Yeah, you’re absolutely right, most of the exchangers listed on BestChange are just WhiteBIT resellers.

The only real “advantage” they offer over going directly through WhiteBIT is that you don’t need to create an account or go through KYC.

But it turns out there are exceptions to that too… and apparently, they’re pretty common.

So yeah, I was right.

If you want to complain, take it up with Bitpanda, this isn’t Stake’s fault.

The two exchangers you mentioned, imExchanger.pro and Openchange.cash, don’t have their own liquidity. They operate by using WhiteBIT as their "liquidity provider."

1. When you send crypto, it likely goes directly to a WhiteBIT deposit address. 
2. They then process payouts from WhiteBIT and take their commission on top.

So it’s very possible that your funds were frozen by WhiteBIT, not necessarily stolen outright by the exchanger.

I’m not defending them, just pointing out how these setups typically work. It might be worth contacting WhiteBIT support directly with full transaction details and any screenshots or communication logs you have.

Also, let’s be real — we're talking about Monero here. If they received it, they can’t possibly know whether it’s “dirty” or not. So freezing it under the excuse of AML/KYC makes zero sense.

It is quite possible that Bitpanda sent LTC to the deposit address of another Stake user, and that someone is surprised to find 40 LTC for free in their account. LOL

Let me spell it out — again:

The guy wins $1.5 million — legit, clean, no exploits — and instead of focusing on that, we’ve got people bringing up the fact that he did time in Indonesia like this is some courtroom drama. What’s next, are we gonna subpoena his high school teachers to see if he cheated on a math test in 2004?

This is textbook character assassination. You can’t disprove the win, you can’t prove he cheated, so now the goal is to paint him as a “bad person” to make everyone feel like he doesn’t deserve the money. It’s transparent, it’s pathetic, and frankly, it reeks of desperation.

And let’s not pretend the “multiple accounts” thing is anything more than a fig leaf. The extra account(s) weren’t used to gamble, claim bonuses, or manipulate anything. They were inactive. Period. Maybe he’s bad with emails, or tech in general — big crime, I know. Let’s burn him at the stake for being digitally clumsy.

The win happened on a single, verified account. No foul play. No edge taken. Just a casino scrambling to protect itself from a massive payout — and weaponizing a minor technicality to do it.

If he’d won a hundred bucks, no one would care about the second account. But $1.5 million? Suddenly everyone’s a TOS expert and a moral judge.

And of course, we’ve got the usual suspects like holydarkness doing their unpaid intern routine for the casino. If you think this is a righteous stand for “the rules,” and not just an excuse to screw a big winner, I’ve got some magic beans to sell you.

This isn’t enforcement. This is corporate damage control hiding behind a smear campaign.

I just finished reading all six pages of this discussion, and honestly, I can't believe what's going on here. People are debating the player's past in Indonesia, and whether he accidentally created a second, inactive account — but no one is even questioning the fact that he legitimately won $1.5 million! So yes, he won fair and square, yet the casino is using this nonsense about a duplicate account as an excuse not to pay him out.

It's outrageous. I seriously can't understand how anyone — unless they’re being paid by the casino — could take the casino’s side on this!

The problem is that the number of "liquidity providers" used by these instant exchangers is very limited - mainly Whitebit, Huobi, and sometimes Binance, and all of them occasionally require KYC. So-called "liquidity providers" are actually exchanges through which the trades are processed, and the instant exchangers are simply acting as intermediaries, charging additional fees on top.

Yes, the 8 TB is likely the total data cloned, as they probably performed a forensic copy, which clones the entire hard drive (bit-for-bit), including even the free space. All blockchains were probably included in that data. (How much space does just Ethereum take up?)

Besides having their onion site seized, literally all their money has been confiscated and is located at the address bc1qcatv4gxq24z8hwt67sftjlnlm6dxnk04saz5zw.

Can the admin of eXch explain to us, since he’s obviously still at large, how he could be so stupid?

What you're saying is completely useless, and I don't understand why you're responding. Yes, that's what they stated in their official statement, but I mentioned the status of their domain. They had no reason to take down one domain while leaving others online, especially their main domain. According to the status I provided, which you can see by looking up the WHOIS, the domain status is 'clientHold.' You can find out what that means on Google. Therefore, their domain was likely taken down by a third party, probably at the request of someone else. If that even matters anymore.

exch.net is not working because it has been suspended.


This could only have been done by the domain registrar, likely at the request of law enforcement.

Bybit lost $1.5 billion just two months ago due to sheer carelessness and incompetence. Do you really expect them to keep running smoothly after such a colossal loss?

Would be nice if you could add a field for each listed exchanger showing whether they're using their own liquidity or acting as a reseller (e.g. doing the swap via Binance, Whitebit, etc.). That info would help users a lot when choosing where to exchange - especially for those looking to avoid the specific risks associated with AML/KYC measures.

Yes, if it reminds you of Cryptsy, it's because the same scammer who was behind Cryptsy is also behind Xegges.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CI-Aat0y9oL2clS81QAHDzFULPm2xLO2aM3d98rWME4/edit?tab=t.0

I often see that after someone wins, casinos find out they had multiple accounts, and that's considered "cheating." Have they ever "discovered" someone who loses on multiple accounts? Did they suspend that player for it?

It's similar to when they refund a deposit for someone who turned $10,000 into $100,000 because they supposedly had multiple accounts. Will they refund the deposit if someone turns $100,000 into $0?

There is nothing wrong with placing multiple orders in one day. Why is that an issue? And what exactly is this need for KYC, especially when dealing with Monero, a cryptocurrency that can’t be “dirty”? What’s suspicious about that? Who gave this anonymous Whitebit proxy exchanger the right to demand anything from anyone? Their Terms of Service mean nothing because this is not a legitimate company, and what is happening here is illegal. You can claim in your TOS that you have the right to hold onto all coins, but that doesn’t make it legal, and it doesn’t change the fact that this situation is theft.



Public pressure should be applied to both you and the shady exchanger.

The real mistake was trusting you in the first place, and if anyone continues to trust you, they’ll only end up making the same mistake.

Honestly, nothing surprises me here. If the user registered via VPN, deposited, and lost a billion dollars, there wouldn't be any issues.
But the moment it comes to a withdrawal—any kind of withdrawal—suddenly "rule violations", KYC, and accessing from an unauthorized location become a problem.

In this case, it’s simple: just stop the user from playing, but let her withdraw the affiliate commissions she’s earned.

Why is that a problem? What law is stopping you from doing that? But no, casino owners are well-known for being immoral, greedy scumbags, and honestly, they all act the same way.

Does any casino require KYC before the user requests a withdrawal? Of course not.

Honestly, nothing surprises me here. If the user registered via VPN, deposited, and lost a billion dollars, there wouldn't be any issues.
But the moment it comes to a withdrawal—any kind of withdrawal—suddenly "rule violations" and accessing from an unauthorized location become a problem.

In this case, it’s simple: just stop the user from playing, but let her withdraw the affiliate commissions she’s earned.

Why is that a problem? What law is stopping you from doing that? But no, casino owners are well-known for being immoral, greedy scumbags, and honestly, they all act the same way.

Does any casino require KYC before allowing a withdrawal? Of course not.

This site uses the same script, is registered through the same domain registrar, and is hosted on the same server as Swapgate.io. The terms are exactly the same as on Swapgate, and the same person is behind it as Connection Between Swapgate.io and Quickex.io