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Re: [10 Th/s] 50BTC.com - PPS|Stratum+Vardiff|Port 80|QIWI,Yandex,Mobile,LR,WM...
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killingtime
on 08/05/2013, 14:09:48 UTC
Anyone else seeing 40% packetloss to 50BTC at the moment?

Also seems to be load issues at every new block on the network - my shares queue for anything up to a minute, and if there's a couple of blocks in succession I can lose a good few minutes of hashing because they all end up rejected. It leads to a very visible dip in my worker hashrate graph Sad

Are you using the getwork/longpolling port 8332?  I had this same problem but switched to stratum (3333) and have subsequently had no issues.
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Re: [10 Th/s] 50BTC.com - PPS|Stratum+Vardiff|Port 80|QIWI,Yandex,Mobile,LR,WM...
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killingtime
on 07/05/2013, 00:11:46 UTC
Not sure if this would help exactly, but maybe as a test switch from getwork 8332 to stratum 3333 and see how it goes.

Didn't even know that was an option.  I will try that.  Thanks

It's been a few hours and none of the 4 miners have had any communications problems with the stratum pool.  Thanks for the advice.
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Re: [10 Th/s] 50BTC.com - PPS|Stratum+Vardiff|Port 80|QIWI,Yandex,Mobile,LR,WM...
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killingtime
on 06/05/2013, 21:33:39 UTC
Not sure if this would help exactly, but maybe as a test switch from getwork 8332 to stratum 3333 and see how it goes.

Didn't even know that was an option.  I will try that.  Thanks
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Re: [10 Th/s] 50BTC.com - PPS|Stratum+Vardiff|Port 80|QIWI,Yandex,Mobile,LR,WM...
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killingtime
on 06/05/2013, 17:54:36 UTC
Watching them, them seem to happen more often than not near/around a new block detected.  Are the pool servers getting overwhelmed with work requests?

(this is a slow miner, but it shows the example)

 [2013-05-06 12:48:33] Accepted ec784c92 Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 0
 [2013-05-06 12:49:07] LONGPOLL from pool 0 detected new block
 [2013-05-06 12:49:18] Pool 0 http://pool.50btc.com:8332 not responding!
 [2013-05-06 12:49:18] Switching to pool 1 http://stratum.btcguild.com:3333
 [2013-05-06 12:49:28] Accepted 14747813 Diff 12/1 GPU 0 pool 1
 [2013-05-06 12:49:49] Accepted e2fd1414 Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 1
 [2013-05-06 12:50:04] Pool 0 http://pool.50btc.com:8332 alive
 [2013-05-06 12:50:04] Switching to pool 0 http://pool.50btc.com:8332
 [2013-05-06 12:50:30] Accepted 03499f41 Diff 77/1 GPU 0 pool 0
 [2013-05-06 12:50:39] Accepted e43ee9a8 Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 0
 [2013-05-06 12:50:41] Accepted 2ae564a9 Diff 5/1 GPU 0 pool 0
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Re: [10 Th/s] 50BTC.com - PPS|Stratum+Vardiff|Port 80|QIWI,Yandex,Mobile,LR,WM...
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killingtime
on 06/05/2013, 17:35:54 UTC
This has been happening a lot to me recently:

[2013-05-06 12:30:02] Accepted 46d12787 Diff 3/1 GPU 0 pool 0
[2013-05-06 12:30:05] Pool 0 http://pool.50btc.com:8332 not responding!
[2013-05-06 12:30:05] Switching to pool 1 http://stratum.btcguild.com:3333
[2013-05-06 12:30:20] Accepted 34957ca4 Diff 4/1 GPU 0 pool 1
[2013-05-06 12:30:25] Accepted f6233d52 Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 1
[2013-05-06 12:30:28] Accepted 398a11d3 Diff 4/1 GPU 0 pool 1
[2013-05-06 12:30:44] Accepted bf6d1a6e Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 1
[2013-05-06 12:30:46] Accepted aff54d77 Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 1
[2013-05-06 12:30:55] Accepted ae11e4ba Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 1
[2013-05-06 12:30:57] Pool 0 http://pool.50btc.com:8332 alive
[2013-05-06 12:30:57] Switching to pool 0 http://pool.50btc.com:8332
[2013-05-06 12:31:00] Accepted ad03956f Diff 1/1 GPU 0 pool 0
[2013-05-06 12:31:01] Accepted 5029ed46 Diff 3/1 GPU 0 pool 0

I have 4 miners on 4 different computers, and they each experience this.  The times above are in US/Central. (most recent failure on a 680 mhash miner)

I only do about 2GH/s combined, and I reset my stats on BTC guild last night about 12 hours ago, and since then, I've failed over to them enough to submit 895 shares.

I saw a post a few days back on the previous page as well on this same topic.
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 03/05/2013, 21:14:08 UTC
No need to go to BTC Guild. I have earned almost twice as much here as I did there. And I tested both PPLNS and PPS.

I dabble on both, and I find (as I should find), that slush's pays more on average if you give it long enough to deal with the bad luck vs the good luck, and the BTC Guild's PPS is just a nice solid method with easy payouts.  It's just these really, really bad days that hurt things.  Over the last 2 days, with this huge spat of bad luck, basically have lost a full days worth of mining compared to a PPS.  But let it ride, and eventually it should even out.

So, it comes down to personal preference.  PPS for a zero variance (excepting of course difficulty changes) reward, or a score system like slush, which pays based on luck.
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 03/05/2013, 20:37:55 UTC
I will guess BTCguild's success is largely to do with their UI and the "all powerful" average earnings per 24 hrs feedback.
In the light of there success, they are not following free market principals I have so come to admire about Bitcoin, but are now penalising usurers for there success, so I have swung back to mine with slush.

You obviously have not understood BTC Guild's reasoning and purpose of their fee change.  In point of fact, they are trying to protect the "free" and decentralized nature of bitcoin by try to get people to move to other pools so that their pool is not so singly powerful.  If some of the bigger users would voluntarily switch pools, then the pool would not have to be attempting to make the pool less desirable.  Heck, getting ASICminer to move would be sufficient Smiley

Sure they are, and so they should be, but employing top down central planning is not a move in the right direction, I know where that leads. They could do lots of things, even operating as a Guild and giving their members proportional representation and throwing a little might and cash at the Bitcoin foundation would be better than what they are doing.

Things will most likely correct themselves (if you want to continue the mis-use of the phrase "free market", then use that here) as ASIC becomes more available to more people, and the other pools catch up and/or new pools are created.  There's just an unfortunate phase here were the top 4 users on BTC Guild comprise nearly 50% of their overall hash rate, and comprise nearly 25% of the overall hash network....
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 03/05/2013, 20:04:01 UTC
I will guess BTCguild's success is largely to do with their UI and the "all powerful" average earnings per 24 hrs feedback.
In the light of there success, they are not following free market principals I have so come to admire about Bitcoin, but are now penalising usurers for there success, so I have swung back to mine with slush.

You obviously have not understood BTC Guild's reasoning and purpose of their fee change.  In point of fact, they are trying to protect the "free" and decentralized nature of bitcoin by try to get people to move to other pools so that their pool is not so singly powerful.  If some of the bigger users would voluntarily switch pools, then the pool would not have to be attempting to make the pool less desirable.  Heck, getting ASICminer to move would be sufficient Smiley
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 03/05/2013, 17:35:40 UTC
api.bitcoin.cz:8332 is indeed a proxy to both getwork and stratum, but if getwork is down, then connecting to this wigs out and you may or may not properly switch over to stratum.  This happened recently.  Probably best to just use stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 Smiley
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 03/05/2013, 03:06:49 UTC
is gox ok to use to get cash from coins?

I prefer coinbase, I have my reward sent straight to them, and every now and then (depending on gox's price) sell straight to my bank account.  They do a 1% fee, and there's like a $0.15 "bank fee".  Way cheaper than gox if you are cashing in in the single digit BTC or less.  Now, gox's $10 wire transfer fee is looking okay around the >$1000 worth, but...not for this small fry Smiley
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 02/05/2013, 04:41:41 UTC
One thing to note for the low mhash users, there was recently an increase in the bitcoin difficulty, thus causing a reduction in overall share value, and in terms of a pseudo-proportional scoring system like on slush's pool, that means your score will go down, and thus your reward.  I see some people talking about how things are "different" after the DDoS attack, but coincident to this attack, was the recent bump in difficultly, thus making a before/after comparison moot.
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 01/05/2013, 03:36:50 UTC
No - there is definitely something wrong here.  I'm not being paid for any blocks anymore

17774   2013-04-30 20:25:35   2:03:23   14233698   132   0.00000000
17775   2013-04-30 23:59:52   3:34:17   24772020   145   0.00000000
17776   2013-05-01 02:25:35   2:25:43   16453036    13   0.00000000

I have moved over to another pool, and I'm not having problems there with zero returns per block, even if my share counts are low.

The problem here is that these are fairly long blocks, and the scoring system works in such a way that shares done towards the end count more than at the beginning, but the flip to this is that with slow share submission at the end it could look like you were not sending anything and your score would be decaying faster than you were adding shares.  Even if this was done with the simple calc of (your shares / total shares) * 25 * 0.98, you only be looking at 0.0002.  And and average submission rate of a bit more than 1 share per minute.  While slush's pool is pretty nice for most people, I don't think it is a great solution for such a low hash rate.  You're just getting unlucky with score decay and too steep of a curve at the end.
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 30/04/2013, 22:24:20 UTC
Huh, my lowly 1.6 GH/s was able to submit 13 shares.  That means you are only doing a measly 45 GH/s, and you call yourself an ASIC user?
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 27/04/2013, 20:36:47 UTC
17719 seems to be suspiciously light in rewards.  Thanks
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Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested
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killingtime
on 27/04/2013, 04:08:10 UTC
Its my 1st time to post here.
Ive been here from the time that the site was hacked and all i can say is " Slush is da mheen!" hats off to you man.  Grin


#         Block found at          Duration   Total shares   Your shares        Your BTC reward           Block #
17682   2013-04-25 17:30:10   5:15:03   32470080              135                0.00000000            233105

already confrimed but no reward?



The same apply to you. Too small number of shares comparing to total number of shares.

Bah, this should still have received around 0.0001, unless you did those 135 shares towards the beginning and then stopped mining.  As such, your score decay would've zeroed it out.
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Re: The Price Of Bitcoins Has Lowered!
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killingtime
on 19/04/2013, 03:15:09 UTC
Cool website, do anybody knows what programming language that chart is in? Is it some kind of JSON and jQuery?

gox provides a streaming web sockets api, and a little dhtml goodness and you've got some charts.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MtGox/API/Streaming
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Re: The Price Of Bitcoins Has Lowered!
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killingtime
on 19/04/2013, 02:03:34 UTC
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Re: How does mining work?
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killingtime
on 19/04/2013, 02:02:52 UTC
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Re: Education
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killingtime
on 19/04/2013, 01:51:20 UTC
Use the mt.gox api to create a trading applications.  Send/cancel orders.  Create a streaming socket market data application.
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Re: Dual 7970 system producing half the expected hashrate
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killingtime
on 19/04/2013, 01:22:40 UTC
try adjusting the intensity to 9,9 (under GPU menu)