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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
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mww
on 03/02/2014, 20:53:19 UTC

Use reddit to build audiences within reddit. Don't use it for anything else. reddit is perfect for awareness and brand campaigns when all you want to do is spread awareness and build a community inside reddit. But for anything else, its a massive waste of time. Reddit's userbase is similar to facebook's in that user's are not in a correct state of mind to effectively push a product.

My advice would be to start up a small test campaign, target some of the bitcoin related subreddits and have the ad clickthrough to the NXT subreddit. The only issue with this is the NXT subreddit has very little information and will fail in engaging the user, so before any money is pumped into this, it is important the NXT subreddit actually contains enough information for the consumer to keep them there, and to make them want to come back.

Honestly, i wouldn't push anymore than the above. from an advertisers prospective, reddits advertising is not suited for anything other than building communities inside of reddit. Anything else usually ends up as a leakage of funds that could be spent better elsewhere.

Anyways, i've got a lunch with condenast either friday or monday, ill have to check my diary, but yeh, i'll ask them what they think, chances are they will just agree with me but i will see, they might have some new innovative features that could help us target/track.


@mww:  I encourage you to read the 25 pages of the marketing thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.0 .  There is a proposal to divert 3,000,000 NXT currently worth $210,000 to marketing efforts in 2014, and that is on top of existing funds allocated for NXT marketing.  PM Salsacz for those figures.  The total available to support any NXT efforts you get involved in is probably over a quarter million dollars.  

Oh, you might post a request over there or PM Salsacz or landomata to see the master consolidated NXT marketing plan.  Most quarter-million dollar ad budgets are required to have a master consolidated marketing plan before spending a single dime of money, right?  Isn't that how they do it in your top 4 marketing company?

I'll get reading in a bit and give my 2 cents.

We have full plans which usually split the brand's advertising up into different mediums. in this plan the budget is set and a general overview of how the campaign is going to be delivered, through what mediums, is presented. Then we have the individual media plans which focus on a particular medium, for example, the digital plans contain a list of sites such as yahoo, aol, facebook ect how much we will spend on each site, how much inventory we expect to get, the dates the activity is running, the metric we will be the gauging the effectiveness of the activity on and what metric the publisher will be basing there reportings on (eg CTR, CPE, CPS ect)

So yeah, very similar. FYI, i work in the UK so our regulations might be slightly different but we don't legally have to provide a full plan, or an individual one. But without these plans our clients would never know how there money was spent. also, it helps allot when keeping track of what activity you have paid for and giving a general overview of what is going to happen across different companies. So yeh, not a legal requirement overhere, but you'd be pretty crazy not to do one just to give everyone involved a fixed overview of what is taking place, especially when dealing with multiple publishers across multiple mediums.

Thanks,
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 20:31:45 UTC
Dude, I am hereby officially nominating you for membership on the NXT marketing committee if you want the slot.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=445209.msg4917173#msg4917173

Oh, that's a good idea, +1

I'd be more than happy to contribute as much as i can, atleast for a year or so, i see a huge future for NXT, a future i would be proud to be apart of.




However, if James directs this, then I will disburse as authorized.  Like he has for this 75K NXT for crazy-expensive $75 CPM audio spots over in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.new#new
Just for the record, your math is wrong, so anyone who agrees on this assumption, should make his own calculations first

It's a fact that James has authorized 75K NXT and I will be disbursing that later today as directed.

I understood that the audio spots were twice weekly for three months reaching an audience of 10,000 and were funded at a level of 275K NXT when NXT was priced at 0.07 USD each given the current Bitcoin price.  That's 275,000 * 0.07 = $19,250 for 13 weeks * twice weekly * 10,000 people = 260,000 impressions for a CPM of 19250/260 = $74.03.  I rounded to $75 for sake of an even number to use in discussion.
because in previous text you were counting only on 13 spots and not 26. But you must add many important things - if we didn't book it in couple of hours, ethereum would have bought that minute. Then, there is a difference between listeners of LTB and any other ordinary visitors of websites etc. Listeners of LTB have big influence on other people (journalists...) - those listeners can speak directly to the celebrities/important people, listeners of LTB are experts, advisors with huge power

Hi Guys,

By night i'm usually ranting on this forum and asking silly questions, but by day i'm the lead digital analyst for one of the big 4 marketing communications companies.

Anyways, you guys are getting absolutely extorted. This CPM is off the roof; i've never actually seen a CPM this high when dealing with radio. I'll get in contact with my radio team tomorrow morning, but at the moment, unless i've missed some sort of targeting, i really cant see why you are paying so much.

If your dealing with any sort of advertising please contact me, i have access to pretty much the entire industry and know a good deal when i see one. I also have a team of 6 other analysts whos job it is to find out whatever i want to know across the other major mediums.

I'd be more than happy to assist for free as i see NXT's potential.

Please shoot me a PM with what i can help with, or if you just want to run by any advertising opportunities.

What are your thoughts on targeted Reddit ads?

Use reddit to build audiences within reddit. Don't use it for anything else. reddit is perfect for awareness and brand campaigns when all you want to do is spread awareness and build a community inside reddit. But for anything else, its a massive waste of time. Reddit's userbase is similar to facebook's in that user's are not in a correct state of mind to effectively push a product.

My advice would be to start up a small test campaign, target some of the bitcoin related subreddits and have the ad clickthrough to the NXT subreddit. The only issue with this is the NXT subreddit has very little information and will fail in engaging the user, so before any money is pumped into this, it is important the NXT subreddit actually contains enough information for the consumer to keep them there, and to make them want to come back.

Honestly, i wouldn't push anymore than the above. from an advertisers prospective, reddits advertising is not suited for anything other than building communities inside of reddit. Anything else usually ends up as a leakage of funds that could be spent better elsewhere.

Anyways, i've got a lunch with condenast either friday or monday, ill have to check my diary, but yeh, i'll ask them what they think, chances are they will just agree with me but i will see, they might have some new innovative features that could help us target/track.

Thanks,



Thanks for the reply and it's great to have you as part of the community! When you get a chance I'd love to get your take on the continuing discussion regarding marketing vs. tech development. Basically, the questions revolve around funding levels, where to spend marketing dollars, and how important it is to have the tech be "idiot proof" before a major marketing campaign begins. Thanks.

Thanks for the warm words. Is there already a thread for this? if not, do you know roughly what page the discussion starts?
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Re: [NXT] Community nominations to the funding comittee
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 20:14:49 UTC
I hereby officially nominate mww to be a member of the Marketing Committee.   In his day job he is the lead digital analyst for one of the big 4 marketing communications companies.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4916954#msg4916954

I'd be more than happy to do this. While i'm new to the community, my knowledge of digital and non-digital advertising would prove a big asset for a start-up project like this.

Feel free to fire any questions at me

Thanks,

So he says?

I would happily verify my standings within my company with a few trusted members of the community. but my identity has to stay somewhat hidden as it is against my contract to preform any outside work relating to digital advertising while i'm still working for my agency, so full disclosure of my personal information(name, address, ect) is a no-no until i leave my job june-july time.

But as i said in the other post, i believe in NXT and would be very proud to assist, especially as i have a very large amount of my savings currently invested.

Thanks,

edit: im going to check with my HR people tomorrow.
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 19:53:45 UTC
Dude, I am hereby officially nominating you for membership on the NXT marketing committee if you want the slot.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=445209.msg4917173#msg4917173

Oh, that's a good idea, +1

I'd be more than happy to contribute as much as i can, atleast for a year or so, i see a huge future for NXT, a future i would be proud to be apart of.




However, if James directs this, then I will disburse as authorized.  Like he has for this 75K NXT for crazy-expensive $75 CPM audio spots over in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.new#new
Just for the record, your math is wrong, so anyone who agrees on this assumption, should make his own calculations first

It's a fact that James has authorized 75K NXT and I will be disbursing that later today as directed.

I understood that the audio spots were twice weekly for three months reaching an audience of 10,000 and were funded at a level of 275K NXT when NXT was priced at 0.07 USD each given the current Bitcoin price.  That's 275,000 * 0.07 = $19,250 for 13 weeks * twice weekly * 10,000 people = 260,000 impressions for a CPM of 19250/260 = $74.03.  I rounded to $75 for sake of an even number to use in discussion.
because in previous text you were counting only on 13 spots and not 26. But you must add many important things - if we didn't book it in couple of hours, ethereum would have bought that minute. Then, there is a difference between listeners of LTB and any other ordinary visitors of websites etc. Listeners of LTB have big influence on other people (journalists...) - those listeners can speak directly to the celebrities/important people, listeners of LTB are experts, advisors with huge power

Hi Guys,

By night i'm usually ranting on this forum and asking silly questions, but by day i'm the lead digital analyst for one of the big 4 marketing communications companies.

Anyways, you guys are getting absolutely extorted. This CPM is off the roof; i've never actually seen a CPM this high when dealing with radio. I'll get in contact with my radio team tomorrow morning, but at the moment, unless i've missed some sort of targeting, i really cant see why you are paying so much.

If your dealing with any sort of advertising please contact me, i have access to pretty much the entire industry and know a good deal when i see one. I also have a team of 6 other analysts whos job it is to find out whatever i want to know across the other major mediums.

I'd be more than happy to assist for free as i see NXT's potential.

Please shoot me a PM with what i can help with, or if you just want to run by any advertising opportunities.

What are your thoughts on targeted Reddit ads?

Use reddit to build audiences within reddit. Don't use it for anything else. reddit is perfect for awareness and brand campaigns when all you want to do is spread awareness and build a community inside reddit. But for anything else, its a massive waste of time. Reddit's userbase is similar to facebook's in that user's are not in a correct state of mind to effectively push a product.

My advice would be to start up a small test campaign, target some of the bitcoin related subreddits and have the ad clickthrough to the NXT subreddit. The only issue with this is the NXT subreddit has very little information and will fail in engaging the user, so before any money is pumped into this, it is important the NXT subreddit actually contains enough information for the consumer to keep them there, and to make them want to come back.

Honestly, i wouldn't push anymore than the above. from an advertisers prospective, reddits advertising is not suited for anything other than building communities inside of reddit. Anything else usually ends up as a leakage of funds that could be spent better elsewhere.

Anyways, i've got a lunch with condenast either friday or monday, ill have to check my diary, but yeh, i'll ask them what they think, chances are they will just agree with me but i will see, they might have some new innovative features that could help us target/track.

Thanks,
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 18:58:44 UTC

However, if James directs this, then I will disburse as authorized.  Like he has for this 75K NXT for crazy-expensive $75 CPM audio spots over in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.new#new
Just for the record, your math is wrong, so anyone who agrees on this assumption, should make his own calculations first

It's a fact that James has authorized 75K NXT and I will be disbursing that later today as directed.

I understood that the audio spots were twice weekly for three months reaching an audience of 10,000 and were funded at a level of 275K NXT when NXT was priced at 0.07 USD each given the current Bitcoin price.  That's 275,000 * 0.07 = $19,250 for 13 weeks * twice weekly * 10,000 people = 260,000 impressions for a CPM of 19250/260 = $74.03.  I rounded to $75 for sake of an even number to use in discussion.
because in previous text you were counting only on 13 spots and not 26. But you must add many important things - if we didn't book it in couple of hours, ethereum would have bought that minute. Then, there is a difference between listeners of LTB and any other ordinary visitors of websites etc. Listeners of LTB have big influence on other people (journalists...) - those listeners can speak directly to the celebrities/important people, listeners of LTB are experts, advisors with huge power

Hi Guys,

By night i'm usually ranting on this forum and asking silly questions, but by day i'm the lead digital analyst for one of the big 4 marketing communications companies.

Anyways, you guys are getting absolutely extorted. This CPM is off the roof; i've never actually seen a CPM this high when dealing with radio. I'll get in contact with my radio team tomorrow morning, but at the moment, unless i've missed some sort of targeting, i really cant see why you are paying so much.

If your dealing with any sort of advertising please contact me, i have access to pretty much the entire industry and know a good deal when i see one. I also have a team of 6 other analysts whos job it is to find out whatever i want to know across the other major mediums.

I'd be more than happy to assist for free as i see NXT's potential.

Please shoot me a PM with what i can help with, or if you just want to run by any advertising opportunities.
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 16:58:50 UTC
You mentioned before you hoped to implement parallel blockchains by April.  What are these and are they still in the April release?

Looks like I won't have them ready by April. Parallel Chains is just another way to store data.

looks like nothing will be ready by April, any ne want to bet.

I'll take that bet. also, do you even dump?
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 16:11:17 UTC
can we pls speed up Service providers....how much would it cost to implement this feature?

Asset Exchange, Voting System and Account Control r the only things that r planned to be released by April.

no decentralised exchange?

do you happen to have a roadmap/to-do list that gives the expected dates of completion for each of the different features?
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Re: BTC-E.com exchange - BTC/NMC/LTC/NVC/TRC/PPC/FTC/XPM - USD\EUR\RUR (fee - 0.2%)
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 13:06:59 UTC
Add: Megacoin, Worldcoin & Quarkcoin please.

no plans

do you have any plans to add any new coins in the immediate future?

Thanks,
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Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 220 TH/s
by
mww
on 03/02/2014, 12:29:11 UTC
Cryptx any update from both Cointerra and Bitmine ?

+1

This just screams amateur operation. CryptX, your running well behind on schedule which is understandable, but ignoring your investors at a time like this just shows that your not ready for a business of this size.


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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 31/01/2014, 13:14:26 UTC
I made a withdrawal from DGEX, and not only do those asses take a 1.4% withdrawal fee, it's now been a few days and I still haven't seen my money. It took them two days to approach me by mail - the one I signed up with - and they're asking me to deposit more money to prove my identity. Two more days have passed since, a day since the last communication.

What the fuck? What a terrible exchange.


There's a notice that your account might be locked and put under investigation if you (or someone else) is trying to send money to a new account. I feel safe with such rules.

I dont feel save when someone keeps my money for "investigation"
better use BTER = professionals

Well, 2 step authorisation is better, but we have what we have. Since Dgex doesn't have 2SA it'll be better if they at least look for withdrawal addresses.

is not my problem.
I prefer use professional services, like BTER.
To sum up,DGEX is shit.

thousends of people "investigated" ..keeping their money for weeks... wtf..  i will stay away from this shit

apart from the extortionate fees that are killing it, DGEX is fine. ive transferred allot in and out and never had a single problem. i suggest you use the BTC instant withdrawal.
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Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 220 TH/s
by
mww
on 31/01/2014, 11:27:57 UTC
...understood: but CEX.io does represent expectations of future revenue from ghs... ergo the new überminers make the price drop... good indication the miner community sees the arrival as imminent... expect to see ghs/btc in the high .020's soon


Cex.io is a market based commodity. If the new hashing power brought on by cex was actually driving the price down, we would see much lower prices already. But cex brings new power on priced at the average price at the time so as not to upset the market. GHS is not IMO something that should be price regulated by a market. I would like to see a company selling GHS at an ever decreasing rate as their cost per GHS drops. With perhaps a small side market for p2p sales for times when the company has run out of GHS for the moment, but with the majority of GHS being purchased from the company hosting said GHS.

You are mistaken to make any assumptions or decisions based on what cex is trading GHS for. The people/bots trading GHS on cex are out to make a profit buying low and selling high. This is in stark contradiction to supply/demand and moores law. They are not buying and holding looking to make profit via mining, if the majority were then the price would be pushed down with each subsequent jump in difficulty.

I had a ton of GHS with CEX, but when I read about petamine I cashed out 95% of them and bought shares. Pyramining, petamine, cognitive, etc are the places to be invested in, rather than buying from overpriced cloud mining "services" or even trying to run your own hardware at quantities needed to make a profit.

As more people buy the new ASIC's the price will be driven down. The only reason its not going down now is because the people who already have the new ASIC's still have a distinct advantage over the competition. that advantage will ware off in the coming weeks as delivery is ramped up
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 30/01/2014, 13:52:20 UTC
Any UK Nxt holders? We need to position ourselves to get on Bittylicious to increase liquidity. The ability to purchase Nxt without Bitcoin is a big deal and one we should put some energy towards.

I'd be willing to do this. How is the price set? my main concern is that i don't want to be stuck selling at a lower price than the market rate if the price shoots up. if there's a way around this then i'd be more than happy to contribute.

You should expect getting much higher rates when dealing directly with Fiat!   Wink

agreed, but similar rates when buying back in arn't easy, unless anyone knows of a better service in the UK than localbitcoins.com?
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 30/01/2014, 13:40:42 UTC
Any UK Nxt holders? We need to position ourselves to get on Bittylicious to increase liquidity. The ability to purchase Nxt without Bitcoin is a big deal and one we should put some energy towards.

I'd be willing to do this. How is the price set? my main concern is that i don't want to be stuck selling at a lower price than the market rate if the price shoots up. if there's a way around this then i'd be more than happy to contribute.
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Re: I have 10 BTC. I want to invest! but where?
by
mww
on 30/01/2014, 11:21:56 UTC
wmr,

It its best you diversify your investment to spread risk and increase opportunity. Potentially keep half or a third in BTC and hold. Then diversify with a low risk and a higher risk investment.

Im with monkeybear on PETA, they have conservative estimates matched with a proven team and already secured orders. As low risk securities investments with high dividends, this seems like the best.

Also, next generation cryptocurrency will have there time to shine soon. Things like NXT, eMunie and Etherium have distinct advantages over BTC, and if one of them isn't ten times its current value this time next year then i will eat my hat.

Its important you do your own research, there are many sub forums on this forum, check them all out, allot of people have there own opinions, its important you make your own! maybe you'll spot the next big thing everyone is missing.

Good luck!





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Re: [ANN][NINTEN] nintencoin "coin to paradise" [コイン楽園へ]
by
mww
on 30/01/2014, 10:37:10 UTC
I've got a great feeling about this coin aslong as there is no prepump. Should be really easy to get on the exchanges.
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Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 220 TH/s
by
mww
on 30/01/2014, 10:25:56 UTC
when can we expect a dividend to appear on havelock?

i'm really looking forward to seeing what the ~% annual yield will be

Maybe a week after we start hashing?  I'm guessing we will see our first dividend on Feb. 7th.  And the annual yield will be way off until the other half of the equipment arrives.

Any reason why you think they will start hashing without all the equipment? i thought they would wait until full delivery before launch?

CryptX, i have allot of funds invested into this company, could you please give us an update on where we are at? this lack of communication is completely unacceptable

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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 29/01/2014, 11:27:28 UTC
any update on when we will see your client?

What the point to use another BTT account?

This is my first BTT account. I signed up just to give lophie an ear-full.
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 29/01/2014, 11:20:24 UTC
This is not a get rich quick scheme, This is the history of decenteralized payment systems in the making, That includes etherium and other coins, want pump and dumps? This is not one sorry, So let the big boys discuss code and math and get the FUCK out of here.

Don't be so rude. Use something like "Thank you for your competent opinion".  Cheesy

PS: Current price is irrelevant, Nxt will outperform with VISA + MasterCard anyway.

 Cheesy dream on my belarus friend dream on. There is still something called reality. come back to earth lets face the FACTS

facts about NXT:

60 whale waiting to dump on the slightes price move
No client
No TF
No AE
No nothing

the only thing you have is non useble alias
now you have nothing.


just relax emule.
nxt has reached more in this 65 days than any other crypto before.
for the client i can tell you the same. currently there are three
desktop clients in work (hopefully i don't forget one, many action here).
minusbalancer creates a one-in-all version running without server part,
marcus03 writing a rich feature client including quoting, charting and
more and i am writing a lean account centric version.

client dev is a serious matter, user funds are involved and therefore
you can be sure, even with pressure, i don't release something half just
to satisfy your or any other quick demand and i am sure the other dev's
looking at this similar.

in all respect for emunie and dan (developing this in c++ must be a horrorshow
for him and deserves attention) but nxt is playing simple in another league.
i absolutly don't see emunie as competion because both are totally different
animals. the other way around, emunie could be an interesting additonal
gateway provider for nxt.



any update on when you expect the client to be released?
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
by
mww
on 29/01/2014, 11:11:13 UTC


You can kick this pig, is going nowhere. One of your big stakeholders in all respect of NXT dumped 1M coins on Bter just to let you all see I can.
I hope you all not surprised this pig is not moving.
The big stakeholders are offloading for more than a weeks now and they will continue to do so for months so don’t expect price to rise in the coming months, but expect the worse, and don’t give me the“good coins getting wide spread” now sh**, cos coins going nowhere, 60 people own 80% of NXT.!!!
You were still not able to release the “official” client (vaporware) so people will have to use other clients instead.
Nexern is personally responsible for the price dip (3x he did not deliver) that will follow after my message.
Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now. (and don’t give me the “good coins getting wide spread” again)
Marketing is a disaster and a joke, you gave 1M to 1 guy that decides to give it out on stupid translations and stupid video.
Nowhere have I seen any marketing effort of value! There is no master plan, no guidance and leadership like dogecoin did, lack of that will kill this puppy soon
Meanwhile you all discussing stupid things like voting system and color of the coin, NXT get your act together and start do something cos ethereum and emunie will kill you instantly they hit the market. What you all got right now is hot air.
It is arrogant to think you have something to offer that others don’t have, if you don’t start get NXT ibn to the open before ethereum and emunie might as well sell all your freaking coins right now cos rhey are worth sh***

and where is that f*** client!

This is not a get rich quick scheme, This is the history of decenteralized payment systems in the making, That includes etherium and other coins, want pump and dumps? This is not one sorry, So let the big boys discuss code and math and get the FUCK out of here.

You have no right to speak, I know you dumping millions of coins below market price so STFU.

You personally ar the reason price dont get up!


I distribute to new users at a convenience because I am not as greedy as you, I have all the right to speak since I actually contribute in coins, code, projects in crypto space and much much more since 2010.

I am not the one cursing low prices and an empty wallet, Even though I don't have a job I have a career, Never complained when I was dead poor, never raised my head higher than people because I made money.

its okay little boy, your nuts will grow someday no need to scream and act tough. *_^

Aren't you the same person who was selling at 0.000045 right before we got added to new exchanges? and now your selling off again right before we get a proper client?

I'd just like to say thank you. Without weak hands like yours it would be allot harder to make a profit.

I sincerely hope someone buys through your fake walls and your completely removed from the game. however much i like to make easy money, i hate to see prices manipulated by such a big stake stuck with such a weak handed investor.

People like you were lucky to get in early, but luck can only ride you so far. The people who hold now, the serious investors who actually realize NXT's intrinsic advantages, will be the ones laughing come april.

Now please leave. Or just crash the market and get it over and done with. I've put up another 200k between 0.00007 and 0.00006. Please, please bite.