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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 21/01/2014, 05:17:42 UTC

Whatever is the case. No one can deny that it is now technologically feasible to satisfy revelations 13:17.  Where before we could use cash to avoid such a law, in a bitcoin protocol world, every single transaction can be tracked.

I suspect that control won't come from the protocol itself. The control will come from laws that implement scanners which require a private key plus ID proof (maybe fingerprint but eventually DNA). One reason for this could be to "prevent terrorism".

We are many years from that day but no one can deny that the technology exists today. Already I note that people are producing encrypted private keys using the grain of wood as the encoding mechanism. Soon it will be fingerprints then the next step is to use DNA.


your assuming that all other currencies are rejected worldwide and bitcoin emerges the dominant and sole means of currency with that.... which i really dont think is that likely as long as there is real and solid GOLD SILVER AND OTHER PRECIOUS METALS available on the planet.
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I agree which is why the government will ONCE AGAIN STEAL everyone's precious metals and "pay a fair price for it". This is not a theory but history repeating itself. I believe it was Roosevelt who last confiscated all the gold. What makes you think they wouldn't do it again?
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 19/01/2014, 02:19:15 UTC

Well, no one avoids death but that's not what we're writing about.

Hey, one of the folks at the BBQ today suggested that for next Shabbot, instead of goat or chicken, we round up some Long Pig.  Said Long Pig is a traditional sacrifice in many religious community, including Judaism and Christianity but I've not heard of it.

Long Pig, that is.

Can you help me out?

Smiley
Well some think of their immediate needs whilst others of things beyond. Some fill their stomachs without dealing with the emptiness of the soul. There is more to this world than just satisfying our earthly needs. For those that seek, they shall find. Yet others consume in accordance with their desires. If that is you, so be it. On the day of judgement all will be held to account for every action and every word. If you think, you are provoking me then that is not correct. You seek to hurt but instead I pray that god will have mercy on you. As to Long Pig, that is an evil that should not be mentioned. By your own actions you demonstrate to everyone the workings of your mind.

How is the world a better place without god and even religion? Will it be filled with people like you? What is to say that what you do is right or wrong? Who is to judge that? Will you expose the evil of Long Pig to your children and grandchildren? What gives you the right to do that to others? You criticise god fearing people for extremism, yet three fingers point back at you.
^^^^ THIS with the exception of long pig. I don't know what it is but based on the previous comments from that person I'm sure it has nothing to do with YHWH or his followers. Probably another ad hominem but I'm not looking it up to know for sure.
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 18/01/2014, 00:26:01 UTC
Lloydie is spot on. 100% agreed accept it's not a new covenant it was the exact same covenant from Genesis at the fall he prophesied the redemption and his overcoming Satan and the world of sin.
Other than that I don't follow my own way but I follow YHWH's way. We are each to find our way to do that, but I must go as it is now Sabbath. Shabbot Shalom.
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 21:05:42 UTC
I've thought about this. There are two characteristics that the biblical currency needs to have: 1. Controlled (like the dollar) and 2. Globally accepted (where bitcoin is going). So far no currencies qualify.
You are correct but fail to see how bitcoin is all of the above, just not fully shown for what it is. Globally accepted safe to say we all agree it is going/ almost achieved one world currency status. The first issue of control does not show it's ugly head until AFTER another "false flag terrorist" attack. It will be linked to BTC and will be used to create the outcry for control on BTC. Solution is take a single wallet address that is "tattoo" or injected in the right hand and access all BTC. This of course takes place after fiat is officially dead so choice of red pill or blue pill? Take the mark and be rich or deny the mark and be cut off from all buying selling and trading with the "civilized" mark accepting society. I tend to agree with the other theory that the DNA will also be attached with the SS# etc authenticating all transactions by biometric confirmations. We all see how fiat is controlled problem is most will not see how BTC is controlled and who really controls it until it is too late.
The feds murder people for MUCH LESS than taking away all their power and control of central banking/ fiat currency. NO WAY they are not in on this as they have already had several meetings to discuss BTC already. Do you REALLY think they would sit back and let it happen if it wasn't inevitably a trap?
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 20:24:52 UTC
First, I laughed.

Then, after realizing this thread wasn't intended as a joke, and many of the people in it actually believe this stuff, I stopped laughing.

Then, after seeing people complimenting each others' intelligence, I started laughing again.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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ah once again the self proclaimed intellectual trolls have resorted to ad homonym yet again. Your "intelligence" has no rebuttals so instead you resort to child like name calling. Sadly your ad homonyms work for the majority of sheep who think similar to you and boast about their tolerance vs "religious intolerance" ironic. In your "tolerance" you don't tolerate people who think "differently" "religious" because you claim they themselves are intolerant.... MAKES YOU WONDER, DOESN'T IT?

(1) That should read "Ad Hominem", not "ad homonym".

(2) Although I consider most religious types to be batshit crazy, I did not call you any names; name calling being the basis for an AD HOMINEM claim, so you may put that one where the Sun doesn't shine, as it were.  Red Herring, maybe but certainly not "AD HOMINEM"!

Now, please allow me to digress and get full-bore AD HOMINEM on you so that you can see just how it is done!

I consider religious types to be superstitious, primitive in their thinking, possibly deranged to an astonishing degree and in need of therapy, medication or both.  Religious types have started more wars than anything but political types and there may be some doubt that politicians are ahead!

Religious typoes believe that "My god is better than your god!" so they advocate for killing non-believers in scroes, droves and millions!

Religious types tell us that their god is a "loving god", while their mouldy tomes tell us of the many, many occasions on which the so-called "loving god" has murdered by the gazillions.

In short, religious types represent the single greatest danger to the future of human kind and should be watched closely.

My $.02.

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I guess I will apologize for the website autocorrect changing ad hominem to homonym.
I accept your comments on your religious views. Your religion is accepted by many and many share the same faith as you. Hitler the coward and many other anti christs all agree with you. In short your theological doctrine you blindly follow is widely accepted, problem is you cannot see that you are following religion yourself. So basically every single accusation you have made also equally if not greater than apply to you and your religion as well.
I find no coincidence in your use of the word murder yet clearly if anything a court of law would view it as self defense. YHWH retaliating against nimrod for example when he built the tower of babel and tried to shoot YHWH with an arrow (who's crazy now?) YHWH simply confused the tongue. When the innocence of the world was taken and children were being raped and brought up to rape other innocent children yes he destroyed those disgusting abominable acts. Problem is you are so wrapped up in sin you cannot think clearly. I accept your attacks at religion as I do not follow religion, but have you looked in the mirror and realized you are the one following religion?
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 19:53:03 UTC
ah once again the self proclaimed intellectual trolls have resorted to ad homonym yet again.

I love the double irony of you keep saying this.

I'm glad someone got the humour behind it. Seriously though let's quit with the ad homonyms and stick to the message and stop attacking the messenger.
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 18:41:04 UTC
First, I laughed.

Then, after realizing this thread wasn't intended as a joke, and many of the people in it actually believe this stuff, I stopped laughing.

Then, after seeing people complimenting each others' intelligence, I started laughing again.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Wink
ah once again the self proclaimed intellectual trolls have resorted to ad homonym yet again. Your "intelligence" has no rebuttals so instead you resort to child like name calling. Sadly your ad homonyms work for the majority of sheep who think similar to you and boast about their tolerance vs "religious intolerance" ironic. In your "tolerance" you don't tolerate people who think "differently" "religious" because you claim they themselves are intolerant.... MAKES YOU WONDER, DOESN'T IT?
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 16:03:42 UTC
Well Lloydie you are correct about most things you have said. There is nothing far fetched or sci fi about this conversation even though only 3 years ago this conversation would be conspiracy and sci fi at best, however as it is all unfolding it no longer is sci fi but reality.

meelvanchris I am very sorry to hear about you going to bible school. Bible school contradicts the bible Wink. They carefully teach you how to misinterpret the bible. Seminary is a part of the system and I have not met a single person who has gone to seminary who knows the word of YHWH. They know a lot about twisting scripture and rewritting the bible, but that is completely against the bible. They know a lot about man made theology and philosophy that contradicts YHWH and when YHWH doesn't fit their preconceived notion of who he is they write off YHWH as contradicting himself when only it is we who contradict ourselves and HIM.

We all have a master and we all go to work for him. Both masters eagerly await our work and desire to pay our wages. One master offers us gifts beyond measure that we can never deserve and the only stipulation is receive. The other master lies offering materialism beyond measure that is limited finite and temporary in exchange for your wages eternal death.
The first master says Yahoushua is the path, the second says you can take ANY path EXCEPT Yahoushua, you chose your master and you chose your wages

I have real eyes
that realize
real lies


So you think all Bible schools are the same?  I think that there are some very good ones out there.  I went to a Christian college and loved my Bible teachers.  They really challenged me to take off my American English speaking glasses that I wear and read the Bible for what it really says, not for what we see because of the world view we personally have.  My husband even learned Biblical Greek there so he could read the Bible for what it really says and better understand what the original manuscripts were trying to tell us.  So I think making blanket statements that "Bible School Contradicts the Bible" is a little extreme don't you?  There are some great ones out there.  Sure there are some that are not so good to but not all are the same.

But I agree that we do have to choose which master we work for.  Some people think that they only serve themselves, but that is the exactly what Satan wants and in doing so are serving him, perhaps ignorantly.
By your own admission yes I say all Bible schools contradict the bible. You say that they taught you to read it for what it is. Can I ask you a few questions? Do you wear tzitzit? Do you cover your head? Do you think the torah and the "new" testament are 2 books or all the bible is one? Do you believe in Yahoushua or do you still call him the blasphemous Zeus name of Je Zues? I only ask if "school" taught you anything about these things at all or conveniently ignored it all? do you celebrate blasphemous christmas and ishtar easter? All of these are encouraged by "bible"school. I don't think it's extreme that the bible is written in ancient pictograph and paleo hebrew while the new testament is written also in either hebrew or aramaic but yet "school" taught you greek is the original text (lies) and now your husband knows the language of idolatrous polytheistic philosophers who hate YHWH and his word and seek to "rationalize" him out of existence and making doctrines of men over the word of YHWH.

The lie of getting you to learn greek the helenistic people who are responsible for destroying the Torah and YHWH's word while getting you to worship zues on the day of sun while deceiving you and hiding behind the YHWH of the bible is more than enough evidence for me to boldly say with all authority that yes ALL Bible schools contradict the bible as the rouch ha kodesh is our teacher and Yahoushua says no man is over another yet "school" has it's system of man's authority that cares about titles degrees and stature instead of truth of YHWH.
Are you starting to see any contradictions yet? Also what fruit do these schools produce. People like Meelvanchris who went there and learned from contradicting men that somehow YWHW contradicted himself? Or you and your husband who believe greek has to do with YHWH when his kadosh tongue is hebrew? aleph beyt vs alphabet.
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 14:55:07 UTC

Hitler, Goebbels and Goring were willing to die for Nazism.

By your logic " It should prove that there is more to it though and at least be respected if you don't want to believe it."

It will be a great day for the world when humanity, if ever, realises that there is no need for made-up gods and superstition.

My $.02.

Wink

If there is no belief in an afterlife, then it is only logical to maximise the utility of this life. As the world we currently live in is finite, there will surely be insufficient resources. How will that be a great day for your descendants or for humanity?
Forgive my ignorance on how the other two names you mentioned may have been willing but I would like to correct you at least about Hitler and his being a coward who was NOT willing to die for his "belief" of nazism. You are intentionally deceiving people now, but I will keep giving you the truth over your lies. Hitler was a jew and a coward. By his own account he should have committed suicide the second he accepted nazism as by his own definition he was jewish. Contradiction 1. Secondly in regards to willing to die... lol I'm pretty sure only one of two events happened. Upon him losing the war he committed suicide like a little coward aka not willing to be tried publicly and die for what he believes in unlike believers of YHWH. Option 2 it was a double who he shot in the head while he escaped to look like a suicide EITHER WAY he was a coward and was NOT willing to die for what he believed in. Committing suicide as an escape to NOT be scrutinized for what you believe DOES NOT constitute Hitler was willing to die for what he believed.

It will be a great day for humanity when the world, which it will, will have to bow down and every tongue confess that there is YHWH, that he is love, and that he has loved us.

Please like I said before you and Obama can keep your "change" keep your $.02
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on 17/01/2014, 14:44:22 UTC
Well Lloydie you are correct about most things you have said. There is nothing far fetched or sci fi about this conversation even though only 3 years ago this conversation would be conspiracy and sci fi at best, however as it is all unfolding it no longer is sci fi but reality.

meelvanchris I am very sorry to hear about you going to bible school. Bible school contradicts the bible Wink. They carefully teach you how to misinterpret the bible. Seminary is a part of the system and I have not met a single person who has gone to seminary who knows the word of YHWH. They know a lot about twisting scripture and rewritting the bible, but that is completely against the bible. They know a lot about man made theology and philosophy that contradicts YHWH and when YHWH doesn't fit their preconceived notion of who he is they write off YHWH as contradicting himself when only it is we who contradict ourselves and HIM.

We all have a master and we all go to work for him. Both masters eagerly await our work and desire to pay our wages. One master offers us gifts beyond measure that we can never deserve and the only stipulation is receive. The other master lies offering materialism beyond measure that is limited finite and temporary in exchange for your wages eternal death.
The first master says Yahoushua is the path, the second says you can take ANY path EXCEPT Yahoushua, you chose your master and you chose your wages

I have real eyes
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on 17/01/2014, 06:26:36 UTC
Children's fairy tales should be in "off topic"
People are willing to die for this "fairy tale" as you call it. 

This true story of a persecuted girl really humbled me:
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16 years old, Asia 1970s – The Communist soldiers had discovered their illegal bible study. As the Pastor was reading from the bible, men with guns suddenly broke into the home, terrorizing the believers who had gathered to worship. They shouted insults and threatened to kill the Christians. The leading officer pointed his gun at the pastor’s head. “Hand me your bible” he demanded. Reluctantly the pastor handed over his bible, his prized possession. With a sneer on his face, the guard threw the bible to the floor. He glared at the small congregation. “We will let you go” he growled, “but first you must spit on this book of lies. Anyone who refuses will be shot.” The believers had no choice but to obey the officer’s order. A soldier pointed his gun at one of the men. “You first”. The man slowly got up and knelt down by the Bible. Reluctantly, he spat on it, praying, “Father, please forgive me.” He stood up and walked to the door. The soldiers stood back and allowed him to leave. “Okay, you!” the soldier said, nudging a woman forward. In tears, she could barely do what he demanded. She spat only a little, but it was enough. She too was allowed to leave. Quietly a young girl came forward. Overcome with love for her Lord, she knelt down and picked up the bible. She wiped off the spit with her dress. “What have they done to your Word? Please forgive them,” she prayed. The Communist soldier put his pistol to her head and pulled the trigger


If the Bible is not true why would anyone be willing to give their life up because of it!?  See: http://www.historymakers.info/inspirational-christians/jesus-freaks.html

You know an analogous situation must have happened with the quran at some point in history. Thus by your own logic making the quran also true. How do you reconcile the fact that both are true at the same time?

I can reconcile that "fact" for you right now.... Followers of the Bible are willing to LOSE their life so they can gain it, however followers of the quran are willing to take lives for their belief. Therefore they go hand in hand and it still proves the Bible true.

You evidently have not read the book you follow!

Allow me to acquaint you with a few of the less well-known verses of that mouldy old tome:

"Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)"

"Death for Adultery

    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)"

"Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)"

"Kill Sons of Sinners

    Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.  (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)"

You were saying...............HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh??

Just aksing.

My $.02.

Wink
I am saying YHWH is kadosh and his commandments are for our benefit not his. You have failed in your quotes to mention the result of the disobedience of the children of Israel for not listening. They fell into the nations idolatrous ways and were brought into Babylon and scattered to the ends of the earth to be slaves to a people in whom they do not know and worship false gods that are not theirs. Until this very day YHWH has been regathering the lost sheep if Israel who love him and his Torah and keep it. You also conveniently forgot the multiple cases where Yahoushua said let he who be without sin cast the first stone, had compassion on the adulterers, ate with the sinners, became our most high priest and the perfect atonement so that anyone including you who chooses to accept him can be forgiven and given the gift of eternal life, the gift non of us deserve (why it's called grace).

What are you even asking? BTW you and Obama can keep your "change" Wink
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on 17/01/2014, 06:17:19 UTC
I am glad YHWH has given you eyes that see. The mark is the point of no return. RFID chips have been proven to have cyanide attached to it to kill the "slave" who is disobedient. They emit Radio Frequencies that cause cancer and death. The boils talked about in Revelation BTW. RFID chips also have been shown as a way to control the body and mind and cause the host to commit murder etc. This is just like the movie matrix even when anyone can be a threat at any time / be controlled by an "agent" etc. these agents are demonic being using technology as control etc. I am versed enough in biblical knowledge and know what the world is up to. It's not hard to see through the false veils created by the enemy.

Here is the "plan". BTC comes out is worth next to nothing. It is nothing and only has value based on perception. Silk road gets jacked of who knows how much BTC and shut down. Feds are now in huge supply of BTC market. China is buying like crazy and they hate the constitution/ etc. Those who have BTC will continue to get huge ROI and all appears to be fine and dandy. Another false flag terrorist event somehow connecting BTC then causes a forced regulation by the EU (1 world government) in which the only way to now access your account is take the RFID chip. Money fiat fails and is worthless and you are given a choice. Take the chip and access riches beyond measure, or don't take it and don't access your wallet * aka you can't buy sell or trade(at least not permitted to). 9/10 wouldn't even think twice about taking it.

ad homonym anyone? I know you "intellects" know what that means as I see it's what you have been doing.
BTW meelvanchris his name is not "john" it's Yochanon and you literally did an ad homonym. Why are you attacking the name john and ignoring the truth? Oh it's because you believe a lie.

Cyanide in RFID chips?  I am not sure I would go to that extreme but I guess we can wonder.

Regardless the best strategy is to just avoid any mark on our hands to buy and sell.  Everything else is not so sure is it?  You don't want to "predict" outcomes only to be disappointed when things don't happen exactly as you suspect.  I guess I get a little frustrated with all the end-times books out there (such as the Left Behind Series) that predict that things in Revelation will happen in a certain way.  Revelation is a hard book to understand.  We like to add things to it or imagine things happening in a certain way but until that day comes we will not know for sure what it will look like. 

On a side note the FBI is planning on selling off the coins so I am not sure about your theory of the FEDs having so much BTC.  I suppose they could keep confiscating it and end up with more that way but I don't think the FEDs will control BTC.  They will just try to control the people that have the "uncontrollable" BTC. 
Cyanide is in the chips not speculation rather fact. I only wish the predictions (not mine) weren't true, but what disappoints is how it is true and how many buy into the lie. I don't read end time books I read the bible. Revelations is easy to understand just look at the world around you. I do not however know the time or the hour. I do know however the season we are end and what YHWH has proven to be true.
FBI I wasn't accusing of controlling the market as much as stealing potentially millions of BTC (acquired for free) then selling them while market is high turning millions of BTC into potentiality billions of USD unaccountable to the people to be spent on secret wars etc. like all drug money.

On a side note I've noticed the trolling attacks have stopped since calling out the ad homonym tactics of attacking the person and ignoring the truth and the subject. Sad moderators put this in off topic when this all is completely relevant to BTC, but then again if BTC is the mark why would they want this info on the main BTC board where it is easily found to be read?
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on 17/01/2014, 05:48:16 UTC
I am glad YHWH has given you eyes that see. The mark is the point of no return. RFID chips have been proven to have cyanide attached to it to kill the "slave" who is disobedient. They emit Radio Frequencies that cause cancer and death. The boils talked about in Revelation BTW. RFID chips also have been shown as a way to control the body and mind and cause the host to commit murder etc. This is just like the movie matrix even when anyone can be a threat at any time / be controlled by an "agent" etc. these agents are demonic being using technology as control etc. I am versed enough in biblical knowledge and know what the world is up to. It's not hard to see through the false veils created by the enemy.

Here is the "plan". BTC comes out is worth next to nothing. It is nothing and only has value based on perception. Silk road gets jacked of who knows how much BTC and shut down. Feds are now in huge supply of BTC market. China is buying like crazy and they hate the constitution/ etc. Those who have BTC will continue to get huge ROI and all appears to be fine and dandy. Another false flag terrorist event somehow connecting BTC then causes a forced regulation by the EU (1 world government) in which the only way to now access your account is take the RFID chip. Money fiat fails and is worthless and you are given a choice. Take the chip and access riches beyond measure, or don't take it and don't access your wallet * aka you can't buy sell or trade(at least not permitted to). 9/10 wouldn't even think twice about taking it.

ad homonym anyone? I know you "intellects" know what that means as I see it's what you have been doing.
BTW meelvanchris his name is not "john" it's Yochanon and you literally did an ad homonym. Why are you attacking the name john and ignoring the truth? Oh it's because you believe a lie.
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 04:56:10 UTC
I am getting rid of my .5btc and trading it for gold tomorrow. It most certainly is the mark of the beast as your SS# will be attached to your address and so will your picture full name address phone number height weight etc etc. It will be the tattoo shown on every music video which is the same image as the new barcode which is the same as BTC bar code. Old barcode is obviously 666. BTC was hijacked by government by shutdown of silkroad making them the largest holders of BTC. Everyone gets rich as BTC rises and dollars crash until one day you are not allowed to access your address until you receive the mark. Simple decision take your 1000s-100000000s you have in your address with this mark or simply don't take it and never access your money. The fact that everyone is attacking the idea and calling it absurd and name calling is only proving it's truth. Changing this to "off topic" when it clearly is directly related to BTC in every way shape and form. As a potential issue regarding faith, it also affects value and trade ability. The OP question even addresses whether or not BTC is against the very thing most people think it stands for which is anonymous currency unregulated by government. If the facts are correct as they are and haven't been refuted only attacked, I am cashing out before the barcode is moved from your computer screen to your hand. Granted it's only .5BTC but considering I paid $70 and didn't even know I had it I'm ok with trading for gold.

We all believe in Elohim. Problem is too many believe that they themselves are Elohim. Others believe in the Elohim they call Nothing. Unfortunately few believe Yahoushua is Elohim.
Atheists have much more faith than I do. Yahoushua has proven his existence to me, spoken to me, written to me, died for me, Loves me, etc etc. Atheists on the other hand have to believe and have faith that nothing is what started everything and somehow simple math is a lie. 0=Infinity (everything came from nothing?) and cannot be proven as nothing cannot be proven. So when atheists talk about nothing while proving nothing they somehow think I am the uneducated one because I believe the truth over the lie of their "god" nothing.

You are getting rid of your BTC?  I am not sure if BTC is the mark but I think you are right that our addresses will be controlled at some point. The mark will come because governments cannot control the use of BTC. Once it becomes mainstream they will panic because they will lose control.  Governments want control of our money.  So some brilliant leader will come up with a way to "unify" the world but require everyone to get marks so they can track all purchases.  It seems logical doesn't it?  That is when things will get crazy.  It isn't popular to be a Christian now in some places.  Just think how crazy we will look when we are the only ones on earth that are not willing to take the mark?  There may be some people that don't want to just because they are true Libertarians but there will be many people that even call themselves Christians that will make some of us feel stupid for not just giving in and taking it.

All of this said, I don't see why you are in such a hurry to sell your BTC now.  I think we will have some warning that governments are about to mandate this sort of thing and BTC will have to be a bit more mainstream.

I am curious how you think the QR codes will be the mark?  I think it will be a standard barcode.  Mostly because almost all cash registers in the world are set up to scan them already.  Maybe they will tattoo a QR code and a barcode? 



B is it for Bit or Beast?
If the QR code is the 2D version I believe it will be that. The regular bar code is already decoded by 666. It is the predecessor, but it is also connected. QR code is still bar code in practice just allows more information in the same size area. With that said it could even be an actual RFID chip that is connected to the QR code attached to the SS# etc. Standard bar code isn't "safe" enough can be copied etc. however an RFID chip implanted would appear at least appear to be uncopyable and safe. This is exactly what is happening and is completely predicted by Yehoushua Ha Mashiyach. Made up fairy tales hardly predict the future by over 2000 years. Scoffers and mockers however have been around since the fall. They who believe the lies hate the truth. Wake up and come out of the matrix.

That thou shalt set apart unto the YHWH all that openeth the MATRIX, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the YHWH'S. ( Exodus 13:12 )
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 03:01:13 UTC
Children's fairy tales should be in "off topic"
People are willing to die for this "fairy tale" as you call it. 

This true story of a persecuted girl really humbled me:
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16 years old, Asia 1970s – The Communist soldiers had discovered their illegal bible study. As the Pastor was reading from the bible, men with guns suddenly broke into the home, terrorizing the believers who had gathered to worship. They shouted insults and threatened to kill the Christians. The leading officer pointed his gun at the pastor’s head. “Hand me your bible” he demanded. Reluctantly the pastor handed over his bible, his prized possession. With a sneer on his face, the guard threw the bible to the floor. He glared at the small congregation. “We will let you go” he growled, “but first you must spit on this book of lies. Anyone who refuses will be shot.” The believers had no choice but to obey the officer’s order. A soldier pointed his gun at one of the men. “You first”. The man slowly got up and knelt down by the Bible. Reluctantly, he spat on it, praying, “Father, please forgive me.” He stood up and walked to the door. The soldiers stood back and allowed him to leave. “Okay, you!” the soldier said, nudging a woman forward. In tears, she could barely do what he demanded. She spat only a little, but it was enough. She too was allowed to leave. Quietly a young girl came forward. Overcome with love for her Lord, she knelt down and picked up the bible. She wiped off the spit with her dress. “What have they done to your Word? Please forgive them,” she prayed. The Communist soldier put his pistol to her head and pulled the trigger


If the Bible is not true why would anyone be willing to give their life up because of it!?  See: http://www.historymakers.info/inspirational-christians/jesus-freaks.html

You know an analogous situation must have happened with the quran at some point in history. Thus by your own logic making the quran also true. How do you reconcile the fact that both are true at the same time?

I can reconcile that "fact" for you right now.... Followers of the Bible are willing to LOSE their life so they can gain it, however followers of the quran are willing to take lives for their belief. Therefore they go hand in hand and it still proves the Bible true.
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Re: Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?
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on 17/01/2014, 01:59:33 UTC
I am getting rid of my .5btc and trading it for gold tomorrow. It most certainly is the mark of the beast as your SS# will be attached to your address and so will your picture full name address phone number height weight etc etc. It will be the tattoo shown on every music video which is the same image as the new barcode which is the same as BTC bar code. Old barcode is obviously 666. BTC was hijacked by government by shutdown of silkroad making them the largest holders of BTC. Everyone gets rich as BTC rises and dollars crash until one day you are not allowed to access your address until you receive the mark. Simple decision take your 1000s-100000000s you have in your address with this mark or simply don't take it and never access your money. The fact that everyone is attacking the idea and calling it absurd and name calling is only proving it's truth. Changing this to "off topic" when it clearly is directly related to BTC in every way shape and form. As a potential issue regarding faith, it also affects value and trade ability. The OP question even addresses whether or not BTC is against the very thing most people think it stands for which is anonymous currency unregulated by government. If the facts are correct as they are and haven't been refuted only attacked, I am cashing out before the barcode is moved from your computer screen to your hand. Granted it's only .5BTC but considering I paid $70 and didn't even know I had it I'm ok with trading for gold.

We all believe in Elohim. Problem is too many believe that they themselves are Elohim. Others believe in the Elohim they call Nothing. Unfortunately few believe Yahoushua is Elohim.
Atheists have much more faith than I do. Yahoushua has proven his existence to me, spoken to me, written to me, died for me, Loves me, etc etc. Atheists on the other hand have to believe and have faith that nothing is what started everything and somehow simple math is a lie. 0=Infinity (everything came from nothing?) and cannot be proven as nothing cannot be proven. So when atheists talk about nothing while proving nothing they somehow think I am the uneducated one because I believe the truth over the lie of their "god" nothing.
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Re: Anyone gotten BTC from BTCquick since they came back
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I used them in October lol but JUST transfered my .5 BTC to my wallet TODAY. I couldn't access anything and they resolved it for me right away. The only way I could get in touch with them was twitter @btcquick or email jerrod@btcquick.com. I am 100% satisfied with them giving me my .5 BTC now valued at $420 then only $75 especially if they had any problems at some point. Try those points of contact and I bet you'll get a response.
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Re: btcQuick.com Feedback Thread
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on 16/01/2014, 17:03:24 UTC
I have been trying to get in touch with this company for over a week now. EDIT
If you are trying to reach this company the only way I got in contact was either twitter or email. The only email address I got contact back was Jerrod@btcquick.com. I am EXTREMELY satisfied with their service. I used them back in October for 2 transactions. 1 for 1 BTC and another for .5BTC. Basically I never transfered my .5 to my wallet which was only $75 at the time. Now however it's about $420 and they completely resolved my issue giving my .5BTC. They found my order # right away and even gave me the correct info to log in. I was logging into wrong account so in actuality it was all my fault. Either way I am completely satisfied with their service and would recommend using them. I would follow on twitter and keep Jerrod's email handy just in case you do need customer support, but other than that I am 100% sasified.
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Re: Official btcQuick Support Thread (Active Customer Support)
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cobragt427
on 16/01/2014, 16:51:06 UTC
EDITED ISSUE RESOLVED
I had an issue paid for .5BTC back in october and never transfered. I couldn't get in touch with the company for over a week and tried 3 emails and their phone number. I had success when I tried the twitter page and also when emailing Jerrod@btcquick.com. To say the least I am more than satisfied they gave me my .5 BTC now valued at $420 vs the $75 I paid for it. I am very happy with the level of service provided ONCE I was able to get in touch with them. They took care of me today January 16, 2014 so if you are having issues try the twitter or email.
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Can I mine with a laptop?
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cobragt427
on 16/01/2014, 04:00:12 UTC
m17xr4 intel quad core and nvidia 660m with 12gb ram would I make anything?