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Where did the smell come from?
Check all your wiring (including the sockets and any surge protectors) for any signs of burning, if you spot any take that cable and bin it. And test all your PSU's outside of your rigs by "hot-wiring" them to start attached to a fan or something, last thing you want is for a damaged PSU to surge out into your rig.
If available, always keep an electrical use safe fire extinguisher in an easy to reach place when mining, they cost like $20 from your local fire station and believe me, if the worst did happen that $20 is a lot cheaper than your house, or even your family.
Check all your wiring (including the sockets and any surge protectors) for any signs of burning, if you spot any take that cable and bin it. And test all your PSU's outside of your rigs by "hot-wiring" them to start attached to a fan or something, last thing you want is for a damaged PSU to surge out into your rig.
If available, always keep an electrical use safe fire extinguisher in an easy to reach place when mining, they cost like $20 from your local fire station and believe me, if the worst did happen that $20 is a lot cheaper than your house, or even your family.
Agree with you whole heartedly, I even went as far as to walk to university (3.5m hike, not just around the corner) so I could get in a little exercise to boot rather than taking the bus. I even shut down 2/3 of my computer screens and my amplifiers until I plan to play games (or need the real estate) or listen to music, probably saves less than 0.6kw/h per day but better than not doing it.
Solar power has seen some really huge developments with hot salt plants which can provide power at night too, but as far as I am aware only one of these exists (don't keep up with it) and they cost a fortune to build, far more than a fossil fuel plant so places where they would work such as India are highly unlikely to be building them any time soon.
Wind farms I love the idea of, but although they get a lot of support from climate activists, conservationists are consistently halting their production in the UK. Only in the last 10 days did a major contract get lost to a foreign nation because activists protested against building the turbines on non protected land because it "looked nice".....how nice is our land going to look when people can't even afford to drive and see it? Seen as they know much more about the land than the government does, why can't THEY make plans to install the turbines elsewhere in collaboration with the government rather than forcing them to spend years finding new areas.
The fact remains that the western world is too accustomed to it's electronic lifestyle to move backwards, and we have less than 100 years in order to find a viable alternative: Fusion power is planned to be at production phases within this time, but that doesn't mean the majority of our societies could afford to pay the ever increasing energy bills in the mean time. Until then, in my opinion, nuclear power can provide us with the stop gap needed to reach this point, and with careful planning between our governments and the industry, we can handle the toxic by-products in a safe and controled environment which will protect humans, wildlife and the environment until it becomes safe (Yes I realise this is in around 100,000 - 500,000 years).
Solar power has seen some really huge developments with hot salt plants which can provide power at night too, but as far as I am aware only one of these exists (don't keep up with it) and they cost a fortune to build, far more than a fossil fuel plant so places where they would work such as India are highly unlikely to be building them any time soon.
Wind farms I love the idea of, but although they get a lot of support from climate activists, conservationists are consistently halting their production in the UK. Only in the last 10 days did a major contract get lost to a foreign nation because activists protested against building the turbines on non protected land because it "looked nice".....how nice is our land going to look when people can't even afford to drive and see it? Seen as they know much more about the land than the government does, why can't THEY make plans to install the turbines elsewhere in collaboration with the government rather than forcing them to spend years finding new areas.
The fact remains that the western world is too accustomed to it's electronic lifestyle to move backwards, and we have less than 100 years in order to find a viable alternative: Fusion power is planned to be at production phases within this time, but that doesn't mean the majority of our societies could afford to pay the ever increasing energy bills in the mean time. Until then, in my opinion, nuclear power can provide us with the stop gap needed to reach this point, and with careful planning between our governments and the industry, we can handle the toxic by-products in a safe and controled environment which will protect humans, wildlife and the environment until it becomes safe (Yes I realise this is in around 100,000 - 500,000 years).
Well it's good to see a person who doesn't just talk out their ass for once 
I completely agree that this example is a monstrosity, but could I also point out the fact the facility in that example was constructed in 1978, a time in which safety protocols where much more relaxed; no excuse however, but I feel I can "justify" this happening with the development of fossil fuel power plants....
When we first started to mass burn coal and oil for producing power, we did not in any way filter the emissions from these plants. It was only when scientists realised the effect of those emissions on the environment (Not the climate, cannot stand global warming scams given clear evidence that the atmosphere isn't anywhere near any kind of "danger point") that power plants where forced to correct the issues, something which is still an on-going campaign in many developing countries.
The nuclear power industry is following a similar course to find the safest operating standards possible, something which Norway is taking wholeheartedly with the production of a dedicated, concrete lined cavern to hold nuclear waste securely for a few thousand years. Greenpeace officials have themselves said (and I can't for the life of me find the evidence, so take it or leave it
) that nuclear power is something they should have supported from day 1 given the adverse effects fossil fuel's have had to date. It's is major setbacks in development that have led to NPP companies to skip updating health and safety guidelines in order to stay in business, look at Chernobyl, a disaster caused by lack of clear guidelines which allowed a junior operator to directly control a reactor.
One last thing, I can't agree with your comment on Fukushima, it's like saying that the trade centres collapsed because there wasn't enough fire insulation. Fukushima is a rare incident caused by two major natural disasters one after the other, not because of any lack of safety regulations: Storing spent fuel in "baths" is common at every reactor, and must be done in order to cool the fuel sufficiently enough for long term storage. These baths have multiple backup systems, just like at Fukushima, and loosing all of them at once is something unpredictable.
I completely agree that this example is a monstrosity, but could I also point out the fact the facility in that example was constructed in 1978, a time in which safety protocols where much more relaxed; no excuse however, but I feel I can "justify" this happening with the development of fossil fuel power plants....
When we first started to mass burn coal and oil for producing power, we did not in any way filter the emissions from these plants. It was only when scientists realised the effect of those emissions on the environment (Not the climate, cannot stand global warming scams given clear evidence that the atmosphere isn't anywhere near any kind of "danger point") that power plants where forced to correct the issues, something which is still an on-going campaign in many developing countries.
The nuclear power industry is following a similar course to find the safest operating standards possible, something which Norway is taking wholeheartedly with the production of a dedicated, concrete lined cavern to hold nuclear waste securely for a few thousand years. Greenpeace officials have themselves said (and I can't for the life of me find the evidence, so take it or leave it
) that nuclear power is something they should have supported from day 1 given the adverse effects fossil fuel's have had to date. It's is major setbacks in development that have led to NPP companies to skip updating health and safety guidelines in order to stay in business, look at Chernobyl, a disaster caused by lack of clear guidelines which allowed a junior operator to directly control a reactor.One last thing, I can't agree with your comment on Fukushima, it's like saying that the trade centres collapsed because there wasn't enough fire insulation. Fukushima is a rare incident caused by two major natural disasters one after the other, not because of any lack of safety regulations: Storing spent fuel in "baths" is common at every reactor, and must be done in order to cool the fuel sufficiently enough for long term storage. These baths have multiple backup systems, just like at Fukushima, and loosing all of them at once is something unpredictable.
Norway is already constructing a long term fission waste storage facility deep underground, considering the fact that fossil fuels will run out long before fusion power takes its place we should be building similar structures world wide, not shutting the plants down instead.
Also, the barrels falling on one another you speak of, can you please provide info on which EUROPEAN country is committing this act?
Also, the barrels falling on one another you speak of, can you please provide info on which EUROPEAN country is committing this act?
There is even a fusion project under way in Europe (collaboration with US teams) which is despiratly trying to source £35m, the UK government is spending £250m on installing new internet services.....who gives a crap about fast internet when you can't afford to run a pc?
Well thats my little rant over
Well thats my little rant over
Welcome to politics
More and/or louder voices are clammoring for better/cheaper/faster internet, but everyone just pays their utility bills without thinking about it. Current energy providers are also generally pressuring against competing sources of cheaper/cleaner energy, at least in the US.
That and thanks to Japan's recent troubles nobody wants to touch nuclear power, even though it's the best power source we have available with current technology.
It's really a damn shame, we could all have $0.03/kWh power costs, and the providers of nuclear power would still be making a hefty profit.
With fusion technology (50 years away if no one will fund them, 20 years if they get as much funding as we spend killing each other) we'd practically have free electricity from a 100% safe and clean source that has almost limitless fuel (Water/Deuterium). As you quite rightly say though, we live in a capitalist society where making things cheaper doesn't suit the fat cats. The stupid part is that out governments to realise that free energy would lead to a massive economic boom, gaining them more taxes anyway.....
The largest contributing factor to EU price rises in electricity is the shutting down of NPP's after what happened in Japan: As if our parliaments are so stupid to think that something as bad could happen here. Sure there is the possibility of a Chernobyl type incident in which a team of workers ballsed up a reactor, but wtih modern technology this simply couldn't happen unless done deliberately. The simple fact is that NPP's produce far cheaper and cleaner energy than even so called "green powers" such as wind farms, and with fossil fuels going up in price all the time we should all be building NPP's as quick as possible.
There is even a fusion project under way in Europe (collaboration with US teams) which is despiratly trying to source £35m, the UK government is spending £250m on installing new internet services.....who gives a crap about fast internet when you can't afford to run a pc?
Well thats my little rant over
There is even a fusion project under way in Europe (collaboration with US teams) which is despiratly trying to source £35m, the UK government is spending £250m on installing new internet services.....who gives a crap about fast internet when you can't afford to run a pc?
Well thats my little rant over
Where do you live? .29 USD cents Kw/h is pretty high.
UK (GB...England, what ever you guys like to call us lol). The UK just had a 30% price hike on energy bills
So at £0.1849 (GBP) (18.49 pence) per Kw/h, is it going to be worth mining again?
I stopped a few months back when the fan on a 5970 literally exploded in the housing, but I'd like to start again. I'm estimating usage at around 830watts (Very rough approx of 700Watts for 2 5970's and 130 watts for a 280).
I stopped a few months back when the fan on a 5970 literally exploded in the housing, but I'd like to start again. I'm estimating usage at around 830watts (Very rough approx of 700Watts for 2 5970's and 130 watts for a 280).
Well if he has his rack in a basement or unused room there is no reason he couldn't slam a 5k rpm fan in the front and one in the back. I'd search on ebay for some of the metal fans the old HP servers used to use, those things never break down (had one running in a data centre for over 6 years solid, never been turned off).
You mean these?
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=hp+metal+server+fan&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1131&bih=703&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=13263347164400604665&sa=X&ei=2zcfTsHKM4P2tgPfzM01&ved=0CFcQ8wIwAA
Nar these where huge 120mm black things with no guards on (Back before H&S went mad...I mean come on who in the right mind puts their finger into a 5k fan).
$20 from Vibrant, tempted to grab a couple actually. Thanks for the link
Well if he has his rack in a basement or unused room there is no reason he couldn't slam a 5k rpm fan in the front and one in the back. I'd search on ebay for some of the metal fans the old HP servers used to use, those things never break down (had one running in a data centre for over 6 years solid, never been turned off).
I know this is an old thread, so you probably don't have that problem anymore, but I had a similar problem, which I fixed by making sure the computer with fluctuating/varying hashrate had enough power from the outlet. I had two 1250w psu 4gpu miners plugged into one surge protector off a 15 amp rated outlet, and the hashrate went up and down on one of the miners.
Then the power strip tripped, so I replaced the 15 amp outlet with a 20 amp outlet (20 amps from the breaker) and plugged each computer into its own power strip. problem solved, hashrate stable.
Then the power strip tripped, so I replaced the 15 amp outlet with a 20 amp outlet (20 amps from the breaker) and plugged each computer into its own power strip. problem solved, hashrate stable.
Although I stopped mining nearly 1month ago due to a 5970 quite litteraly going up in smoke, I can verify that this solution does work: I had placed a dedicated 3kw UPS onto my mining rig (It's good to be friends with people who own data centers
) and the cleaner power stabilised my hashing rate by a substantial amount. 