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When you do stupid things in life, be prepared for the consequences - and I can't say anything other than that it's really stupid to give your BTT account to someone else without first considering that someone will notice that the person behind that account has changed. The way some users of this forum think is incredible, in a negative context of course.
If the admins approve this request, I would recommend a signature ban for 2 years - because when you rent an account to a friend, then you deserve to lose it for a while.
If the admins approve this request, I would recommend a signature ban for 2 years - because when you rent an account to a friend, then you deserve to lose it for a while.
Thank you for your attention.
Yes, it was a foolish idea I deeply regret my decision, but in that intention was simply to help a friend in need, not realizing the broader implications of my actions. I just wanted to help him while I was damaging myself and I didn't understand which was my mistake.
But I didn't 'rent' anything.
I just wanted to help him since he was the only son of his family and had no income( long story). I would never take anything for myself considering his situation.
People who know me here can understand I'm not the guy to abuse or take advantage of people.
I understand now that what I did was wrong, regardless of my intentions. I have learned a hard lesson from this experience and will never make the same mistake again.
I don't know how else to describe the situation in which your alleged friend used your BTT account to gain financial gain through a signature campaign in which you are participating? If you wanted to help a friend, why didn't you just pass on to him what you earned on the forum?
I personally don't think your story is true, but that you simply thought you would stay under the radar with what you were doing - or that BTT account was sold at some point to someone who is clearly a shitposter
Thank you again for taking the time to read my posts, Lucius.
You’re right that I could have just given him money or passed on my earnings directly, but I felt that wouldn’t truly help him in the long run. I didn’t want to create the impression that income could be gained effortlessly or without work. My intention was to encourage him to work for what he needed, not to give him something for free and risk fostering dependency.
I am willing to provide additional evidence if needed. If DT members would like access to my Telegram account to verify my honesty, I am happy to cooperate.
That being said, I now understand that my approach was wrong and that handing over my account was a mistake. I completely underestimated the potential risks and consequences for the forum and the community. I’ve learned a hard lesson from this, and I deeply regret my actions. Moving forward, I will never repeat such a mistake if I get the chance.
This is where the OP has justified allowing a third party to use his account by claiming he wanted them to earn the money rather than be given it. The whole thing is a mess and I know some do believe his story whereas others do not believe.
Either way, if we accept his version of events he has allowed a third party to login to his account and plagiarise therefore a sanction is due. If on the other hand he himself plagiarised then a sanction is also due.
As Lucius suggested, maybe a (2 year) signature ban will be sufficient or if the admin want to send a stronger message to the wider community then a permanent ban will remain.
Either way, if we accept his version of events he has allowed a third party to login to his account and plagiarise therefore a sanction is due. If on the other hand he himself plagiarised then a sanction is also due.
As Lucius suggested, maybe a (2 year) signature ban will be sufficient or if the admin want to send a stronger message to the wider community then a permanent ban will remain.
You could have used your account yourself, earn yourself and then help your friend but you didn’t. It is pretty stupid to let some other person access your account.
Thank you for your input and for reading my posts. I understand how this situation looks, and I take full responsibility for allowing someone else to use my account, regardless of my intentions. It was a clear mistake, and I deeply regret it.
At the time, my focus was on helping someone in need, but I now see how my actions could have harmed the integrity of the forum and violated its rules.
I appreciate the suggestion of a temporary signature ban by @Lucius as an alternative to a permanent ban. Because can give me the chance to rebuild the trust I lost. I sincerely hope for an opportunity to learn from this, prove that I can be a responsible member of the community again, and rebuild trust over time. Thank you again for your consideration.
I don't know LoyceV;
I don't know Jollygood;
I don't know Lovesmayfamilies;
I don't know Xal0lex; Lucius, and others that wrote on this thread, yet I know them. Their account is their identity here, their usernames represent them forever in this community. This means, you are the one that plagiarized. Assuming it was a scam, you are the scammer. Assuming the forum is giving $1k worth of BTC to every forum user, you wouldn't have created this post to say that you aren't the one using your account.
Don't you think why o_e_l_e_o didn't give his account to someone else to be earning the least 100 bucks weekly, or are there no poor people in his place?
I don't blame you for giving your financial needy friend your account to earn, I only blame you for not following him up to know the kind of activity he is doing with your identity.
If there's a place for leniency, signature ban fit there. Goodluck!
I don't know Jollygood;
I don't know Lovesmayfamilies;
I don't know Xal0lex; Lucius, and others that wrote on this thread, yet I know them. Their account is their identity here, their usernames represent them forever in this community. This means, you are the one that plagiarized. Assuming it was a scam, you are the scammer. Assuming the forum is giving $1k worth of BTC to every forum user, you wouldn't have created this post to say that you aren't the one using your account.
Don't you think why o_e_l_e_o didn't give his account to someone else to be earning the least 100 bucks weekly, or are there no poor people in his place?
I don't blame you for giving your financial needy friend your account to earn, I only blame you for not following him up to know the kind of activity he is doing with your identity.
If there's a place for leniency, signature ban fit there. Goodluck!
Thank you for your comment and for sharing your perspective. I completely understand your point about how an account represents a person’s identity in this community, and I deeply regret my mistake in not protecting mine as I should have. I didn’t fully think through the consequences of my actions at the time, and I recognize now how irresponsible it was to let someone else use my account, even with good intentions.
Wow I really don't know what to say.
It seems the account wasn't really important to lend to a friend.
This still falls under "account changing hands "
I can say you really didn't think this true
What about if your friend shared a malicious malware without knowing? Or shared an information that was misleading?
Imagine a DT or reputable member giving their account to a friend for sometime
The catastrophe that will occur.
Success on your appeal, if there's no punishment it would encourage others to do the same or use as an excuse to escape their faults.
It seems the account wasn't really important to lend to a friend.
This still falls under "account changing hands "
I can say you really didn't think this true
What about if your friend shared a malicious malware without knowing? Or shared an information that was misleading?
Imagine a DT or reputable member giving their account to a friend for sometime
The catastrophe that will occur.
Success on your appeal, if there's no punishment it would encourage others to do the same or use as an excuse to escape their faults.
You’re absolutely right. I didn’t think it through at the time, and I regret my action deeply. Looking back, I realize how irresponsible it was to allow someone else to use my account, even if my intentions were to help a friend. I failed to consider the potential risks, such as the ones you mentioned, and how my actions could impact the integrity and trust of the community.
I completely understand why such actions can't be taken lightly and how allowing leniency in cases like mine might set a bad precedent. I take full responsibility for my mistake and have learned a valuable lesson from this experience.
There is another account I suspect which is changed hand. I will need to check a few of my campaign sheets to find the username but I don't want to do it too because I am only suspecting and I can not give concrete evidences.
If I remember then I accepted and removed the user from my campaigns several time. My impression was that he used to make good posts but in the last few months or a year the account is posting garbage and it feels like he does not have any quality to make good posts too. I was wondering what could be the case? I can relate it now with at least something like account was given to a friend and the friend does not have any idea what to do but to spam for earning money.
If I remember then I accepted and removed the user from my campaigns several time. My impression was that he used to make good posts but in the last few months or a year the account is posting garbage and it feels like he does not have any quality to make good posts too. I was wondering what could be the case? I can relate it now with at least something like account was given to a friend and the friend does not have any idea what to do but to spam for earning money.
I understand how it might appear that my account was 'changed hands' in the way you describe, and I take full responsibility for the actions taken under my account. However, I want to emphasize that I didn’t ‘sell’ or permanently give my account to anyone. My intention, albeit misguided, was to help a friend in financial need by allowing them to use my account temporarily.
I have only one question for you mate! WHY?
You are big enough to know what your account represents, don't you. And you just gave it to one of your friend? That easily? Wow.
I'm sure you had good intension for your friend. You could have supported him financially by other means. But instead you choose to lend him your account. It's like giving a child a car to drive, accident was imminent. Big mistake from your side.
Lets see whether the administrator hears your appeal.
You are big enough to know what your account represents, don't you. And you just gave it to one of your friend? That easily? Wow.
I'm sure you had good intension for your friend. You could have supported him financially by other means. But instead you choose to lend him your account. It's like giving a child a car to drive, accident was imminent. Big mistake from your side.
Lets see whether the administrator hears your appeal.
Honestly, looking back, I keep asking myself the same question: why? At the time, I truly believed I was helping a friend in need. My intentions were good, but I completely understand now that I chose the wrong way to go about it.
I hope Theymos and other mods consider my appeal.
I even remember a case (but not the username) where someone was unbanned because the plagiarism happened before he bought the account, and then was loaded with negative feedback for buying the account.
I didn't wanna say anything on this thread, but this?? How on earth am i not able to react with a laughing emoji on this?? Aye Theymos!!! do something !!
So basically, Hades too him and gave him a place in the afterlife, but the chains were broken and the dungeons were cracked opened and he was set lose, only to be made to drag with him a 500lbs plough head? Bahahahaha!!!
Seriously buddy, I feel the pain...I remember reading a post on the first page or so, and someone said they confirmed this was true.... I believe your story, but you made the wrong choice. If justice will be tempered with mercy, you may get a signature ban.
I completely agree that I made the wrong choice.
I truly regret the decision I made and the impact it may have had on the community. I hope for the chance to prove that I can be a trustworthy member of this forum again. Moving forward. If a temporary signature ban is the outcome, I’ll take it as a fair consequence and a valuable lesson.
Thank you for believing my story, even though I know it might sound hard to accept, it means a lot.
The rules of the forum must be respected as the rules of life must be respected, therefore I believe that the decision must be the administrator's and whatever the decision is you must accept it.
But I want to say my piece, you gave your account to a friend of yours to make him earn something and this could be a noble gesture, but to me it seems more like a joke because in the end you would have had a convenience, earning without making an effort and paying for the services to your friend. let's face it everything was convenient for both you and your friend. but you did not take into account all the work that the users of this forum do to keep everything in order, to the manager of the signature who was cheated by you, therefore I believe that a punishment is due to you regardless. I am not a judge but it will be up to someone to judge your excuses that even if noble are not strong enough to get you a pardon.
But I want to say my piece, you gave your account to a friend of yours to make him earn something and this could be a noble gesture, but to me it seems more like a joke because in the end you would have had a convenience, earning without making an effort and paying for the services to your friend. let's face it everything was convenient for both you and your friend. but you did not take into account all the work that the users of this forum do to keep everything in order, to the manager of the signature who was cheated by you, therefore I believe that a punishment is due to you regardless. I am not a judge but it will be up to someone to judge your excuses that even if noble are not strong enough to get you a pardon.
Thank you for sharing. I regret not respecting them as I should have. I take full responsibility for my actions, and whatever decision the administrator makes, I will accept it.
At the time, my intention was to help a friend in need, but I can see how my action might come across as self-damaging.
This has been a valuable, though painful, lesson for me, and I deeply regret it.
"The end doesn't justify the means."
A quote that's applicable to you OP. I know that you just want to help your friend, but you did it the wrong way, and even though you are doing a good thing, you're doing it in an unethical way hence, banning your account. Sometimes, we only feel regret when we experienced the worst thing possible, and with this one, it's a permaban.Let's say they will unban you OP, what about those who got banned for plagiarizing then? There's another way for you to help your friend, and that's through donating the money that you've earned, and not through this one.
The intentions are there. The empathy is there, but you did it in an unethical way. You said that you've regretted it, and I guess you just need to live with it. Hoping for the best for you OP, but like what others said, you deserve the ban.
A quote that's applicable to you OP. I know that you just want to help your friend, but you did it the wrong way, and even though you are doing a good thing, you're doing it in an unethical way hence, banning your account. Sometimes, we only feel regret when we experienced the worst thing possible, and with this one, it's a permaban.Let's say they will unban you OP, what about those who got banned for plagiarizing then? There's another way for you to help your friend, and that's through donating the money that you've earned, and not through this one.
The intentions are there. The empathy is there, but you did it in an unethical way. You said that you've regretted it, and I guess you just need to live with it. Hoping for the best for you OP, but like what others said, you deserve the ban.
Thank you for understanding the case,
I know I did it in the wrong way but that's my mistake my mistake was never plagiarizing since I never did it in the past. That's why I ask you to reconsider the decision. I know I could give him the money but I wanted to help him have income and work for the money he earns but I didn't know he would plagiarize and put in danger.
I just let him use it to help his family with a small income. I had good intentions to help a friend
While doing this, you didn't consider the forum, and now you suffer the consequences. There's a reason Newbies can't advertise signatures, and you let a Newbie without any knowledge run wild.Thank you for your honest feedback. You’re absolutely right, I didn’t fully consider the potential consequences for the forum when I made that poor decision, and I deeply regret it now. My intention was only to help someone in need.
You could have used your account yourself, earn yourself and then help your friend but you didn’t. It is pretty stupid to let some other person access your account.
Sometimes you have good intentions in your mind but you don't know the way and you made the wrong move. I know I could give him money but I never wanted to 'donate' anything I wanted to help work for what he got.
There is a long story behind this case but I even tried to give him a job in real life and he failed. But still, the decision I made was not good regardless of the intentions I had.
OP, your behavior reminds me of the behavior of my children who, if they do something, point their fingers at each other and say, "It's not my fault; it's him."
I never said "It's not my fault", I repeat here It was my fault for giving someone access to my account and I'm sorry for it which could even make everything worse if he asked for money in the forum or scammed people. I completely understand and am deeply sorry for doing this.
Imagine the situation of handing over a car to someone who doesn't have a license, or entrusting a doctor's operation to a mechanic. Of course, these analogies should not be taken seriously. However, for some users, participation in the forum will be one of their only earnings. This cannot be said about you if you do not value your account and do not take care of the words that people take for yours.
Thank you for your good example, if you give your car to someone and he kills a man, you are not the murderer but still you are guilty of giving your car to other people. I confess I made a mistake and I'm sorry for it but I never plagiarized.
Did you deliberately ignore Lucius's offer to suspend your participation in signature companies for two years without responding?
No, didn't ignore Lucius's offer, but he said 'You rent account' which is wrong and I noted that, because I never wanted to take advantage.
Start by recognizing that you did not respect the community and decided to deceive it. Then, consider whether people should respect you for spitting on the rules and deceiving everyone.
I deeply regret my mistake and the way it may have appeared as though I was deceiving the community. That was never my intention, but I recognize that my actions spoke otherwise.
But I hope to have the opportunity to earn back the trust of this community through accountability and better actions in the future
The fact that you handed over your account to someone means that you no longer needed it, otherwise there are so many things that person could have used your account for such as sharing phishing links, scamming users (Loan scams) etc
It was a mistake from your part. In fact, I am a bit disappointed since you used to burst some scams at one point. Maybe it's just time to let it go.
It was a mistake from your part. In fact, I am a bit disappointed since you used to burst some scams at one point. Maybe it's just time to let it go.
You're absolutely right. it was a serious mistake on my part, and I deeply regret my actions. I had good intentions to help a friend but didn't choose the right way and that's how I damaged myself.
I deeply regret disappointing those who saw me as someone who stood against scams in the past. That’s something I’m proud of, and I never wanted to jeopardize that reputation. I still had the same thoughts but the way I wanted to help people was wrong.
The PM links have no context - it's just "post here so I can get signature money".
I wish we could ban everyone who just posts for $ and nothing else, but I'll start with not opposing this ban.
Yay BCT!
I wish we could ban everyone who just posts for $ and nothing else, but I'll start with not opposing this ban.
Yay BCT!
Thank you for your feedback. I completely understand how my actions may have come across and I deeply regret the way things unfolded. But I never said, "Post here so I can get signature money". In fact, I never wanted to take anything for myself as I explained above clearly. There is no reason to put myself in danger for it.
In short. I never cease to be amazed at the things I read around here. I mean, you supposedly left the account to a friend, the friend plagiarized, and now what do you want? Your account back? But are you going to hand it back to a friend or what?
I wouldn't be surprised if you got it back but I don't see any reason to do so.
I wouldn't be surprised if you got it back but I don't see any reason to do so.
I didn't 'leave the account' I just him he could use it because of his situation.
Regardless of the good intentions I have, I'm deeply sorry for it and I will never ever give access to anyone again, I also changed my password.
Although someone who has long since only posted in the Gambling section I doubt very much that he is going to be a priority for the forum.
As far as I know, all member of the forum are same based on their posts there are many posters in the gambling section that should be respected.
When exactly did your "friend" start using your account? And why didn't you explain to him the most common cause of bans before you gave him access to your account?
Hello LoyceV,Thank you for reading my post and nice to see you here.
In fact, I explained to him or at least I tried to do that but he sadly didn't understand...
You've made 2440 posts since you last earned Merit. It's obvious you were just spamming in one of the worst spam campaigns on the forum. You're going to have a hard time doing this:
How did you go from earning 722 Merits in less than 7000 posts to not earning a single Merit in 2400 posts?
If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
How did you go from earning 722 Merits in less than 7000 posts to not earning a single Merit in 2400 posts?
In my defence, my posts are not bad but recently I just posted on the gambling section and since there are many posts in this section it's hard to pay attention to my posts and that's why I didn't get merit recently. I tried to write mosts with enough information. Not all my posts but many of these posts are good enough.
We all make mistakes in life and we all pay for them. Maybe you would have wanted to help your friend, but you would have helped him more by teaching him how to have his own account and how to grow it according to the forum rules, than by giving him access to yours. I'm not going to judge what punishment you deserve since I'm nobody, but you must "give back" something in exchange for your mistake.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Sure we all make mistakes after years in both real life and here. I also said I was deeply sorry for this mistake I made.
but you must "give back" something in exchange for your mistake
"I gave everything" and got permanently banned when I had good intentions to help someone.
When you do stupid things in life, be prepared for the consequences - and I can't say anything other than that it's really stupid to give your BTT account to someone else without first considering that someone will notice that the person behind that account has changed. The way some users of this forum think is incredible, in a negative context of course.
If the admins approve this request, I would recommend a signature ban for 2 years - because when you rent an account to a friend, then you deserve to lose it for a while.
If the admins approve this request, I would recommend a signature ban for 2 years - because when you rent an account to a friend, then you deserve to lose it for a while.
But I didn't 'rent' anything.
I just wanted to help him since he was the only son of his family and had no income( long story). I would never take anything for myself considering his situation.
People who know me here can understand I'm not the guy to abuse or take advantage of people.
Thank you for pointing out that the writing styles, This supports my explanation that the posts in question were not authored by me. However, I repeat I'm aware I made a mistake by sharing my account information and I take responsibility for it.
If you take responsibility for it then you should accept the ban.Think about it, where is the logic if a member plagiarises does get banned yet if the same member gives access to their account to a third party who then plagiarises on their account does not get banned. What message dose that send out to others?
I believe my mistake was to share account information not plagiarise or spam since I never did it before.
Why should I put myself in danger and do plagiarism? Just because I can't write? Then how did it before? Where is the logic?
That's clear I made a mistake, but my mistake was not plagiarism since I didn't do that. I think a permanent ban is too much for this case and I could get a warn because of my case.
I never had a bad purpose and jut wanted to help someone.
As you stated, he could have just sent the campaign funds to him instead. Why would someone happily not accept their campaign payments by giving their account to someone else unless they had another account they could use to either rank up if it was new or capitalise on if it was already enrolled on a campaign? The alternative would have been to complete the quota himself and send the money to his friend.
You are talking about 'another account' and again I repeat, they can check my IP or other things but I never had the time to even create another account. Also. Personally, I'm against having multiple accounts and that's why even this account was named like this and I'm trying to appeal the decision because that's the only account I've been working on for years. Since there is no proof about having multiple accounts there is no reason to create a theory unlike there is enough evidence.
You are right and I could send him the funds instead of letting him control my account, but as I said before I didn't want to give money directly but I wanted to just let him work.
However, it was my mistake because I was doing this to help someone while sometimes you will face consequences even if you have a good cause.
Such an account does not exist on the forum. In any case, I did not find it. There is such an account - "Leviathan.007". Is this the account we're talking about? Is this your account?
Yes it is I had a typo mistake and fixed it
To Whom It May Concern,
I am writing to appeal the recent ban on my account, Leviathan_007, which was flagged for spam/plagiarism today.
First, I take full responsibility for the actions that led to this situation, but I would like to provide some context and request a reconsideration of the decision you made.
I wanted to help a jobless friend to support his family, I allowed him to use my account to make posts and earn a small income for himself and hisfaimly. Unfortunately, I failed to consider the consequences of this decision and I made this mistake. My friend, was unfamiliar with the forum rules and guidelines, and he inadvertently posted plagiarized content.
For over seven years, I have been an active and committed member of this community, contributing without any issues and even helping to combat scams in the past. This ban is particularly disheartening because it does not reflect *my personal* conduct or intentions. I understand now that sharing account access was a serious mistake, regardless of my good intentions and I my othe posts I made bofore.
I sincerely apologize for this. I never intended to violate the rules or harm the integrity of the forum. I deeply regret my actions and have learned my valuable lesson. Moving forward, I promise to strictly adhere to the rules and maintain sole responsibility for my account.
If possible, I kindly request you to review my account history again and then reconsider the permanent ban you made. I have attached a screenshot that shows the moment I provided my account info and explained where my friend should post (on 30th December), as proof of my honest intentions. Also, if you check the posts, the wring style is completely different. I understand the importance of our forum’s standards and will ensure you that such an incident never ever happens again.
Thank you for taking the time to read my appeal. I would greatly appreciate an opportunity to continue contributing to this community.
I am writing to appeal the recent ban on my account, Leviathan_007, which was flagged for spam/plagiarism today.
First, I take full responsibility for the actions that led to this situation, but I would like to provide some context and request a reconsideration of the decision you made.
I wanted to help a jobless friend to support his family, I allowed him to use my account to make posts and earn a small income for himself and hisfaimly. Unfortunately, I failed to consider the consequences of this decision and I made this mistake. My friend, was unfamiliar with the forum rules and guidelines, and he inadvertently posted plagiarized content.
For over seven years, I have been an active and committed member of this community, contributing without any issues and even helping to combat scams in the past. This ban is particularly disheartening because it does not reflect *my personal* conduct or intentions. I understand now that sharing account access was a serious mistake, regardless of my good intentions and I my othe posts I made bofore.
I sincerely apologize for this. I never intended to violate the rules or harm the integrity of the forum. I deeply regret my actions and have learned my valuable lesson. Moving forward, I promise to strictly adhere to the rules and maintain sole responsibility for my account.
If possible, I kindly request you to review my account history again and then reconsider the permanent ban you made. I have attached a screenshot that shows the moment I provided my account info and explained where my friend should post (on 30th December), as proof of my honest intentions. Also, if you check the posts, the wring style is completely different. I understand the importance of our forum’s standards and will ensure you that such an incident never ever happens again.
Thank you for taking the time to read my appeal. I would greatly appreciate an opportunity to continue contributing to this community.