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Re: Otherworld.xyz | World's First Fantasy Real-Estate Crypto Casino 🏙️
I am also very careful about telegram because scammers like operating there. But if you don't join several channels and groups, you won't be inviting scammers to yourself.
Speaking about telegram betting of Otherworld. It is not a new thing, you can actually play on telegram for many casinos. It is not a difficult task and doesn't require much set up
All you need do is to follow their direct link from the website or this thread and sign up with them on telegram and you are all set.
Speaking about telegram betting of Otherworld. It is not a new thing, you can actually play on telegram for many casinos. It is not a difficult task and doesn't require much set up
All you need do is to follow their direct link from the website or this thread and sign up with them on telegram and you are all set.
As long as the link is provided by the administrator or a known representative of the casino and is officially announced on their website or official telegram announcement channel, I think there is nothing to worry as long as the channel is not hacked. I have long left Telegram since lots of channels there are spam or created by personally motivated individuals that does not care about their members but their own benefits. I only check it when there is an important thing to do that is related to my current activities.
I am also very careful about telegram because scammers like operating there. But if you don't join several channels and groups, you won't be inviting scammers to yourself.
Speaking about telegram betting of Otherworld. It is not a new thing, you can actually play on telegram for many casinos. It is not a difficult task and doesn't require much set up
All you need do is to follow their direct link from the website or this thread and sign up with them on telegram and you are all set.
Speaking about telegram betting of Otherworld. It is not a new thing, you can actually play on telegram for many casinos. It is not a difficult task and doesn't require much set up
All you need do is to follow their direct link from the website or this thread and sign up with them on telegram and you are all set.
As long as one practices good security habits and be cautious enough in the internet, chances are they will be safe. I personally have never been scammed in any social platforms or anywhere.
I would also recommend checking out privacy and security settings in telegram like make sure nobody would be able to add you to group chats. This would minimize annoying scammers lol.
True, just ignore unsolicited messages. And never be tempted by the good to be true offer. Oftentimes, scammers reach out to our greed, and it is up to us to entertain; I suggest blocking them completely. There is no good result on these too-good-to-be-true offers; it often ends up in losses.
I have encountered others who are skeptic about this view of zero risk on bitcoin investment but to no avail has anyone been able to prove my points wrong.
Lots of replies here prove you're points to be wrong, it is up to you to acknowledge them, and I won't argue if you don't want to
.If you have to consider the future uncertainty of bitcoin, on what basis precisely are you pointing at? The volatility aspect or future price assumptions such as we speculates based on our personal analysis that we still don't get it correct of it certain date and time of when it would happen? Of of course if that is what you tend to hold upon, that is not the case here because if if investors as I suggested earlier can take absolutely control of their emotions with the uncertainty, then what else do we fear? Or do you prefer the risk on the uncertainty that bitcoin may crash in the future?
I would like us to look into this. Perhaps it is debatable just as you saide.
I would like us to look into this. Perhaps it is debatable just as you saide.
As stated, it is not about the price of Bitcoin but the investment itself, how a person keep his BTC as there is always risk of losing the seed phrases for some reason, or the system being hacked, emptying the wallet address. There is also the possibility of a ledger where the person keeps their BTC being corrupted, making files unrecoverable losing the BTC in it. There are lots of factors that may not go as a person intends, and that is what we call risks.
OP, I disagree with your number 2 option, which states that "Investment has zero risk", and I will let you know that investment alone is highly risky to get involved in because there is every uncertainty attached to every investment whenever it is attempted. You should understand that every investment comes with a risk, and as a matter of fact, there are lots of things one needs to put into consideration before they invest in a business, and these things are just the pros and cons that ought to be put in place in preparation for any unforeseen event. So, if one would prepare for unforeseen occurrences, do you not think that every investment comes with its own risk?
As I understand, the OP on option 2 was correct. I believe there is indeed zero risk when you invest alone in Bitcoin, for example.
Just read the last part.
This is debatable, but yes, we respect others' opinions. In Technicality, there is no absolute no-risk investment. The reason behind this is that the future is uncertain. That alone is a risk for people who invested even in Bitcoin.
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"Investment has zero risk but demands your patience to make you rich or successful, probably in the long term."
The words "but," "patience," and "long term" imply that you need to wait patiently after investing until your profit comes. That's the point of the OP, perhaps.Trading, on the other hand, carries a higher risk compared to investing.
As long as you can wait for the right moment when Bitcoin reaches another ATH, that could be the right time to make a profit. However, the issue is that you need to wait, and there’s no specific timeframe for when you will see a profit. Therefore, having an investment and holding it for the long run would be a good idea.
I believe the thought of not knowing the future is good enough to contradict patience and long-term to support the zero risk investment. There are lots of what-ifs in the future, others may not happen today but the possibility of this what-if happening in the future is also possible. So I think the fact that we know that there are uncertainties in the future is a strong ground to support that even when investing in Bitcoin there is still risk involve even if the risk is so little.
The title explained it all, over this forum and let say you have been gambling for long now and managed secure winning, maybe you been gambling trying t recover but got luckily one day hit the special multiplier, how do you feels then, you think what you won is enough for you to cover up your expenses while during the period of the time you had been gambling since then?
It is obvious that if this kind of scenario happens to anyone, he will surely feel great happy and excited.
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IICRC, any gambler who has been gambling for years now or maybe for some months without winning and even if they look back to see their previous performances and decides to draw an end towards the games they were betting on would you be that free to still continue gambling? or as bettor or gambler you don't care whether other wins or not. What they could mostly be concerned is about people who are looking for one way or the order to make sure people wins and especially when they are newbie bettor do you think this is another way to draw them or lure them the more into gambling?
If you are talking about streamers that are playing with modified RTP that is favorable to player then I can say the huge winnings seen on that stream is one of the "dirty" tactic of the casino to lure naive gambler into playing in their platform since people tends to fantasize huge wins and placing themselves to the person who got that huge winnings. They will be tempted to play on the platform, trying to duplicate the winnings seen on the streams.
If you guys can remember, there was an old topic on this board that say that gamblers can not win a casino. While some people believed that that was true, some gamblers also opposed that statement because they believed that sometimes a gambler can win the casino. They believed that if a gambler wins a jackpot, he or she have won the casino, could that be true?
Even if the person does not win a jackpot, he can be said to have won against the casino if he is ahead of his initial bankroll after his session. I think it does not need to win a huge amount of money or win a huge jackpot in order to consider to have won against the casino. Just being ahead is good enough unless his advantage is nullified and his bankroll is emptied.
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Some people can win a huge amount as jackpota but yet the amount that they won can not be compared to how much money they have lost in entire life while gambling, can you say such person has won the casino because they won a jackpot?
True, in order to say a person had won against the casino, his total winnings must surpass his total losses.
If you believe that sometimes, gamblers can also win the casino, kindly drop all the explanation of why you have such a believe.
I believe that gamblers can beat the casino as long as he stop while ahead. Playing for too long may emptied his bankroll because housed edge may kick in and series of losses may increase overtime resulting for the players loss.
No wonder if prisoners can playing gambling inside the prison because they can bribing the guards easily to allow them doing many things. Maybe gambling for them is just for entertainment but sometimes, they can share the info from the outside or running their business. It happens in many prisons where many prisoners can still lives comfort like in outside.
If I am not mistaken, I think they are hosted by high high-ranking officials. Since there are programs for prisoners in my country to earn money, it is probable that the authority who is in charge of these prisoners wanted to milk them of their income so these people allowed gambling and other sorts of illegal activity inside the prison. I heard a rumor in some cases that convicted criminals who are already in jail gain temporary freedom in order to execute targeted people.
Smuggling something from outside to inside of prisons is usual things to do so that will not be a problem for them. Bribing the guards is also help them to get what they want from the outside.
This is a huge source of money for the corrupt officials, so they will definitely allow these kinds of transactions.
Re: [Boxing] Mario Barrios vs Manny Pacquiao WBC Welterweight Title - July 19
It's just that I remember the Tyson vs Paul, same feeling, we thought that Tyson has something inside of him and still can win that fight and so we bet on him as our sentimental favorite. In any case, I will not argue against those who will go and say that we can't compare them as that fight could have been rigged and manipulated and that Tyson is just there to show and collect his huge paycheck.
I also have a feeling that the Tyson vs Paul match is scripted, but regardless of the result, I am happy for Mike Tyson that he is able to bag a good amount of money at his age, and that is thanks to Paul. No one was hurt, and the old guy had earned a good amount of money. it is a win win scenario for both of them.
About the discussed upcoming fight, I think this will tell if Manny still has it or it is time for him to completely hang up his gloves. I hope that no one got hurt in this fight. I am hoping that Manny wins this fight, but if not, it is fine as long as the boxers are fine after the fight.
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So it seems hard to trust now to be honest, especially if their game apps are built into telegram apps just like you're saying dude. It's still different because their apps themselves are actually
on their website instead of going to telegram apps just to try to play the games.
on their website instead of going to telegram apps just to try to play the games.
What are you talking about? They are discussing about the application's real-time execution. Which one is lagging and which one is faster? I think it has nothing to do with the "Trust" thingy. and besides, the official site also endorses and confirms that the game can be accessed through Telegram so it does not make any difference if one access the game through Telegram or through the site, but the performance.
I will like to pass a serious message from the ugly incidence I had witnessed. I have this friends that were couple and have been couple for a long time this guys always share even thing together especially same orientation about life, I was open to them that I do gamble they don’t like it at all but I made them understand that I am an adult and that’s my life, recently the lady found that the guy do gamble and he owned up that he has been doing it for a while too. They are broken up now on the grounds of mistrust.
All I can say is that the couple's relationship is too shallow if they broke up for the sole reason that the guy has kept its gambling activity a secret. I think there is much more to it.
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I will like people to learn from this because many people gamble in secret for what ever reason and the have companions who knows nothing about this and when exposed can cause the relationship to split or have cracks.
It is the right of the person to do whatever he wanted to do even when the person has a partner as long as it won't affect the other party negatively. If he wanted to keep it a secret, it is his right to do so since I am sure the other party has their own secrets too. So what if the other party finds out that the person is gambling as long as it does not affect their finances negatively, I can't find any problem with that.
If you gamble it is of your interest and that of your spouse, you both need to share same orientation about gambling or given a chance to understand and respect the other person gambling choice and if they won’t then either they go or you reconsider your choice.
As a couple I also agree that there should not be secret between them but a gambling activity that does not affect their finance negatively should not be the reason for break up unless the situation is worse than what is told.
Why should an adult keep their gambling choice away from their lover that’s deceit to me. Gambling is not a dirty secret.
It is possible that it is not worth telling since they were not affected negatively anyway, it is up to the person to tell his partner or not, and it is the person's right to decide on this matter.
Bitcoin for everyone and so the quantity determines if its for the rich or poor
If Bitcoin is for everyone then it does not matter whether a person buy a portion of it or several number of it. The fact that poor people can buy Bitcoin even in parts, it conveys that Bitcoin can be bought by everyone.
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How much quantity can be bought and how long to profit greatly off the quantity at stock, examining this will greatly favours the rich more than the poor, imagine getting $50 worth bitcoin and expect huge outcome, nah, that cant be possible.
This does not mean that Bitcoin is only for the rich. The amount a person can buy is dependent on his capital and we all know that capital is not only define rich people, as long as the person has the money to buy, then he has the capital, and we all know that some exchanges allows people to buyas low as $5 value of bitcoin.
So a rich person using $500k to purchase about 4.7 btc is worth the outcome and gain more faster and bigger in little price increase. So the rich keeps getting richer while the poor struggles with the gain that come with it.
Again this does not mean that Bitcoin is only available to rich people.
Please is long I'm trying to learn about crypto generally but I don't seem to understand most things as if am left out. I leant that even the crypto market is going against you can still make gain out of the situation because to me am only experiencing lost and depression. Please what do I do whenever the market is experiencing deepening? Is there a to reverse your trade or investment at that point that will make you gain instead of lost?
This depends on the cryptocurrency you are trading. if you are trading Bitcoin holding it is the best move if the price is dropping. Every Bitcoin halving there is a pattern that Bitcoin will go into a bullish market and eventually break ATH. So holding Bitcoin when price is going down is the best move to avoid losses although it may take some time.
If you are holding shitcoins, then the moment the market goes down, it is best to sell to avoid further losses. It has been observed that shitcoins are shortlived markets, once they dropped there is a huge chance of not recovering leaving most people who holds with worthless tokens/coins.
Maybe in prison they are not betting with money rather some task and chores that assigned to them since they don’t care about money when you’re in jail.
This is all with the jail warden's knowledge. If the jail warden is not corrupt, how come these things will be present? Jail warden often let these things slide because they benefit from it. And as far as I know, inmates in the Philippines can earn some money due to the livelihood projects that were established there. So inmates can gamble with the money they earn inside the prison.
Btw, prisoners do care about money since it is their ticket to talk to their relatives, since some wardens make it a business to let inmates pay some amount to convey a message or even call their relatives. As long as the price is right, inmates are allowed certain things that are prohibited in prison.
Re: Proof that gambling may ruin any career when greed takes over
I don't understand why Beasley would do such a stupid thing?
It is simple, his love for money more than his career had muddled his mind. It is greed that makes him do things that he knows are illegal and yet thinks that he is smart enough to make people not notice his cheating.
If a person is consumed by greed, he won't think of anything but how to execute his plan on making more money. The person will always disregard the people around them and only focus on taking advantage of the situation to make money whether legally or illegaly.
The topic has nothing to do with gambling but with a person's greed.
Gambling and trading are same thing
As far as I understand gambling and trading are not the same thing, even the risk involved is not the same thing.
Do you allow yourself to bet on ridiculous things?
I really like betting on the underdog, especially when the odds are really low since it can give a huge winnings if I got lucky. But as much as I wanted to do it I control myself betting only a few times every month, since the possibility of losing is really huge.
This got me thinking how sometimes betting on the impossible could give you insane benefits. I know this will not happen all the time but those who had chosen to bet on Hulkenberg that day for fun got insanely lucky and won big.
Just like I always read, the gambling result is unpredictable, and that time those who bet on the underdog got lucky, and we cannot set that as an example to tell people that it is a good thing to always bet on the underdog because if luck does not smile on them, they will eventually messe up their finances and can bring more problem than gain.
Re: Bitcoin investors will be the future wealthiest people.
I think the days of making lots of money with Bitcoin are finally over. Even if Bitcoin doubles and you invest $1000 your profit is only $1000. This is completely different than what happened before when I first learned about bitcoin it was around $300 and it had a low of $200 so if I put all my savings back, then I could’ve been fairly wealthy. However, right now the price is so high that it cannot get much higher because the market cap is already high. I think the ship has sailed.
It is not finally over, but it needs a lot more time than before. In the early years of Bitcoin, there was a rapid growth in price where ones investment can multiply to 1000 folds in just a cycle or two, but the current situation of Bitcoin growth has somehow slowed down now. So it really needs a longer time or a few cycles to get at least 10x of our initial investment if we happen to invest at the current cycle peak. So, to maximize the time in relation to profit, it is best to buy during the bear market.
Re: Otherworld.xyz | World's First Fantasy Real-Estate Crypto Casino 🏙️
It is lighter to open Otherworld.xyz on Telegram than opening it via a browser. I open Otherworld.xyz on the web and it loads quite heavily and is very slow. I am more comfortable on the Telegram mini app. Anyone who hasn't tried it, please try it because it runs smoothly.
Is it true? I still try on the mini telegram application and the result is still the same, this casino cannot be accessed because of the border area... So whether it's a mini app version or whatever, it's still constrained by the border.I think it depends on the browser used. I feel no difference between both platforms (telegram and browser), when using Google Chrome as a browser, but when I use other browsers like Waterfox, the loading takes some time. Btw, I am using a desktop computer. I do not know about mobile applications since I am not fond of using them, just like @Zwei. My reason is that I hate small screens.
Back in 2021, El Salvador took the first step into making Bitcoin legal tender. It defied the establishment by proving BTC can be used as an alternative to Fiat. Set ourselves forward 4 years later, and now El Salvador is regretting its decision. It made a deal with the IMF, in exchange of limiting its involvement with the world's beloved cryptocurrency. I guess all good things come to an end.
I do not think that El Salvador regrets making Bitcoin a legal tender. It does no tharm its economy in anyway. So I am wondering where does El Salvador regrets making Bitcoin a legal tender. Can you give us the statement of the government saying they are regretting their decision in making Bitcoin a legal tender?
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I wonder what could've been the culprit of Bitcoin's limited adoption within the country? Was it bad planning/execution? What if El Salvador rejected the IMF's demands? Would've it survived with Bitcoin as its sole currency? I mean, the government continues to buy BTC. At some point, it would've paid off its debt. That would've help turn it into a developed country in the long run.
I think the decision of El Salvador about Bitcoin being a legal tender is more of a political agenda. They are promised something in exchange for making Bitcoin an optional (not mandatory) legal tender. Bitcoin is still allowed to be used as a payment option, but is limited and cannot be used in government transactions.
2; Investment has zero risk but demands your patient to get you rich or successful probably in a long term.
Let them decide and make wise or foolish decisions of themselves.
I disagree with this 2nd pointer. Investment has always riskand will not close to zero. Yes beung an investor needs a lot of patient but it doesnt mean that you domt have risk, theres always a chance that even you are long holder the result might not resultes into gains. Some loeses too even they arr patieny enough to hold their asset cause the chance of losing is also there not just winning. Let them decide and make wise or foolish decisions of themselves.
Not only the 2nd pointer, but even the 1st pointer has its flaws. Let's take Bitcoin as an example, if one is trading Bitcoin today, he would not get rich overnight unless he is already rich enough to buy million dollars worth of Bitcoin and trade it to get a good amount of profit.
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1; Trading is risky that it can empty your savings overnight but when lucky with good allocated strategies, you can be get rich overnight or probably in Short term. This means you are at the pool of gambling with less chances if at all you will make it a success.
In normal trading, one needs a huge capital to get huge amount of profit from trading. Aside from that, trading and gambling are two different things. If one is successful in trading, it means he is knowledgeable enough about the movement of the asset he is trading and have a hint of the projection of the future movement of that asset. That is very far from gambling, where a person relies on his luck to hit it big.
Re: Does it make any meaning knowing gambling is a game of chances and yet you gambl
As the title says; does it makes any meaning knowing gambling is a game of chances and yet you gamble?
It does, if one wanted to take their chance to hit a good amount of winnings. It makes sense when a person wanted to make his $20 bankroll into a $200 bankroll. It is the same as taking chances in a job interview to be hired.
So if for you it does not make sense, then it also does not make sense for you those actions where people are taking their chance to get a job?
Aside from these chances, for those who wanted to have entertainment through gambling, it does make sense for them since they find entertainment at a cost of their bankroll. Just like people watching movies, hiking and other kind of leisure where people spend money to be entertained.
Re: Deposit threshold can minimize gambling addiction from poor sector?!
Do you believe that the Deposit threshold can minimize gambling addiction in the poor sector?!
No. People who meet the deposit threshold can just look for another casino to play. Gambling addiction is a matter of self-control. Even if each casino minimizes the deposit threshold to $10, people who are hooked on gambling will always look for ways to gamble. It is not the amount of deposit that makes a person addicted to gambling; it is its exposure and lack of self-control or personal vulnerability that trigger gambling addiction.