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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 25/07/2025, 12:00:57 UTC
I send you email by PM. Thank you holydarkness
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 25/07/2025, 06:28:33 UTC
What should I think about this answer??
https://ibb.co/5WkyN2Bd


If that reply above is received once you sent email to recovery [and suppose that email is a reply from recovery@bcgame], I believe it's a simple interdepartmental-misunderstanding where my contact has arranged for the refund, but perhaps the recovery team mistaken your email as someone else's. I've nudged my contact, and ask them a specific subject you should send your email under, so the team will know it's you.

Yes, that's exactly the response from recovery@bcgame to the request for a refund of deposits with the specified amount and address, the return of which was agreed here. (I described the situation in the request and linked to the forum here).
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 24/07/2025, 16:21:48 UTC
What should I think about this answer??
https://ibb.co/5WkyN2Bd
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 24/07/2025, 04:50:43 UTC

Hello cendaaa,

Our team received your preferred address for return deposit through holydarkness.

We are afraid that we have to follow protocol that will require your written request asking the initial deposit to be returned to the address being referred here, once again, formally through email.

We will be waiting for your email and promptly process the withdrawal.


I just sent an email requesting a refund of my $1900 USD deposits to my ETH address with the address provided. Based on the agreement via holydarknes on the bitcointalk.org forum with a link to this thread.

I sent it to recovery@bcgame.com and support@bc.game
Is this the correct address? Because you didn't provide the address.
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 22/07/2025, 19:07:26 UTC
their firm offer of returning your initial deposit of 1,900 USD. This is the furthest they'll do, given the nature of your case is self-exclusion circumvention.

Thank you for the message, my deposits were in ETH, but I agree, let me forget about it with sorrow and put it out of my mind. How do we do this with them? I assume they have my ETH address?

I assume they do, and they'll proceed by returning 1,900 worth of USD [i am not sure whether they'll be in USDT or in ETH or other currencies] to the originating address. I'll let them know about this decision right away, alongside with inquiring the further details that'll be needed to proceed. Just in case, though, mind to shoot me your ETH address? By PM is fine.


I sent you the ETH address in a private message, I would be happy if the agreed amount in ETH could be sent to me.

I would not address the matter any further, and as I wrote here I would rather forget about this whole situation as soon as possible, with the added thanks for your effort.
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 22/07/2025, 18:42:33 UTC
their firm offer of returning your initial deposit of 1,900 USD. This is the furthest they'll do, given the nature of your case is self-exclusion circumvention.

Thank you for the message, my deposits were in ETH, but I agree, let me forget about it with sorrow and put it out of my mind. How do we do this with them? I assume they have my ETH address?
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 21/07/2025, 21:09:37 UTC
I still haven't received any official explanation, on July 28, 2025 I'll start acting like them
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 17/07/2025, 08:01:49 UTC
is shifted to the player...

The player cannot know whether or not the casino has a license to operate a service in a particular country, it is not public information, it is really the responsibility of the casino if it operates these services in a given country, it must be legally responsible for being able to operate them. Regardless of the fact that my previous account passed KYC verification without any problems, and they allowed me to use their services in my country (I cannot know whether they are breaking the law or not, if I do not know whether they have a license or not).
They can't write whatever they want in their terms and conditions (that you have to wear a black T-shirt with their logo when playing, otherwise you risk having your winnings confiscated). They have to adhere to some legal framework and be responsible for THEIR services.


If you wished to go with that step above to escalate to legal matters, though, by all means, kindly tell me so I can allocate my time better with other cases and drop yours, as it'll be out of my and my contact's hand and shifted to legal department.

Of course, we would prefer to take some kind of amicable path.

Please let us know how BC.Game views the whole situation, or how they propose to resolve the situation, because an agreement may not be reached through official channels. Thank you very much




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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 15/07/2025, 10:21:05 UTC
I have not received any new official explanatory statement from BC.game, not even here on the forum.
We are now preparing a complaint to the Ministry of Finance of the Czech Republic, which is responsible for the license and the Gambling Act.

If bc.game is going to focus on violating one sentence of the terms and conditions, which is supposed to protect players, they have violated almost the entire Gambling Act, which you can download in English here.

https://www.mfcr.cz/cs/kontrola-a-regulace/legislativa/legislativni-dokumenty/2016/zakon-c-186-2016-sb-25992

So that is the first thing that will most likely result in a legal dispute.

The second thing is that we found out that they probably do not even have a license to operate gambling in the Czech Republic. The ministry sanctions this circumvention of the law with a fine of up to 2 million dollars, as stated in the Gambling Act in CZ.

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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 10/07/2025, 15:11:29 UTC
I didnt use vpn during registration, i done it from the same device.
Precisely because these options exist, they could simply be prevented by requiring verification (at least name, address, date of birth) during the registration process.
So, they haven't taken any steps to prevent you from creating an account at BCgame. They should have at least blocked your IP address and device fingerprint. It isn't possible to prevent users from creating multiple accounts by applying mandatory KYC verification. Users who have gambling problems will use their known people to complete the KYC verification.

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I broke a rule that was supposed to protect me as a player and bc.game helped me by freezing my funds in the amount of 29 ETH. Doesn't that sound strange?
They didn't allow you to login and deposit on the same account from which you had requested self-exclusion. You created another account to play there, it is against the terms of the casino. You accepted their terms during registration. Therefore, you are still guilty here if we look at it from the different side.

They do not have a self-exclusion mechanism in the system because they want to (they really don't want to) , but because they have to comply with the licensing conditions and laws of the countries in which they operate.
And they must ensure the functioning of this mechanism.
It is not something that is supposed to help the casino confiscate the money won, but on the contrary, to help players not to lose it when they have a problem.

BC.game abuses this mechanism in the exact opposite way to why it must be introduced in the casino.
They allow these players to deposit and play without verifying their identity and then rob them a second time when they manage to win something.

I think that everyone who has a little sense of law and justice must feel that this does not make sense and goes against the meaning of why they must have a self-exclusion mechanism in the casino and must ensure it.
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 10/07/2025, 12:56:55 UTC
There is a reason why casinos only ask KYC upon violation or big win
or maybe so they don't have to pay them

Please do you have any news from your contact ?

Today, I received an email from bc.game stating that my account has been permanently locked due to prohibited techniques. Without any further explanation.

I requested that the remaining funds from the account be sent to my eth address.



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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 09/07/2025, 13:30:48 UTC
It's the player's responsibility

Responsibility...

Casinos are a regulated industry, they have to comply with the laws and licensing conditions in the countries where they operate. They have committed to ensuring the possibility of self-restrictive measures for players.

I think they cannot throw this responsibility on the user, but they have an obligation to ensure it.

I don't know what is complicated about requiring personal data upon registration (name, address, date of birth, or at least KYC verification before the possibility of depositing and playing.

If someone applies self-restrictive measures and in 10 years re-registers, is it really the user's responsibility where he was or was not registered?

There are thousands of ways to create a new account at online casino after requesting self-exclusion.

I didnt use vpn during registration, i done it from the same device.

Precisely because these options exist, they could simply be prevented by requiring verification (at least name, address, date of birth) during the registration process.

Why they didn't implement this verification during registration is up to each person to answer for themselves, I understand now.

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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 09/07/2025, 06:28:23 UTC
because deposits can be made but then freeze the same accounts when withdrawals are attempted.


Self-exclusion is a process that casinos must enable, its purpose is to help and protect players.

Did bc.game protect me?
NO
They allow me to register deposit and play.

Did bc.game help me?
NO
On the contrary, they did not help me, they froze my winnings, only based on my request for withdrawal.

How can they, based on the idea and process of self-exclusion, which is supposed to help and protect players, take away a player's winnings. This really makes no sense to me.

I am not aware that I broke any rules when registering an account, this responsibility must be on the casinos to ensure that the self-exclusion process helps and protects players. They are just getting easy money from gamblers based on this idea and mechanics. This is absolutely against the meaning of the self-exclusion process.

They did not verify my identity in the registration process, they allowed me to deposit and play. So I played.

And I won't write here now what else they did wrong. Maybe later and in another place.
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 08/07/2025, 20:35:20 UTC
Two, that site you mentioned over and over as their official response, is not their official.

Yes i am sorry it is not, just looks like official.

I'll try to nudge my contact anyway.
Thank you very much, by email its for months.
They haven't even officially written to me yet why my account was temporarily suspended.


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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 08/07/2025, 20:20:16 UTC
You are trying to create your own happiness by looking into different articles at BCgame Grin
Yes you are right, its really funny. I thought this was the official website, it looks like that.

You have violated the self-exclusion rules. Don't try to justify it through other written clauses of the website which aren't connected to the self-exclusion page.
But I think they violated rules and law first, when they alow me to create account, deposit and play.
Of course they can afford everything but you don't read one sentence and they confiscate you money.
Where is there any balance? I know, I'm naive.
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 08/07/2025, 14:58:54 UTC
If you look at the Terms and Conditions when permanently deleting your account(permanent exclusion), it says that "you are not allowed account during this period", "you are not allowed to deposit into a BC.game account", "you are not allowed to wager during this period".
Yes I think it means,that this relate to the account which you selfexcluded.


The part you mentioned on "5 reasons not to delete your account", I am not sure why they would include a link to their registration, but the FAQ explicitly say that only one account per user.

there is written:
If you wish to come back to the site at a later time, you may have to start all over again without having any previous standing, funds, or VIP account.
on words "start all over again" is the link to the artice about registration process
https://bc-game-review.com/registration/

So I think "start all over again" means to do new registration.
There is not written you cannot start all over again but exactly the opposite.
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 08/07/2025, 14:48:33 UTC

Once you’re fully excluded your account there’s no turning back. You can’t create new account with same IP or Identity since it’s already a violation of the ToS.

as I wrote above and see the link, they officially present this option in the instructions...
https://bc-game-review.com/how-to-delete-account/

BC.game will face legal issue if they allow some the option to self exclude permanently then open another account.

And they allow
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 08/07/2025, 14:01:53 UTC
You have violated their rules and got fucked up. Better luck next time.

Like I wrote in the post above
https://bc-game-review.com/how-to-delete-account/
They officially state here how users should violate their terms of service?
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 08/07/2025, 13:49:58 UTC
on top of you violating their Terms and Conditions about having multiple accounts not being allowed(doesn't matter if it is inactive).

I dont know, but here are official instructions, article "How to delete your BC.Game account"
https://bc-game-review.com/how-to-delete-account/

And here in paragraph "5 reasons not to delete your account" is written:
"Difficulty in account recovery. Recovering a deleted account and all the details attached to it may be almost impossible. If you wish to come back to the site at a later time, you may have to start all over again without having any previous standing, funds, or VIP account. ... with a link to article (instructions) "How to sign up on BC.Game"

So with my common sense is possible to permanent selfexcluded from one account and later sign up new account :/
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Re: BC.game KYC failed - account temporarily unaviable - frozen 29ETH
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cendaaa
on 08/07/2025, 11:10:06 UTC
what makes your issue worse is that you requested a permanent exclusion to the other 2 two account you opened before

i closed this account before i opened the new one, so I think it should not makes my issue worse i hope :/


Here are the screenshots of email comunication
https://imgur.com/a/ThvGzSa