Quote from: hornetsnest on June 24, 2025, 10:16:39 AM

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Quote from: franky1 on June 24, 2025, 05:27:01 AM

lets see how long this cease fire lasts...
hopefully forever, hopefully iran signs upto some sort of peacedeal, and not make the biggest mistake of the century(to escalate/aggravate the situation in the middle east)

I don't think it will last long.

What happened? The US utilized a good portion of their bunker busters and said "you want more of this??"

Iran did a calculated response to say "Tit for tat, we realize you are stronger right now"

So the ceasefire is up, as Iran cannot fight two wars at once. I'm sure they recognize the days of a united United States response is limited, and they are just biding their time. Iran is Atlantic, China is Pacific, and the president who vowed never to start wars will soon find himself out of assets.

If the USA wanted a ceasefire then why did they attack Iran?

Lets break it down barney style .....Trump is the daddy and daddy made the tough decision for the quarrelling kids who wanted to throw stones at each other and when one kid thought he would make a petrol bomb and throw it at the other kid, daddy said enough is enough and took away the can of petrol and told them to work things out without any petrol involved and once they shake hands and learn to act like adults he would help them fix up the yard and build them nice big treehouses.

All hail daddy Trump and lets piss on the warmongers who wanted to blow up the world. Daddy Trump gonna make us all rich. Even the ayatollah gonna be drivin the lambo with the top down when daddy gets this shit rollin. Daddy can be president for life once he pamps the shit outta all our corn and we become cryptocorn ballers. Stop yer whining and get in the car because daddys at the wheel now and we all headin down to the club big stylz Grin

Only the other kid already had a petrol bomb, and killed exponentially more of first kids brothers and little sisters.

Quote from: franky1 on June 24, 2025, 08:36:10 PM

Quote from: silpersurfer on June 24, 2025, 08:19:01 PM

Trump wants peace, but what I can't understand is why they attacked Iran. Israel is the one who started this war, so it should be Israel who should be stopped, not Iran.

Trump claims to be a hero of peace, but in reality what he did only made the situation worse, which made Iran close the door tightly to taking the diplomatic route. And most recently Iran after the attack carried out by the US, in just a few moments Iran immediately attacked the US military base in Qatar. Indeed, the attack was not fatal, but the attack showed that they would never give up even though their opponent was the United States. In addition, in reality what Trump did was criticized by various parties and even from his own people.

isreal is not the ones shouting for wanting genocide

iran wants to nuke isreal and the US

also it was iran that funded its proxies to do the attacks on oct 7th 2023
and since that date houthi(iran proxy) & hamas(iran proxy) have been constantly fighting, looting, and attacking isreali's
if the houthi and hamas were not invoved. the palestinians would be fed and prospering.. but iran doesnt want peace and co-existance

hamas(iran proxy) want to depopulate isreal so they can expand palestine(gaza) into bigger territory and call isreal 'palestine'

houthi and hamas have destroyed aid shipments supplied by UN/isreal/US/eqypt which was destined for innocent palestinians.
the aid that does get in, gets looted before it reaches aid stations
..but then the hamas try to say that its isreal thats starving innocent palestinians by not sending even more supplies

many aid missions were stopped or suspended due to the risk of harm to the aid volunteers.. isreal restarted shipments of aid this spring but with military guard, and when the aid trucks get ambushed, hamas again treat it as isreal being the cause of the chaos created due to the ambush

iran recently (weeks ago) declared they dont want to re-sign into any peace deal (they dont want to be part of the NPT)
they declined attending meetings. they then raised further terror threats by mentioning they have capability to make nukes and they want to have nukes and possibly use nukes..

this then escalated when iran struck a US embassy which in legal terms is a declaration of war on the US. and so the US had the legal right to intervene directly.
the US and Isreal set targets to disable the nuclear research and capability.. whilst iran were just randomly striking civilian locations

I guess neither is good, but what's worse, shouting for wanting genocide or actually committing genocide while pretending that you're not? Roll Eyes

Quote from: https://www.un.org/unispal/document/un-special-committee-press-release-19nov24/

A genocide is unfolding before our eyes: History will not forgive our inaction, UN Special Committee warns General Assembly 4th Committee report

Quote from: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide

UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war

Quote from: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976

There are "reasonable grounds" to believe that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories said on Tuesday.