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why would you protect them? they steal peoples money (All together they keep 7700 euro from my account in their pockets.) , raise the commission once you win, take positions on bets and tell nobody? thats not right... thats not more then a poorly regulated shady buissness!
this post makes me wonder even more about you sir. it is common knowledge for over 6 months that this is standard practice the raise in commissions at ORBITX from every agent AC88, sportsmarket, betibc, betkeen, odsy88 ect ect some start at 3% many start you at 8% land then move up to 15% plus I have seen. At that point some punters try to trick and open a new account so they can get the 3% again since 15% is not beatable. they get caught as the Orbitx platform has securtity to find muti accounts and then the winning are all void. Most places have sent the deposits back and voided winnings per the terms others may just keep the whole balance. Odsy88 has history of sending the deposit back at least after a kyc in every case I have seen. Others maybe not so... to me Odsy88 is very good esp since they pay faster then any other agent legitimate and verified accounts
All the Agents that offer Orbitx do this... All nice winners get increased commissions and some agents like AC88 even start you off at 8% and then go up much higher. We all know that agent accounts take a stake but to say Odsy88 is any different then say AC88 or any other agent is just not true. Odsy88 has gotten many new people due to AC88 increasing the commisions for everyone to 8%. They start @ 3% and what happens many times is punters who get a increase to 8-15% try to open a new account to gain the 3% as we all know 15% is near impossible to beat...You have a valid beef about the commissions going up but but like I said thats with all agent Orbitx accounts as It happened to me that is why i open (1) account Orbitx via Odsy88 as my other agent wanted 8%. Odsy88 they pay very fast and CS is available 24/7 if they raise commission just have to find another out but they a excellnet agent for most losing punters
File a complaint with the the forum and ask they contact the Agent not Orbitx. Also if a Mod here can contact Odsy88 and add to this post. Orbitx has a habit of increasing commissions if they are hit good and since they are one of the few betfair labels once a punter gets the increase some violate rules and open a new account to get the lower commissions thus breaching the rules. Never ever open multi exchange accounts with the same agent....Find another agent. If you get caught at betfair doing this they confiscate the entire balance incudung deposits in most cases. Odsy88 sending you the deposit back shows they are not out to steal but to follow rules.
Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion
"A" and "B" books are recommended.
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)
betcoin.ag A (2013)
"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)
mBet.io B- (2017) Horse racing.
"C" rated books
betbtc.co C (2014)
fortunejack.com C (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com C- (2011)
jetwin.ps C- (2013)
playbetr.com C- (2019)
"D" rated books
bitgame.online D+ (2017)
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)
1xbit.com D (2016)
dbet.io D- (2019)
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)
betcoin.ag A (2013)
"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)
mBet.io B- (2017) Horse racing.
"C" rated books
betbtc.co C (2014)
fortunejack.com C (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com C- (2011)
jetwin.ps C- (2013)
playbetr.com C- (2019)
"D" rated books
bitgame.online D+ (2017)
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)
1xbit.com D (2016)
dbet.io D- (2019)
Nitrogen and betcoin are both excellent...i would also add Fairlay as they have the best odds plus fast fast payout...fairlay is also interesting because they have a user danhan11 who has created an app which allows for parlays..it is currently being tested w positive results so far..
For agents accounts i had been using AC88 and still do they are excellent but a new one odyssey88 i have been using too and have experienced greatness from them...very fast btc withdrawals and excellent customer service too w similar bookand exchangesas ac88..they do random kyc if any suspicion occurs like multiple accounts like AC88 or any book do so make sure u give verifiable info...
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
The user was asked to send in proof that his ID is authentic. He couldn't fulfil our request stating that he has no camera ( or webcam or smartphone). We won't pay out the money unless ordered by court, arbitrator or police. This is the last time we respond to this case. The user let the deadline we set pass and abused our support serveral times.
We follow AML laws and therefor cannot pay out funds to anonymous money launderers and criminals .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2383672.msg31000587#msg31000587
As I just heard of fairlay and seeing they have these incidents happening on their site too
well then nitrogensports is looking more and more appealing for those who wish not to have their funds locked into an account that is rendered useless to them unless they submit their id so to have their winnings withheld until they do.
Sounds alot like holding your balance for ransom before being released if you ask me.
"shady" you mean the BETG was shady....if you are attempting to use Fairlay BTC site as a 'mixer" and not wager then go use another site and take your chances.."customers" use wagering sites to wager not attempt illicit criminal activities...you must be an ignorant shill
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
i had high hopes with fairlay after using their service but i am just blown away by their response. Nothing they can do? when it was a misgrade on their end 2 years ago and they have allowed me to deposit several times after this and not brought it up? Not 1 email, not 1 thing in my statement history, nothing. But whatever.
here is my statement history FYI. How am i supposed to know my account was negative? Before I made my first deposit recently, my account statement said 0.04 balance and that was my balance when i Logged in.
nothing about a misgrade i can tell. Oh well. I am done with it. They will lose my business.
02/23/2018 17:14 mBTC 6.77 252.15 Settlement without commission (Strasbourg vs. Montpellier HSC)
02/23/2018 17:04 mBTC 58.79 245.37 Settlement without commission (Strasbourg vs. Montpellier HSC)
02/23/2018 16:54 mBTC 85.65 186.57 Settlement without commission (Strasbourg vs. Montpellier)
02/23/2018 16:38 mBTC 12.00 100.92 Settlement without commission (12.10 Fairview)
02/23/2018 14:22 mBTC -456.00 88.92 Cashout
02/23/2018 14:16 mBTC 83.79 544.92 Settlement without commission (Al Wehdat vs. Al Ramtha)
02/23/2018 14:16 mBTC 43.79 461.13 Settlement without commission (Al Wehdat vs. Al Ramtha)
02/23/2018 12:41 mBTC -10.00 417.34 Settlement without commission (17:10 Warwick)
02/23/2018 12:30 mBTC 42.69 427.34 Settlement without commission (CSKA Sofia vs. Cherno More)
02/23/2018 12:05 mBTC 2.00 384.64 Settlement without commission (16:40 Warwick)
02/23/2018 11:47 mBTC -15.00 382.64 Settlement without commission (16:25 Lingfield)
02/23/2018 11:11 mBTC -15.00 397.64 Settlement without commission (15:50 Lingfield)
02/23/2018 11:11 mBTC -16.25 412.64 Settlement without commission (15:40 Exeter)
02/23/2018 10:54 mBTC 51.96 428.90 Settlement without commission (15:20 Lingfield)
02/23/2018 10:39 mBTC -30.24 376.93 Settlement without commission (That Ras vs. Al Faisaly Amman)
02/23/2018 10:39 mBTC 23.14 407.18 Settlement without commission (That Ras vs. Al Faisaly Amman)
02/23/2018 10:29 mBTC 28.40 384.03 Settlement without commission (That Ras vs. Al Faisaly Amman)
02/23/2018 09:57 mBTC 37.92 355.62 Settlement without commission (14:35 Exeter)
02/23/2018 08:49 mBTC 90.52 317.70 Settlement without commission (Sagan Tosu vs. Vissel Kobe)
02/23/2018 07:51 mBTC 17.86 227.18 Settlement without commission (Sagan Tosu vs. Vissel Kobe)
02/23/2018 06:57 mBTC 9.85 209.31 Settlement without commission (11.35 Fairview)
02/23/2018 06:13 mBTC 199.45 199.45 DEPOSIT
02/19/2018 12:16 mBTC -37.49 0.00 Settlement without commission (16:40 Carlisle)
02/19/2018 12:16 mBTC -13.00 37.49 Settlement without commission (16:55 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 12:09 mBTC -119.02 50.49 Settlement without commission (Shillong Lajong FC vs. Aizawl)
02/19/2018 11:58 mBTC -106.04 169.52 Settlement without commission (16:25 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 11:23 mBTC 7.98 275.56 Settlement without commission (15:50 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 10:48 mBTC 28.35 267.57 Settlement without commission (15:15 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 10:12 mBTC 5.53 239.21 Settlement without commission (14:45 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 09:37 mBTC 33.71 233.67 Settlement without commission (14:15 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 01:42 mBTC 199.90 199.95 DEPOSIT
12/17/2016 18:19 mBTC 40.00 0.04 Other
12/17/2016 18:16 mBTC -40.03 -39.95 Settlement without commission
12/17/2016 18:09 mBTC 39.30 0.08 Other
12/17/2016 18:04 mBTC -39.21 -39.21 Unsettlement
12/17/2016 00:06 mBTC -15.33 0.00 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 22:03 mBTC 6.18 15.33 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 21:34 mBTC -149.99 9.15 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 20:39 mBTC -150.00 159.15 Cashout
12/16/2016 19:52 mBTC 124.65 309.15 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 17:33 mBTC 88.27 184.49 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 13:50 mBTC 16.96 96.22 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 06:00 mBTC 39.21 79.25 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 01:50 mBTC 40.04 40.04 Other
here is my statement history FYI. How am i supposed to know my account was negative? Before I made my first deposit recently, my account statement said 0.04 balance and that was my balance when i Logged in.
nothing about a misgrade i can tell. Oh well. I am done with it. They will lose my business.
02/23/2018 17:14 mBTC 6.77 252.15 Settlement without commission (Strasbourg vs. Montpellier HSC)
02/23/2018 17:04 mBTC 58.79 245.37 Settlement without commission (Strasbourg vs. Montpellier HSC)
02/23/2018 16:54 mBTC 85.65 186.57 Settlement without commission (Strasbourg vs. Montpellier)
02/23/2018 16:38 mBTC 12.00 100.92 Settlement without commission (12.10 Fairview)
02/23/2018 14:22 mBTC -456.00 88.92 Cashout
02/23/2018 14:16 mBTC 83.79 544.92 Settlement without commission (Al Wehdat vs. Al Ramtha)
02/23/2018 14:16 mBTC 43.79 461.13 Settlement without commission (Al Wehdat vs. Al Ramtha)
02/23/2018 12:41 mBTC -10.00 417.34 Settlement without commission (17:10 Warwick)
02/23/2018 12:30 mBTC 42.69 427.34 Settlement without commission (CSKA Sofia vs. Cherno More)
02/23/2018 12:05 mBTC 2.00 384.64 Settlement without commission (16:40 Warwick)
02/23/2018 11:47 mBTC -15.00 382.64 Settlement without commission (16:25 Lingfield)
02/23/2018 11:11 mBTC -15.00 397.64 Settlement without commission (15:50 Lingfield)
02/23/2018 11:11 mBTC -16.25 412.64 Settlement without commission (15:40 Exeter)
02/23/2018 10:54 mBTC 51.96 428.90 Settlement without commission (15:20 Lingfield)
02/23/2018 10:39 mBTC -30.24 376.93 Settlement without commission (That Ras vs. Al Faisaly Amman)
02/23/2018 10:39 mBTC 23.14 407.18 Settlement without commission (That Ras vs. Al Faisaly Amman)
02/23/2018 10:29 mBTC 28.40 384.03 Settlement without commission (That Ras vs. Al Faisaly Amman)
02/23/2018 09:57 mBTC 37.92 355.62 Settlement without commission (14:35 Exeter)
02/23/2018 08:49 mBTC 90.52 317.70 Settlement without commission (Sagan Tosu vs. Vissel Kobe)
02/23/2018 07:51 mBTC 17.86 227.18 Settlement without commission (Sagan Tosu vs. Vissel Kobe)
02/23/2018 06:57 mBTC 9.85 209.31 Settlement without commission (11.35 Fairview)
02/23/2018 06:13 mBTC 199.45 199.45 DEPOSIT
02/19/2018 12:16 mBTC -37.49 0.00 Settlement without commission (16:40 Carlisle)
02/19/2018 12:16 mBTC -13.00 37.49 Settlement without commission (16:55 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 12:09 mBTC -119.02 50.49 Settlement without commission (Shillong Lajong FC vs. Aizawl)
02/19/2018 11:58 mBTC -106.04 169.52 Settlement without commission (16:25 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 11:23 mBTC 7.98 275.56 Settlement without commission (15:50 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 10:48 mBTC 28.35 267.57 Settlement without commission (15:15 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 10:12 mBTC 5.53 239.21 Settlement without commission (14:45 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 09:37 mBTC 33.71 233.67 Settlement without commission (14:15 Lingfield)
02/19/2018 01:42 mBTC 199.90 199.95 DEPOSIT
12/17/2016 18:19 mBTC 40.00 0.04 Other
12/17/2016 18:16 mBTC -40.03 -39.95 Settlement without commission
12/17/2016 18:09 mBTC 39.30 0.08 Other
12/17/2016 18:04 mBTC -39.21 -39.21 Unsettlement
12/17/2016 00:06 mBTC -15.33 0.00 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 22:03 mBTC 6.18 15.33 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 21:34 mBTC -149.99 9.15 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 20:39 mBTC -150.00 159.15 Cashout
12/16/2016 19:52 mBTC 124.65 309.15 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 17:33 mBTC 88.27 184.49 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 13:50 mBTC 16.96 96.22 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 06:00 mBTC 39.21 79.25 Settlement without commission
12/16/2016 01:50 mBTC 40.04 40.04 Other
Miss grades happen esp in horse racing it has happened to me both ways in past also on other sites...the amount you owed is correct...fairlay is very fair here and in line of what any other exchange would do...Stop your whining
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Its 1 mBTC for priority...Not bad as others like Nitro charge same but here the lines are better esp since no commissions...play around a bit its very nice prices here
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Is it possible to withdraw to a Bech32 Bitcoin address from Fairlay?
I tried to add one as a cashout address and it worked fine, but I´m
not sure if the withdrawal would actually work.
I tried to add one as a cashout address and it worked fine, but I´m
not sure if the withdrawal would actually work.
only priority withdrawals have support for bech32
I Was also interested in that, how does your withdrawl get a "priority status"? Would be nice to know (unless I've completely missed it on the website).
Keep up the great work through the tough times! I like it
.Check Priority Cash out Box just above the request cash out processing button in Cash Out Page
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Could you tell your market makers that they should consider seeding the horse betting markets
with more liquidity?
Right now I want to place a bet on a horse race that starts in roughly 25 minutes.
It´s not an exotic event, but rather the opening race of the racing day at
Ascot (one of the more prominent racing stops).
On the favorite (Alaadeel) I can place only a paltry 6 mBTC. This is not, because someone
took away the available liquidity (the market has no bets as of now), but rather
because the market maker didn´t offer more than 6 mBTC.
I can understand when the market maker doesn´t want to expose himself on a longshot,
but I´m talking about the favorite here.
with more liquidity?
Right now I want to place a bet on a horse race that starts in roughly 25 minutes.
It´s not an exotic event, but rather the opening race of the racing day at
Ascot (one of the more prominent racing stops).
On the favorite (Alaadeel) I can place only a paltry 6 mBTC. This is not, because someone
took away the available liquidity (the market has no bets as of now), but rather
because the market maker didn´t offer more than 6 mBTC.
I can understand when the market maker doesn´t want to expose himself on a longshot,
but I´m talking about the favorite here.
We have several market makers in the horse racing section. If you provide a link to the market we can notify the market maker.
The UK racing seems to have ok liquidity BUT the USA tracks that have just started popping up if u can inform that market maker to be consist and increase liquidity and post the races earlier as they seem to pop up randomly and late...ty vm
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Yes But the line has changed its -118.0 + 5 NC State
https://old.fairlay.com/market/louisville-nc-state-1/
So the fact that I click "+171 bet against" and in the input box I get "-171" you'd call that a bug? Or is that logical somehow?
https://fairlay.com/market/louisville-nc-state-1/
Its -118....dont go by number you see click on it thats the correct line
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Yes But the line has changed its -118.0 + 5 NC State
https://old.fairlay.com/market/louisville-nc-state-1/
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Asking for ID and utility BILL? Whats the point really? You are working underground, no license at all. To demend id and utlility bill is just that you want to keep the money.
@fairlay, do you start a regular KYC?! Should I be worried and looking for another bookie?
The point of bitcoin gambling is to avoid bulls*ts like KYC and documents.
Ive done thousands of matched wagers and hundreds of withdrawals...never a issue..just like any regular or BTC book if you violate rules or have fraudulent activity you are subject to KYC or other request..just because its btc doesnt mean its the Wild West..other btc books including Nitrogen do the same to protect from fraud....as long as you are not violating rules or using as a mixer you are fine
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
We won't pay out the money unless ordered by court or police.
Ha, that's funny. Reputable casinos have exact opposite policy
But as you mentioned court order, I took a look at your site:
Quote
This agreement is made and entered into by and between you and Fairlay LLC, incorporated in the Republic of Costa Rica under ID number 3-101-736435 of the National Registery
So I was planning on requesting the full company / personnel details to give betg a legal avenue to make his claim, but there are no such records of a company existing. I guess it's no surprise as there are no LLC's in Costa Rica. Just S.A. and S.R.L.'s.
https://i.imgur.com/ZSoVedQ.png
There appears to be no problem with their site, as it is working for every other legitimately incorporated company that I have tried.
I have monitor this gentlemans post for a while...he is definitely a fraudster as anyone legit would of provided docs requested immediately..also his deposit and withdrawal pattern does not match a legitimate player..
And come on he does not have a camera to comply with Fairlay picture/video request that is truly laughable ...He is the only person I have ever heard that has had an issue with withdrawals...I can attest as many others too that fairlay process withdrawls instant for me Ive done 100s never a issue...Fairlay is A+
I use this as tech support and CS I ask please stop posting this stuff as it is just wasting space...
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
@betg We told you several times that you need to reveal your identity before we can deal with your request. This is not the place to handle your case so best you stick with our support.
Hello, after few month fight to get my withdrawal without verify I have finally decided to send documents which they have asked for (ID+utility bill) and this was MISTAKE!After they got it I got reply: "thank you. Please send us a very short video where you hold your ID document and a hand-written note that says "For verification of Fairlay account *username here*". Please send us this video within the next 24 hours, so we will be able to process your withdrawal.
Best,
Team Fairlay"
Now I am really p***d !! they are complicating it as much as they can!! the next step propably will be flight to the company and make cinema movie with them. !! WARNING THIS SITE DO NOT PAY !!
Please someone tell me which licensor should I contact (asked them also but don't know if I will get reply) because their site is now so unreadable... Thank you in advance.
they do pay Ive had 100's of instant withdrawls never a issue...send them the video..seems pretty much no brainier if you are legit...Many books do a KYC verification and it is for your protection...Ive had to send a photo holding ID w note to even just buy BTC with a few online merchants...no biggie if you are legit...seems very fair of Fairlay as some books would not give you this chance if they thought some fraudulent activity was taken place..
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Hi fairlay, Question how long will the https://old.fairlay.com/ be available for? and are we safe using that for now? Will it work just like it has in past? ty
Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds
Hi fairlay, congrats!
one thing i liked on old site under profile there was a public profile link and it showed how much Mbtc was wagered lifetime along with # of matched bets and total lifetime Mbtc profit...I do not see that under the profile link on new site...it would be excellent if you could add that back or guide me to where it located if it is on new site ty
one thing i liked on old site under profile there was a public profile link and it showed how much Mbtc was wagered lifetime along with # of matched bets and total lifetime Mbtc profit...I do not see that under the profile link on new site...it would be excellent if you could add that back or guide me to where it located if it is on new site ty
I've found NitrogenSports to be the best option for sports betting at the moment and haven't had any issues using them.
I have been looking for an alternative to DirectBet as well. Has anyone found anything new? I am open to starting an account with Nitrogensports, but my main hesitation is to have to hold BTC there.
I was looking for an alternative where you can bet individual events and get paid out (to your own wallet on individual bets). I am hesitant to send like 1BTC and be leaving over $4,000 on the site...and then have to process individual withdrawals every time I want to make a withdraw. Has anyone found anything?
I liked direct bet mainly for horse racing...nitrogen i have used for years and has better odds then directbet and payout normally within half hour..Direcbet IMO closed due to the increase in miners fees as with there structure of sending payouts instantly after results is just not sustainable due to fees...they should of just changed to wallet based holding which they could of done...I have found FAIRLAY as the best exchange wagering site BTC and they pay out INSTANT every time plus have best odds...give them a try