Je pense que le fisc n'a absolument pas besoin de s'enquiquiner à surveiller les pétitions pour trouver les investisseurs de crypto

D'autre part, même si le principe de la prison pour un livre sur la sécurité sociale me semble choquant ... Je ne connais pas le fond, mais suis convaincu qu'en france on a encore le droit de participer à un sondage concernant un sujet non illicite.
Et de toute façon en tant que gaulois, le jour ou on voudra me la faire fermer faudra se lever de bonne heure :p

Le sujet du topic n'est pas de savoir si 60% est théorique, si ce sera plus ou moins avec astuces ....

Le sujet du topic est de donner un lien vers un endroit ou on peut s'exprimer "librement" si l'on pense que la taxation sur les crypto devrait être plus raisonnable ....

Certe une pétition n'est pas gage de réussite au final, mais au moins c'est la certitude de s'être exprimé et que le gouvernent est au courant (en tout cas beaucoup plus que par des discutions sur bitcointalk :p )

Après chacun est libre de signer ou pas.

Pour ceux qui trouvent que 60% de taxation, ou être taxé sur son CA plutôt que sur ses bénéfices c'est trop :

https://www.change.org/p/non-%C3%A0-la-taxation-excessive-sur-les-cryptomonnaies

Un moyen d'essayer d'agir sans avoir a trop s'investir

Si vous trouvez que 60% d'impot sur crypto c'est trop, alors pétition là :

https://www.change.org/p/non-%C3%A0-la-taxation-excessive-sur-les-cryptomonnaies

Les fisc s'intéresse aux bénéfices ... qu'il y est transaction ou pas ...

Pour déterminer le montant de cette "note" il faudra bien des chiffres au fisc et donc une analyse .... CQFD

5 questions pour mettre sur la voie :

1) Comment fixer la valeur euro de paire crypto/crypto ?

2) Comment fixer la valeur de paire crypto/euro ? Sur la valeur en cours sur son exchange ? sur la moyenne des exchanges ? quels exchanges prendre en compte ? quel valeur de temps ? moyenne journa/hebdo/1mn (même en minute la valeur fluctue beaucoup) ? et si le gain provient d'arbitrage ?

3) tant que les bénéfices sont inférieur à 150.000€ (je crois à partir de cette année) on peut passer en micro bnc ou micro bic ou il s'agit de mode déclaratif (qui peut être contrôlé en cas de contrôle fiscale).
Après en bic il est quasi obligatoire d'avoir un comptable "agrée" ...

4) Si pour un trader qui fait plus de 10 trades / jours tenir une compta précises de chaque transactions est quasi impossible au vue de toutes ces fluctuations/incertitudes ...
LA partie deposit / withdraw du compte d'exchange reste beaucoup plus facile à analyser et plus révélatrice de bénéfice/déficit pour nous mais aussi pour le fisc ....

5) au niveau nationnal .... pensez vous que le fisc préfère analyser les 5/10 deposit/withdraw de chaque titulaire de compte d'exchange ou bien les milliers de transactions de chacuns (et a t il assez de personnes assez qualifiées pour le faire) ?

Ce qui est marrant avec les cryptos en général c'est que tous veulent en parler même s'ils n'y connaissent et comprennent rien ....

Comment des sites sérieux peuvent expliquer des règles fiscales qui n'existent pas ?

Le fisc lui même est dépassé par l'ampleur du phénomène et n'a pour l'instant aucune règle "précise" établies concernant les cryptos autre que celle fondamentale "s'il y a bénéfice/gain alors il y a taxe fiscale".

La tendance semble être le bic ou le bnc, et un membre du gouvernement annonce (par erreur ? ) que la flat taxe (30%) s'appliquera (là ou bic/bnc peut amener à plus de 60% ...).

Laisser parler les beaux parleurs ....

Iriez vous sur le site impot-gouv.fr pour trouver la meilleur ico du moment ?

Alors pourquoi aller sur un site blockchain pour trouver des informations fiscales ? :p

30sec * 300.000 = 3.5j ....

Could you imagine you are not ALONE ?
Could you imagine the number of ticket exchange could receive in 1 day ?

Take me 21 days to unblock my account and my money ...

Actualisez la page kraken avec la bouton actualiser, ET la touche shift enfoncée (touche sous la touche caps lock, ou au dessus de la touche ctrl) afin d'actualiser la page complètement

the evidence for that ?

the person who made the decision on free expenses until the end of the month is one of those who should be fired or at least change jobs and above all no longer have decision-making power...

Why?

1) Free for a certain period of time:
is totally unfair to your clients.... between this who uses a bot or the one who practices scalping and the day trader or the newcomer who will make only one trade during this time the differences are enormous....

2) For Kraken this is the guarantee of maximum loss....

The solution to offer each customer an amount X over a given period of time (long since the 31/12 has passed and so from an accounting point of view there is no problem stop) is....

Would have allowed each client to benefit from the same X advantage, subject to respecting the set duration.

Maybe a little more complex to implement...
But so much fairer to your customers and much less expensive for the company...

It therefore seems obvious that kraken is very secure as exchangers but does not have the skills of adequate levels in all areas....

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the person who made the decision on free expenses until the end of the month is one of those who should be fired or at least change jobs and above all no longer have decision-making power...

Why?

1) Free for a certain period of time:
is totally unfair to your clients.... between this who uses a bot or the one who practices scalping and the day trader or the newcomer who will make only one trade during this time the differences are enormous....

2) For Kraken this is the guarantee of maximum loss....

The solution to offer each customer an amount X over a given period of time (long since the 31/12 has passed and so from an accounting point of view there is no problem stop) is....

Would have allowed each client to benefit from the same X advantage, subject to respecting the set duration.

Maybe a little more complex to implement...
But so much fairer to your customers and much less expensive for the company...

It therefore seems obvious that kraken is very secure as exchangers but does not have the skills of adequate levels in all areas....

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+1 with @StigHelmer

I have 0.000000584 xrp because i can't see them when i make the next withdraw ... So "all" in value where a good idea


In the same way ...

If you try to buy all in 1 value often as the price grow up as if you by at market, the order go on, and you by really ...
Just 2 thing don't go :
1) it always stay you a little euro/usd ... not gravissivity, but in fact if you want by all ...
2) more problematic, the order as it can't go complete go appears as canceled which causes problems with sites like cointraking to retrieve information through api.

Yesterday i go at a friend house to help him for start in cypto ...
Make him his account, do all for him.
But when i come back, i forgot my kraken password
Make a mixture with my password and hers ...

I must admit that this morning when i clic on "forgot my password" i was really affraid that take weeks and weeks ....

And in 10mn all is good

So this part (reset password) work well.

For this time, i use krakapi and all work very very well on kraken (for me and fort this time) [just go on the site 1 time / day to see my account solde to make my excel chart].

So thank you kraken for the update of the engine trading ...

Now, we just wait for the update commercial sense towards your customers

on market cap you seem lost 50% of your daily trade ...
i'm afraid that mean you lost 50% of your customers
You must do something seeing that you are listening to your customers and seeking their opinions and ready to satisfy them as far as possible.
To intervene in this topic in one way or another would be a minimum...

To help you to measure your perceived quality of service, after login give access to a vote from 1 to 10 to measure customer satisfaction and display the result to your customers.
As part of this process, set a goal of perceived quality of service and try to reach it.

In this context, set "limits" that are used as a measure, e. g."limits":
7 days to recover access to a blocked account
4 days to release on hold funds
etc...

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the pseudonym you have chosen is revealing....
The respect you ask others to respect you, you obviously do not consider the duty to others....
If I had to answer you as part of a business, then I would always put you at the bottom of the pile and would only do so when I had no one else to answer....

Hi odoyi09,

First you are in a topic about withdraw/deposit disabled, and your problem is verify account disabled.

Second, i suggest you to go primarily in the official kraken topic where the support come often by septimus to help customer :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.0

But you have to know that kraken make a big update few day ago, and the priority is to make it work well.
They say that verify account is disabled so it's a normal situation for few time.
Just wait a little and verify account will come back up.