Couldn't imagine if I could find an article about bitcoin mixers on yahoo. Is it possible to submit guest posts to yahoo news? By the way, I always think about this video when I read or hear yahoo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdzilA215uE
- Trump: 'Are you gonna apologize yahoo? That's why you are yahoo and nobody knows who the hell you are'. This was brutally funny.

a) Their marketing strategy and timeframe wasn't really enough for such a scam. Nobody would spend tens or hundreds of bitcoin to the address of such a fresh mixer. This strategy may work for a company that's at least 1 year old with still ongoing intense marketing on many places. They also had 40K DAI in escrow. I don't think this service was intended for scam from the beginning.

b) Mixing business is probably one of the most profitable business out there. You get tons of volume and charge 1-5% from each transaction, don't have big expenses and don't pay taxes. This is ideal business for long-term profit. Probably they really got enough because they financially failed.

c) Team is a buzzword used by a single individual. It was probably run by an individual who had hired some people for FE/BE staff.

d) I think that version is the most possible reason. The ration of spend/outcome was probably very bad, they were spending more but were getting less. The outcome from marketing and project probably didn't meet their expectation and they gave up on it or weren't able to keep it. Does anyone know what were their reserves? How much coins were they holding and/or what was the max amount one could try to mix?

I read similar post a while back somewhere. Was it in the topic where someone was predicting who will shutdown after Chipmixer or the guy who lost 200 and wanted attention to recover his balance?

I got an email back from whirlwind just now and it was as I suspected - something happened.

Basically, main people lost access due to travels while people still with access didn't have the right credentials to solve basic issues that caused withdraws to get stuck on the back-end. I've been assured that nothing has been lost and that all will be taken care of tomorrow meaning all currently pending withdraws will be processed and things return back to normal. It was an unfortunate situation is all!

I've asked my contact at whirlwind to reply in this thread whenever they can with further details, so from now until then/tomorrow night there is no need to panic even if I wouldn't recommend you to deposit until the backlog is cleared. Campaign participants will also be paid out as per usual tomorrow, regardless of if you've removed your signature or not.

As far as the unprofessional behaviour is concerned, you are absolutely right. If they're continuing to accept deposits from people in full knowledge they cannot mix and return the funds then they should not be doing it. Also, if they were unable to give certain staff members permission to put that information on the website to temporarily stop deposits, it is another thing they will be able to look at to ensure it does not happen again.

Hopefully they will post here with a comment when they have time.

This is how karma works. You all supported a scam and now you are swallowing it.

Whirlwind are not scammers. You lost your private key without making a back-up and for that reason are trolling.

CryptoHFs, are you still standing beside that guy? He is still asking for his funds but nobody apart from your CryptoHFs account and his stormbounty account is stating Whirlwind owe him anything. The truth is Whirlwind owe him zero and you are riding along in the thread for the sake of attention-seeking.

I've been following up on your case since and have chosen to be ignorant of it; it's not my business, though. But judging from your story, you really don't have anyone to blame but yourself.
 
Let's assume you generated a wallet using any of the non-custodial wallets out there: electrum, metamask, or any other. And once you generate the address, a private key or phrase is issued out to you with a warning message to store it safely in case you misplace it or by mistake it gets into someone else's custody. That's on you. So if you misplace it, will you go back to the wallet provider and request that they give you back the key? When there was never any agreement that they back up any of that your data?
 
If you lose your private key, you lose your money, and there are no two ways about it, unless there are people who will feel pity for you and help you send a few coins in order for you not to die of a heart attack. If not, just forget about the money; that's a price you have to pay for your carelessness.

I used to feel sorry for you because your incompetence unfortunately led you to a situation where are incapable of getting back the private key you failed to keep a copy of. Now there is no pity at all. I have added you to my ignore list and as a result of your constant spamming I have left you appropriate feedback.

You lost your private key and Whirlwind owe you nothing. It is as simple as that.

Staking your address on this forum, in my opinion, holds little relevance in this particular case. Yes, it proves that the user indeed owns the address used to deposit funds on Whirlwind. However, beyond that, it doesn't prove anything else.

The whole case boils down to the user's claim that he lost access (private key) to the funded note and can't retrieve the coins. However, besides his words, there's no concrete proof to support it. But, even if he manage to prove it, it's still not Whirlwind's responsibility nor their obligation to compensate for the lost funds. Whirlwind notes are a non-custodial type of wallet, so it's unreasonable to hold them accountable for the loss of funds.

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You are wrong because, as you admitted yourself, you assumed something that was clearly not the case. I don't want to go into the details of how clearnet and TOR domains work, but that was a very wrong assumption. Moreover, even if you were using the same browser and opened a new tab on the same domain, your notes would still be generated with a new private key. (I just took 15 seconds to check it myself.) So, I'm baffled as to where such an assumption about something so crucial comes from.

Your second mistake was not saving the private key (and double-checking it) BEFORE depositing the funds, which is explicitly stated on the website. It's as simple as clicking a mouse to download a text file, so there's no need for manual copy-pasting into Notepad.

And finally, you're also wrong in expecting Whirlwind to bear the loss (even if it's a relatively small amount) due to clearly YOUR mistake. As I said before, even if we assume your story is true, those funds are now inaccessible to anyone, which doesn't change the fact that Whirlwind already paid that amount once. So why should they compensate you twice for your mistake?


THANK YOU!