Quote from: Bitcoinorama on June 02, 2013, 08:12:26 PM

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it's been discussed countless times but there's going to be at least a tripling of hashrate before these units would arrive, maybe even 5x or higher (~262 TH/sec total from asicminer, and ~220 Th/sec from avalon chips, plus avalon batch units, plus whatever else)

Triple is nothing. At the current price/GHs you would do a HUGE profit with a Jupiter if the difficulty only went x3 by the moment you get it.

As it's scheduled for September/October, I would consider a difficulty of at least 70 million, and then an increase of at least x100 in the following 12 months (and I wouldn't be surprised by x300...)

If then diff. is any lower than that, better for everybody, but running simulations with anything lower 70m in October and x100 increase in the following 12 months is just absurd wishful thinking IMO.

To be honest, my concerns are the unknown identities Yifu mentioned in the background we don't know about.

Private equity that may have started development in February that we won't know about until they come online.

That is why it is so important we have as much legitimate competition in the open ASAP.

The Bitsyncom bulk chip purchase wallet had enough Bitcoins for 760,000 Avalon chips at their resale price last week.

We only know of a handful of 10k purchases from this forum alone. Who else are they selling to??

Um there are a shit load of group orders spread across maybe a dozen people, i haven't run the numbers but I think more chips are accounted for as open buys than as not

@10,000 chips per group buy that = a potential 76 group buys!!!

Jspielberg was the forum member that confirmed this...

There were group buy who did multiple orders (I think one of those did as much of 7 or 8 orders)... And you can b sure that the vast majority of the individuals who bought the chips for their own use are not advertising it on the forums.