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Re: Charlie Kirk shot dead
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 22:50:51 UTC


I don't know whether he is the culprit or not, but what is circulating this photo in our discussion environment.

but to answer the question about the guy in blue
he was not some random student, faculty, visitor watching the debate. you can clearly see he is on the inside of the area, thus part of the entourage so would have been vetted and checked by security
He can only be suspected as a result of the scene around the Utah University.
I don't see him as a potential suspect even if others do since he's top was not similar to that of the suspect.

before anyone knew the killers name or description. some spotted this guy in blue shirt and noticed something in his hand and just alleged he might be a suitable suspect/man of interest. and even now people still are wondering about this guy and what was in his hand

i simply expelled some notions by just bringing attention to the fact of which side of the barrier he was on, to say he is not part of the random crowd. he seems to be one of the vetted/checked entourage allowed to be on the inside of the barrier. so im sure he was exonerated as not a suspect
obviously video footage would also show the direction and type of killshot was not of one from a close proximity of a small weapon
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Re: Charlie Kirk shooting suspect in custody after manhunt, officials announce.
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 22:22:19 UTC
so top penalty possible. life means life no parole. and from americas system of having FBI involved is obviously going to be federal level, so death penalty is possible
Well, I guess that the normal assumption for that penalty is about "a life for a life, a tooth for a tooth".

its not exactly just a assumtion/normalisation of life for life..

for instance if it was a car accident, no motive, no malice, no bad intent. just a bad result due to bad luck, which lead to someones death.. the driver does not deserve 'life for life justice'
if someone chokes on food or has food poisoning due to a restaurant where customer dies. the chef does not deserve 'life for life justice'

many deaths at the result of another person do not deserve life for life justice..

however when dealing with radicalised, malicious, violent people whom have made a intentional decision to kill. thats a different story where the circumstances then lead to the deeper judgement of higher required penalties
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot dead
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 21:17:46 UTC


I don't know whether he is the culprit or not, but what is circulating this photo in our discussion environment.


The picture is not clear so one can't really tell if it was a gun he was holding like that or not but the police can use some technology to make it more clear or dictate if that was a gun he was holding, if they do that and find out it was a gun he was holding then he should be arrested, and interrogated to find out if he was really the one that shot at Charlie Kirk because it may be a gun his holding but it could be for self defense as long as he is license to hold that gun when going out then one can't accuse him for the murder of Charlie Kirk.
The crime should be investigated very well so as to fine out who really killed Charlie Kirk, I believe there should be CCTV cameras in that place he was shot and people in that place may know where the gun shot came from, I believe if the police and FBI dig into that matter they will find the curprit.
This is not about being a gun because the culprit has already been arrested and will be charged to court very soon.
The police has been able to identify the culprit which was a 22 years collect student.
 He has no social identity and I believed this must have been masterminded by politician that is against free speech.

but to answer the question about the guy in blue
he was not some random student, faculty, visitor watching the debate. you can clearly see he is on the inside of the area, thus part of the entourage so would have been vetted and checked by security
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Re: Israel in the circle of political absurdity
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 20:33:56 UTC
aww poor guy again taking hamas's atrocities and trying to apply them to israel
hamas want genocide.
hamas execute palestinians for trying to take hamas stored food(stolen by hamas initialy from aid trucks destined for the palestinians)
hamas cut of hands, legs and decapitate. they also rape and kill babies.
look how many hamas killed raped and slaughtered in just one day oct 7th 2023.. then look deeper into how they treat palestinians and hostages since

No they did not do that. Even if your "Israël" created Hamas for that purpose. Hamas was supposed to help Israël to provide easy casus belli.
They had to invent this story of 40 babies decapitated that was a hoax.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_baby_beheading_hoax

You did absolutely everything you could to destroy palestinians souls but you failed.
You destroyed your souls, you are done, I cannot do anything for you.

hamas themselves admit to executing palestininans 'looting' from hamas aid storage
hamas themselves admit to 'taking control' of aid trucks

as for the children
do better research.. the wiki tries to use a haaretz media as source, which uses a "le monde" media story(propaganda) to suggest there were no dead babies.. but le monde admit to this though:

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Several reporters present at Kfar Aza, including from Le Monde, did not collect these testimonies, or considered them unreliable.
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Chen Kugel, director of Israel's National Center of Forensic Medicine, confirmed that bodies were found without heads, but explained to Le Monde not knowing whether they were dismembered deliberately by the assailants or by explosions or projectiles. With no real public denial from the Israeli authorities, this ambiguous communication helped to muddy the waters.

so even le monde initially began the denial propaganda but then got confirmation that there were dead kids..
then more rumours pushed the unable to identify if dismemberments were due to assailants hands or explosives to pretend yet again there were no decapitated kids(facepalm)
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Re: Israel Attack on Hamas Leaders in Doha
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 19:14:04 UTC
Donald Trump has shown several times that he is not to be trusted. He gave Iran a deadline to secure a deal and still attacked the country before the expiration of the ultimatum.
actually he gave a schedule of dates of different phases of negotiations but the week prior to the beginning of the next phase, iran declined to join talks and wanted to push the deadline, and shown signs they disagreed with the terms

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Re: Charlie Kirk shooting suspect in custody after manhunt, officials announce.
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 19:02:53 UTC
For anyone living in the US according to your legal system, what will be his penalty?

Frankly, I hope he serves the best penalty for taking a life he never gave, despite the contradicting political opinions he didn't deserve to be killed, from what i watched about Kirk, he never threatened anybody during those political discussions to believe only in his own policy.

I feel sad for the family, the only way the family can seek comfort is knowing that the killer is facing the right punishment but it still won't bring back the deceased.

this was not some car accident gone wrong leading to death. this was a planned organised sniper assassination, ontop of this it was on a busy university campus, thus causing excess fears and trauma of students unable to have avoided witnessing it first hand, affecting their ongoing studies with worry should any other well known speaker comes to campus or any maintenance guy on a rooftop, etc (people will be watching over shoulder from now on)

so top penalty possible. life means life no parole. and from americas system of having FBI involved is obviously going to be federal level, so death penalty is possible
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Re: Charlie Kirk shooting suspect in custody after manhunt, officials announce.
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 17:35:30 UTC
differing viewpoints is natural, as is learning.

just allowing some uninformed people to continue with some beliefs is where some people go radicalised and want to incite violence because they believe their uninformed belief is so strong that they will get angry with anyone who defies their opinion.
(the type of people that have never been taught the word no, until its too late)
we shouldnt let some people just continue with that viewpoint, we should educate them using data and facts to try to de-radicalise them and make them see sense and a place of open-mindedness, consideration, and teach them to research, understand and process information better, to make better decisions. instead of insisting on their closed mindedness and pretending no one should debate or oppose them
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Re: Poll: Should Decarlos Brown Jr be sentenced to death?
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 12:55:38 UTC
For an outsider, i feel like this case gets a press so much because it's being used to back up a narrative.

You might as well ask if mass shooters, Cops that kill defenceless people, January 6th Capitol attackers that killed cops, child abusers, murderers or sex offenders should get death sentences. If you take them case by case to push a narrative to ignore statistics, i feel like we are focusing on wrong issues.

I don't have an opinion other then that every case should be go by the book and not via some mob justice on how you feel about it, but then again, it's not my country.

well murder and news should take precedence in news media compared to pictures of puppies and commercial adverts. but yes certain murders get highlighted more whereby others get hidden behind stories of reporters visiting puppies that do tricks

the reason this particular murder is getting attention is because its not a murder that happened on the street. it happened on a train so gets uprated automatically to federal law. which i still feel is weird for 2 murders of same violent method to be treated differently simply because of the transport used.
if the guy followed her and then stabbed her as she was about to get a taxi, he would have only been handled at state level.

the other thing is this violent action is also a springboard for lobbyists to want to push other agenda's

im all for introducing more laws that protect people, without limiting freedoms.. so lets see how the ulterior agenda lobby decide to use this violent incident for their own motives. lets hope the loss of Iryna life brings positive results. and not turned into political game play to harm/limit more people
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Re: Israel in the circle of political absurdity
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 12:23:23 UTC
aww poor guy again taking hamas's atrocities and trying to apply them to israel
hamas want genocide.
hamas execute palestinians for trying to take hamas stored food(stolen by hamas initialy from aid trucks destined for the palestinians)
hamas cut of hands, legs and decapitate. they also rape and kill babies.
look how many hamas killed raped and slaughtered in just one day oct 7th 2023.. then look deeper into how they treat palestinians and hostages since

he cant even do math or use fact. he just runs on the fuel of emotion.. emotion triggered by misleading clickbait media.
poor guy when he wakes up to fact, data and statistic, he too will realise that he will need to cry about moderators of social media cutting away the facts to only leave the lies, deceit and propaganda.

when he realises that the hamas health ministry's own data about the amount of deaths do not reveal thousands of kids dying of starvation but instead at this moment under 130 since 2023(~130 out of hundreds of thousands).. where even the under 130 child deaths related to nutrition deficits are not majority due to lack of aid for months, but instead other co-comorbidities that required special attention, EG kids that just cant eat normal food even if piled up on the table because they have other medical issues of concern(birth defects and such like cystic fibrosis)
lets use a comparison of stats
UK births are 1.2m over 2 years... uk infant mortality rate is 4 per 1k birth meaning 4800
UK has 70m pop.. gaza has 2.. so lets divide all UK numbers by 35 to get like for like over view 4800 /35=137
so not much different compared to the uk health/food supply system
and as said the numbers of children in gaza was numbers supplied by hamas's own health minister

as for general population "starvation".. again israel are main country sending supplies in. you dont see jordon, lebanon or iran sending huge amounts to support their fellow arabs
but the population of gaza still remains over 2m.. if it were genocide via starvation. knowing soneone can die in months without food, they would all be dead by now. but their population remains above 2m..

when he realises its actually israel sending in the aid inside the gaza border, destined to be distributed for free to palestinians.. but hamas ambushing it on route, to feed the good stuff to troops/affiliates as salary/brines. and then sells the rest at inflated markets.. but then he finds out also that hamas are using lawfare themselves to not class it as theft under UN's reports.. even though the aid 'transfered to recognised government' in many cases reaches the destination food aid distribution sites due to ambushes(oops i mean transfers). he will rightfully call out their "lawfare" abuses

when he realises the ~70k war related death over last couple years are not of women and children of innocent palestinians.. but a mass co-mingling of hamas troops, hamas leaders, affiliates, co-conspirers, their families and others coerced, bribed, held hostage to stay around hamas strongholds to be used as martyrs, pawns and human shields in majority of that number.. he might realise the crappy tactics of hamas to cause unneeded death 'of women and children'..

then when he runs said numbers and realise the proportionality of intended vs collateral, is actually seen in the numbers that israel done all it can to minimise collateral casualties compared to other urban warfare wars. he might wake up. and yep again the war related deaths of 70k currently are again hamas's health ministry stats.. even hamas admit the numbers they produce are co-mingled with troops and operational personnel and their families, so the number of true, uninvolved innocents is a low number mixed in with those wrapped up as intended targets
when you work out how many troops and affiliates of military significance kill you will see the left over amount of 'others'(innocents) being a low proportional number

israel send warnings when hamas take over a new residential area for their military operations, israel warn the innocent population to disperse and evacuate, israel create safe zones and declare the area now occupied by hamas as a target zone. after giving time for innocents to evacuate.. but do hamas tell population to evacuate when hamas decide they lik
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Re: Israel in the circle of political absurdity
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 10:21:32 UTC
aww poor lil guy above has no clue..

he cant even do math or use fact. he just runs on the fuel of emotion.. emotion triggered by misleading clickbait media.
poor guy when he wakes up to fact, data and statistic, he too will realise that he will need to cry about moderators of social media cutting away the facts to only leave the lies, deceit and propaganda.

when he realises that the hamas health ministry's own data about the amount of deaths do not reveal thousands of kids dying of starvation but instead at this moment under 130 since 2023(out of hundreds of thousands).. where even the under 130 child deaths related to nutrition deficits are not majority due to lack of aid for months, but instead other co-comorbidities that required special attention, EG kids that just cant eat normal food even if piled up on the table because they have other medical issues of concern
lets use a comparison
UK births are 1.2m over 2 years... uk infant mortality rate is 4 per 1k birth meaning 4800
UK has 70m pop.. gaza has 2.. so lets divide all UK numbers by 35 to get like for like over view 4800 /35=137
so not much different compared to the uk health/food supply system
and as said the numbers of children in gaza was numbers supplied by hamas's own health minister

as for general population "starvation" again israel are main country sending supplies in. you dont see jordon, lebanon or iran sending huge amounts
but the population of gaza still remains over 2m

when he realises its actually israel sending in the aid inside the gaza border, destined to be distributed for free to palestinians.. but hamas ambushing it on route, to feed the good stuff to troops/affiliates as salary/brines. and then sells the rest at inflated markets.. but then he finds out also that hamas are using lawfare themselves to not class it as theft under UN's reports.. even though the aid 'transfered to recognised government' in many cases reaches the destination food aid distribution sites due to ambushes(oops i mean transfers). he will rightfully call out their "lawfare" abuses

when he realises the ~70k war related death over last couple years are not of women and children of innocent palestinians.. but a mass co-mingling of hamas troops, hamas leaders, affiliates, co-conspirers, their families and others coerced, bribed, held hostage to stay around hamas strongholds to be used as martyrs, pawns and human shields in majority of that number.. he might realise the crappy tactics of hamas to cause unneeded death 'of women and children'..

then when he runs said numbers and realise the proportionality of intended vs collateral, is actually seen in the numbers that israel done all it can to minimise collateral casualties compared to other urban warfare wars. he might wake up. and yep again the war related deaths of 70k currently are again hamas's health ministry stats.. even hamas admit the numbers they produce are co-mingled with troops and operational personnel and their families, so the number of true, uninvolved innocents is a low number mixed in with those wrapped up as intended targets

israel send warnings when hamas take over a new residential area for their military operations, israel warn the innocent population to disperse and evacuate, israel create safe zones and declare the area now occupied by hamas as a target zone. after giving time for innocents to evacuate.. but do hamas tell population to evacuate when hamas decide they like a new area as their base of operations.. nope
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Re: Israel in the circle of political absurdity
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 03:59:18 UTC
so many mistakes so many clarifications needed
Israel carried out a raid on the capital of Qatar,
Isreal never raided qatar. israel never even entered territory of qatar st start a war. nor hit qatar
legally and intentionally israel hit hamas sovereign territory. qatar have no jurisdiction over the land which the compound sits on. it held a hamas embassy thus not qatar land. qatars hands are tied as to what it can or cannot do on that land.

killing Palestinians responsible for negotiations to end the hostilities in Gaza and free the hostages.
they were not innocent palestinians they were all part of the hamas envoy. a group of jihadi arabs governing gaxa but not to help palestinians, but instead to use palestinians to further a jihadi agenda sponsored by the tehran regime. the hamas negotiators had already declined any offers or suggestions made from israeli/us/qatar negotiators.

Now Israel will have no one to negotiate with, and the issue of freeing the hostages is once again postponed along with the issue of ending the war. Thus, Netanyahu is following his plan not to stop the war, and he does not care about the fate of the hostages.
negotiations failed before the strike. and im sure hamas will find someone else to talk with the international groups once things get more worrying for hamas. infact once hamas are removed, an ACTUAL peaceful palestinian civilian political party will come to the negotiation table to be recognised as the temporary replacement government until elections are held.

At the same time, in the international Talking Room, that is, the UN, the issue of recognizing the state of Palestine will be discussed once again, with the same negative final result, thanks to the veto of the country that is the bulwark of world democracy and justice.
once hamas are gone peacedeals can be met with a replacement political party wishing to govern gaza(aka philitinia aka proposed palestine) from a non military peaceful political group. where the rebuilding and peace can begin

allowing hamas to continue governing and continue practicing their military actions is not a path to peace nor recognition of gaza as palestine. removing and replacing hamas is
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Re: Israel Attack on Hamas Leaders in Doha
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franky1
on 12/09/2025, 00:10:37 UTC
Do you know which countries are the most fearful right now? They are the Arab countries that have normalized relations with Israel. I mean here specifically the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Morocco. All of these countries issued statements condemning the Israeli operation after it became clear to them that normalizing relations with Israel is not enough to stay far from its evil. Even seeking refuge in America is no guarantee of any protection from Zionist attacks.

Israel has imposed a logic of loyalty and absolute obedience, which is the only way to avoid confrontation. We wait to see who will be the next country on the list of the Zionist settlement project in the region, which will clearly transcend all geographical borders, as we see today.

qatar also "normalised" relations with hamas.. the attack happened due to hamas
also worth noting.. the compound:embassy/hq/residence to which hamas hides within is not actually terriroty or jurisdiction of qatar.. hamas's own diplomatic and sovereign territory. not part of qatars jurisdiction

isreal did not actually strike "qatar".. it struck hamas territory and property which just so happens to be within qatar.. the intent was not to hit qatari's or declare war with qatar

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as for "zionist settlement project"
zionism is the pursuit of settlement for jews.. im sorry to inform you but jews settled in the region along time ago.. the pursuit ended successfully along time ago. the zionist program is done and succeeded. making your use of the word obsolete
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Re: no to genocide.
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 22:39:39 UTC
There is a thin difference between genocide and conflicts that leads to war.

The recent War between Israel and Iran originated from a long conflicts they had that in turn later led to disagreement and War. During a war, if the other opponent surrenders, the war comes to an end. While genocide is a deliberate slaughter of a particular group or nation due to differences.

nope you got that wrong too, yoou are seemingly trying to dilute the term down to make the definitions thinly different

starting war due to disagreement is not genocide
starting war due to disagreement is not genocide even if other side does not surrender
killing each other over a disagreement is not genocide

intentionally wanting the entire race/nation exterminated IS genocide

israel want the removal of a terrorist group from governing a region of territory is war not genocide
hamas want death to all isreali's and americans is genocide not war
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Re: Poland should reserve the right to down Ruzzian drones over western Ukraine
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 18:01:18 UTC
-cut-
obviously to legally protect itself (should a drone owner(russia) cry foul of a bad shoot/damage/declaration of war..) poland would need to have done some kind of investigation to declare good reason to shoot it down. EG it came within polish borders.. if poland said it was 100km away from poland, russia could call it a message from poland declaring war on russia.. which would be a bad case to initiate
Why would they need to legally protect themselves? Russia denied sending them, so why would Russia even mind? And which court you think would defend individual doing this?

no country, including poland cant just shot anything. lets make up a country lets call it "dogwagtailistan" now lets say dogwagtailistan decided to airstrike a 'google street' aircraft or high altitude starlink satellite.. they need to justify the strike especially if its one countries attack on another countries property, the international courts would mediate/judge this

as for individual doing this.. well the height the drones can achieve i dont think it would be some 'individual' shooting it down with a handgun..
,, but when it comes to military actions they need to classify the attack via intel and such to justify the hit on a drone as a military concern. else it could be seen as a declaration of war instead of self defense

most idiots in this forum keep thinking war is just random attacks intent on killing anyone. they dont understand nor want to looking into military strategy, tactics and the rules of battle that determine if an incident is self defence, a military act, a intentful attack, and other such details like if there were any mitigating factors or intel to show how concerning the risk of the target can be.

by ignoring this. they want to exaggerate any and all  attacks as terrorist or genocide or other buzzwords.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot dead
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 17:24:58 UTC
i know some lobbyists are probably going to want to turn all universities into prison walled institutions, all bags checked all identities shown and camera's on every foot of the campus, trying to push for security overreach, and reduce peoples freedoms of movements (probably snipers ulterior motives)
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the university does have multiple camera's and the sniper wasnt using a handgun, so shouldnt be hard to review security camera's to see whom was carrying a large object into the building the sniper used. and then trace from camera to camera the path taken back to some vehicle or location to identify the culprit, it just will take time to investigate/review

this was not some situation of 1960's grassy knoll. it was ontop a building in the middle of campus with lots of angles of cameras

The FBI has reported that the shooter was wearing an all dark outfit. I think the camera has spotted him running on top of the building after the shooting.
It wont be hard to identify the shooter, if they review the video of people fleeing the scene after hearing the gunshot. Of course the shooter isn't some teleporter. He would come down the building mix in the crowd and flee.

Well, I dont know if the shooter fled without the gun or perhaps he took the gun and fled. Anyway, just like you said, the cameras of course would have captured every person coming into the premises and would easily identify someone carrying a big object into the building. Another thing to consider is, what if the shooter has been in the building even before the conference started. Everything was well planned.
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More digging will be done..

update: the FBI have followed a figure of such description from the building to a wooded area off campus.. where he dumped his weapon. so they have reviewed and traced his exit off campus. they are now viewing other footage before the assassination to trace that path backwards and then they will be be looking at further ways to trace him off campus after the assassination. they have a picture of "a person of interest" but not identified the name yet. they have the gun, a footprint and a palm print and are forensically looking into those

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Re: Israel Attack on Hamas Leaders in Doha
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 17:17:36 UTC
Qatar has one of most advanced Air force yet everyone is sure that Qatar won't give any response to Israel aggression. It's Qatar today, whose next?  

the attack was not on or aimed for "qater" it was aimed for hamas..
heck even you admit to know that certain facilities have their own sovereign territory in other hosting countries, which separates them from the hosting country in way, diplomacy and such
as you say one such other example
US Central Command has its headquarters at the Al Udeid Air Base Qatar and that's why it's impossible for anyone to come near to this area without US permission. In fact Gulf countries have given there lands to US for military bases with mindset that such moves will make them safe.
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Re: Israel Attack on Hamas Leaders in Doha
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 16:58:46 UTC
israel warned days ago it will strike hamas no matter where they hide.. and no this is not a declaration of war on all countries either..
You didn't want to comment on this. And you have failed to accept that you were wrong.

Imagine the depravity of hamas using qatar as a hiding place bringing the aim towards qatar..

the funny thing is that hamas dont actually go to a central committee buiilding of different nations to negotiate. they hide in the embassy and phone in their deals.. so they could do that from anywhere else, including in gaza.. so what qatar would probably do next is to tell hamas not to send any more "negotiators" to qatar and instead just phone in anything from gaza
The US approved this negotiation with Hamas in Qatar. You should accept that this is a blatant violation of the territorial integrity of a sovereign nation. There are many wanted people, nationals of other countries who are living in the US. The US would respond violently if they were killed on its soil. 

i have commented on it, you have failed to look into it deeper. you just want spoonfeeds

also the US did not meet with hamas in qatar(face to face). the US did not invite hamas to come to the territory of qatar. hamas were already in qatar for other military coward reasons

hamas leaders operate long term from qatar but only operate in negotiations via phone meaning there is no need for them to be in qatar just to do negotiations
they could do negotiations in the same format from gaza. the only reason hamas were in qatar was they use it for their military operations and have been hiding there for a long period, unrelated to the negotiations

the only means and opportunity to take out these leaders is at their hiding place
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Re: Israel Attack on Hamas Leaders in Doha
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 14:21:38 UTC
Imagine the depravity of hamas using qatar as a hiding place bringing the aim towards qatar..

the funny thing is that hamas dont actually go to a central committee building of different nations to negotiate. they hide in the embassy and phone in their deals.. so they could do that from anywhere else, including in gaza.. so what qatar would probably do next is to tell hamas not to send any more "negotiators" to qatar and instead just phone in anything from gaza
It's funny to imagine how you people think. Double standards everywhere, and it makes my point clear. The West and Israel just love to play a game of hypocrisy, and all they do is change goal posts every other time in their favor. That attack in Doha was an act of terrorism, clear as day, backed by the US/Western weapons, intel, and help. You can't just brush that off.

I would imagine how much the West would be fuming if for example Ukraine had decided to bomb a couple of buildings they were suspecting Putin was hiding in while in Alaska  Grin

if putin was permanently hiding in alaska for years, whilst giving orders on how to fight in ukraine. then the alaska building would and could become a worthwhile military target. much like how many countries hit us military bases, but dont exceed that intent, by not targetting random other sites.

this does not mean they are causing terrorism against the host nation if the only target is that of military interest

israel are at war with hamas. israels intended target is clear and transparent there is not brushing it off.

however some idiots want to exaggerate a targeted attack on a intended military target, into being a form of terrorism against qatar itself.
some idiots also want to pretend that the intended targets were not hit and instead only "palestinian citizens" were hit to try to escalate and exagerate

they need to learn what the word terrorism is. because not every attack is a form of terrorism.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot dead
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 12:20:58 UTC
Riddle me that, how does a  bullet change the ring being on another finger?

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answer:
your single image edit of the ring finger does not mean the entire scene was fake.. just the image you sourced..
many many many other source pictures and videos from multiple sources and multiple angled debunks your single image edit you sourced
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Re: Poland should reserve the right to down Ruzzian drones over western Ukraine
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franky1
on 11/09/2025, 11:30:18 UTC
Does not matter where they come from or how far they flew. Drone ends up in western Ukraine, gets jammed, goes Poland. This is a posibility of among others.

And BTW some of them do go for hundreds of km unchecked or pass by mere saturation of defences, plus and the ones in Poland carried an extra fuel "bag" instead of warheads.
before.. [Occam's razor] the simplest logical version based on available information usually turns out to be the truth

Then it is a provocation. But Occam's does not always work with Ruzzia - sometimes the most abstract "reason" is their "reason".

the  'Gerbera' drones only have normal fuel load to do ~200m(300km) or... ~400m(600km) "with extra fuelbag"
now run the math.. see how far you get.. literally
definitely not russia -> east to west ukraine-> south to north poland to get to the baltic sea