Quote from: franky1 on July 12, 2025, 01:47:53 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on July 12, 2025, 09:42:14 AM

Quote from: DaRude on July 12, 2025, 02:35:08 AM

Quote from: franky1 on July 11, 2025, 10:03:38 AM

I haven't heard a scarier justification than it's the other sides fault and they're leaving Israelis no choice but to massacre tens of thousands of innocent women, children and babies. At least lie and say that it's not happening at such scale, and that few kids that did die were from over eating ice cream or something. Your ridiculous attempts to justify such horrendous loss of innocent lives is actually making this exponentially worse for Israel side

Ask him about the genocide starting from 1940s when the Zionists first came to Palestine and began establishing their first terrorist cells in the country and started the occupation process until 1987 when HAMAS was first established.

gotta laugh at pooya and DaRule both saying im justifying genocide
its not isreal tht is shouting the desire to massacre an entire nation or race.. yet iran are.. so its pooya and his ilk that want complete obliteration of a entire race/religion/nation

isreals target is not to obliterate all palestinians. its to take out hamas (a terror group sponsored by iran with iraninan intentions)
heck even hamas are willing to kill palestinians. so hamas are not innocent of anything

isreal have offered multiple peace opportunities. isreal have sent in more food supplies than needed.. enough to cover until mid 2026.. and yet its not reaching the starving palestinians due to hamas controlling the hoarded supplies

isreal is not performing genocide. yet the iran regime wants genocide
iran/hamas mantra: "death to isreal, death to america" sounds like genocide to me. also instead of saying destruction of IDF the iran/hamas rhetoric is not limited to military or authority targets, they want the destruction to jewish and isreal targets akak "zionists", thus again proof of genocide

Quote from: pooya87 on July 12, 2025, 09:42:14 AM

Oh I know, the al-Qaeda sympathizer Franky wants to convince everyone that everything started on October 7, 2023 when the Zionist occupiers took the biggest hit in 70+ years of their occupation of Palestine...

isreal have 3000 years+ known occupation of "from the river to the sea".. yet, palestine had mistakenly been recognised by british memorandum for just 25 years of occupancy status of the land

palestine(philistines) only have old history of the gaza area 2000+ years ago.. thus isreal has more provenance
even the persian empire does not have as much history as the isrealites

but its funny how pooya wants to forget and not want to look at the atrocities performed by hamas/iran on random innocents, where there was no military target in the area's hit by hamas/iran proxys, so hamas cant even say the innocents were just background collateral..

Perhaps there's misunderstanding in definitions Huh

A rather very simple question for you: please define "proportionality of a response", and a "genocide". That is, what threshold must be crossed for you to say that the loss of innocent lives in Gaza would be considered a genocide? Or are you're claiming that there are no limits, numbers don't matter, and Israel can wipe out million of innocent women and children in Gaza and you would still consider it a proportional response as long as IDF draws a happy face and writes "only use on Hamas" on every bullet or some other justification?

Quote from: paxmao on July 12, 2025, 10:32:19 AM

You should also rename the Strait of Aden to the "Strait of Iran" and perhaps the 4th of July to "the day of the sheep".

The OP and the respondants here share something in common: they cry a lot about what the US does, but keep very silent about their own sadistic regimes. Particularly, Iran is sponsoring terrorism while claiming that the US strikes killed children and DaRude trollfarm inmates claim while Ruzzia is attacking Ukrainian cities without any particular military objective.

I think people do know you around here by now.

Stop trying to steal spotlight for Ukraine everywhere. Give me population, amount of explosives launched, duration of a conflict, and amount of "collateral damage" in civilian lives for Gaza and Ukraine. You know hard numbers. Once we have the ratio, and scale, then we can objectively discuss who should be condemned and sanctioned more. Very easy to pull up even AI will do it, but i'm guessing you won't do it because, you know, maths don't really matter when you have an agenda to serve

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