The point is that Trump, the wannabe dictator, IS THE GOVERNMENT right now. If he told Pam Bondi or whoever to release the files then the files would be released. So why is Trump not doing that, and why are all you sycophants so chickenshit about it?

LOL gotta love how it's "the government" now, when it's clearly your lord and savior Donald Pumpkin Trump blatantly trying to shove it all under the rug, and "the government" is basically his bootlickers. Still scared to call him out?

Is "sustainable" here referring to how "christians" used to "sustain" nonbelievers by the neck?

Great idea to replace one religious fuckwittery with another less popular religious fuckwittery, that'll fix things in a jiffy.

Once again, I'm looking forward to see steaming pretzels from the "Trump will end all wars" muppets... fart of the deal innit.

There is no "Elon camp" aside from some hardcore believers who are too dumb to admit that they got duped. He used to have some following among the techbro-worshipping kids, including some shitcoiners, but has comprehensively burned those bridges with his pretend-gaming bullshit and doge nonsense and just generally being insufferably cringy even to the brainrot generation. His billions aren't of any use to his hypothetical "followers", although some may be deluded into thinking that listening to a rich person will somehow correlate to their own personal success.

At the end of the day, Trump has quite a bit more power ATM so Elon will probably delete his mean tweets and suck it up, or deport himself to South Africa. Fingers crossed though that he's too dumb for that and ends up in Guantanamo, that'd be glorious.

For all I know Trump is on drugs too, but it's obvious from the context that I was talking about Elon. Trump supporters will stick with Trump and try to weasel out of their "Elon phase" or pretend it never happened. No one really likes him, and right wingers just tolerated him for a little while when he was pandering to them and giving millions of dollars to Trump campaign.

I'm just here to watch all the insufferably illiterate conspiratards now trying to pretzel themselves out their very recent (like literally up to a few days ago) praise for the lying piece of shit drug addict billionaire. So very shocking for two narcissists to have a nasty public falling out, isn't it LOL.

LOL I'm kinda tempted to show this condescending righteous trollfuckery to my daughter, I bet she'd get a good laugh. But OPSEC.

Sounds like someone's really struggling with that closet door...

Don't post anything sensitive here, and I mean "private" parts of the site as well, like your PMs or your e-mail address or anything like that. Keep in mind that deleted posts and PMs may not be actually deleted from the database.

And trust that theymos has a reasonably recent backup to recover the site, which he probably does.

LOL that's exactly what I was talking about, the "offers" are basically the equivalent of a shirtless Trump on a horse. Like the one where Canada said yeah we'll help with fentanyl, which there is barely any coming from Canada, and Mexico send yeah we'll do something-or-other-that-we-were-doing-anyway-but-will-make-it-sound-like-Trump's-wish.


Good point. Have you concluded the research of the tariff formula's divisor yet?

It's quite lovely how you rant about media misinformation and then parrot white house and right wing media talking points with no thought whatsoever, all on the same page here.

By no means ever try to ask yourself, which countries are coming and what they're signing and why would they sign anything, let alone anything beneficial to the US when they can clearly see Trump caving as soon as someone tells him that bond selloff is a bad thing... a much better option is to talk to China or Japan, the countries holding the US by the proverbial balls, who also happen to not have a tantrum-prone toddler in charge. OTOH, if they can negotiate some sort of deal by promising to hang paintings of Trump (shirtless on a horse for extra discount) in their streets, more power to them. Paid for by american taxpayers either way.

The US does not have the upper hand. China saw that all it needs for Trump to cave in is to wait a day or two for the stock market to drop. So they can ratchet retaliatory tariffs to 500%, Trump will obediently respond, and then will declare victory by revoking the stupid shit he did himself. Just one of many ways this can play out without any benefit for the US. At the expense of everyone paying a 10% federal sales tax, we love new taxes don't we.

Makes about as much sense as your (somehow magically disappeared) thread about the idiotic formula that was so brilliant and poof it's gone just like your thread, all bullshit formulas thrown away, all taxes set at 10%, except China, which can get whatever it wants now that Trump has shown himself to be full of chickenshit. Or to use your analogy, you've given fake money to all bullies except one, that'll definitely teach that one bully that you're definitely a super-tough keyboard warrior and totally not giving up.

I bet you will find excuses even when the same government officials turn out to have done insider trading while lying to the public.

What happened Navarro, Lutnick, et al bleating "this is not a negotiation" for the last week or so?

Rhetorical question of course. Morons crashed the market, got reprimanded by fellow billionaires, and quickly "fixed" what didn't need breaking to begin with. Fart of the deal.

Yeah he did finally chicken out and kinda sorta paused (or lowered to 10%, depending on how you read his illiterate tweet) tariffs for most countries, except China tariff was raised to 125%.

It's funny to see all those who were salivating how great the tariffs were now praising Trump that he bravely "fixed" the stock market that he broke himself... what a bunch of feckless idiots.

I apologize. I'm trying as hard as I can to stay on your topic of 2:1 "discount" by proving will multiple examples that the USTR formula has nothing to with it. I'm sorry you didn't like the numbers for China or Vietnam. How about Thailand? Beautiful country.

45608.9 / 63328.2 = 0.72 aka 72%... is this better? Still just a coincidence? It should be 2 instead?

Please show your math for this one. You might have made a grave mistake of doing this correctly for some inexplicable reason... except it's a trade surplus, so how does that work out in your imaginary reciprocal land?


Or if you do the math as intended by the abject morons (or chatGPT) who came up with the formula, you get 90.4% which is... what a coincidence... can it possibly be?




I don't. I want to know more about every other country and how it averages to "2".

You're the one having things the wrong way round, specifically the wrong divisor. The formula is idiotic for other reasons, i.e. it has nothing to do with "tariffs" or "reciprocal", it's like asking "how much are eggs at Aldi today" and USTR provides a formula: number_four_letter_words_in_your_posts / total_number_of_words_in_your_posts.

However in the name of science, could you please try to plug in numbers for Vietnam into the formula and show us how it equals your magical reciprocal number of "2".

Here is the source data: https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5520.html

Uhm... you do realize that you made all that up? I'm saying the idiotic USTR deficit formula uses exports TO China from the US. All your other hallucinations are yours only.

I do love your selective quoting while ignoring the glaring issues of using the wrong divisor, or the "2" being elasticity (and not the delta t like you keep saying).