Quote from: franky1 on June 16, 2025, 05:17:14 PM

Quote from: paxmao on June 16, 2025, 04:23:43 PM

So, why not wait for negotiations? Why did Israel not trust the peace process?

It is simple, Israel is afraid of T.A.C.O. . Israel is obviously not willing to put his existance in the hands of the negotiation "skills" of Trump. Nor should the US people IMHO.

isreal was fully willing to see results of a possible peace deal set for negotiations for sunday 15th june
but it was iran that didnt want to wait nor attend sundays meeting

iran declared days earlier it wont be attending, and announced it wanted to build nukes

9th june: iran announced a counter offer peace deal that includes allowing nuclear research and refining
11th june iran announced testing ballistic missiles
11th june iran announced "Every so often it is said that if negotiations fail, it will lead to a conflict."
11th june: iran announced "I declare that in case a conflict is imposed upon us, we will strike our designated target"
11th june: iran cancels the scheduled peacedeal meetup
12th june: iran announced it built and will activate a third nuclear enrichment facility,

Quote from: paxmao on June 16, 2025, 11:42:06 PM

Franky, you seem to live in a paralle universe. The negotiations do not start in the dates you mention, they have been going for many weeks, and Israel has seen how Iran played TACO while advancing their programme.

the date i mentioned 15th june was actually a meeting date!!!(which iran cancelled)

the other dates 9th-12th are not meeting dates, but other event dates that caused isreal and US to REACT to iran ACTIONS
for instance on the 11th they declined to meet up on the 15th.. and on the 11th admitting to intentions that didnt seem to lead to wanting peace

as for the dates of negotiations..
negotiations were going on for 60 days prior to 12th june.. (april 12th-june 12th = 60 days)
trump even gave an extension of two weeks

there were other events but i just mentioned the most reactionary impactful
such as there was another meeting set for the 12th which iran postponed, til the 15th..
so cancelling the 15th appointment was a big slap towards US as they already postponed/delayed previous date