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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
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NoDisco
on 24/09/2013, 22:13:57 UTC
You got straight answers from me. I've never lied to anyone on this forum.
Ha. See? You *do* know exactly why I dislike you.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 24/09/2013, 21:53:58 UTC
Then of course, there's the underfloor wiring, and server configuration to have taken place on site, plus the pool site creation and entire product creation off site. Pretty smart bunch of ditch diggers to be fair, especially to have coerced their customer service reps to be first hand familiar with the products they are supporting, when a) no one else offers customer support, and b) ever spoken to a customer service operator that actually knows their product inside out through it's own creation and assembly?
And their main PR shill knows everything he knows from 850 hours trolling on an internet forum. Nothing like 'real world' experience  Cheesy Cheesy Maybe it's time you got some blisters on your hands princess?
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
by
NoDisco
on 23/09/2013, 16:46:30 UTC

that is just like asking> bitcoinrama, are you on knc's pay list?
They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to
Look. The rodent finally admitted he is a KNC shill. Just a few days before they are supposed to ship, as his PR shill job is done. Oh the integrity!

For integrity purposes, I'll post the full quote.

Nope, and I never have been, and I've stated this numerous times. They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to, if they prove a working product. Integrity wise I will not prior, and neither have I ever told anyone to purchase from them, or anyone else until such time as they have a working product, at which point i'd be a fool not to.

So technically he is still not working for KnC but yes, please by all means resurrect this useless thread.
If it's useless, why do you feel the need to reply?

I never said he was already on the KNC payroll, but as I said in the other thread, I would not be surprised if he is in line for a free miner or two for this PR/marketing efforts. Payment in kind - you understand? He is totally impartial with a job offer on the table? Right. I'll believe that. He hasn't done a single thing to "encourage" people to buy from KNC. Right. I'll buy that too.

I even sent him a few private messages (you can see them above - oh the integrity!) when I joined the forum, as he seemed to be the go-to guy when it came to KNC. But yeah, he hasn't influenced anyone. I'll buy that.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 23/09/2013, 16:17:45 UTC
Your reading comprehension is roughly zero.
Ditto. I never said he was being "paid right now" (although I would not be surprised if he is in line for a free miner or two for this PR/marketing efforts).

But it brings a tear to my eye to see you growin' up to be just like shitorama, making shit up and being a word weasel. Either that or you are stupid, which is also highly likely.

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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 23/09/2013, 16:13:11 UTC
@NoDisco

They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to, if they prove a working product.

Gee, quoting complete sentences is really hard! I can understand that not everyone is capable of doing it, so here it is, extra for you. Now, have a bone and troll yourself.

And what does that mean? It means "I won't work for them if they are a con-job and run away with the money". Why? Because there won't be a company to work for! Typical shitcoinorama word play that means nothing.
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
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NoDisco
on 23/09/2013, 15:55:26 UTC

that is just like asking> bitcoinrama, are you on knc's pay list?
They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to
Look. The rodent finally admitted he is a KNC shill. Just a few days before they are supposed to ship, as his PR shill job is done. Oh the integrity!
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 23/09/2013, 15:51:15 UTC


that is just like asking> bitcoinrama, are you on knc's pay list?
They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to
Knew it. Knew it. Knew it.

You wait until about 4 days before they are supposed to ship to admit it.

If you are into openness and integrity, why didn't you admit this doozy in the thread you were called out as a KNC shill?

Why not? Because you have no integrity Alex, that's why. You're a sneaky rat.

And now KNC's integrity has taken a major hit in my eyes if they are willing to employ a despicable, shapeshifting little turd like you.

Well done KNC & their shill! Be happy together. Print this on your PCB's "Over-shilled and under-delivered".
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
by
NoDisco
on 22/08/2013, 23:14:33 UTC
I too can copy and paste PMs.
We can all play that game eh?

BITCOINORAMA.COM
Updated Date: 2013-04-12 18:53:17
etc.
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
by
NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 14:08:22 UTC
BTW KS, bitcoinorama has been sending personal messages to discredit you.

When you bust his lies yesterday about why KNC insist on treating their customers as businesses, i.e.

KNCMINER is shaving 1 year warranty off of your 2 years consumer warranty by using the "for business use" line.

He sent me this message:

NoDisco, just a heads up, but you may need to search through the KnC thread.

KS is a total troll, he has been proven wrong time and time again. His only intention has been to derail KnC's project from the start, pulling whatever nonsense he can from thin air. Please look through the thread's history. He overtly lies repeatedly.

He has invested over $100k in bulk Avalon assembly hardware alone, aside chips. He's consistently spreading FUD, occasionally it has had merit, but don't let his true intentions deceive you, and have a look through his KnC posting history. He was a rampant troll, and has just come back from a sabbatical now as his chips aren't turning up.
I think him calling someone a rampant troll is the pot calling the kettle black!

Anyway, I'll leave the forum. I came here naively seeking genuine answers about miners and what not. I had some really good advice from people when I asked about miner security. But it seems it's impossible to get any straight answers on this forum where people have vested interests.

Too many nutters, trolls and out and out liars. I might as well ask my elderly grandmother and get just as good answers.
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
by
NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 13:21:28 UTC
Why does this thread even exit at all? The guy is an attention whore. He went to Sweden when most couldn't be arsed to do it (probably because they didn't give a damn) and now we just can't see the end of it. (not that he was the only one either, certainly the most vocal one about it - talk about a life achievement)

He has no job, clearly no GF, so he spends all his time here, blowing smoke up his own back end and generally trolling anyone and everyone whose view doesn't align with his.

He's spent a huge amount of energy trying to convince everyone else to buy from KNCMINER not because he's a shill but because he was just trying to convince/reassure himself about the validity of his own decision. He didn't have the balls to do it before the herd did it first.

Stop giving him that much attention, he's really not worth it.
100% agreed.

He's the same kind of guy who goes round saying "Hey, I used to be in a pop band in the 70's". He can't let it go.

I'm done talking about him completely now.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 13:16:15 UTC
O'rama has contributed 100 times more than anyone else here "Disco" .
Mostly misinformation. See my post above as a good example.
Excuse me? Did YOU go to Sweden for open-day, and write for weeks about it to keep others informed? He did.
You are clueless, and best read the openday reports before you look even more stupid. Laws are different in different countries concerning credit cards, just get over it, your BS is Trivial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6rRNANSgI

I'm not wasting any more time here. Read my post above and think about how bitcoinorama has influenced you and whether it's a good or bad thing. That's all. I really don't care if you don't either.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
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NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 13:09:21 UTC
O'rama has contributed 100 times more than anyone else here "Disco" .
Mostly misinformation. See my post above as a good example.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 13:06:53 UTC
Let it go dude, we all know you have a huge man boner for Bitcoinorama.

It's obvious with the copious amount of time you spend ranting about him.

Also someone bent your tinfoil hat, you might want to go make another one.
I reponding to the lies and BS he fed me yesterday. You can check my posts - I barely posted anything in this thread before yesterday. You are fairly shill-ish too, but very few take any notice of you. Orama is the main person who's lies need to be called out.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 12:57:48 UTC
Let's just set out a few facts here:


Have a look at their official terms and conditions at their website (one had to accept before one can finalize the order).

First they strictly treat you as a business customer:

"1.2   The Products are sold for business use only and Purchaser hereby accepts that it has purchased the Products in order to conduct a business."

I specifically asked KnCMiner about this point of their terms and conditions:
Quote from: Me
Q: Hi,
I read the following clause in your terms and conditions page:

"1.2   The Products are sold for business use only and Purchaser hereby
accepts that it has purchased the Products in order to conduct a business."

What does this implies?
I don't have an EU VAT number, can I still buy your products as a private individual?
Quote from: KnCMiner
A: Hi,

Yes you can still buy our products. What it means is that we don't sell consumer goods and therefore you as a customer are expected to have made an informed decision. Ordinary consumer rights legislation does not apply to the purchase. Instead the terms and conditions regulate warranty etc.

Thanks,
Carl

So, it appears they're effectively trying to safeguard themselves against "ordinary consumer rights legislation" but I don't think that their T&C is valid if in contrast with the EU law. I'm not a lawyer but I think there is the possibility that pretending to apply business rules to consumers by means of their T&C (the contract) could be deemed as an "unfair contract term".
Obviously, since every "EU law" is actually an "EU directive", what makes a (legal) point is Sweden's implementation of the consumer rights EU directives.

By buying their products you are agreeing to the T&C and thus explicitly agreeing that you are acting as a business and thus "forfeiting" consumer rights.

This is clear in Belgian law (double checked, lawyers & all) but I'm waiting for an answer re EU law (might not be fast).

The Section 75 bit *WOULD* only apply in the UK (and I'm really not sure it would stick - CC phone operators are not exactly in charge of these things and I wouldn't be surprised if their promises/word were discarded by the first judge).

if you say you are a business, you buy business only equipment, to use for a business purpose, then you want to convince your CC company/judge you're a consumer? If it quacks like a duck...

Also, if there was to be a massive refund, it would mean bankrupcy for KNCMINER and thus no money for anyone. Alea jacta est, the only thing you can do now is wait.

Sorry, but you can't be serious that some company T&C can define if I am a business user or not. That is defined by me, not them.
They might as well write: "The Products are sold for Moon use only and Purchaser hereby accepts that it has purchased the Products in order to use them on the moon only."
If I decide to be a business I register with the tax authorities in a certain capacity (self employed person, limited company, etc)
Purchasing a product from a company online does not change my tax status or register me as a business entity Smiley

Of course I am serious.

This contract doesn't change your tax status vis à vis your Taxman, but it means you misrepresented yourself with the intent to gain access to a certain category of equipment you cannot buy as a consumer. That makes you the "bad guy" of the two and if you're trying to pull a "consumer" on them, that's also a breach of contract. Either which puts you on the wrong side of good in case of litigation.

All I'm saying is, if you feel you'll need "consumer protection",  check with a lawyer in your country. The "...but I'm really a consumer" argument doesn't stick where I am, so it's likely to fail elsewhere as well.

As far as I'm concerned, this is all a big gamble in which no one really knows what's going on so be ready to loose all your money and hedge your bets.




Carl from KNCMiner clearly states they are treating buyers as businesses so consumer rights legislation does not apply to the purchase.

About three posts later in that thread, bitcoinorama posted a message (August 09, 2013, 12:50:10 AM). SO HE HAS MOST DEFINITELY READ THE MESSAGE. He has it from a KNCMiner employee that the reason they are treating buyers as businesses so consumer rights legislation does not apply to the purchase.

Let's fast forward to my question yesterday, where I asked the very same question. I hadn't read the above post at that point, so was entirely reliant on someone giving me an honest answer:


1.2 The Products are sold for business use only and Purchaser hereby accepts that it has purchased the Products in order to conduct a business.

Why sell to hobbists/consumers, yet make the hobbists/consumers agree they are a business?

In the beginning they KnC had to apply to EVERY EU country for a business tax code, otherwise they were limited as to how much they could sell to each country (UK max would have been £70k inc. VAT).

This was laborious and ongoing as they opened for pre-orders.

Perhaps that was why?


Bitcoinorama is spreading BS and lies. He saw the message from KNC Carl on 8th August, but is now playing the dummy. His usual PR, trying to tell everyone they are protected for years, even though a KNC employee has clearly stated customers are not - they are being treated as businesses so consumer rights legislation does not apply to the purchase.

Bitcoinorama is entirely dishonest. He works very hard to discredit KS, who has done his research and has proved KNC are treating buyers as businesses so consumer rights legislation does not apply to the purchase.

I'll quote KS from yesterday, as I believe it much more actual truth than anything Bitcoinorama has ever said:


Official EU 2" year warranty": http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/ecc/consumer_topics/buying_goods_services_en.htm
Full brochure: http://ec.europa.eu/archives/publications/booklets/move/64/index_en.htm

Business "consumer rights" are defined in the contract (for KNCMINER contract = T&C). Here's KNCMINER 1 year warranty:
"6.1  KnCMiner warrants that the Products, will perform according to the at all times published specification for a period of twelve (12) months (...)"
https://www.kncminer.com/pages/tandc

The "consumer rights" for businesses are basically that you get what you ordered and that it should work reasonably well (unless there are more exclusion clauses in the contract). If you're not happy, you either bargain with the seller (if you're lucky) or you sue (the rest of the time). A business vs business lawsuit is not the same as consumer vs business one. The consumer is over-protected, while the business is not (and a lot of haggling of the contract will ensue). Anyway, suing is really mostly money lost and time wasted. (Cost of doing business).


BTCOrama could do HIS due diligence and confirm what I said with a lawyer of his choice.


edit: fixed link

So beware of Bitcoinorama. He is not being honest with people at all. He is fully aware KNC are treating buyers as businesses so consumer rights legislation does not apply to the purchase, but makes up all kinds of BS to the opposite to deliberately mislead people.

He's doing that because he's either got some mental issues and feels the need to control how people think about knc and their products and how "safe" it is to purchase from them. Or? I'll leave you to decide.

I'm sure he'll come on here and say "Oh, I forget" or "I didn't see that" (even though he posted in the same thread just before and just after that debate. And anybody who posts on this thread knows he is always monitoring it). And for someone who has obsessively spent 717 hours on the forum since he joined 4 months ago, you know he has!

Although he likes to seem helpful, he cannot be trusted. He distorts the truth and misleads. You have been warned.
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
by
NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 09:47:53 UTC
Beautiful woman, but this have nothing to do with the present discussion.

You see, you show that you cannot cope with serious discussions. You fail to keep on track. At every opportunity you derail the topic where you participate.
I can totally confirm this. He twists everything and provides grand assurances for things he knows nothing about. Then backtracks. Then makes them again. And again. Then backtracks. Then makes them again.

He shapes the way people think about things and entirely regulates the kncminer thread. You post something on there and soon he'll pop up and start whitewashing it away if it doesn't "sync" with the knc party line. "No, everything is fine. Everything is above board. Your purchase is completely safe. But you should check that. But your purchase is completely safe." etc ad infinitum.

He spoils any genuine discussion, derailing anything worth talking about. Then he'll throw in a picture or a video, just to have the last "word".

If there is nothing going on in the knc thread, he'll go and troll the competition's threads. It's all politics to him.

You are coming near at that point, I am really sure.

It happened before with Rarity and others alike, it will happen with you, soon or later.
If knc have promised him something for his efforts, maybe when it ships he'll reduce his participation in the forum. Can't come soon enough.

You know what, I take this all back. Minor Miner was on the right track in the first post.

As of today, Bitcoinorama has spent 717 hours on here since he joined on 23 April
How many hours have passed since then?
2845

Which means he has spend 1/4 of his life on here for the past 4 months. Which forum were you on before this one?

And if MM's figure of 650 hours was true when he wrote his post, that means you have spent 67 hours on here in the past 7 days.

If you could devote that time and energy to something worthwhile!

I thought you were deliberately out to derail discussions for some nefarious reason.

Bitcoinorama, you are not a shill. You are mentally ill. Go and get some help, you have a serious problem.

Try this;

http://www.refreshthis.com/refreshthis.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Fboard%3D76.0&min=0&sec=10

It prevents you from continuously pressing f5, but will keep you logged in if you leave your computer idle 24/7. It's quite useful, especially for auction sites.

Has to be kept in a separate page of it's own though, as irrespective if which page you chose to read once set, it will revert back to the chosen page to be refreshed at the given time interval.
Yeah yeah sure, of course you just refresh your browser while you are out chatting to girls, mountain biking etc.

Look at your post history - you post regularly throughout the day 9+ hours. So either you are employed to do this or you have a problem. I figure the latter. Are you autistic? Obsessive compulsive? If you'd admit it, at least people would stop calling you a shill. It would explain the obsessive way you try to control and force the direction of discussions.
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
by
NoDisco
on 20/08/2013, 00:10:22 UTC
Beautiful woman, but this have nothing to do with the present discussion.

You see, you show that you cannot cope with serious discussions. You fail to keep on track. At every opportunity you derail the topic where you participate.
I can totally confirm this. He twists everything and provides grand assurances for things he knows nothing about. Then backtracks. Then makes them again. And again. Then backtracks. Then makes them again.

He shapes the way people think about things and entirely regulates the kncminer thread. You post something on there and soon he'll pop up and start whitewashing it away if it doesn't "sync" with the knc party line. "No, everything is fine. Everything is above board. Your purchase is completely safe. But you should check that. But your purchase is completely safe." etc ad infinitum.

He spoils any genuine discussion, derailing anything worth talking about. Then he'll throw in a picture or a video, just to have the last "word".

If there is nothing going on in the knc thread, he'll go and troll the competition's threads. It's all politics to him.

You are coming near at that point, I am really sure.

It happened before with Rarity and others alike, it will happen with you, soon or later.
If knc have promised him something for his efforts, maybe when it ships he'll reduce his participation in the forum. Can't come soon enough.

You know what, I take this all back. Minor Miner was on the right track in the first post.

As of today, Bitcoinorama has spent 717 hours on here since he joined on 23 April
How many hours have passed since then?
2845

Which means he has spend 1/4 of his life on here for the past 4 months. Which forum were you on before this one?

And if MM's figure of 650 hours was true when he wrote his post, that means you have spent 67 hours on here in the past 7 days.

If you could devote that time and energy to something worthwhile!

I thought you were deliberately out to derail discussions for some nefarious reason.

Bitcoinorama, you are not a shill. You are mentally ill. Go and get some help, you have a serious problem.
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Re: Bitcoinorama: Shill for KNC? Hardware is too full of sock puppets
by
NoDisco
on 19/08/2013, 20:03:07 UTC
Beautiful woman, but this have nothing to do with the present discussion.

You see, you show that you cannot cope with serious discussions. You fail to keep on track. At every opportunity you derail the topic where you participate.
I can totally confirm this. He twists everything and provides grand assurances for things he knows nothing about. Then backtracks. Then makes them again. And again. Then backtracks. Then makes them again.

He shapes the way people think about things and entirely regulates the kncminer thread. You post something on there and soon he'll pop up and start whitewashing it away if it doesn't "sync" with the knc party line. "No, everything is fine. Everything is above board. Your purchase is completely safe. But you should check that. But your purchase is completely safe." etc ad infinitum.

He spoils any genuine discussion, derailing anything worth talking about. Then he'll throw in a picture or a video, just to have the last "word".

If there is nothing going on in the knc thread, he'll go and troll the competition's threads. It's all politics to him.

You are coming near at that point, I am really sure.

It happened before with Rarity and others alike, it will happen with you, soon or later.
If knc have promised him something for his efforts, maybe when it ships he'll reduce his participation in the forum. Can't come soon enough.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 19/08/2013, 18:06:15 UTC
You are a pedantic bunch. I changed the post to say fans. My question about whether modifying the miner invalidates the guarantee still stands to be answered.

Does this really need to be asked? Just stop.
Yes it does.

If the heatsink on a hosted miner fails, I guess knc will replace it.

If the heatsink on a miner owned by a guy in the US fails, does he replace it himself and invalidate his guarantee? Which means if the miner entirely stops working 2 days later, he has a piece of garbage on his hands.

So that guy might also like to know how long it takes to be repaired if he has to send it back to Sweden, how long that round trip might take, so he can maintain his guarantee intact.

How is that not a very valid question for many customers?
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 19/08/2013, 18:00:33 UTC
You are a pedantic bunch. I changed the post to say fans. My question about whether modifying the miner invalidates the guarantee and any situations it might not still stands to be answered.
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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
NoDisco
on 19/08/2013, 17:56:04 UTC

Sam, can you also clarify two other points?

1. Cyper said he rang you today with regards components (heatsinks etc) used in the miner and you said he could swop them out for any other parts he wished to use. Surely this invalidates your guarantee? If it doesn't, please clarify. Are there any situations where it wouldn't? It leaves people who are not hosted by knc at a bit of a disadvantage.


I have never said that. Go check my post again.
Don't put words in my mouth please, instead try to learn how to read and remember simple bits of information.

Just got off the phone with Sam - it is a pleasure to talk to him and gives answers to all questions, so if you have any questions I suggest you call him Smiley
But he said there is absolutely no problem to change the fans if you want less noise or higher performance.
You said fan, not heatsink. Sorry. Working from memory. The point about guarantee is the same.