@holydarkness Let’s recap. It is me who has been accused. My funds were taken, but I guess, somehow, I must be the one proving everything. Betcoin, in the meantime, declared $250 in earned affiliate commission as the public joke of the day and is now sticking to vague accusations and claims that cannot be verified. They accuse me of being in the referral's KYC video however, I did not even complete KYC myself on their site. This fact only, should be enough for a red flag. They claim I didn’t post the link on Discord, yet they don’t want to say where it purportedly came from. They say my referral is connected to me no proof. No detail. Just “trust us.” They claim there was abuse but won’t define what the abuse actually was. And when asked for answers? They release memes, divert attention, and now assert that I will never see any cash. You have asked me why I shared the link on a Discord server that was on the go. Because that's where I was frequently active. That's not breaking any rules. And I would like to emphasize: if I earned $250, it is because the referred player lost more. Betcoin gained first and only after that moved the goalposts. Honestly speaking, this is not a matter of policy. It is a matter of power. They have taken the money. They run the platform. And now they have figured it out. It is easier to be ridiculous than to show proof. So I ask you, face to face: Is it relevant to you to have this condition? Because an operator can take commissions without showing any evidence, and in addition, they defame the user by refusing transparency; this is not only my concern. Every affiliate should worry about this matter. @holydarkness, you have established trust in this place. Do not allow them to burn it down to cover their tracks.

Let's take a step back here.

Why am I being cross-examined in detail when I'm the one being accused? I'm not the casino. I don't have click logs, user tracking software, or IP records. Betcoin does.

They're the ones who are making the following accusations:

My referral is "abusive"

I'm somehow connected with that player

I'm trying some kind of scam

Okay. Then prove it.
Not with jokes. Not with sweepstakes posts making fun of my username.
With evidence.

Instead of answering the many obvious and direct questions others have asked (including calls to explain what specific "abuse" took place), Betcoin just keeps throwing out more insults, evasions, and distractions. They had no issue with the click and paying the affiliate commission until after did they reverse it and try to spin the story around.

So why is the defendant being asked to disprove something the accuser won't even define?

Until they can produce actual proof of abuse not just vague claims and deflection this is a case of wrongful seizure and public slander, as clear as day.

I'm happy to discuss, but only if the same degree of scrutiny is applied to Betcoin, not just me.

You are right that Betcoin is able to decline service under their Terms of Service. I am not disputing any of this. What I am contesting is the retrospective withdrawal of pre-earned affiliate commission without evidence and in opaque fashion.

Facts as a sequence:

I was not prohibited from gaming.

I shared my referral link on public places.
Someone utilized it, deposited funds, gamed, and garnered affiliate commission under the website's own platform.

That referral was then taken, and I was told the referral was an "abusive player."

If Betcoin is claiming the referral was banned and refunded okay, then let's see that settled definitively. Dates, numbers, refunds not vague insinuation and public mockery.

And let's not forget either that instead of demonstrating facts or providing a support procedure, Betcoin instead chose to:

Publicly post a sweepstakes mocking my name,
Use insults and sarcasm as official duties, and

Charge me with multi-accounting with no provided evidence.

That's the real problem. Had this been an actual case of fraud, they would have processed it as one quietly and by documentation. They made it into a circus instead.

So, yes, I'm here waiting for them to substantiate their claims with hard evidence, not insults. I'm more than happy for other people in this thread to weigh in am I the only one waving the red flags?

Since many of you have taken interest in this, let me elaborate once again in easy terms.

I shared my referral link in a busy public Discord chat regarding crypto gambling. No, I don't control what gets clicked or ignored. That's how public discussions are. I didn't try to micromanage every non-click that isn't how affiliate links work. You share them out, and if someone finds value in the platform, they use it. That's exactly what happened here.

And regarding how the referral landed on my link you're talking to the wrong person. Ask Betcoin. They're the ones who tracked the user and claim to know so much. If they have such specific information, then surely they can give what abuse was perpetrated? Because until now, it's just been smoke, jokes, and defamation. Still waiting for real evidence.

They've made a $250 affiliate commission they won on their own platform and instead of paying like a reputable company, they've used my login name to organize a phony sweepstakes and resorted to ridicule on an open forum. Is that everybody's notion of professional behavior? Or at least some necessary?

If they were sincere and didn't have anything to conceal, why be hostile through sarcasm and personal attack when instead, show us what exactly my referral accomplished? "We don't want you here" is no cause for depriving someone of earnings.

I'll say it straight out: if Betcoin can demonstrate the abuse and not simply allege it I'll back off. But until then, I think other members here are entitled to form their own opinions as to whether this seems to be fraud prevention or just a poor cover story for denying payouts.

Thoughts?

hahaha! Oh wow a sweepstakes with my username on it? Betcoin, you seriously whipped up something good this time. I'm dying. No really I haven't laughed this hard at comedy since your affiliate payout policy.

You clowns couldn't muster up a piece of evidence, so now we're at memes and middle-school jokes?
What's next, a TikTok dance called "How to Dodge a $250 Payout"?

Let's recap the comedy show for everyone:

First I'm "suspicious."
Then I'm a bogus referral.
Then I'm somehow included in someone else's KYC photo?
Now I'm the star of your circus contest? LMAOOO

And yet no single screenshot, no single IP match, no one actual shred of evidence to back up your mouth.
Just awful jokes and outlandish accusations sprinkled like confetti.

Here's what isn't funny:

You held out a legitimate $250 commission on an affiliate you solicited.
You wouldn't provide proof of wrongdoing.
And now you're acting like a Twitch streamer instead of a company.

You're not exposing a scammer. You're exposing YOURSELVES.

So hey thanks for the laughs.
You just made it a whole lot easier for people to see exactly what Betcoin is:

Not a platform. Not a company. Just a meme with a withdraw button.

LMAO. This literally makes no sense.

Let's just quickly walk through Betcoin's Greatest Hits:

First, I'm "suspicious."
Then my balance is "not mine but affiliate commissions" (which they paid, btw).
 Then my sole referral is "abusive."
 Oh wait now I'm the referral though?
 Then abruptly I'm somehow in the background of some else's KYC photo?
 And now they can magically look at the future with one click and follow me online?

Tell me, y'all does ANY OF THIS SOUND ON THE LEVEL TO YOU?
They've changed their tale six times. They never did post any one receipt, IP match, or real evidence. Just bombast, jargon, and an awful lot of "scammer" trash.

You took the referral. You credited the commission. And then you canceled when it was pay time. That ain't security that's plain theft.

Betcoin can't even get their lies consistent, and they're too arrogant to notice that people are figuring them out.

To the rest of the members reading:
Is this a legitimate fraud case or a casino attempting to avoid a $250 payment by yelling louder than the truth?

Because from my vantage point, it appears that Betcoin just robbed an affiliate and labeled it "terms of service

The link was shared in a public channel on the Discord awhich is a massive, fast-moving server. Posts can be buried in minutes. I’m not going to scroll through weeks of noise just to satisfy Betcoin’s shifting narrative. That’s not how affiliate systems are supposed to work.

Their own system tracked the referral, applied the commission, and only when it came time to pay did they cry foul without presenting a shred of actual evidence.

Let’s not twist this around:
I’m not the one with the problem they are.
They’re the ones retroactively seizing earnings, inventing connections, and hoping no one demands proof.

If Betcoin truly had a case, they’d post data. Logs. Overlap. Something.
Rather, they're all bluff since they have nothing.

I published the affiliate link in a few open internet spaces nothing in particular or personal. It was out there for whoever could see it, such as most affiliate links. I do not have one-click tracking, so I can not conclusively say where the user was from simply that Betcoin accepted the referral, awarded the commission, and later took it back without ever saying what rule supposedly had been broken.

Appreciation for cutting through the noise and actually asking a cogent question.

In explanation:
A public affiliate link I published was utilized by someone. I don't know them, they are not affiliated with me, and I never responded to them. Where they found the link in a group or somewhere else I have no clue. It was out there for the taking.

What I do know is the following:

Betcoin did follow through on that referral.

Paid me a $250 commission.

And then when it was time to pay out, they hit me with a made-up charge and shut the entire thing down.

No mention of what this "abuse" supposedly consisted of. No transparency. Just vague ToS boilerplate and, strangely, a claim that I "appeared in the referral's KYC" even though I never even submitted KYC myself.

They're clearly trying to retroactively justify seizing a payout they didn't want to pay out.

So that is the simple answer: I did not refer a friend, co-worker, or alt account.
A public link had been utilized in order to join. Betcoin took it, followed it, paid commission then withdrew it when it was convenient for them.

That is not fraud protection. That is theft.

You're literally embarrassing yourselves at this point.

Let's take the bullshit in slow motion for everyone watching:

I wasn't banned. I wasn't warned. I wasn't blocked from betting. You made that up afterwards to cover your ass for stealing my affiliate commission.

I asked for a bonus. You said no. I said fine. Then I asked to withdraw. You said yes. That is the actual conversation and if not, please post the logs. You will not. Because you're a liar.

You traced a referral, gave me commissions, and when payout time came, you panicked and said, "Hold on, this guy can make money. Better hit him with ambiguous ToS violations and call it abuse."

And your genial defense now is, "We knew you were a scammer, so we preemptively stole your money." You are kidding, right?

You're telling me you can read minds now?

That's not fraud protection, that's thievery. That's post-event, made-up bullshit to justify canceling a payout that you already tracked, approved, and credited.

And now you're writing "Get a real job" and "GTFOH" rather than answering real questions. You sound like a scam Telegram admin who just rugged a coin launch.

If I got banned post the message. If I violated terms post the evidence. If the referral was actually me show the proof.

You won't. Because you have none.

You don't ban people who "abuse." You wait until payout time, then you use the word "abuse" like a magic wand and wave it around like you're casting a spell. That's your whole scam.

You got caught. You're desperate. And now you're fighting in public, attempting to distract from the fact that you just stole funds from someone who did nothing wrong.

Everyone notices. Dig deeper.

$250 in affiliate commissions. That's what all of this meltdown is about.

I sent you cash, you refunded it. Fine.
But you never once banned me, notified me that I could no longer play, or any kind of restriction until after the fact.

Then I refer one person one and you give me the credits for the commissions. You followed them. You accepted them. You paid them into my balance. And when it is time to actually pay out, you freak out and freeze the money with no explanation.

And now your excuse?
You come up with some fantasy that I appear in the background of my referral's KYC despite:

I never ever did KYC myself

I was never told I wasn't allowed to use the site

You never provided any evidence, proof, screenshots, or logs just flat out lies

Let's be real: you're not imposing rules. You're taking commissions and making up shit to cover for it. You're publicly accsing users of fraud behind vague TOS, and when prompted for details, all you can do is:

GTFOH, scammer.

That's your professionalism? That's your conflict resolution?

This isn't dodgy. It's embarrassing. You stole the money, made up a false story, and now you're spinning in public like a Telegram con artist who's being called out.

You don't need affiliates. You need free traffic and an after-the-fact loophole to refund commissions. And anyone who is thinking of working with Betcoin.ag should know exactly how you operate when the stakes are on the line.

You exposed yourself. All I did was show up and ask for what I earned.

Let’s cut through the noise. Betcoin.ag banned me and stole $250 in affiliate commissions because they decided, without proof, that my referral was “abusive.” No evidence. No dispute process. Just a vague accusation, instant account ban, and seizure of funds. And now they’re trying to deflect by: Claiming my post was “too well-written” (what kind of defense is that?) Suggesting I’m a scammer for using proper grammar Hiding behind the "we can do what we want" clause in their terms of service
Here are the facts: I deposited. They refunded it. Fine. I referred one person. That person deposited, played, and earned affiliate commissions. Those commissions were paid to me Betcoin.ag documented them and confirmed them. And then suddenly, without reason or evidence, they shut down my account and stole the money. If you're going to steal user earnings, you at least owe them a process and transparency. It's not acceptable to hide behind vague TOS language and steal money after you've already credited it.

This has nothing to do with ChatGPT or forum drama. This is about a platform that:

Takes deposits and referrals

 Pays commissions

Then retroactively takes them without being held accountable

That's stealing. Let's call it what it is.

If Betcoin.ag has actual proof of abuse, share it here. Otherwise, this is precisely why scam allegations exist to reveal businesses that use legalese to cover up while robbing users.

Do you still need it sir?

Thanks for the response, but I find your explanation unsatisfactory and lacking in both transparency and fairness.

1. No Proof of Abuse Provided
You claim my referral was “an abusive player” and suggest it might have been me or someone working with me. That is a serious accusation, yet you have provided absolutely no proof to support it. If you are going to confiscate affiliate earnings, you should be transparent and demonstrate clear evidence of fraudulent behavior.

2. Legitimate Activity
I had only one referral, as you acknowledge. That person deposited, played, and clearly generated action otherwise, there would be no affiliate commissions. You accepted that activity while it benefited your platform, then reversed the commissions after the fact, with no appeal process or investigation shared with me.

3. Retroactive Punishment Without Transparency
Refusing to pay earned commissions based on vague internal suspicions, without providing any proof or giving the affiliate a chance to defend themselves, is unethical. The affiliate program terms may give you the “right” to do this, but exercising that right without transparency or accountability is what defines a bad actor in the crypto and iGaming space.

4. Funds Were Earned, Not Stolen
The $250 in question are not bonus funds or deposits, they're commissions generated by activity you yourself tracked and credited to my account. If there was fraud, you should provide details and pursue that through proper dispute resolution not unilaterally seize funds

I am reporting Betcoin.ag for unjustly closing my account and withholding my balance of $250.

Today, I received the following message from their support team:

"Hello, due to suspicious account activity we are unable to accept you as a member of our affiliate program, per the terms of service. Your account is permanently closed. Do not create any additional accounts or they will be subject to closure and funds withheld."

I was never given any prior warning, nor was I shown any evidence of "suspicious activity." I never violated any of their terms of service, and my gameplay and affiliate activity were legitimate. This vague accusation and sudden closure seem to be a cover for seizing my funds without due process or transparency.

They have ignored further support requests and are now holding my funds without justification.

I’m posting this to warn the community: avoid Betcoin.ag until they correct this issue and return my money. Their handling of this situation is both unprofessional and unethical.

If any Betcoin.ag representatives or anyone in the community who can help are reading this, I’m open to resolving the matter and request that you respond here or contact me directly.