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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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on 24/06/2025, 08:28:44 UTC
Because, if a casino has 100 to 1k users (depends on casino size) who play with deposits, then they have only 1 to 5 users from Bitcointalk. So, it is normal to see the complaints from newbie users. I have followed numerous scam accusations here in the forum. If I remember it correctly, then I haven't seen anyone to submit a complaint with fake screenshots.
I saw some before. I cant remember the threads, but there are a few of them who make fake screenshots, but the fact is they use it to destroy the casino's reputation.
Since a casino is a business, this kind of attack is normally made by, I think, their competitor or maybe some people who lose a lot at that casino, and this is their way of revenge, but look at those highly reputable Bitcointalk gamblers who do gamble at the same casino. Why they don't complain? They haven't experienced similar issues, I agree, but I still don't hear of a reputable Bitcointalk member giving a scam accusation against a reputable casino; most likely their case is solved immediately.
However, on newbies, it looks like the account was created just for destroying casino reputation, or it's just a marketing strategy. They never came back with proof except to those serious people about the case who keep coming back but can't provide proof; their case has never been solved.

The fact that you seen my "fake" proof and refrain from making comments looks like you always will take sides with your beloved betpanda. Money buy everything doesnt it?

I'll definitely open a scam thread and expose everything so people don't lose what are theirs.
Nothing will be changed even if you create a scam accusation against them now. Your account was flagged by the odds provider. Betpanda team has already explained the reason to you in detail through an email. They won't share the sensitive evidence here for the privacy and regulation.

I know it won't make they return my money. But if I prevent atleast one user from being scammed, I will be very satisfied.
The few stuff I've read here were positive things about this casino, but the real truth is hidden, and it is not pretty.
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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on 23/06/2025, 14:05:40 UTC
They are saying I am betting on fixed matches, that I know the outcome - When I am betting on LCK, LPL, CS Tier1 LANS and dota2- Tier 1 - LAN matches. Of all the fixtures I could fix, why would I fix high liquidity T1 tournaments, where people are battling for millions of USD? I am not betting on tier 7 tennis or amateur football.
No, they haven't said that you were placing bets on fixed matches. Here is the key point of their final response

In this instance, what raised the suspicions of our Sportsbook provider were bets that were placed simultaneously or extremely close to the events happening in real time, meaning you could have been aware of the outcome when placing the bet. You are of course welcome to contact the provider Betby to contest the outcome of the investigation if you wish.

So, you have been accused of placing bets ahead of the real-time update of the odds feed. Occasionally, Sportsbook makes delays to update the odds feed. And there is a group of people who take the advantage of latency by getting quick updates about the games from other sources. The decision was made by proper investigation from the odds provider side.

Betpanda is asking to reach the odds provider Betby to get information from them, which doesn't make much sense. If I'm not wrong, then Betby doesn't get involved in the complaints directly. You should ask the Betpanda team to reply on your complaint at Askgamblers.

I've asked them to reply. They don't reply on AG.


You are right - not all of these people have the same judgment about what they read. Some will look for evidence before they believe what they just read - but others will believe it right away. A brand's reputation can be tarnished by negative user reviews - but if the reviews are valid, then the brand should definitely be held accountable. Resolving issues should be done on a case-by-case basis - casino representatives need to be involved in the resolution, they should be proactive in responding during the resolution process.

Well, most of those who are accusing the casino are newbies; they came here with no proof, or they have proof, but it's fake because by editing the page with developer tools to edit some elements in the whole HTML, they can make proof in a screenshot after editing it that looks legit, but the fact is it's fake.
Unless the recorded it while reloading the page and have video proof of the issue.

For me, if there's no proof, it is more likely an attack by another casino or competitor to take down the casino or to steal customers. This is a pretty common attack on any business.

1. "You have no proof". Yeah, I don't have much proof, because they SUSPENDED my account:
Here is all the "EDITED" proof I have:
https://prnt.sc/UoJFpR0dFjPu
https://prnt.sc/xvguFLz1Cm5F

Along with all the other images i've sent before does that look HTML editing?
If you want a voice call, I could share my screen to you, so no "editing" is done. Or, since you have the betpanda flair, get in touch with them to answer my complaints and know more of the situation - Ticket ID: B1X07E
So hard to post a scam accusation here because people protect a multi-millionaire company instead of an individual whose been stolen.


Couldn't said better. Btw, I can still bet on other betby sportsbooks with no VPN or proxies with max limit, and I even could withdraw today with no problems. After seeing the other scam accusations from users that got the same message as me, I'm 100% sure the restriction has nothing to do with Betby.

This casino is straight up fraudulent.

Probably the other casino that you are currently using still ignored the flagged on your account given by Betsby. They can always restrict your account anytime especially if you have huge profit to cover those previous withdrawals that you made.

It’s like ticking time bomb so maybe you should avoid completely Betsby if you already marked as restricted.


No, I didn't get banned by Betby. I contacted them, they said they hardly ever blocked players and I wasn't on their list.


Can you provide proof to this statement such as screenshots? I’m surprised that Betby is even replying since they have a lot of complaints for restricting user on different sportsbook.

It’s hard to believe that they hardly blocked users while they are the one that keep flagging user since they hold the records of players from different casino.
I have being followup with this guy accusations for a while now i wanted him to provide some tangible evidence that shows indeed that betpanda have done wrong in their actions as regards to his withdrawal denials, between he hasn't done any of such and glad that you dimonstrationalso asked that obvious questions.

Sometimes majority of those accusations, are not the fault of the casino so.e time the player's may have violated one or two of the casino rules to warrant such restrictions if there is any.

1. I have not been given a reason why I have been banned. There's nothing to share to you. Betpanda needs to provide reason for why I have been banned, because they've been vague. They even don't wanna comment, as they haven't responded in AskGamblers or my emails.

2. I've made scam allegations. Provided whether they are truthful to the public eye doesn't matter rn, as Betpanda doesn't even care. They took my money and left it unresponded. If they respond, I can provide everything they want, in this same thread. Right now, I know nothing on why I have been restricted.

3. In case I could share anything to you, what info is missing that you want? I don't believe I omitted anything. You want my bet logs? Because my account is blocked Sad

4. If I violated any rule, why they don't say it out loud? Why would they lose reputation for free here and on AG (https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/betpanda-io-casino-withdrawal-denied-and-account-closed) if I am in the wrongdoing? They must be so unprofessional to not speak up if I violated their ToS, right? The other cases they ignored here in this forum, they ignored because they are right? NO. They are scammers and don't wanna comment because it will make things worse for their reputation Smiley

5. You have a BetPanda flair, they pay you to ad for them. ofc you will target my scam allegation as a fake one, because it tarnishes your job. Don't try to mislead their theft to the public eye. Instead, look up the similar cases on AG and on this forum and see who the company you are working for really is. Doesn't take 10 minutes.

edit: they read the post and gave me a response!!!!
look their reason to ban me guys Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley  Smiley Smiley
https://prnt.sc/Z11JCYiLL2t7

They are saying I am betting on fixed matches, that I know the outcome - When I am betting on LCK, LPL, CS Tier1 LANS and dota2- Tier 1 - LAN matches. Of all the fixtures I could fix, why would I fix high liquidity T1 tournaments, where people are battling for millions of USD? I am not betting on tier 7 tennis or amateur football.
Please BetPanda unblock my account so I can share the bets I made. Ah, you won't right? Smiley
I make my own bets, they are saying I am following someone. Prove it Betpanda! Come here and prove it, I'll wait.

TLDR: Placing good bets = Restricted! You >>HAVE<< to place bad bets so we take everything XD
GL betting on betpanda, if you win you will lose ur money. I believe this seals the deal.

Stay out of this shithole.

People here are well paid to ad for casinos. Do not take them seriously. I suggest you to open a scam thread here detailing everything, from signup until the final ban.
Maybe you can find contact with someone that represents BetPanda here (not likely tho, they left here and just left their Marketing people)
Or you can follow-up a sue in Costa Rica, maybe that's viable, I am not sure of your case and local jurisdictions.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your support. I'll definitely open a scam thread and expose everything so people don't lose what are theirs.
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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on 22/06/2025, 05:19:37 UTC
Saying this:
1. I have not been given a reason why I have been banned. There's nothing to share to you. Betpanda needs to provide reason for why I have been banned, because they've been vague. They even don't wanna comment, as they haven't responded in AskGamblers or my emails.

And then you come down to say this:
They are saying I am betting on fixed matches, that I know the outcome - When I am betting on LCK, LPL, CS Tier1 LANS and dota2- Tier 1 - LAN matches. Of all the fixtures I could fix, why would I fix high liquidity T1 tournaments, where people are battling for millions of USD? I am not betting on tier 7 tennis or amateur football.
Please BetPanda unblock my account so I can share the bets I made. Ah, you won't right? Smiley
I make my own bets, they are saying I am following someone. Prove it Betpanda! Come here and prove it, I'll wait.

Is what seems like a self contradiction to me don’t you think! Because I see the later to have been a reason why you’ve been restricted access to the casino.
Now, without having to go into the intricacy of the case, it’s always best not to shade informations but rather, put it out as it is. You’ve written such a wall of text but somehow, don’t put much facts to your case with them. Flag don’t just pop out of the blue, there is always a trigger from reoccurring patterns.

Can you read "edit:" or are you just trying to mislead everyone? Buy a pair of glasses
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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nova1sz
on 21/06/2025, 13:26:30 UTC
Couldn't said better. Btw, I can still bet on other betby sportsbooks with no VPN or proxies with max limit, and I even could withdraw today with no problems. After seeing the other scam accusations from users that got the same message as me, I'm 100% sure the restriction has nothing to do with Betby.

This casino is straight up fraudulent.

Probably the other casino that you are currently using still ignored the flagged on your account given by Betsby. They can always restrict your account anytime especially if you have huge profit to cover those previous withdrawals that you made.

It’s like ticking time bomb so maybe you should avoid completely Betsby if you already marked as restricted.


No, I didn't get banned by Betby. I contacted them, they said they hardly ever blocked players and I wasn't on their list.


Can you provide proof to this statement such as screenshots? I’m surprised that Betby is even replying since they have a lot of complaints for restricting user on different sportsbook.

It’s hard to believe that they hardly blocked users while they are the one that keep flagging user since they hold the records of players from different casino.
I have being followup with this guy accusations for a while now i wanted him to provide some tangible evidence that shows indeed that betpanda have done wrong in their actions as regards to his withdrawal denials, between he hasn't done any of such and glad that you dimonstrationalso asked that obvious questions.

Sometimes majority of those accusations, are not the fault of the casino so.e time the player's may have violated one or two of the casino rules to warrant such restrictions if there is any.

1. I have not been given a reason why I have been banned. There's nothing to share to you. Betpanda needs to provide reason for why I have been banned, because they've been vague. They even don't wanna comment, as they haven't responded in AskGamblers or my emails.

2. I've made scam allegations. Provided whether they are truthful to the public eye doesn't matter rn, as Betpanda doesn't even care. They took my money and left it unresponded. If they respond, I can provide everything they want, in this same thread. Right now, I know nothing on why I have been restricted.

3. In case I could share anything to you, how would you help me? Do you work for Betpanda in some instance? 
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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nova1sz
on 15/06/2025, 08:48:15 UTC
Couldn't said better. Btw, I can still bet on other betby sportsbooks with no VPN or proxies with max limit, and I even could withdraw today with no problems. After seeing the other scam accusations from users that got the same message as me, I'm 100% sure the restriction has nothing to do with Betby.
You won't face the same problem on other sportsbook right away. But sooner or later, the bet limitation will be applied on your account in the other sportsbook if the decision was really from Betby odds provider. We can assume that the decision was from Betpanda itself if you don't get limited or restricted on other Betby provider sportsbook. I hope you will give us an update about your situation in the future.

Update: Betpanda didnt answer emails, even opened Askgamblers thread and no response too [https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/betpanda-io-casino-withdrawal-denied-and-account-closed]!!

Lots of other scams thread here don't get answered too. Lame excuses to close and literally steal money from bettors.

Why they don't get flagged in their ANN thread? There are literally lots of unsolved cases here and moderation does nothing. Would prevent future scams.

Anyway, if someone is reading this, never trust these ANN posts, people get paid to ad for them. Go to multiple review sites (take care too, because gambling sites do fake reviews).

Look up casino.guru and askgamblers because in my opinion they are the best among all of them.

I don't think I should sue them or anything. Let them have it. They surely be needing it Smiley
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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nova1sz
on 09/06/2025, 21:06:38 UTC
The point is: no sportsbook SHOULD be able to confiscate a user deposit and winnings even if they are profitable in a long run. Take example card counters in casinos, they are allowed to do it and if the casino finds out they are backed off WITH their winnings.
i don't disagree with you on that, but this is the wild west of crypto casinos we are talking about, not the highly regulated brick and mortar in vegas.
that's why it's VERY VERY important to do your research before making a deposit. and i'm guessing you didn't read betpanda terms, because if you did, you would not have played there.

Yea, that was my fault, wcyd. I just didn't research about Betpanda well enough. Guess it's lesson learned.
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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nova1sz
on 08/06/2025, 17:56:01 UTC
I never got restricted by Betby. I have been limited by Betby.
That doesn't mean anything, really. In all sportsbook I've been limited
they let me withdraw without any problems.
So, the reason is crystal clear here. You are trying to bypass the limit of the odds provider by creating an account in a different sportsbook of Betby provider. It is obvious that you will face issues on Betby providers sportsbook in the future. You have been limited by the odds provider, not by the specific sportsbook. Betpanda won't refund your deposited funds. It is written in their terms, and you had agreed with the terms during registration.

14.1 Conditions for Returns
In order for the Betpanda.io Balance to be eligible for a return, please make sure that:
The Betpanda.io Balance was purchased in the last 14 days. The Betpanda.io Balance was not used in wagers of any kind. (this means after the purchase you did not do any actions involving Betpanda.io Balance on Your Account)

Unfortunately, we can't do anything for you. Some clauses of Betpanda terms are really unfair for the users. Different betting sites have different rules. Stop playing in the sportsbook with Betby odds provider.

No, you are missing the point here. I am not trying to bypass anything. Neither are the users that I linked saying Betpanda was scamming them. Betby has the reasons to limit my stake size, which indeed they've done.
They could've done since my deposit. And I am fine with that.

The point is: no sportsbook SHOULD be able to confiscate a user deposit and winnings even if they are profitable in a long run. Take example card counters in casinos, they are allowed to do it and if the casino finds out they are backed off WITH their winnings.

Betpanda is just choosing random big winnings and accusing players to be fraudulent, which is NOT true. I didn't arb, bet on delayed odds, fix games, or anything in that manner. If I would lose money with them, they wouldn't close my account. They would just keep on taking my crypto until I ran out, despite me being profitable or not.
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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on 08/06/2025, 14:12:02 UTC

I have been limited by Betby.
That doesn't mean anything, really. In all sportsbook I've been limited they let me withdraw without any problems.


And yes. They didn't even payout my initial deposit.
So, in the end, I breached something I don't even know, they don't want to know who I am, and they don't want to pay me! Cheesy

I am flagged as suspicious because I am an +EV bettor. That's the reason.

Sadly, this is the same fate for every +EV bettor on sportsbook. I’m not aware about the refund policy of Betpanda but I hope they reconsider the refund of your deposit if you don’t have any suspicious activity aside from +EV bettor.

I assume you do arbitrage betting right? As @mahdirakib pointed out about they refund policy, it’s very hard to make a case on a refund if the ToS stated that before you deposit.

No, I don't do arbitrage. Never did. Not only because I know it isn't allowed, but it is lot time consuming and low rewarding imo.

Quick follow up, I've researched many scam posts about this sportsbook & casino. Some are really recent. They are definitely shady and should be advertised as so.
Not paying a player because they won is ridiculous. Make your own research and don't make the same mistake as me.

Links:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5541685.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5541706.0
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5537696.0
4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5526543.0
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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nova1sz
on 08/06/2025, 13:40:24 UTC
Today, I have been informed that Betpanda blocked my account and my withdrawal because "my betting behaviour was flagged as suspicious by our Sportsbook provider".
Betby sportsbook provider is Betby. There are a huge number of betting sites with this provider. We see accusations against Betby providers sportsbook regularly here. Because they cover a huge number of sportsbook. If you get limited or restricted on any sportsbook with Betby, then the probability is 99% to get restricted on other sportsbook with Betby. Have you faced problems (limited or restricted) on any sportsbook before?

What about the refund on your initial deposit? Do you get it?
He isn't going to get the refund of his deposited funds. Betpanda rule is unfair in the refund policy (deposit return policy).

I never got restricted by Betby. I have been limited by Betby.
That doesn't mean anything, really. In all sportsbook I've been limited they let me withdraw without any problems.


And yes. They didn't even payout my initial deposit.
So, in the end, I breached something I don't even know, they don't want to know who I am, and they don't want to pay me! Cheesy
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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nova1sz
on 08/06/2025, 12:34:38 UTC
Today, I have been informed that Betpanda blocked my account and my withdrawal because "my betting behaviour was flagged as suspicious by our Sportsbook provider".
Now they have my 1050USD for zero reasons. They don't even tell me what I did wrong. Just generic reasons to keep my money locked.

If you don't mind, help me get in touch with someone from Betpanda, because chat agents don't answer anything.


Stay away from this shady sportsbook and casino.

I might create a scam post later if it doesn't get resolved.
You can file your support ticket and wait for their response but if the casino did have findings about your suspicious activities before doing this serious action on account suspension / even termination, I see your chance of success through an appeal is very low.

Most cases like this would belong to two types:

The casino is legit, and they took action based on evidence, so that your appeal does not have chance of success.
The casino is scam, and this means you won't succeed at the end with any attempt of making your appeal.

Your information is not enough to prove that you are naive and did not break their ToS, this means it's not enough to say they are scam.

I know my chances are very low. But staying quiet only benefits them, so I am not doing that. When you win big, scam casinos and sportsbook will make everything to not payout.
That's what they are doing. I probably lost my money, but if it makes them to lose customers after I prove I didn't do "suspicious betting" (whatever that means, idk, really) I'll gladly do so.
Of course my information isn't enough to show I didn't break their ToS, that's because:

1 - I don't know what I did wrong, how can I defend myself? Do I have to figure out?
2 - You didn't see my betslips, in which I am not betting in Tier 5 events or arbing or anything related.

Kinda crazy they didn't even want to KYC me, because if I really broke their ToS, the logical move would to KYC me before that like their Terms suggest.
But no, it's about the money, they are just scammers.
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Re: Betpanda.io | Anonymous Crypto Casino | Welcome Bonus Up to 1BTC
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nova1sz
on 08/06/2025, 06:51:23 UTC
Today, I have been informed that Betpanda blocked my account and my withdrawal because "my betting behaviour was flagged as suspicious by our Sportsbook provider".
Now they have my 1050USD for zero reasons. They don't even tell me what I did wrong. Just generic reasons to keep my money locked.

If you don't mind, help me get in touch with someone from Betpanda, because chat agents don't answer anything.


Stay away from this shady sportsbook and casino.

I might create a scam post later if it doesn't get resolved.