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Re: Need Advice - Hacked account or someone is trying to trick me
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WhitePhantom1980
on 09/02/2016, 08:38:50 UTC
0.06 paid to 16SCxS7gsLa1LM3Zgmzpz3Jr525j24bxX1
https://blockchain.info/tx/faa3a5698d852d7ece91093f7ea74daea2edacb79f07a887c88874c5f913c449

Thank you for working with me on this.
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Re: Need Advice - Hacked account or someone is trying to trick me
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WhitePhantom1980
on 09/02/2016, 08:07:32 UTC
Here's my most recent dialog with Sarahiko:

this account posted 6-7 bitcoin address
check here
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=bfj4upf5

can you sign message from any of those?

Did you read any of those posts?  Except for the one from 2013 that I told you is a BTC-e address, and provided strong evidence to support it, all of those addresses are either in instances where I said I was making a donation or one case where I had coins stuck in a CampBX wallet.

And the most recent address is the one the hacker posted.

So what does that mean?  It means I've never posted an address on Bitcointalk for a wallet that I own.  I never realized it was a good idea to do so or I would have.

Have you even looked at the evidence I've ,literally, spent hours gathering up for you?  I wasted half of Friday gathering anything and everything I could think of.

I provided you with the E-Mail address that was on the account before you changed it.  I gave you the password that you most likely had to use to login after the hacker gave you the account info, assuming he hadn't changed it.

also I think that imgur album is a good enough evidence... at least in this case. why would anyone give up their potential legendary account for 0.05BTC?

--Encrypted-- gets it!  The account is obviously mine, and if you were reasonable, you'd see it.  I've been screwed over by too many people in the crypto community.  Why should I expect this situation to be any different?

If you don't let me pay you what the hacker owed you and give me back my account, you're even more dishonest than him.  To him, it was just one account among who knows how many that he has passwords for.  You, however, have the actual owner pleading with you to give it back in exchange for the cost of the loan and interest.

WTF man........

--Encrypted--, thank you, by the way.  At least somebody in this thread is sane.
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Re: Giving Out Loans - Sarahiko Bitcoin Loan Service
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WhitePhantom1980
on 09/02/2016, 07:39:01 UTC
It wasn't repaid because my account was stolen.  The evidence I've provided to Sarahiko makes it obvious, but he'd rather try to make a little extra cash by selling the account.

Edit: Sarahiko rejected my 0.1 BTC offer and gave me back my stolen account for the price of the loan taken by the hacker.  He's a good guy.  Thanks.
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Re: Need Advice - Hacked account or someone is trying to trick me
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WhitePhantom1980
on 09/02/2016, 07:32:18 UTC
You're the rightful owner of my account about as much as a person who buys a car from a car thief is the rightful owner of the car (it gets confiscated by the police, btw).  The only difference here is I was offering to make you whole because I'm willing to take responsibility for not having changed my password last year when Bitcointalk had a big data breach.

So where does an auction like this take place?
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Re: Need Advice - Hacked account or someone is trying to trick me
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WhitePhantom1980
on 06/02/2016, 22:15:26 UTC
So let me get this straight, you were willing to access your account after ~a year because someone was randomly PM'ing you, but you were not willing to access your account when theymos emailed you when the forum was hacked?

I opened the PM message and saw a loan being discussed.  Of course I'm going to look into it if I think somebody is impersonating me to rip somebody off.  Also, I do recall the E-Mail about the forum being hacked, and I thought I had changed my password, but when I looked at the one I had saved in my browser (yes, I need to stop managing passwords that way), it was still the old one, to my dismay.

I would say that based on what I have read so far that it is more likely then that that the person who the OP sent the loan to is the same person who created the "WhitePhantom1980" account.
If I am the same person as the guy who requested the loan, then why wouldn't I just pay it back to get the account?  I am willing to calmly wait until the guy who hacked my account fails to pay back the loan and then I'll pay it back to recover my account.  I suggested that to Sarahiko as soon as I realized he had, in fact, already sent the loan to the hacker.  I have far better things to do with my time than create drama by getting a loan and then making a new account to cause trouble.  Work, wife, toddler, video games, etc.



Lastly, here is some additional evidence I provided to Sarahiko yesterday in a PM to show that the account is mine.

Check this post that I made in 2012.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76916.msg1132960#msg1132960

There's a link to my imgur album at the end of that post:
http://imgur.com/a/Uanjr

I can add a new image to that album.

I have since added a new image to that Imgur album that states, "WhitePhantom1980 is the rightful owner of the WhitePhantom BitcoinTalk account."

All I want is for Sarahiko to wait until the hacker doesn't pay and then sell my account back to me for what the hacker owes him rather than auctioning it off.


Edit: Something that just occurred to me was that the hacker may not have changed my password before handing the account over to Sarahiko.  I just PM'd that password to Sarahiko with the hope that it helps establish that there is no reason not to let me buy it back from him after the loan has not been paid.
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Re: Need Advice - Hacked account or someone is trying to trick me
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WhitePhantom1980
on 06/02/2016, 20:52:39 UTC
I told new account WhitePhantom1980 that if the borrower repay the loan then I will give account back to borrower and he can solve this matter with him


If borrower failed to repay then 2 things I can do

1) If WhitePhantom1980 can sign message from old bitcoin address I will give him account after he repay the debt

2) If WhitePhantom1980 can't sign the message then I will put the account on auction he can bid there to get the account.


I don't trust any other proofs but only signed message
Because it is possible account was sold without signed message and previous owner now trying to get is back showing other proofs.

Seems like a good strategy. Probably the borrower want to scam you the collateral, claiming it was hacked.

If the account was not hacked, and I'm actually the borrower trying to scam the collateral, then why am I offering to repay the loan and interest to get the account back?

Not once did I suggest that the lender should give me the account without me covering the loan.  Even if he had offered to do that, I would insist on paying him back the loan.
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Re: Need Advice - Hacked account or someone is trying to trick me
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WhitePhantom1980
on 06/02/2016, 20:43:09 UTC
You are responsible for this account and your pc/password should be secured to prevent the hacker.

If you want your account returned you will need to settle the loan.

Right, and I offered to settle the loan, including the interest, after the hacker fails to pay, but Sarahiko says he'll auction my account.  I fail to see how that is reasonable.
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Re: Need Advice - Hacked account or someone is trying to trick me
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WhitePhantom1980
on 06/02/2016, 20:16:55 UTC
1) If account was hacked then why hacker doesn't changed the email and password of the account?
2) How hacker managed to stake bitcoin address in January.
3) How it is possible within few minutes of sending loan someone said it was his account and someone else was using this but why the real owner wasn't aware when potential hacker used the account and staked bitcoin address in January.

1) I assume I would have received an E-Mail notification if the hacker had changed the E-Mail address or password on the account, and he didn't want me to know that he had access to my account.
2) Because he had access to my account and could post as me.
3) I hadn't logged into my account since last July and E-Mail notifications are not sent when a hacker posts a message using my account.  I found out somebody was using my account when I received E-Mail notifications that my account had new private messages from you to the hacker.


one was inactive for half a year and can only sign an address from 2 weeks ago and the other claims that it was his account yet is unable to sign any message.. both of these users are equally suspicious IMO.

and there's nothing wrong with what you posted on the second post.

@omegastarscream whitephantom posted on OP's thread.

The address Sarahiko found in one of my posts from 2013, and wants me to send him a signed message from, is a deposit address for my BTC-e account.

I have provided him with screenshots of my BTC-e transaction history that show my BTC-e account receiving 18 payments, over many months, from an address that I currently control.  All 18 deposit times and amounts match the blockchain transaction record perfectly.

Obviously, I am unable to send a signed message from an address controlled by BTC-e, but I've provided a reasonable explanation of why I have never controlled the address he found in my post from 2013, provided substantial evidence that I do have access to all funds sent to that address (via BTC-e), and I've offered to send him a signed message from the address I used to make 18 deposits to the address BTC-e controls.

Along with this evidence, I offered to pay back his loan amount, including the interest, when the hacker fails to pay, but he says my account will be auctioned unless I send him a signed message from the address that I've demonstrated is controlled by BTC-e.

I don't understand why he has a problem with letting me buy my account back AFTER the hacker fails to pay, especially with the evidence I've provided.
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Re: Giving Out Loans - Sarahiko Bitcoin Loan Service
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WhitePhantom1980
on 06/02/2016, 10:02:17 UTC
@WhitePhantom1980
if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why  sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
A reasonable person would think that, right?  He told me he won't do that, and that I'll have to bid on it in an auction if I want it back.
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Re: Giving Out Loans - Sarahiko Bitcoin Loan Service
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WhitePhantom1980
on 05/02/2016, 20:51:17 UTC
Here are my most recent communications with Sarahiko on the matter of my account being hacked.  Anybody who's interested, please let me know if I'm missing something.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

What is my hacked account even worth?  I didn't realize before today that people buy BCT accounts.  Seems stupid to me.

I can only assume that you didn't pay any attention to the evidence I gave you.

  • I gave an extremely reasonable explanation of why I don't have the private key of the address I posted at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246400.msg2633325#msg2633325.
  • I proved that the idiot who hacked me was lying when he said he deleted the wallet with that address because it's clearly an address that ends up depositing to my BTC-e account.
  • I proved that a wallet I own has been used many times to deposit to the address I posted in 2013.
  • I proved that my BTC-e account was the recipient of every single transaction I sent to 1AK6QHxxhg5KchccRWUCZLdStubP5TRKZm.
  • If you want, I can provide more screenshots to show that my BTC-e account has received every single transaction ever sent to that address.

So the hacker lied about having deleted the wallet, and you say you're still willing to give me the account if I can prove I have the private key to that wallet.  I've proved to you that I am the person with access to any funds deposited to that address and I've suggested that I send you a signed message from the wallet I've used many times to deposit to that address.  Very reasonable, imo.

After the hacker doesn't pay you back, if you put the account on auction, as you said, rather than giving it back to me in exchange for my very generous offer of reimbursing you the .05 BTC that the hacker stole from you, I can only assume that the account is worth a lot more than the loan amount (still amazed that somebody would buy a BCT account) and that you're as dishonest as the guy who hacked me.  I guess I'm just relieved that I don't give a crap about BitcoinTalk anymore, other than for the sake of nostalgia.

So do the right thing or don't.  I'm done.

He asked me:
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how it is possible someone was using your account and staked bitcoin address but you don't knew it and when he took loan within few minutes you created a new account saying it was your account and its hacked.

if it was hacked then why didn't you noticed this when the possible hacker was using this since last month but you noticed this within few minutes after loan was processed.

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I didn't know because I haven't logged into it since last July.  I got a couple of PM notification E-Mails this morning.

I said to myself, "wtf, somebody's using my Bitcointalk account."  I don't get E-Mail notifications when I login or post something, so when the hacker got in and posted something a month ago, I was oblivious.

Surely, this must make perfectly logical sense to you, especially with the hacker having lied to you about deleting a wallet that I've proven he could never have had in the first place.

I think I've made a pretty convincing case, but people in the BTC world often surprise me with theories I never thought of.  So let me know if you all think I'm missing something and am somehow still likely to be trying to defraud Sarahiko.

Edit: I don't see what's so difficult about letting me have the account back after the hacker fails to pay since I've offered to reimburse him the .05 BTC.  He'd rather make some profit from selling it than do the right thing.  How about .06 BTC?  I'll do that.  I just don't like losing something that belonged to me, but there's no way I'm going to bid against other people in an auction for my account.

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Wow, there's a Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=4apef7a3
No way I'd pay the expected 0.16 BTC in an auction.  I'm annoyed at 0.06, but I'll do it just to get back something that belongs to me.
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Re: Giving Out Loans - Sarahiko Bitcoin Loan Service
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WhitePhantom1980
on 05/02/2016, 16:27:16 UTC
Loan Amount: 0.05
Reason: N/A
Repayment Amount: 0.06
Repayment Date: 08-02-2016
Collateral: BCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address: 17ueVQXsPAnyHkahjh3HDPFYxAkDQKYR6U

I'm WhitePhantom.  Somebody has hacked my account and is trying to scam you.  Do NOT give him anything, please.

Its too late and one thing is amazing after the payment done you come here asking and saying that,well lets see how this will end now,its getting insane lend and people being hacked all days now hell.

If you're accusing me of taking a loan and then saying my account was hacked, you're wrong.  I haven't used BitcoinTalk at all in at least 7 months and not actively for well over a year, and I certainly don't care about a measly .05 BTC, but I received a couple of PM message notifications in my E-Mail about a conversation I had nothing to do with and figured I should try to stop it.

If this guy already got his "loan", sorry to hear that.

Edit: Ewww, I didn't see the transaction confirmation that was posted before I even got here.  So I assume my account is actually now in the hands of Sarahiko and not the guy who hacked it?
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Re: Giving Out Loans - Sarahiko Bitcoin Loan Service
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WhitePhantom1980
on 05/02/2016, 16:06:11 UTC
Loan Amount: 0.05
Reason: N/A
Repayment Amount: 0.06
Repayment Date: 08-02-2016
Collateral: BCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address: 17ueVQXsPAnyHkahjh3HDPFYxAkDQKYR6U

I'm WhitePhantom.  Somebody has hacked my account and is trying to scam you.  Do NOT give him anything, please.