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Re: Are you tempted to sell?
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@nn@_pen9
on 10/09/2025, 06:59:28 UTC

To the average investors, this can be very troubling as many will be considering to sell to avoid further depletion of their asset. But is this the right thing to do? Do you plan to sell now to avoid further loss?

Many people in some of the groups I know are thinking about converting to USDT to convert back to BTC after the rainfall stops but I don't thing this is a wise decision. Personally I have resolved to continue buying this time. What do you think?
Honestly it's been a challenging one for every investors sometimes it seems one should just go ahead and sell but the major fear is to sell in loss. Yeah this period there have been a lot of panic sellers due to the fluctuations in the price that's not favourable to the market. Selling now could results to a total damage but one can't predict the outcome so it's best to buy and hodl.
When the market is down or volatile, it is generally better to hold an investment than to sell in a panic because selling at a low price will result in a loss. Hold the position and give the opportunity to recover the value of your investment.  especially if the fundamental assets are still strong, and avoid emotional decisions that can harm the long-term plans that you have planned when you started investing. Discipline and patience in investing are very important to achieve the desired financial goals.
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Re: Reason to return to gambling after quitting
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@nn@_pen9
on 10/09/2025, 05:57:20 UTC
I saw a post about someone returning to gambling after quitting for some time, maybe a year or more. But my concern is not more on the return to gambling, rather it is on the very question I am about to ask that requires your opinions if really we want to solve the problem of gambling and addiction into it

What could be the reason for his return and what can be done to manage such situation?
Yes, we cannot equate everything between us and other individuals, this comes back to each individual. If I were in the position you mentioned above I certainly wouldn't do it again that each individual has different experiences, motivations, and ways of dealing with addiction. The pain and loss a person experiences can be a strong factor in not returning to gambling, but not everyone feels the same way or is able to overcome temptation in the same way. I will likely always remember the negative impacts of gambling that I experienced. Being aware of the consequences will provide a strong foundation for preventing myself from returning to the habit.
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Re: Judi Membunuhmu
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@nn@_pen9
on 09/09/2025, 13:37:50 UTC
Buat kawan-kawan seperjuangan semua, jangan sampai terperosok ke dalam judi. Saya salah satu bukti bahwa judi benar-benar menghancurkan hidup.
Dulu aset digital saya lumayan banyak, dari btc , xrp , doge , dan waves. Sekarang sudah habis tak tersisa, bahkan tanah 900 M2 dan kendaraan ikut terjual.
Judi itu bisa membuat orang jadi malas dan tidak produktif, di kepala isinya hanya angan-angan semu.
Bagi kalian yang masih suka judi, tolong segera berhenti sebelum makin parah dan menyesal di kemudian hari.

Kesalahan yang terletak pada dirimu sendiri itu adalah tidak mampu mengontrol emosi mu sendiri pada saat sudah kalah dari perjudian, padahal sebagian orang yang masih terus berjudi hingga saat ini masih tidak mengalami kesulitan apapun didalam hidupnya dan bahkan mereka masih terlihat baik-baik saja hingga saat ini. Jadi jangan samakan semua orang berjudi itu dengan apa yang telah anda alami meskipun disatu sisi saran yang anda katakan itu memang tidaklah buruk, tetapi bagi mereka yang suka mencari hiburan lewat perjudian saya rasa mereka akan tetap baik-baik saja karena mereka tidak menaruh harapan yang begitu tinggi lewat perjudian itu.

Apalagi kalau sudah menaruh angan-angan yang kurang logis dimana hal itu sangat tidak dianjurkan karena berjudi dengan takaran uang yang mampu kita hilangkan adalah hal yang sangat bijak sehingga tidak ada rasa candu yang berlebihan pada diri kita sendiri. Jadi dalam hal berjudi itu juga perlu ada kontrol yang baik karena setiap pekerjaan itu tidak akan berakhir baik apabila dilakukan dengan cara memaksakan diri kita sendiri.
Memang salah satu kesalahan utama terbesar
dalam perjudian mengharapkan menaruh harapan terlalu tinggi atau bergantung pada perjudian dan sulitnya mengontrol diri mereka atau tidak bisa menerima kekalahan. Intinya, perjudian sebaiknya dilakukan dengan kesadaran penuh akan risikonya, dan kemampuan mengendalikan emosi merupakan kunci utama agar tidak terjerumus ke dalam masalah yang lebih serius. Memaksakan diri untuk terus berjudi atau mengejar kerugian justru akan memperburuk keadaan. Oleh karena itu, penting untuk mengenali batasan diri dan berhenti saat sudah mencapai batas tersebut.
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Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2025/2026
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@nn@_pen9
on 09/09/2025, 10:00:54 UTC
Which team do you think will win the match between Arsenal vs Nottm Forest? I am thinking of betting on Arsenal in this match. I don't know how well Arsenal will perform. If the players of Nottm Forest and Arsenal perform equally, then this match will be a draw and if there is a draw, the points of the two teams will have to be divided equally.

Predicting the Arsenal vs. Nottingham Forest match this season isn't difficult, in my opinion. I see Arsenal as significantly better than each other this season. So, Arsenal certainly has a strong chance of winning this match. I think I'll bet on Arsenal winning this match.

Last season, we saw Nottingham Forest play really well, and their last meeting ended in a 0-0 draw. However, this time, I think Arsenal will win, and it won't be too difficult to beat Nottingham Forest. I think Arsenal, a strong team, definitely needs to win, as they failed in their previous match against Liverpool. If they want to win trophies, Arsenal will need to consistently win from now on. Well, we'll see what happens in this match.
Yes, in general, in terms of quality, Arsenal is far superior to its opponents. Of course Arsenal will get full points, they are playing at their home ground. Playing at home at the Emirates Stadium offers Arsenal significant advantages, both in terms of fan support and playing comfort. This often boosts team performance and motivates players to achieve their best.

Furthermore, Arsenal's superior squad quality, the coach's well-thought-out tactics, and consistent performances throughout the season further strengthen their chances of securing full points. With this combination, Arsenal are highly likely to control the game and secure victory.
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Re: Staking more than you receive or earn
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@nn@_pen9
on 09/09/2025, 09:07:29 UTC
I got really worried over the habit of some friends who are into betting or gambling and how they often stake into a game in a week more than what they earn even in a month and most time are not able to get it back in a couple of plays. So it got me really worried and concerned

What would be your advice for such if they were to be your friends as a caring friend who want them to not get financially drained in the process?
Why risk all your money on one game? There aren't any other games in the casino, I think this is very stupid? Even though I am still a beginner in gambling, if we lose in one game, of course I will not continue in that game again. I will move to another game according to my knowledge and skills, I think poker and blackjack can be the solution to find the profit you want. For me, if a friend is addicted, as you described above, there's really no other way than to tell them. The point is that. Whether they listen or not is none of my business.
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Re: Al little experiment, what is better - hodling or trading ?
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@nn@_pen9
on 08/09/2025, 16:18:17 UTC
Between holding and trading, I prefer holding, but you have to keep in mind whether you are going to trade short term or long term, if you are interested in trading long term then holding is better for you. Since I know about the risk of trading and there is a fear of losing money, I will not trade but hold. If I hold, it will be good for me in the future. I know that to trade I have to analyze and have knowledge about it, many times it is seen that despite having knowledge I can lose money. So I will say that I will invest for long term and when the market is good I will get good profit, I think it will be very good for me, so I will hold.
These two methods have quite distinct differences. While both carry risks, most people prefer holding over trading. Holding is a suitable strategy for investors who want to reduce the stress and risk associated with short-term market fluctuations. By holding assets long-term, your investment potential will slowly but surely increase significantly over time.

Trading requires in-depth knowledge, precise analysis, and mental preparedness to face the risk of losing your money. Not everyone is comfortable or has the time for this, and many of us give up trading due to the significant risks involved. Therefore, choosing to hold is a wise decision. If you consistently and patiently hold your investments over the long term, especially those with strong fundamentals, you're likely to achieve satisfactory returns in the future.
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Re: Apakah Melakukan Penambangan Bitcoin bermasalah di Indonesia ?
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@nn@_pen9
on 08/09/2025, 08:57:27 UTC
Selama regulasinya dipenuhi dan tidak  ada menggunakan listrik curian, maka itu tidak ada masalah sama sekali untuk menambang bitcoin di indonesia. karena kasus yg terjadi belakang ini kan bersinggungan dengan operasional tambang ilegal yg menggunakan arus listrik curian dan beroperasi tanpa paham terhadap regulasi yg ada di indonesia, jadi itu wajar jika pihak polisi melakukan penggrebekan dan menyita alat-alat penambangan bitcoin karena sudah termasuk ke menyalahi aturan, kalau dari awal mereka paham regulasi dan menggunakan listrik legal, harusnya itu tidak menjadi masalah besar.
Niatnya mau ngirit pengeluaran eh malah masuk bui di penjara, gimana caranya seseorang mencuri listrik tidak membawa masalah untuk dirinya, apalagi untuk menambang bitcoin? Masa ia meraka tidak mengerti aturan aturan besar atau kecil di negri ini. Saya rasa memang itu ada unsur kesengajaan dari mereka untuk nyolong listrik. Ya mending lurus-lurus aja dah lebih baik terdaftar di pemerintah daripada nyolong gitu.

Memang untuk mendapatkan izin atau regulasi yang sah dari pemerintah ini memang tidak mudah, banyak aturan aturan yang wajib kita taati sebagai pelaku usaha skala kecil ataupun besar. Penambang atau selaku usaha harus mematuhi aturan yang ditetapkan oleh Bappebti, Pln, Pajak dan lain sebagainya agar tidak menyalahi ketentuan yang berlaku
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Re: If you were a sports journalist...
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@nn@_pen9
on 08/09/2025, 07:12:56 UTC
The sports industry does not only consist of athletes and managers. There are also the reporters or journalists. They are the ones who go to watch live sports and report trackside or from the studio. They follow the season and the athletes. They are the ones who build a narrative and share it to the public. It got me thinking whether they do sports betting or not and uses whatever inside information they have. Or do they spread something just to bet something different? If you were a sports journalist, would you enjoy betting on the sports you report on?
If I were a sports journalist, I would certainly be extremely careful not to bet on the sports I report on. I would maintain professionalism and integrity to maintain public trust and avoid any doubt about my reporting. Although sports journalists have access to valuable information, using that information to bet or manipulate betting markets is unethical and risks damaging their reputations and careers. Although some of them have an interest in betting as entertainment, they must separate work and personal activities to avoid conflicts of interest.
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Re: Team's Failure, who is Responsible?
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@nn@_pen9
on 08/09/2025, 04:32:06 UTC
Team's Failure, who is Responsible?

This is the question we should always ask ourselves in gambling whenever we are are playing bets, then discovered that the team we supported in sport bets for instance does not perform as we expected in their match.

Who do we often often blame to be responsible for the failure to deliver, is it the coach or the players, because the two plays the most important roles towards the performance of a team in winning or loosing a match play, so let's discuss about who's responsible and should receive the blame.
Why should you blame the team or coach? Weren't you the one who started gambling?You also have to know and do it consciously, right?There are consequences you must bear if the outcome doesn't go as you expected, without blaming anyone

In fact, this is interconnected or interconnected as a whole. There is no specific or single answer as to who is to blame for the team's failure. Coaches are responsible for planning and strategy, while players are responsible for execution on the field. Failure is often the result of a combination of both, plus other external factors.

In gambling, especially sports betting, it is important to understand that the outcome of a match is influenced by many complex and interrelated factors so as not to be too quick to blame only one party when the team you support does not perform as expected.
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Re: Berani mengambil resiko apakah salah satu tindakan menuju sukses
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@nn@_pen9
on 07/09/2025, 16:04:58 UTC
Apapun yang kita lakukan untuk bisa mendapatkan hasil yang besar pastinya memiliki resiko yang besar juga dan itu sepadan dengan hasil yang kita peroleh namun sebelum melakukannya kita perlu mempelajari terlebih dahulu dengan resiko yang akan kita tanggung misalnya jika anda mendirikan bisnis dan anda mengalami kerugian di awal apakah anda bisa menutupinya dengan uang lain agar bisnis anda bisa berlanjut hal ini sama seperti kita berinvestasi pada BTC kita harus menggunakan uang dingin untuk menikmati hasilnya jangka panjang kalau anda mengalami kerugian anda tetap bisa hidup dengan uang sehari hari anda yang terpenting anda berinvestasi pada spot dan bukan future yang kemungkinan besar bisa kehilangan aset, resiko adalah bagian dari proses menuju sukses yang penting kita harus tau cara mengelola resiko dengan baik.
Ya jika kita ingin maju atau ingin berubah baik itu dari segi finansial tentunya semua penuh tantangan atau resiko yang kita hadapi. Memang bisnis dan investasi secara umum mempunyai resiko hampir menyerupai tetapi pada kenyataan nya agak sedikit berbeda dalam pengelolaannya. Risiko bisnis seringkali bersifat langsung dan aktif, karena anda harus membuat keputusan sehari-hari yang memengaruhi kelangsungan usaha anda. Risiko bisnis biasanya lebih kompleks dan melibatkan banyak aspek operasional seperti pemasaran, produksi, atau gaji karyawan anda.

Berbeda hal dengan investasi, dalam berinvestasi memang di sarankan menggunakan uang dingin atau uang yang tidak di pergunakan untuk kebutuhan sehari-hari anda. Risiko investasi biasanya bersifat pasif dan lebih berkaitan dengan fluktuasi pasar, nilai aset ataupun lainnya. Dan anda cukup menempatkan dana dan menunggu hasilnya, meskipun ada juga investasi yang memerlukan pengelolaan aktif. Kerugian investasi bisa berupa penurunan nilai aset atau bukan kehilangan keseluruhan modal anda.
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Re: what are the best ways to save cost?
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@nn@_pen9
on 07/09/2025, 13:33:27 UTC
It's no longer news or new thing how inflation has ravaged the globe, especially that of Africans and things are getting more expensive every day by day. Usually, when things are getting tougher there should be ways of preventing, reducing or economizing things to suit the current economical situation. Most times things gets unusual high in the market, and what you would buy today in the market or at the supermarket will doubled and like, I will be how? Just what I got last few days has doubled? Again, money doesn't have any value what you think could sustain you for a week is no longer taking you to 4 days. So, I want to ask over here to know the ways or technique you uses at home to reduce and save cost.
The simplest way to save cost is to cut down out expenses. Inflation has become the order of the day due to the bad economy and if you keep on spending without having a budget then you might either end up being broke and in debt. If you are not financially stable go for your needs and not your wants,  a lot of people buy things that they don't need and they don't realize that in the long run this actually affects them
Indeed, the way to survive in this life is by saving money on things that are not really necessary. By reducing or eliminating purchases of consumer goods according to your wishes, you can allocate more funds for other important needs.

Besides saving on expenses, you should strive to find additional income, which is crucial for financial stability and not relying solely on a single source. By striving to find additional income, you can strengthen your financial standing and be better prepared for various needs or emergencies.

Additional income not only helps cover daily expenses but also allows you to save more, invest, and build an emergency fund, which is crucial for maintaining financial stability. The combination of wise spending management and increased income will provide a stronger and more flexible financial foundation to handle various situations.
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Re: Tell me how this is not laziness
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@nn@_pen9
on 07/09/2025, 10:01:32 UTC
So laziness do contribute to irresponsible gambling.

Or you think I am wrong? It's very hard to make money in the real world this days, too many people are jobless because of economy or lack of business slots available and this has a negative impact on people.

Many addicted gamblers I know are not ready to go the normal hard route to make money, they are isolated and finding ways to make the money easily then gambling became the only option to them.

I am saying all these people because i did helped two people on my tuff or so I thought, I found them web3 jobs online and since they love isolating themselves I should be easy, I waited patiently thinking that finally they will escape the tense of gambling and losing money and focus on having a life but they started complaining that they can't wait long to make money.

It's like they won't want to work and yet gambling isn't helping either, I guess this effect happened because they have tasted how it feel like to win some money through gambling so they shut every other doors.
That is the mistake of every gambler that they do not make valuable lessons from every loss they experienced before, they keep repeating it again when they have money back. Yes, in my opinion, there is only one cause, namely they are reluctant or lazy to go through the process of hard work or consistent effort, in this case they really need the support of those closest to them to break the detrimental cycle of gambling before the impact gets worse.
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Re: Is Bitcoin Solving inequality?
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@nn@_pen9
on 07/09/2025, 07:41:09 UTC
I really had this question in my mind and wanted to ask was that one of the core principle and aim of Bitcoin is providing equal services and treat people equally without discrimination. But If we look at it from the perspective of "Power" it is creating a new generation of people who hold power I.e the early adaptors of Bitcoin (whales) who hold significant economic influence because they accumulated Bitcoin was undervalued.

So is it really solving the problem of inequality or Creating a new generation of people who hold power and shifting the inequality into a new form?( New Elites?)
Would love to hear your thoughts.
While Bitcoin represents a form of resistance to the traditional financial system and aims to provide equal services, in reality, power is also shifting into the hands of these active and tech savvy individuals. This could be a transformation of power from traditional institutions to individuals, which is one of the core goals of blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies.

The inequality or inequity lies in those who have great wealth, this benefits them in terms of buying bitcoins in large quantities and they continue to accumulate them. Their large Bitcoin holdings allow them to significantly influence the market price, strengthening their position in the ecosystem. This creates a kind of ownership inequality similar to the inequality in the traditional financial system.
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Re: Think more about your financial status than your potential win
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@nn@_pen9
on 07/09/2025, 04:45:59 UTC
I will always say it that once you have something huge tangible beyond your wager then just cash it out. The cashing out feature is two sided though but the casino will always payout anyways just that they benefit more if the game later comes in for you. Nevertheless , if you hit a huge win with the cash-out  open, don’t think twice just do it  Cheesy..part of the win can be used to win multiple bets than just losing it at the end
I think every gambler realizes this when they win big or small. I think what destroys them is their greed and overconfidence when they win. In this case, a wise strategy is to use some of the winnings that have been withdrawn or secure your capital first and avoid the risk of losing everything if you continue playing. However, in gambling luck can change quickly, and there is no guarantee of continuous winnings. Therefore, discipline and self-control are very important to maintain the victory that has been achieved.
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Re: [HELP]Bantuan Menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] - Legendary Welcome.
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on 06/09/2025, 17:18:51 UTC
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Re: Bagaimana menurut anda memekoin seperti bonk dan floki?
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@nn@_pen9
on 06/09/2025, 16:31:07 UTC
Saya telah membeli dua koin meme , yaitu bonk dan floki, menurut teman teman , apakah dua memekoin tersebut bagus untuk di hold dalam jangka waktu yang lama?
Tidak ada kesempatan datang 2 kali dimemecoin. Karena ini tentang permainan siapa yang lebih awal maka dia yang untung. Saat ini memecoin akan silih berganti trend, era Floki dan Bonk tampaknya sudah selesai dan jika agan baru masuk harap persiapkan mental karena tidak ada jaminan untung berlipat ganda di memecoin yang sudah tidak lagi hype. Aturan utama  di meme coin pastikan datang lebih awal, dan sampai sekarang aturan itu tetap berlaku.
Benar yang mas katakan, meskipun masuk di awal sangat penting, keberhasilan investasi memecoin juga bergantung pada riset, manajemen risiko, dan kemampuan mengikuti dinamika pasar. Apalagi sekarang banyak sekali bermunculan meme baru seperti Pengu, Spx dan banyak lainnya. Tidak semua memecoin akan langsung memberikan keuntungan besar. Kesabaran dan disiplin dalam mengikuti strategi investasi sangat dibutuhkan. Memahami proyek di balik memecoin tersebut, tim pengembang, tujuan, dan komunitasnya sangat penting untuk menghindari risiko penipuan atau proyek yang tidak berkelanjutan, terkadang memecoin sangat dipengaruhi oleh hype atau sentimen pasar.
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Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for September
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@nn@_pen9
on 06/09/2025, 11:42:01 UTC
This month looks like Bitcoin is going to be very bearish unless the condition of the market changes because on the daily time period, I am seeing that a fresh support level has been broken and it's looking like it want to hold and make the price go up but their is no momentum to make the price go up. This month might be bearish from what am seeing and it could dip to $100k.
Based on historical data from previous years, this month saw an average decline ranging from a minimum of 3 percent to a maximum of 7.9 percent. While Bitcoin sentiment for September this year tends to be cautious due to the potential for a potential decline, there's also potential for strengthening if economic data supports expectations of monetary policy easing. The Fed sometimes plays a central role in controlling overall inflation and asset prices, investors are advised to closely monitor economic data and Fed policy developments these factors can significantly influence Bitcoin price movements.
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Re: Things you might miss when starting to trade.
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@nn@_pen9
on 06/09/2025, 10:40:51 UTC
Trading can be considered as a source of income, but the trader must learn with determination to reach that level. There are many who consider trading as a source of income but when they lose their capital instead of profit from it, they get discouraged. To do something good from trading, a trader must go through hardships. There is no chance of regular income in this platform. Those who want to depend on it should definitely change their goals. It is not possible to become successful as a trader by learning only technical or fundamental. Trader must also have a financial backup and try to be realistic.
Yes, if we want to become a much better trader than before, it does require quite a big sacrifice, both in terms of finances and time. Yes, learning to trade is not as easy as we think or instant, we need to spend time to learn the theory, follow market developments, and practice consistently. Besides learning trading techniques, it is also important to hone our psychological skills, including discipline, patience, and emotional control when trading.

Not only that, always evaluate the trading results and strategies used, so that the ability to adapt to the market that is always moving and changing is very important. This sacrifice isn't easy, but with commitment and consistency, the results can be well worth the effort. Successful trading is the result of continuous learning and experience.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2025/26 Season
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@nn@_pen9
on 06/09/2025, 06:13:01 UTC
PSG really made us proud by lifting there first ever champions league trophy.
Which they truly deserved considering there beautiful  performances last season was incredible,but to be honest with you,this season champions league trophy will be coming to England consider the way England teams equipped there squad's during the transfer just concluded transfer window.
I tip Liverpool to win it these season champions league.
I think it's not just Liverpool that has shown good performances or a good track record this year in their respective leagues, but there are many teams that have advantages similar to those you mentioned, such as Real Madrid and other big teams. However, it is important to remember that the Champions League is a very prestigious competition, and every team that makes it into it has gone through a tough battle with the best clubs across Europe.

I think we should not underestimate the development of each team, because in football, dynamics and changes in performance can happen quickly. Previously underrated teams can show significant improvement through coaching strategies, whether it's developing young players or transfer players who are key to strengthening their teams. Furthermore, motivation, teamwork, and experience also play a significant role in determining match outcomes. Therefore, every team competing in the Champions League has the potential to surprise and make the competition even more exciting.
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Re: What kept you safe from doing 'stupid' in gambling
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@nn@_pen9
on 06/09/2025, 04:56:57 UTC
What stopped me from doing "stupid things"? Well, I can't say that I didn't do them. On the contrary, I did them in large quantities, because I didn't think about the consequences. Everything stopped because I started getting threats from collectors and banks, from whom I borrowed money to continue gambling. I was so carried away by all this that I didn't even have time to think about those close to me who would also face this. Everything was automatic. I immersed myself in this world head-on and didn't want to notice anything else. Everything went so far that I had to take emergency measures.
Immersing yourself in a prolonged state won't solve the problem. I think you need to get back on your feet as soon as possible. What emergency measures would you take, such as borrowing from your closest relatives? It is possible that if the borrowing stage is still at a reasonable stage and not too high, there is a big possibility that they can help each other. If it is more than expected or the debt is large, of course this will bring new problems to your brotherhood. I think it doesn't happen automatically but is done with full awareness from you, what causes you to gamble by borrowing a loan? Do you want to chase your losses or do you want to conquer the casino? Gambling should be done responsibly and for fun. If we experience a total loss, we are not too burdened or think too much about the loss that occurred because we already know the risks in gambling.