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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 14:33:21 UTC
60% to chips. 30% to IMET. 10% + the Loan to deliver miners.  Bankruptcy costs money, and we thought if the market held we may have been able to pull through. The idea was to get clients something instead of leaving them with nothing.

What happened with the IMET money? Did you recover anything? If not then why?

The IMET proceedings are still on going. The priority was the class action not the IMET suit. If you only have X for legal, you spend X on the most immediate concern. When the class action has come to a resolve, the IMET proceedings will continue.

But I thought that the class action was the result of the IMET thing. Why didn't you start with IMET proceedings before the class action?

The class action was filed on April 2nd, we still had issues with IMET's productions as well as and promises of success from them as well. The IMET case was filed sometime in May, because we were dealing with the beginning proceedings of the class action. If the class action never exsisted we would have only sued IMET, we would have won and went to China two months earlier and everyone would have received their miners.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 14:20:38 UTC
Yep and anytime you want them back feel free to pick them up. Considering your history on accepting returns not even going to try.

Rich, pretty hostile these days.
Hostile ? No.
For obvious reasons I have strong sympathies to the Business World but I also have very strong business morals. (and no that is not an oxymoron) At almost every turn you have dismissed the notion that customers are Customers. With a big 'C'. Regardless of outside circumstances one does not screw them over, post personal information, etc.

We ran out of money. What would have you done?

Figure out a way to make it right. You instead opted to dox people who called you out. Not just me, clenell, mrpark. I was even helping you figure out ways to make it right BUT then you stated you kept making excuses and looking for ways around getting out of it. Hence my reasons for acting against you.

You were a mole Tony, you admitted it several times and it was obvious since June. We acted accordingly. Why don't you find a hole like the mole that you are and crawl into it and hibernate for the winter. And let us address the community with out plan of action.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 14:16:40 UTC
Yep and anytime you want them back feel free to pick them up. Considering your history on accepting returns not even going to try.

Rich, pretty hostile these days.
Hostile ? No.
For obvious reasons I have strong sympathies to the Business World but I also have very strong business morals. (and no that is not an oxymoron) At almost every turn you have dismissed the notion that customers are Customers. With a big 'C'. Regardless of outside circumstances one does not screw them over, post personal information, etc.

We ran out of money. What would have you done?
Been honest and open about the situation with the customers. In the end if needed, file for bankruptcy.
Yes for a while at least you were truly scrambling to make something out of this mess and a Tip of the Visor to that but - it still does not excuse your egregious violations of legally mandated Customers Rights.

Saying a client's name on a forum once or twice while he says the names of our employees hundreds of time does not violate customer rights. Anyway, we're beyond that. He has 24 hours to delete his crap or his reputation online may be affected. But please know, it will not be any AMT staff, affiliated person, or hired resource of AMT. Just someone that really doesn't like him and how he's treated AMT. You all already know him anyway.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:55:20 UTC
Yep and anytime you want them back feel free to pick them up. Considering your history on accepting returns not even going to try.

Rich, pretty hostile these days.
Hostile ? No.
For obvious reasons I have strong sympathies to the Business World but I also have very strong business morals. (and no that is not an oxymoron) At almost every turn you have dismissed the notion that customers are Customers. With a big 'C'. Regardless of outside circumstances one does not screw them over, post personal information, etc.

We ran out of money. What would have you done when our glorious customers are purposely ruining our reputation everyday, despite receiving their miners?
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Re: UNOfficial AMT Thread round 3: The Uncensored version.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:52:49 UTC


FOR THE REAL UNOFFICIAL AMT THREAD #3.  PLEASE CLICK HERE.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.0

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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:45:50 UTC
Yep and anytime you want them back feel free to pick them up. Considering your history on accepting returns not even going to try.

Rich, pretty hostile these days.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:41:42 UTC

Oh Josh.. you seem to have forgotten just who made that chat room - ME. EVERYTHING POSTED THERE IS 100% ACCURATE. For those who need a refresher course in reality, here you go:
https://sites.google.com/site/hpulhp/home/files/AMT-NDA%20Room%20chats%20to%20date%20names%20REDACTED%20.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1

We've always liked you Rich, but if that were a true skype chat wouldn't you be in breach of your NDA? And no one cares about 200 pages of a bullshit skype chat where you and tony are doing most of the talking. Really, who cares? All of the 156 clients that we have? The micro community that's left on this forum?  Again Rich, with respect please do stay out of these distractions or arguments. Ja is there no relief for the son of a window?

You mean the NDA that you never signed? Takes more than one party to make an agreement bucko. Yes it 100% true and no I am not in violation.
That aside, the real IP points are all in the pm chats which even though am NOT legally bound to keep sealed (remember? You never signed anything?) I still am. Professionalism and all that ya know? Scratch that - you wouldn't.

It was signed by us and exists in our attorney's records. And while we need to work on professionalism, that is for sure, we still do respect you Rich, and we felt above all people you'd understand our actions as of lately. See Rich you've inspired greatness.

Strange, the original copy I have from you has no signature from you or your representative(s).
Nor did you return to me a signed copy of the amended NDA I prepared. Without formal acknowledgement of the amendment it remains unenforceable by either party.

Not to be a dick, but we did send you a few packages with corrupt boards, testing materials and everything else right?
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:36:19 UTC
Fact is this post is not about anything but attacking me. What future plans have you detailed? So far it's been about attacking me. And now you have put my wife in the crosshairs as well.

Who's attacking who?  Why don't you delete everything, shut up and play your video games. See we're on their side now. And without your connections and introductions it never would have happened.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:30:20 UTC


Oh Josh.. you seem to have forgotten just who made that chat room - ME. EVERYTHING POSTED THERE IS 100% ACCURATE. For those who need a refresher course in reality, here you go:
https://sites.google.com/site/hpulhp/home/files/AMT-NDA%20Room%20chats%20to%20date%20names%20REDACTED%20.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1

We've always liked you Rich, but if that were a true skype chat wouldn't you be in breach of your NDA? And no one cares about 200 pages of a bullshit skype chat where you and tony are doing most of the talking. Really, who cares? All of the 156 clients that we have? The micro community that's left on this forum?  Again Rich, with respect please do stay out of these distractions or arguments. Ja is there no relief for the son of a window?

You mean the NDA that you never signed? Takes more than one party to make an agreement bucko. Yes it 100% true and no I am not in violation.
That aside, the real IP points are all in the pm chats which even though am NOT legally bound to keep sealed (remember? You never signed anything?) I still am. Professionalism and all that ya know? Scratch that - you wouldn't.
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It was signed by us and exists in our attorney's records. And while we need to work on professionalism, that is for sure, we still do respect you Rich, and we felt above all people you'd understand our actions as of lately. See Rich you've inspired greatness.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:23:34 UTC
I actually have not posted anything about you in a few days now, so you claim that I do this daily  is false, and libelous on your part.

.... That's a bit of a stretch.

Actually I haven't notice that all I have done is respond to others posts. But mainly I have been in other threads. Either way they have posted libelous comments on me as they made VERY false claims. Claiming I did high level work for the government and then doxing my address, puts me in very real physical danger.

No one is threatening your physical well being. Just your online reputation. Things your boss might look at. Or someone evaluating you for a job over the next few months. You have 24 hours to remove everything. Otherwise when they google Tony Serrata it's going to look exactly like it does when they google Joshua Zipkin. Hope the money was worth it pal.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:14:48 UTC
Dear AMT fans and foes,

We realize that some of our clients who have received their machines are feeling a bit hostile. We want to assure everyone that we are putting together a compensation program that will go live on December 15th, 2014 or sooner. We'll do our best to compensate clients their full loss.  Some clients have already been refunded, and we're doing the best we can every week.

Regarding the class action, we are in discovery processes. This is where plaintiffs counsel reviews all of our information, write a response and gives it to the judge to review.  

Regarding FBI claims and the PA Attorney General, we have been in contact with them and we are going to work with them very closely now. And we're excited about that.

Regarding these skype chats that they are throwing around this forum, we'll still stand to say they are complete bullshit manifested by Tony Serrata (aka Opieum2). And honestly, we couldn't give a crap about them.

WHY does Tony Serrata keep posting negative things about us on a daily basis?  Because he thinks we sell more than him. He's afraid of us.

And regarding our sales, as we've said it before we're not selling although we would like to. And the truth is we haven't sold since April 7th, 2014.

Why are we so being open, because even though we're trying to do the right thing the to the customers that want us to make them whole, are the same ones stopping up from bringing in new revenue in order to do that.

We will lay out our 3 month compensation and business plan shortly.

Oh Josh.. you seem to have forgotten just who made that chat room - ME. EVERYTHING POSTED THERE IS 100% ACCURATE. For those who need a refresher course in reality, here you go:
https://sites.google.com/site/hpulhp/home/files/AMT-NDA%20Room%20chats%20to%20date%20names%20REDACTED%20.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1

We've always liked you Rich, but if that were a true skype chat wouldn't you be in breach of your NDA? And no one cares about 200 pages of a bullshit skype chat where you and tony are doing most of the talking. Really, who cares? All of the 156 clients that we have? The micro community that's left on this forum?  Again Rich, with respect please do stay out of these distractions or arguments. Ja is there no relief for the son of a window?

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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 13:04:15 UTC
I formally request you remove ALL my personal information (name, address and work information) from  ALL of your posts. It is LIBELOUS and your statements regarding the skype chats are false. They are real chats. Please consider this an FORMAL request. If it is not done in 24 hours I will be forced to take escalated legal actions as I am under NDA's and your disclosure was done without my consent OR me volunteering said info to you the discovery of which would have been illegal on your part. please note that this has been archived due to your constant censorship. This will include immediate retractions of the threats you have posted against me and others on this forum AND official apologies for said threats, IF you are looking to mend fences, this would be a start.

Regards.


Tony Serrata. Just as you have dedicated your days to ruining our name and our business, we figure why not. We formally request that you remove all the crap you've said about AMT, Josh or any opinions you may have had whether good or bad. If you're looking to mend fences, this would be a good place to start Tony Serrata. By the time we're done with our version of an SEO slander, Liz is going to be so pissed at you that.. we'll who knows man. Start deleting Tony, the clock is ticking.  
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 12:12:56 UTC
60% to chips. 30% to IMET. 10% + the Loan to deliver miners.  Bankruptcy costs money, and we thought if the market held we may have been able to pull through. The idea was to get clients something instead of leaving them with nothing.

What happened with the IMET money? Did you recover anything? If not then why?

The IMET proceedings are still on going. The priority was the class action not the IMET suit. If you only have X for legal, you spend X on the most immediate concern. When the class action has come to a resolve, the IMET proceedings will continue.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 11:46:00 UTC
So you kept customer's money for how many months? Are you returning any interest on their money?

Actually we ran out of money in June. Josh took a loan from a friend to deliver the miners, some of the refund money came from that. In general we're broke, but we're still gonna try. Yes if possible we will try to include interest on their returns.

Why or how come did you ran out of money? Why not apply for bankruptcy?

60% to chips. 30% to IMET. 10% + the Loan to deliver miners.  Bankruptcy costs money, and we thought if the market held we may have been able to pull through. The idea was to get clients something instead of leaving them with nothing.
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Re: Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 11:30:28 UTC
Simple but effective plan to improve AMT, and make our customers whole.

1st. Improve AMT's image via small amounts of PR and marketing.
2nd. Restructuring AMT's current business model.  
3nd. Sell efficient miners to specific target ground in both US and Intl markets.
4rd. Expand core services and products for distribution or resale via AMT.
5rd. Attribute 30% of any new profit to the "refund fund".
6th. Distribute refunds to clients.
7th. Grow AMT utilizing our current lean manufacturing model.

AMT's production chain/network applies principles of lean manufacturing, quick turn build to order production and direct shipment from our manufacturers in Asia. These principles aim to minimize parts inventories by requiring suppliers to restock specific (time consuming) parts only, like heatsink extrusions or case fabrication and only as needed. Continue to improve production via modular/universal casing adapting global industrial standards to our equipment. Continue to reduce costs by acquiring location based manufacturers or suppliers of parts in order to save on logistics. Exp. Make heat sinks in Turkey instead of shipping 200kgs of aluminum from china. Emphasize on AMT's build to order focal point as well as product customization and OEM production, as well as a central point for direct sales, logistics,  procurement and delivery. Improve customer service via third party support teams. Work closely with high speed US brass factories, provide erudition as we get squared away.  We'll elaborate more on this, but that is our general strategy. We hope those of you which support AMT will continue to do so and help us along the way. It's not easy for any company to deal with what we've dealt with, but we're sticking to our goals and will continue build AMT with the ultimately goal of making all of our initial customers feel whole.

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Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans.
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AMT_miners
on 21/10/2014, 11:18:22 UTC
Dear AMT fans and foes,

We realize that some of our clients who have received their machines are feeling a bit hostile. We want to assure everyone that we are putting together a compensation program that will go live on December 15th, 2014 or sooner. We'll do our best to compensate clients their full loss.  Some clients have already been refunded, and we're doing the best we can every week.

Regarding the class action, we are in discovery processes. This is where plaintiffs counsel reviews all of our information, write a response and gives it to the judge to review.  

Regarding FBI claims, FTC claims and the PA Attorney General, we have been in contact with all of them and we are going to work with them very closely now. And we're excited about that.

Regarding these skype chats that they are throwing around this forum, we'll still stand to say they are complete bullshit manifested by Tony Serrata (aka Opieum2). And honestly, we couldn't give a crap about them.

WHY does Tony Serrata keep posting negative things about us on a daily basis?  Because he thinks we sell more than him. He's afraid of us.

And regarding our sales, as we've said it before we're not selling although we would like to. And the truth is we haven't sold since April 7th, 2014.

Why are we so being open, because even though we're trying to do the right thing the to the customers that want us to make them whole, are the same ones stopping up from bringing in new revenue in order to do that.

We will lay out our 3 month compensation and business plan shortly.

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Re: AMT users thread.
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AMT_miners
on 09/10/2014, 04:59:12 UTC
AGAIN prove that it was my intention to bankrupt you? YOU still have not offered ANYTHING but your own word (which means nothing to anyone here) that that was my goal. PROVE IT!!! I am challenging you and calling you out on it. Cmon man prove that I had that intent from at least June quote a post or show a chat...because you already changed your story once by stating from the beginning (which would be February for me). So prove it and stop posting libelous crap against me. Because I do have PLENTY of cause now against you. You can keep tossing that slander word around and threatening me with a lawsuit. But you have already posted enough libelous crap against me making false claims about employment not to mention a host of consumer privacy laws you broke in just posting my name without my consent. So do you want to keep this going? Seems to me (my opinion) you are just here to try to get sales....and playing the martyr to gather sales, of course that is my opinion and I don't know for sure that is your agenda, but it sure seems like it.

What about those of us who lost thousands due to your delays in delivery and ROI you promised via MPP? We all lost a lot waiting on you, we lost money, time, while you used the funds to fight a lawsuit (instead of quickly settling to save money and make things right) with the money we invested into your company (your words that we invested into your company), you can try to ignore me or try to sue me out of this, but you have also proven that you also have created a financial loss for everyone here. I will keep on pressing on you until you do the right thing by your customers. YOU have stated you would bankrupt yourself to make the refunds happen. That is YOUR statement not mine. I had no reason to make that an agenda as you made it one yourself. You already said it yourself. We INVESTED in your company. And you are "intending" to pay people back in a preferential manner. That much you have already clearly stated. Again Joshua Zipkin stop trying to pretend it is not you. Otherwise who is actually suing me then? Amanda? Jeanette? Jessica? Because that would require I personally offended a person. And that would amount to admission as to who actually is writing these posts which could invalidate whatever case you claim you have against me and others who have spoken up against you.

Tony Serratta,

Lets just say your right, ok buddy. Although you did not invest, you paid for a pre-ordered machine and you received it.  Your sole purpose for the last month was to distract clients and staff alike. Your claims of helping our company help the community is pure bullshit, otherwise you wouldn't have recruited people for the class action while assisting us at the same time. Nor would you sign up for it yourself for that matter. You wouldn't have sent mass emails to all potential clients informing them about an FBI filing and the course of action to take, if you believed in our company as you lied about so many times. And you wouldn't have filed with the FTC either during that time. Just like you wouldn't have worked with lenell or the lawyers while you were still "assisting us".  Tony several people in this industry invested and lost including us, we're still willing to try and help clients return gains through hard work and sales, but you specifically have recently made it very difficult. You're a distraction, and only that. One that was seen from a mile away, well maybe not a mile, but across the parking lot for sure. And we're not suing you for slander. We will sue you, as AMT, and again we're not paying for it so its nice for once.

Gotta run guys, it's been real.

10% off for all existing AMT clients.

- AMT


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Re: AMT users thread.
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AMT_miners
on 09/10/2014, 04:17:26 UTC
And I could have become a HUGE customer of yours. My first order with you, BFL and anyone else making miners were TRIAL orders. You still don't get it,so enjoy your pizza.

It's difficult to believe someone who files a complaint with us in DE and then signs up for a class action against us is going to be our biggest customer. But ok yea sure.
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Re: AMT users thread.
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AMT_miners
on 09/10/2014, 04:14:33 UTC
Facts are I can show TIME after TIME you lied about said shipment. I agreed to those at THOSE times. BUT you failed to deliver every single time. When I kicked up the most is when you re-routed SOMEONE ELSES ORDER to my house which was a lucky coincidence not planning on your part. You did not even have my actual tracking number in the system until you converted that order which still (and I have the proof still) that the order was meant for someone else who refused the order. I have ALL the proof and documentation to show that YOU failed to deliver until I raised a massive complaint. You had to address it because you know what that means. So you CAN sue me. But you will find that the facts are all in my favor. The court cares about what can be shown not what you say. I have everything to show you lied time after time after time. So yea I might spend some time and money fighting you, but well, the facts are there no matter what you say. I have ALL the paperwork to show it.

I don't care if you are a 26 year old or a 40 year old. Your sympathy act is just another false act here, Fact is you lied and did not deliver consistently. You even admitted we are investors in your company AND have threatened people. With physical harm. Me you decided and still are posting my info publicly without my consent. You are the CEO of AMT miners, your information is a matter of public record. I am/was a client, as such you have information that is privileged and is deemed confidential BY law. There are strict laws in many nations about consumer info. But you are incorporated in the USA, So those statutes apply to you.

First off how do you KNOW what my motives are? Firstly, I never stated I was out to bankrupt you so how do you KNOW this? Back up that claim with some proof. Real proof. I stated clearly again and again that my goal was to get refunds for all of us who you wronged. YOU freely stated you would, BUT have provided no timeline, or action plan. Just "intentions". Intentions mean nothing. I already told you. Make things right with us first, then we back off. I will be the first to make it right. I can admit IF I have been wrong. But so far you have done very little if anything to prove you are trying to even do the right thing. It seems more like you are looking to get away with it, again your own words damn you in that, I can repost those skype chats for reference. And funny that after we talked about posting the FULL content of those chats, you decided to post rebuttals. Worried? You should be.

Fact is I did not close the official threads twice because people were complaining. I did not lie to anyone about shipping hardware, I did not lie to anyone about refunds. I did not state next week and things are shipping when they were not, I did however support your customers, once you dumped that responsibility on me in a public way.....are you denying you did dropped the support of YOUR clients on me and not compensating me, or was it just an act of malicious intent?

I will write long factually detailed posts when you post just to make sure all ground is covered, since you claim I am slandering you.

The only thing AMT produces is lies. So if they post here or not it really doesn't matter. They are corrupt liars, and will reap what they sow when it comes time to meet their maker.  They only care about themselves, the only time they will help someone if they can take someone's money in exchange for low grade used inferior products worth far less than the customers paid or nothing at all.  Shameful company. Disgusting...

Please note it is not a them. Its a him. Joshua Zipkin is the sole person who speaks for his company if you want to call it that. He outsources work to others altho I do think his family handles operations in the US, seeing a there are people associated with him who handle shipping. But in all Joshua Zipkin is the one who does the talking. It's easy to see it's him even with the sock puppets.

AMT has a dedicated staff of 10 people. Your an idiot.

Oh right some of them are your family. Jeannette W. is one of them lives at your PA address correct? As perhaps even your other relative Jessica Z I imagine? You put my family in the crosshairs by claiming I was a classified high level worker for the government. I am not letting that shit go any time soon. I have no interest in anything happening to anyone. But you dragged my family into this....and put us into danger with your statements. I have not doxxed your address like you did mine. I suppose I could, but as you said honor and honesty and all that. Let someone else handle that task if they wish.

As for idiot......well you clearly owned the fact that you have a DEDICATED which is FULL TIME staff of 10 people. That means you have money to make this work. Money that is not being used to make things right with the customers ALL of them regardless of their naughty or nice status. Since you play favorites with your customers that too is going to hurt you in court. But you know since you don't like to comment on here, YOUR OWN WORDS, it seems unimportant what I say. Guess I am an idiot for even responding to you. Or I am imagining I am replying to you since you are not supposed to be replying here Joshua Zipkin aka AMT_Miners, since you don't have the balls to actually admit it's you actually penning these posts. And no I won't stop until justice is done on you. Eye for an eye is that not what you believe? You made it clear you are a racist. But the eye for an eye idea in Judaism does make alot of sense. I am not one for turn the other cheek cause that just means getting your ass kicked. Since you stole money from us, is it not karma (buddist? idea) that you do not make money as well? I imagine your karma will change once you make things right with those you have wronged. EVERYONE not just a select few you deem your nice list.

Yea several eastern Europeans, a few part timers in philly and a few chinese. Roughly 6k a month.  We're not getting into this with you because its exactly what you want, to waist time. You'll be sued and you'll pay a lot for it and that's that. Really you deserve it.

Listen Tony, all of this crap that you're doing, doesn't mean a damn thing. Your fighting with a 26 year old who tried to build a business on a dime and eventually actually shipped you your product, after you agreed to receive it several times even though it was late. We know the refund is not your motive, your motive is to bankrupt us. It's too obvious. Just like in the beginning, no one helps someone else for 3-4 hours a day on a forum battling trolls like Phin for nothing.




We've already compiled your slander into the filing.  And shipping started just a few weeks after josh was in china. We shipped by order number, your order 1400 something and still jumped several others. If your complaining about getting your miner before someone else who deserved it more because they ordered in November instead of February. Either way you're bringing up crap so that we comment on it so you can elaborate on it and bla bla.  And yes, we handed off the possible 6 clients that would come on this forum off to you or anyone else really for support, because we don't want to support people on a public forum which characters like yourself. Several support requests have came in via and we took care of them one by one.

We still have the intent to refund clients, and the reason we didn't provide an action plan was because we didn't know. We knew we built a new model of a miner that is more applicable to data centers and possibly more interesting. We didn't know Tony Serratta would become our next troll and write crap about us everyday which would effect sales. We did know that our miners were working and we felt comfortable enough to ship them to clients and start sales again. Really..  An action plan was never given because we sell a machine who's value is based on a deregulated currency's price, consumer sentiment, and our reputation.  But the intention was there yes, as you already knew.

There's no point in arguing with you, and you're motives were obvious since June. But really there is no point because no one reads our thread, because our clients don't come from here and we have so few of them anyway. Because your efforts to stop our tiny blip of a company succeeded, but mostly because we don't really care. Just passing the time until Papa Johns arrives honestly.  


Fucking grow up.  This reads like a post from a 8-year old. Unbelievable. 

I really want you to be a successful bitcoin hardware seller, but when you post shit like this, I get the feeling that you are simply a fucking scam company.  GROW UP!

Well if you read the posts these guys write you would have already come to that conclusion by the 2nd or 3rd page like everyone else. There's a reason we don't write here anymore.

Maybe after November 10th, if we hold out until then things could turn up.
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Re: AMT users thread.
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AMT_miners
on 09/10/2014, 03:56:09 UTC
your new product is nothing but a Prisma block erupter which I buy for 1.5 BTC (maybe even cheaper, I have to check)  all day long now. I am not a dummy when it comes to mining.

And we don't say its anything different than that. But it comes with a PSU and Rackmount case and fans which would retail for $350 at least. Just providing some convenience to the customer for a $50 mark up.