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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 19/04/2025, 19:06:47 UTC
Well, Easter truce. There is a possibility that the active phase of the conflict ended today.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 15/03/2025, 04:58:48 UTC
Seems like Putin is going to be a bad bad dog. He has his own pre-conditions to even a cease fire - such as Ukraine not receiving anything during the 30 days Grin (while obviously he will be replenishing the front like crazy).

Also, he wants to keep pushing the full disarmament, recognition of territories under occupation... well, I think Trump and Rubio are about to discover how useless is to talk to Putin. First you need a significant military defeat, then another and then... may be the dog will sit.

All this publicly expressed so it now clear for Trump the degree of "respect" they have for the US.

Trump: Zelensky, we need peace
Zelensky: I disagree
Trump: fuck Zelensky
Zelensky: I agree
Macron: forms a coalition of "the willing"
Trump: Putin, we need peace
Putin: I agree, but we need to fuck Zelensky

=== you are here ===  Grin

That was a month ago...
...
It started a month ago and continues right now.  Grin

I clearly meant that Zelensky already offered to resign - I do not think he has any further interest in power, he can probably make a much better living writting books and giving conferences. Zelensky is the object of hate of Putin and Ruzzia simply because he dared to show how the "emperor was naked", but that is it... it does not have any other consequence for war, just for Putin politics to show as sign of "victory", and he is going to need lots of "signs" to make a "victory" out of this.
Of course Zelensky will resign, but not right now. Because right now he will continue to do everything Trump wants him to do, after a written apology and an agreement to a ceasefire in Saudi Arabia.  Grin
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 14/03/2025, 20:54:27 UTC
Seems like Putin is going to be a bad bad dog. He has his own pre-conditions to even a cease fire - such as Ukraine not receiving anything during the 30 days Grin (while obviously he will be replenishing the front like crazy).

Also, he wants to keep pushing the full disarmament, recognition of territories under occupation... well, I think Trump and Rubio are about to discover how useless is to talk to Putin. First you need a significant military defeat, then another and then... may be the dog will sit.

All this publicly expressed so it now clear for Trump the degree of "respect" they have for the US.

Trump: Zelensky, we need peace
Zelensky: I disagree
Trump: fuck Zelensky
Zelensky: I agree
Macron: forms a coalition of "the willing"
Trump: Putin, we need peace
Putin: I agree, but we need to fuck Zelensky

=== you are here ===  Grin

That was a month ago...
...
It started a month ago and continues right now.  Grin
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Re: Putin Accept a Talk with Zelenskyy under Conditions
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be.open
on 14/03/2025, 09:39:41 UTC
My prediction of the outcome of the war: USA gets minerals, Russia expands its territory, Europe becomes more dependent on America out of fear of Russia, and Ukraine will be the country that suffers the most, losing both territory and mineral resources.
After all: Ukraine is just a piece of cake on the table, and the war is just an excuse for Russia and the United States to legitimize dividing the cake in half.

Minerals - USA
Land - Russia
Debts - Europe
Glory - Ukraine

 Grin
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 14/03/2025, 08:10:47 UTC
Seems like Putin is going to be a bad bad dog. He has his own pre-conditions to even a cease fire - such as Ukraine not receiving anything during the 30 days Grin (while obviously he will be replenishing the front like crazy).

Also, he wants to keep pushing the full disarmament, recognition of territories under occupation... well, I think Trump and Rubio are about to discover how useless is to talk to Putin. First you need a significant military defeat, then another and then... may be the dog will sit.

All this publicly expressed so it now clear for Trump the degree of "respect" they have for the US.

Trump: Zelensky, we need peace
Zelensky: I disagree
Trump: fucks Zelensky
Zelensky: I agree
Macron: forms a coalition of "the willing"
Trump: Putin, we need peace
Putin: I agree, but we need to fuck Zelensky

=== you are here ===  Grin
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 10/03/2025, 09:36:12 UTC
If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
Rubio, with a cross on his forehead, recently openly stated what the essence of this war is: it is a proxy war between two nuclear powers, the United States and Russia.

It's quite hilarious that one side is openly admitting to running a proxy war, and now stopping that armament, but it's the proxy itself that's trying to deny it
After so many years of lies, facing harsh reality can hardly be called hilarious, but there is something funny about it.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 07/03/2025, 03:42:52 UTC
If you can stop for a minute the stormshow of crap and false narratives, you may eventually see what this war is about.
Rubio, with a cross on his forehead, recently openly stated what the essence of this war is: it is a proxy war between two nuclear powers, the United States and Russia.
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Re: Europe needs to stick the finger out and rebuild the military industry
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be.open
on 27/02/2025, 05:11:14 UTC
That is interesting, but it has not happened
Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.
I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan. Europe can't do anything alone, because it is not a subject.

Europe cannot do anything together because is not what?? You probably mean is not a single country under a dictator?

You probably have not heard about the European Union. It is not a single country, but when it comes to doing things together, eventually they do things together. Decades ago it was just a free trade zone, now has a political union and well, I guess we have to thank Putin for making Europe now have to be a military alliance.

I have seen the video too. If Macron is smiling I can already tell you that he got what he went to seek.

Macron held several meetings with Putin and phone calls at the beginin of the war, however he was not able to stop the war. Now Macron has spoken with Trump about deploying EU troops in Ukraine. Trump only cares about not spending resources in Ukraine because either he is being paid by Putin (likely) or he really does not get how important is to have Europe as ally.

Either way it does not matter, if there are European troops in Ukraine, the development of the country and the business opportunities that come with it should be good enough to create the European army. Ukraine will become a military production world class power and most likely Europe will launch an enhanced nuclear weapons programme - many countries were wondering what to do with all that Plutonium from the nuclear reactors anyway.

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Re: Europe needs to stick the finger out and rebuild the military industry
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be.open
on 25/02/2025, 19:58:20 UTC
That is interesting, but it has not happened
Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.

Look, I know you watch the Ruzzian TV, that is not a problem, the problem is that you seem to actually believe it.



Nothing unites more than a common enemy.

But congratulations, your GDP is more than Spain. Or it was before Ukraine's drone strikes in the oil facilities, the embargo,... etc Grin


I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan.
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Re: Europe needs to stick the finger out and rebuild the military industry
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be.open
on 22/02/2025, 19:53:15 UTC
That is interesting, but it has not happened
Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.
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Re: Europe needs to stick the finger out and rebuild the military industry
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be.open
on 22/02/2025, 05:44:04 UTC
BTW,... "I told you" like... a year ago.
Grin
Everything that is happening in Ukraine now is, by and large, not a story about Ukraine, it is a struggle for the redistribution of spheres of influence in Europe. Russia is not satisfied with the current state of affairs, in which Europe is actually occupied by the United States and is under the protection of NATO. According to Russia, this is a threat to its security and generally destabilizes the situation in the region. I think following the results of the special operation in Ukraine, continental Europe will pass under the military protectorate of Russia. That is, Russia will be the guarantor of security in Europe and ensure stability in the region.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 21/02/2025, 04:43:24 UTC
All this depends on a very motivated player, Europe. Can Europe stick the finger out, pay what needs to be paid and start re-building the military industry? Only if the EU takes it seriously.
LOL. Macron called two emergency summits in a row and they both ended in nothing. More precisely, they split the European Union (because Macron did not invite the Czech Republic and Romania, which helped Ukraine even more than France, to the first summit) and it also turned out that Europe is not ready to send its peacekeepers to Ukraine.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 17/02/2025, 05:51:58 UTC
Russia is a hero to around 80% world population...that's a big win.
Poor paxmao delusion comes from a fact that he can't understand
that in the future world EU is irrelevant, and UK even more
Russia is a hero just like Hamas and Hitler. Of course, there are always people who sympathize with the Nazis and aggressors.
Putin's regime not only kills Ukrainians, but also oppresses its own citizens.
I understand the depth of your disappointment with the extremely unfavorable conditions that Trump is imposing on Ukraine and Europe in his peace deal.

As far as I know, there are no conditions imposed in Ukraine as of now because there is nothing agreed. When negotiating nothing is agreed until all is agreed, except when talking to Ruzzia... in that case nothing is agreed even after everything is agreed.

The fact that there is an Ukraine o which to "impose conditions" tells you a lot about how well the plan of taking Kiev in three days went.

As far as I am concernt the plan would be:

- Guarantees to Ruzzia of Ukraine not joinin NATO in exchange for giving back territory.
- Deployment of 250 thousand EU / US troops, with all the means required to take Ruzzia back to Moscow.

And then... Ukraine joining NATO.

Why would you need to keep any agreement with Ruzzia? They are well-known for not keeping their side so...

Quote from a recent article in the National Interest magazine
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The fact is that the Ukraine War is over. Trump has not come out and said this explicitly. But, in thought and deeds, the Americans under Trump have ensured that the war cannot be fought on. What’s more, the Russians have defeated Ukraine. By extension, Moscow has beaten NATO, too. At the very least, this is what Putin’s government will tell its people.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 16/02/2025, 07:08:52 UTC
Russia is a hero to around 80% world population...that's a big win.
Poor paxmao delusion comes from a fact that he can't understand
that in the future world EU is irrelevant, and UK even more
Russia is a hero just like Hamas and Hitler. Of course, there are always people who sympathize with the Nazis and aggressors.
Putin's regime not only kills Ukrainians, but also oppresses its own citizens.
I understand the depth of your disappointment with the extremely unfavorable conditions that Trump is imposing on Ukraine and Europe in his peace deal.
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Re: Концентрированная политика
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be.open
on 15/02/2025, 06:43:19 UTC

Вот это действительно интересно. Для меня по крайне мере.

США освободили россиянина Александра Винника в обмен на американца Марка Фогеля - https://www.bbc.com/russian/articles/c93qver65rko
В московском аэропорту в день возвращения Винника задержали американца с марихуаной в мармеладе  Grin
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 15/02/2025, 03:51:25 UTC
There is only one winner on this war. Not Ruzzia. Not Ukraine. Not Europe.
There is no point in repeating this for the eleventh time, everyone has already understood that you don't give a damn about Ukraine. Well, at least you stopped saying that Ukraine is winning.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 13/02/2025, 18:33:45 UTC
Zelensky should meet with Putin to Settle and talk face to face why he hiding ? Why zelensky using eu to talk ? Why he man up and go moscow face to face meet and talk right to way maybe drink vodka together and talk things out openly with Putin? Why not ?
I think the favorable moment for separate negotiations between Zelensky and Putin has already passed, if it ever existed. For a number of reasons, including Zelensky's illegitimate status. It seems that Ukraine will have to make a choice between a lousy peace and a hopeless war, guided mainly by humanitarian motives.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 13/02/2025, 10:02:33 UTC
Demilitarization of Ukraine and Ukraine not in NATO could have been a bargaining point but Trump gave it as a gift to Putin. Though I highly doubt Putin would have accepted anything less than that after all the lives lost.
 
The only bargain left is of size of land. The deal could be Donbass and Kherson east of Dnieper river given under Russian control and the region of Kursk occupied by Ukraine and Kharkhiv occupied by Russia exchanged.

Regarding the use of natural resources in Ukraine territory post war, Zelensky could get a better deal if he talked straight to Putin but there's very low chances of it.
It seems that Ukraine may become the first country in history that lost a war that will pay reparations not to the winner, but to an ally.
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 01/02/2025, 06:46:35 UTC
You may need glasses, even with 2 minutes of thinking anyone could come up with some ideas...

- What if the aid to Ukraine triples for a year? It would not take much of the US budget to do so.
- What if the US decides that, after all, it is OK for Ukraine to join NATO?
- What if the oil production is increased until barrel at 35 USD? Ruzzia would not be able to finance the war, but not only that, the debt that is hidden all over the privates companies would be at default most likely.
- What if the US decides that Wagner should be expelled from Africa?
According to legend, when Philip of Macedon approached the walls of Sparta, he sent a message to the Spartans saying: "I have conquered all of Greece, I have the best army in the world. Surrender, because if I take Sparta by force, if I break down its gates, if I batter its walls, I will mercilessly destroy the entire population and raze the city to the ground!" To which the Spartans sent the shortest known answer: "If."

Don't threaten if you can't follow through - it's a sign of weakness.

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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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be.open
on 31/01/2025, 18:52:12 UTC
Of course, it could be expected from you to say anything different. But why don't we talk about the elephant in the room?

You probably were thinking that Trump was going to hand over Ukraine, and now you have probably realised that it is not only the case, but further more Trump is going to arm twist the Ruzzian economy further into reaching a reasonable peace plan.
Trump is a chatterbox and a fascist. But this is not Russia's problem now, but rather Canada, Denmark, Panama, Ukraine and the EU. Trump promised to end this conflict in 24 hours and did not do it. Now Trump wants to end this conflict in 100 days and it is unlikely that anything will happen again if he has not even bothered to call Putin. This is all empty talk, not worthy of interested attention.

I am no fan of Trump, and be sure it is everyone's problem  Grin

You are right about one thing there, he makes a lot of noise for every tiny thing he does, but he wants to end the war in Ukraine and he cannot be seen as a weakling, so... expect an inordinate degree of pressure to be on the table.

Biden, in my view, never wanted to really end the war, it would have been very easy to provide the right level of support for that, and not a few bradleys here and there.
Trump has nothing to put pressure on Putin with. Well, maybe Trump has something to put pressure on Zelensky with, we'll see.