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Re: ⚠️ Seeking Fair Resolution: Shuffle Casino Using Retaliatory KYC after 2 years.
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Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 19:09:18 UTC
Based on this story they clearly just didn't want to pay commission to you anymore and were trying to find any reason not to pay you anymore. Granted you made a really stupid mistake - providing them with fake kyc documents for some reason (even though asking for kyc 2 years later for such a established account with ton of referrals, cmon). If the kyc part wasn't the case I would totally sue them for that. Kyc or not, they don't honor the referral program and don't the deserve the business you brought them at all.

Exactly. If this is about compliance, why not turn my account into a withdrawal only account? If it has nothing to do with greed, why has Simba not been given bonuses that include the commission they are no longer paying me? Why does Shuffle get to keep my players, all their money, my account, my airdrop and the $300,000 I lost in my time there. It makes no sense.


This seems like an absolutely fair option and addresses all the claimed issues are far as I can see...?

Apart from if the real reason isn't as claimed and is them being tight asses, or a personal issue.
If that's the case, they're fucked in the head and total dicks.
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
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Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 19:02:33 UTC
Firstly it was a simple yes or no question.

Please stop obfuscating the point.
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
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Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 13:45:29 UTC
If you can Ralph, Just answer me this.

Do you believe that from your words in chat, would it be reasonable for someone to assume from this that you're buying accounts?

If not.  Why not?

Moreover, I see that the casino want to refund his deposits which is pretty good gesture from the casino. The player should know that not all casinos refund the deposits.

Right!?!
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
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Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 13:01:54 UTC
If you can Ralph, Just answer me this.

Do you believe that from your words in chat, would it be reasonable for someone to assume from this that you're buying accounts?

If not.  Why not?



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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
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Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 12:52:25 UTC
Hahahah , what should I comment to something as silly as that. Would you mind sharing a screenshot of our nano interactions to see actually who sent what to who?? You only sent back to me cause you originally begged me. Also why don't you share the ss of our tips exchanges. Isn't that true that you haven't send anything back from the last 10 tips I have sent you and would always comment and beg again?

You don't even know what those numbers replicates on the screenshot so it's better to not comment on anything you are unaware of. Nanogames couldn't prove that I have any other account or alt cause I don't her. And are you trying to accuse mod of taking bribe from me and putting in wrong words?? Please provide evidence that shows anything you are saying is correct. Aren't you in jail right now for fraud and criminal activities?

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4. Your Obligations as a Player

4.1. You hereby declare and warrant that:

4.2. You are not allowed to transfer, sell and/or acquire, user accounts.

8. Breaches, Penalties and Termination
8.1. If you breach any provision of these User Agreement or we have a reasonable ground to suspect that you have breached them, we reserve the right to not open, to suspend, or to close your Member Account, or withhold payment of your winnings and apply such funds to any damages due by you.



This brings us right to the same wall I am facing with my Shuffle issues.

Yes, they are technically "allowed" to do these things.
Yes, they have created TOS that basically give them power to do anything they want
No, it doesn't mean we should continue to allow them to.
Yes, if enough people decide we as a community deserve better, things will change.

Everyone here who knows Ralph, knows he is a real player and not committing fraud or cheating any systems. He won and deserves his winnings.

The difference here is the arguement has just dramatically shifted from they're breaching what they write in the terms and conditions!
To we don't give a fuck what the rules are, we just want what we want regardless.

Sorry but doesn't work that way

Shit I'm impressed they gave him back the deposits. Call that a win and count yourself lucky ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

And no not everybody here knows him as that. Speak for yourself.

First time I spoke to Ralph he'd just asked for a send, which I did. Then he said they had blocked that account send it to him on his other account.
So I sent again.

He has 450 fkn alts from that count. He was never exonerated from anything, In fact he knows he's guilty as fk of affiliate system abuse. Begged smokes and probably paid her for her to put in a word and get it unblocked.
Now he's fkn embarrassed her in front of the others at nano.
From what I understand it, shows those alts and device IDs, support saying concurrent use of both accounts I'm going to assume he's from the same phone and he's just using different browsers or some shit lazy like that lol. There's not even a question of him multi-accounting and abusing affiliate systems. It's a fact.
No he wasn't buying and selling nano accounts. But he was facilitating the buying of BC accounts, which nano is almost a carbon copy of. Is it unreasonable for them to think that he would do the same type of shit with them? No
How I read that email is basically saying look we tried to give you a fkn chance we gave you more than fking one.
But you keep trying to screw us so FK off ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ And they have every right to. I would if I was in their position 100%

I wasn't talking about who sent more
I was speaking to the fact that you said to send it to one account and it got locked so you said send it to your other one
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
by
Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 12:39:25 UTC
I'm genuinely surprised to see you talking about rules and moral high grounds here. Aren't you currently in prison? How exactly are you accessing the internet from jail? If you're already disregarding legal boundaries and your own commitments, perhaps it's better to focus on addressing your own issues before commenting on matters you clearly don't fully grasp. It's ironic and almost laughable for someone actively breaking rules to lecture others about them. I wonder if the authorities are aware of this behavior and the potentially dangerous activities you're conducting from behind bars!!

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This brings us right to the same wall I am facing with my Shuffle issues.

I'm not 100% across yours, but from what I saw you were operating within the bounds of the affiliate system though?
They just decided with your affiliate guy that you had too sweet a deal.. But it was what they offered..

And that stuff was locked before you were KYC?
Regardless don't want to cross the issues and I don't think they're remotely comparable .

Ralph 100% broke rules as they are,  knew it when he was doing so, Or he would have been doing it on BC to begin with.
Has a history already with the site and seems like he was on his last chance.
They gave back depos.

I think they were more than fair to him

There's a big difference.
I don't agree with societies drug laws, And I don't really give a shit about their consequences. So I'm free to do what I want and live with it Smiley Do you hear me complaining?

If you want to break the rules that you have to live with the consequences.
Yours is being banned and you coin confiscated.
I don't want that so I don't do it 👍🏼
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
by
Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 10:03:35 UTC
They do however show that what he did in chat was vague at most and not a clear violation that would be valid to keep his money. Not at all .


"hey, do you want to sell your account?"
But DM me about it on another platform.

How, on God's green earth. Is that not enough to have reasonable grounds to suspect a player of breaching the terms to not buy/sell/trade accounts?

And yes I know that Ralph was doing it for a different site but using nano to communicate about it because he knows he would have been banned straight away on BC doing it.
So he took advantage of nano not being quite as rigorous but was mistaken once they were informed apparently.

And Jesus Christ Ralph does that say you had 450 alts or am I reading it wrong? Lol


Any free or popularly used VPN service would explain why 450 other accounts would be associated to the same IP.
An the 20 on the device?
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
by
Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 09:43:47 UTC
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This brings us right to the same wall I am facing with my Shuffle issues.

I'm not 100% across yours, but from what I saw you were operating within the bounds of the affiliate system though?
They just decided with your affiliate guy that you had too sweet a deal.. But it was what they offered..

And that stuff was locked before you were KYC?
Regardless don't want to cross the issues and I don't think they're the same.

Ralph 100% broke rules as they are,  knew it when he was doing so, Or he would have been doing it on BC to begin with.
Has a history already with the site and seems like he was on his last chance.
They gave back depos.

I think they were more than fair to him
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
by
Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 09:18:57 UTC
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4. Your Obligations as a Player

4.1. You hereby declare and warrant that:

4.2. You are not allowed to transfer, sell and/or acquire, user accounts.

8. Breaches, Penalties and Termination
8.1. If you breach any provision of these User Agreement or we have a reasonable ground to suspect that you have breached them, we reserve the right to not open, to suspend, or to close your Member Account, or withhold payment of your winnings and apply such funds to any damages due by you.



This brings us right to the same wall I am facing with my Shuffle issues.

Yes, they are technically "allowed" to do these things.
Yes, they have created TOS that basically give them power to do anything they want
No, it doesn't mean we should continue to allow them to.
Yes, if enough people decide we as a community deserve better, things will change.

Everyone here who knows Ralph, knows he is a real player and not committing fraud or cheating any systems. He won and deserves his winnings.

The difference here is the arguement has just dramatically shifted from they're breaching what they write in the terms and conditions!
To we don't give a fuck what the rules are, we just want what we want regardless.

Sorry but doesn't work that way
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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
by
Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 03:55:18 UTC
 They do however show that what he did in chat was vague at most and not a clear violation that would be valid to keep his money. Not at all .

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"hey, do you want to sell your account?"
But DM me about it on another platform.

How, on God's green earth. Is that not enough to have reasonable grounds to suspect a player of breaching the terms to not buy/sell/trade accounts?

And yes I know that Ralph was doing it for a different site but using nano to communicate about it because he knows he would have been banned straight away on BC doing it.
So he took advantage of nano not being quite as rigorous but was mistaken once they were informed apparently.

And Jesus Christ Ralph does not say you had 450 alts or am I reading it wrong? Lol


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Re: Account Banned and $24000 In Winnings Withheld by NanoGames.io!!! Be Careful.
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Jayholio
on 29/11/2024, 03:47:42 UTC
Or not...whoa how TF do we put a pic here... Lol
8. Breaches, Penalties and Termination

>
4. Your Obligations as a Player

4.1. You hereby declare and warrant that:

4.2. You are not allowed to transfer, sell and/or acquire, user accounts.


8.1. If you breach any provision of these User Agreement or we have a reasonable ground to suspect that you have breached them, we reserve the right to not open, to suspend, or to close your Member Account, or withhold payment of your winnings and apply such funds to any damages due by you.


Ok this is the part that makes me KNOW that NANO is in the wrong.

This is a direct quote from their terms of service pages as seen herehttps://nanogames.io/help/agreement

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"6.2. We have the right to remove the chat room functionality or immediately terminate your Member Account and refund your account balance if you:

(a) make any statements that are sexually explicit or grossly offensive, including expressions of bigotry, racism, hatred or profanity;
(b) make statements that are abusive, defamatory or harassing or insulting"
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The list of reasons continues for a while but they say it there themselves. They will refund account balance to those who are removed because of chat rule violations.

The reasons they gave other than the broken chat rule were all determined to be forgiven when they previously let him back into his account. 
If this goes according to their own posted rules and terms they are supposed to return his balance, not just his deposit.  Otherwise, they should have to return all his deposits from the date of the first (resolved) infractions. That might be a bit more expensive than the winnings so it would be smart to just give the guy his money. 

They owe him that money.
Period. 

Here is a screen shot of their written terms about chat violations:

https://i.ibb.co/XZ68mH5/photo-2024-11-28-15-06-36.jpg

Regardless of how they feel about this man, they should return the funds that HE WON after being a long time player there.  It is beyond messed up that they banned him for old stuff only after he won. 



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Re: BC.Game SCAM: cancelled bonuses and revoked $150k+ USD balance on my account
by
Jayholio
on 25/12/2023, 04:05:53 UTC
They probably just dirty that you skemmed TF out of them.
🤣
Just own it now and be proud, you did it pretty well. Opportunism at its finest. But I'd ban you after that too if I was them.