR, for example. Let's make that a wider example and ask that about every coin. Why would anyone want to use any coin to purchase anything? And if there's no reason anyone would, well, why are we all here?

Is there any value in an "in-house" currency anywhere? Like an in-house currency for platforms like Twitch or Minecraft? That all depends on the size of the audience. Now, I don't ever expect ToshiDesk to have an audience that's more than a tiny fraction of those, as the crypto world is small. But suppose it does gain wider use, by branching into a white-label situation where it is embedded into multiple sites (the first of which we are currently negotiating). And suppose we decide we want to continue to have MTR be the in-house currency for it. All that does is grows the market for the coin. And  I would imagine it has the potential to grow the interest in speculation for the coin as well.

I don't expect that any of this will "convince" you of anything as your agenda is pretty clear, but the rest of the community might be interested in what I say. I didn't join this project because of MTR, I joined it because I saw and still see potential in the application. But I do see potential for MTR to grow along with it, and have "dreams" of where MTR can go - technically - to use more advanced blockchain technologies that will also expand its value. That's a discussion for the future, though.

As far as the "he controls 90%" argument - yes, he does control the keys to that, and yes, he could dump at any time. But I control the source code for the application. I'll pull that in a minute if he doesn't do what he agreed when I first agreed to work on this - to use the premine only for purposes that would grow the value of the coin.  We may never find that necessary to do, and could destroy the premine, or we could just keep it sitting on the sideline. But it's not something I expect to change any time soon.