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Re: My First and Last Experience with Betcoin.ag: A Cautionary Tale of Scams and Unf
by
murkyz
on 11/09/2024, 19:17:41 UTC
Technically, you've wasted your one-and-only-one-so-choose-wisely ADR, of which the final ruling is --technically-- in favor of betcoin. But let me try to page Davis later tonight, see if he's willing to consider that attempt with CG as a failed attempt and didn't count it in, thus allowing you to reach AG and they'll be willing to address that matter.

This has been a truly terrible experience. At first, I contacted AskGamblers, and they told me that electronic football doesn't count as sports, so it's not within their service scope.

Can you list everything that you played on the site?
Multiple account users usually get limited because they have an edge on their sportsbook odds providers but I find it very hard to believe that someone has an edge on electroic football o,O
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Re: My First and Last Experience with Betcoin.ag: A Cautionary Tale of Scams and Unf
by
murkyz
on 02/09/2024, 15:59:09 UTC
Additionally, the games I played are relatively niche and are definitely different from the games played by those who are suspected of creating multiple accounts.

This is wrong, people that multi account make them to bet on niche markets because they tend to limit you faster than the big leagues

Do u know exactly what bets did u place on your account?
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Re: My First and Last Experience with Betcoin.ag: A Cautionary Tale of Scams and Unf
by
murkyz
on 01/09/2024, 15:07:32 UTC

Should I raise this issue on AskGamblers or CasinoGuru?

This is your best option, when their representative starts to mock you noone else is gonna help you

Your other option is to contact Gaming Curacao which is their licensor but I would never suggest this, they make mistakes on their narrative and they dont care to find the truth.

I only had a dispute with Malta licensor before due to betsson freezing my account and they were 1000 times better than GC

Anyways gl
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Re: [0.85 BTC / $20K SCAM] Playbetr.com + Betcoin.ag SCAM! Accounts closed, IGNORING
by
murkyz
on 09/07/2024, 07:09:17 UTC
Hello everyone,

I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.

To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.

For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.

They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and  I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.

I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

Good Luck man, They falsely accused me of multiaccounting by showing my binance address transfers to other casinos when binance has a shared pool of address for their clients lol

I lost my case with their licensor when I never multiaccounted but it was only 1.8k$ so I gave up

Hopefully you can get your money back
IT's not a good idea to go through a licensor. Chances are slim to none of winning. CasinoGuru makes strange decisions. They rule against players blindly. AskGamblers and Casinoreviews are the best two places for resolution.

Yea I noticed after they responded that they showed evidence that I used the same "bitcoin" wallet for multiaccounting when I never used bitcoin on their page

I wish I knew before I went to their curacao licensor tbh My previous dispute with a licensor was with malta due to betsson froze my account with 5k$ but I won that dispute so I had confidence but oh well 1.8k$ is nothing in the long run to learn about how curacao licensor works

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Re: Stake.com casino is rigged.
by
murkyz
on 08/07/2024, 22:05:23 UTC
So I was playing crash game. I was betting really small account on martingale. I set up my amount to go till 51 bets. Guess what? Autobet stopped at 51. I lost exact 51 bets straight and it went up on the 52 number bet. How crazy is that?

Thats normal in casinos, you had bad luck
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Re: [0.85 BTC / $20K SCAM] Playbetr.com + Betcoin.ag SCAM! Accounts closed, IGNORING
by
murkyz
on 08/07/2024, 18:24:34 UTC
Hello everyone,

I wanted to provide an update on my ongoing situation with Playbetr and Betcoin. Unfortunately, since my last post, Playbetr has shut down and run off with my money. Despite numerous attempts to resolve the issue, they have consistently made excuses and lied to avoid paying.

To make matters worse, their sister site, Betcoin.ag, which is operated by the same owners, is still in business. I urge everyone to be cautious when dealing with these platforms.

For context, my withdrawal requests—0.65 BTC from Playbetr and 0.21 BTC from Betcoin—were met with account limitations, and eventually, my accounts were blocked without explanation, despite completing KYC verification.

They falsely accused me of fraudulent actions, and  I've been ignored by both sites, despite numerous emails and attempts to reach out through live chat.

I am still seeking a resolution and my rightful payment. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

Good Luck man, They falsely accused me of multiaccounting by showing my binance address transfers to other casinos when binance has a shared pool of address for their clients lol

I lost my case with their licensor when I never multiaccounted but it was only 1.8k$ so I gave up

Hopefully you can get your money back
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Re: Stake.com has permanently closed my account with 17 000 USD in it
by
murkyz
on 16/06/2024, 17:22:17 UTC
Stake confiscated over 1.5M USD from me and its been many months. Your amount is much smaller but based on my experience once they close the account and stop communication it means they've made their final decision about you.

https://i.ibb.co/StdqKjF/withdrqal.png

In my case I was betting on soccer matches and some matches were later discovered to be fixed or manipulated which I did not know about I just follow suspicious bets trackers and follow the money movement to place my bets. Good luck OP, don't forget to post on TrustPilot so that people see your negative experience at least. That's what I did.



On May you post this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494992.msg64020074#msg64020074 , so its impossile that you got confiscated 1.5m a few months ago o,O

Whats confusing for me is that your thread had so many replies and noone notices that theres no way stake offers you a 51% cashout of a parlay when the last leg of the parlay had 3.75 odds
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Re: Betcoin.AG Deleted my account after I TREID to make a withdrawal after winning.
by
murkyz
on 22/05/2024, 23:04:20 UTC
which provide requested an investigation?

betconstruct? lol
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Re: Sportsbet.io - A Case of Selective Withdrawal Approval and Dubious Practices
by
murkyz
on 30/04/2024, 22:29:01 UTC

Theres no way a normal stake account has these limits on nba props

I have used stake and when my account got semilimited my maxbet on props were around 300$ winnings theres absoluty no way that a new fresh account has a 20k$ winnings limit

Is there more background on this guy? Was he a massive loser to get better betting limits?
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Re: Rollbit refuse to pay 9.379$
by
murkyz
on 28/04/2024, 06:11:40 UTC
They'll stop or reduce their marketing campaigns if they're illiquid.

This isn't true I know sportsbook with fiat currency that were illiquid and they would still waste a lot on marketing and slow down payments
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Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted
by
murkyz
on 25/04/2024, 05:16:40 UTC
A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games

Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much
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Re: Following Tipsters -
by
murkyz
on 25/04/2024, 05:01:09 UTC
Paying for a tipster that is only good on low liquid markets is not a good idea

From ur list Marco Cage only place bets on low level basket leagues

Bobic only places bets on low level soccer league

Bookies will limit you fast plus the max bets on these leagues are too low so paying for these doesnt worht it IMO

Unless you can show me a tipster that has atleast 5% roi on a top league like NBA / UFC / MLB / NFL / NCAAF etc . I would pay for that no problem
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Re: Ganar dinero con los casinos? Realidad o ficción?
by
murkyz
on 24/04/2024, 22:25:05 UTC
Te voy a dar una respuesta simple, es imposible ganar dinero a largo plazo con slots. PERO, si existe una posibilidad de hacerlo con apuestas deportivas, y te cuento mi estrategia.



Adjunto codigo de javascript, podes ejecutarlo en runjs o cualquier ambiente que te permita utilizar javascript :

function calcularProbabilidad(noDeIntentos, multiplicador) {
   
    var probabilidadDeExito = (100-multiplicador) / 100;
    var probabilidadFinal = Math.pow(probabilidadDeExito, noDeIntentos);
    return probabilidadFinal;
}

function interesCompuestoAlvarriti(valor, multiplicador, cantidad) {
    let resultado = valor;
    let total = 0;
    for (let i = 0; i < cantidad; i++) {
        resultado *= (1 + multiplicador / 100);
        total += resultado;
        // Verificar si la iteración actual es una de las especificadas
            console.log(`${(i + 1)}) ${resultado.toLocaleString('en-us')} (%${calcularProbabilidad(i, multiplicador).toLocaleString('en-us')}) `);
    }
   
    return {
        resultado: resultado,
        total: total.toLocaleString('en-us')
    };
}

interesCompuestoAlvarriti(100,15,50);


En el ejemplo, se utilizan 50 veces una apuesta de 100 dolares, con 15% de margen , es decir cuota de 1.15, nada dificil para un partido de futbol o tenis.

al cabo de 50 apuestas, sumando capital + las ganancias previas , terminas con un saldo de $108.635


Esta es la unica forma real de ganar dinero y es comprobando, se puede hacer facilmente 10x del capital original.

No obstante, siempre se puede perder, por ende no apuestes , pero si aun asi decidis apostar, hacelo de forma inteligente, cuando estes en profit , retira tu capital inicial y segui con el dinero del casino.

Llevo desde 2018 con roi positivo en apuestas deportivas y desde el 2020 solo en mercados likidos y te puedo asegurar que es semi imposible ganar a estas cuotas, solo e conocido a 1 persona con roi positivo a cuotas/odds bajas pero es en la liga peruana de futbol

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Re: Betcoin.ag scam
by
murkyz
on 24/04/2024, 21:26:45 UTC
-SNIP

Imagine being so guilty that the only thing you can dwell on is a typo, to try and misdirect from everything else that has happened. You have been caught lying in this thread multiple times. You lost multiple mediation attempts. Lock this thread. It's over.

You are the one that got caught lying on this thread

-I lost one mediation by a licensor that cant see the difference between a bitcoin wallet and a litecoin wallet

-I have shown my transactions that I never used betcoin on October 2023 but the licensor/representative never gave me any evidence that I did

-The representive lied by saying that my account had USDT transactions available, when I shown evidence he refused to give an answer

-Be careful by using betcoin.ag as you can see in my thread their licensor will make "typos" and ignore your emails.

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Re: Betcoin.ag scam
by
murkyz
on 24/04/2024, 21:03:24 UTC
-SNIP

scam
noun
a dishonest scheme; a fraud.

That is what you tried to do to us, by fraudulently pretending to be a different person when you created the 2nd account. This was proven when 2 different mediators rejected your case. All we did was enforce the rules you agreed to when you signed up.

the mediator didnt even look at your proof lol

the licensor mentioned that I used the same "bitcoin" wallet when I have shown evidence that my betcoin account had only litecoin transactions. This is a big mistake on their part and it shows that they are not serious at all

I guess 19 ltc is the price to learn how GC operates
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Re: Betcoin.ag scam
by
murkyz
on 24/04/2024, 20:41:59 UTC

I chose betcoin because of the nba props offered by your sportbook



Both of those cases resulted in the players receiving payment


You scammed the winnings of the first guy , the only difference is that you scammed all my funds
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Re: Betcoin.ag scam
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murkyz
on 24/04/2024, 20:14:56 UTC

if we held the funds of everyone who won $1400.

Its not about the amount tho, one recreational player can win 100k$ by luck in the sportsbook and you should keep them if he won doing -ev stuff like placing underdog accas on high liquit markets


You think maybe that would've come out at some point during the 11 years we have been in business?

Idk it seems like it happened before o,O just by looking at the threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456682.msg62437358#msg62437358

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439834.0


Books can work 10+ years and still selective scam people like 1xbet tbh and nothing will change

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Re: Betcoin.ag scam
by
murkyz
on 24/04/2024, 19:38:56 UTC
IMO their book only aims to keep recreational players

We had no issue paying you out on your first account. That's why you came back, of course, and that's why we have to be firm on the additional ones.

As I showed my wallet transactions I never used betcoin on October 2023, I never go back to books that I have been limited thats why I tried betcoin in the first place. If I were multi accounting I would stay with the same books lol




and more concerned about no one taking your action

Soft books dont like winning players so they limit good players, actually I would be more concerned if all books take my action that means im actually bad at placing bets


Betcoin has more satisfied users each day, many of who win without having to cheat and are paid immediately.

I highly doubt you have any sharp as your client, If someone beats you, you would accuse of cheating and hold their funds


Most of your playerbase should be recreational gamblers that just play for fun
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Re: Betcoin.ag scam
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murkyz
on 24/04/2024, 19:08:17 UTC

I don't think GC don't have any clue at what they're looking at, I'll say it's safe to say that they've had experience with thousands of cases like this.

If they know what they are looking at why would they say that I used the same "bitcoin wallet" when my thread shows that my betcoin account only used litecoin



Interesting thing though, you're limited on other casino for... what reason?

As a winning player its commong being limited by soft books, I had like 7% roi on regular nba props this season, the only books that dont limit winning players are pinnacle and exchanges
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Re: Betcoin.ag scam
by
murkyz
on 23/04/2024, 20:42:08 UTC
Im suprised by GC's answer tbh

They said Betcoin linked me to another account that was limited by their sportsbook provider for placing bets using banned technology on October 2023. They said I used the same ip/device and used the same BITCOIN wallet
to fund the accounts

This is actually imposible. Im new to the crypto world and I only used Binance as my wallet for all my crypto sportsbooks

On October 2023 I only have transactions in my binance account to stake and sportsbetting/betonline wallets:

https://ibb.co/Dfvcp2V

And you can see in this thread that I only used LTC on my betcoin account, I stopped using bitcoin due to altcoins having less fees and their transaction are fasters

I read about Betcoin in 2024, I looked them at first then I finally signed up on March due to being limited on other sportsbook so I was going to try it to see if they are legit

heres my betcoin deposits:

https://ibb.co/KrLZ6MH

I dont know what else to show as a proof that I never used betcoin on 2023 o,O I cant believe that my ip/device is linked to another account


The fact that GC said "bitcoin" wallet makes me think that they have no clue at what they are looking at and I believe I got scammed by betcoin

Is there anything else I can show as a proof that I never used betcoin before this year?