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Bet on OKC tonight spread and ml... game 7 let's go! I believe in Durant to right the ship. They just had a bad 4th quarter and SHOULD HAVE WON LAST GAME! Anyone this is my opinion. Good luck all NBA bettors tonight, rgslip--
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https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/d2fe092Z3R6S1FCalVuU0YxTXN3WEVab201dz09/r/2744/
thanks dude just used one of your picks in parlay 
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/4a4ca54c2ljLzI2cndUL0hBT0NBd0ZOd0ZEQT09/r/2744
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/4a4ca54c2ljLzI2cndUL0hBT0NBd0ZOd0ZEQT09/r/2744
Going with Cavs... who do you got? https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/307c272cHlEbUNJSzB5Q1lLZkYzeFV3anRsQT09/r/2744/
Hoping it's a good game!!
Hoping it's a good game!!
I think winning something no matter how small is addicting. You win a little bit and you start to go oh, I like this, and I want to continue it. Now what's strange is what happens when you don't win. I placed a sports bet the other day and it was a "push" or means the funds are returned because a player retired from the match https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/f216fafVnp4Y3dSbjdobUdFTVRKRTREODYvZz09/r/2744 and after this EVEN THOUGH I didn't lose anything, and got my original stake back I still felt like I had missed out. There's this expectation of winning every time you place a bet, but the reality can be different.
How would you feel if you lost 50 btc after gambling... https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/92ff9f2dmRCeSttM0U0a1dPZ0tTSDd4OW4vZz09/r/2744 What's the biggest loss you've taken before, and do you have any good coping strategies? I do wonder if it's better or not to express anger or to just try and ignore it as best as possible. Personally I just get angry and yell some swears, but curious how other people react when losing and any tips on coping.
Re: [ANN] HYPER ~ Game Currency ~MMOs ~Poker ~ 20+ Servers~ShapeShift.io ~RPG +More!
trying to send hyper to a friend, and my wallet is done downloading, I enter my amount his address and my passphrase and I get the message:
Error: Transaction Creation Failed.
I've tried to send some over 10 times and it gives this message every time. Why is it so difficult to send my hyper? I checked and I have over 30,000 confirmations on the hyper too. It just wont let me send it to anyone! So frustrating
Error: Transaction Creation Failed.
I've tried to send some over 10 times and it gives this message every time. Why is it so difficult to send my hyper? I checked and I have over 30,000 confirmations on the hyper too. It just wont let me send it to anyone! So frustrating
Re: [ANN] HYPER ~ Game Currency ~MMOs ~Poker ~ 20+ Servers~ShapeShift.io ~RPG +More!
Can someone explain how the proof of stake thing works? How can I "stake" the 10 hypercrypto coins I have to get 5% extra, and how long will it take? I have the wallet, and downloaded the entire blockchain (took 3 days!), and all transactions are done, but I can't seem to get any to stake. I'm stuck at 0.00 hyper stake? Help!
You should have your wallet unlocked and wait 24 hours (from you last deposit) until staking starts. With only 10 HYPER in your wallet, you will have to be a little more patience until getting your first staked HYPER. Just wait.
It has been over 3 days with 10+ hyper in my wallet and no staking. I opened and closed the wallet over 5 times. I have the whole blockchain downloaded, and over 60 active HYPER connections. It has been over a week since my last deposit. What exactly am I waiting for to happen, can you explain why my share has not been instantly staked? Technically what is going on, and what am I waiting for to happen crazyjack? When you say "only 10 hyper" do you need above a certain amount to get stake rewards?
I remember when I first set up the wallet, it took me quite a while to start staking. As the others have said, just be patient. As long as your wallet is unlocked for POS, it will happen
Thanks pablo, but now I am having a different problem with the wallet... I can't even open it or use my pc! The only thing I do is start my computer up and run the hyper wallet, and my computer goes to a standstill. When I look in processes the hyper qt is using 15gb of my total 16gb ram? This is not cool. When I close it my pc is fine. I never had this problem with my bitcoin wallets, so it has me paranoid now.
Re: [ANN] HYPER ~ Game Currency ~MMOs ~Poker ~ 20+ Servers~ShapeShift.io ~RPG +More!
Can someone explain how the proof of stake thing works? How can I "stake" the 10 hypercrypto coins I have to get 5% extra, and how long will it take? I have the wallet, and downloaded the entire blockchain (took 3 days!), and all transactions are done, but I can't seem to get any to stake. I'm stuck at 0.00 hyper stake? Help!
You should have your wallet unlocked and wait 24 hours (from you last deposit) until staking starts. With only 10 HYPER in your wallet, you will have to be a little more patience until getting your first staked HYPER. Just wait.
It has been over 3 days with 10+ hyper in my wallet and no staking. I opened and closed the wallet over 5 times. I have the whole blockchain downloaded, and over 60 active HYPER connections. It has been over a week since my last deposit. What exactly am I waiting for to happen, can you explain why my share has not been instantly staked? Technically what is going on, and what am I waiting for to happen crazyjack? When you say "only 10 hyper" do you need above a certain amount to get stake rewards?
Re: [ANN] HYPER ~ Game Currency ~MMOs ~Poker ~ 20+ Servers~ShapeShift.io ~RPG +More!
Can someone explain how the proof of stake thing works? How can I "stake" the 10 hypercrypto coins I have to get 5% extra, and how long will it take? I have the wallet, and downloaded the entire blockchain (took 3 days!), and all transactions are done, but I can't seem to get any to stake. I'm stuck at 0.00 hyper stake? Help!
Did anyone check out this altcoin hyper crypto? It looks cool as a gaming based crypto with actual games you can play to earn it. There's a video with the mixed martial arts fighter Jon Fitch promoting it they put out with some good insights. I have to admit the youtube comment fights are too funny though (i'll paste it below). What are you thoughts on hyper? Personally as a gamer I'm buying some!
the hyper alt coin video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6EK4mzfdr8
the youtube fighting
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald1 week ago
Huge Jon Fitch fan here, and I hope he wins his fight! He is a great fighter, and I will always remember his bouts with BJ Penn and GSP in the UFC. Rock on Jon, true warrior.
It is great he found a sponsorship, but I did some research on this hyper coin sponsor, and I am worried about him being associated with this group.
Fair warning: hypercrypto is a cryptocurrency that was premined, do not invest in this coin. Devs will pump up the value and dump their hyper coins leaving you hanging. The creators of hyper are anonymous and there is no accountability or credibility. If you look at the hypercrypto thread on bitcointalk forum they have been promising to create a space mmo for the last 2 years and have produced nothing. If you look at the hypercrypto.com forum it is just spam. There is no real community, there is only people holding hyper waiting to prey upon investors. It is billed as a gaming coin, but the people promoting it are admittedly not interested in gaming--they are interested in making a quick profit off investors. So be careful, these people are shady af
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Pablo ThreeToFive
Pablo ThreeToFive1 week ago (edited)
Clearly, considering your knowledge of the cryptocurrency space, knowledge of BitcoinTalk, and knowledge of what a 'pre-mine' is, you have a vested interest in smashing Hyper, probably because you have invested your time and money into another coin.
The premine was not malicious or unfair. It was clearly listed and documented, prior to the launch of the coin. The specific, intended use of the pre-mined coins is also recorded.
Readers:
Do not necessarily trust people who put down (or up) a cryptocurrency, usually they have a vested interest in doing so. Do your own research. People have polar opposite opinions in the cryptocurrency space - mostly based on selfish, financial interests.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald1 week ago
+Pablo ThreeToFive This does not explain the false promises developers have made about creating a space MMO. Where is it? It does not exist. It has been over two years, and there is no MMO being developed.
The talk about there being a gaming community around the coin is also misleading. There is a small and almost non-existent gaming community. Game developers are not interested enough to care about hyper. Why? Hyper copied another coin's infrastructure and has no distinct advantage over any other coins. It would be better to just make a bitcoin game, or create your own currency.
Videos like his promoting the coin are by people who aren't even interested in gaming (JTNichol and Fitch admit they don't even play games in the video). So what are they interested in? Making a profit by trading this hyper coin when fools invest raising the price.
People like this invest in a low valued coin. Then they create videos and press releases to hype up a coin. The goal is to attract gullible investors, and then sell their crypto coins as the price goes up. It's called a pump and dump, google it.
The bottom line is can you trust hyper? No. The hyper developer is anonymous and has no credibility. This is a warning sign: what does the developer have to hide? The premined coins for hyper are supposedly to develop gaming projects. Where are the projects? Hyper repeatedly promises a space MMO, and a gaming community. Where is the community? Look at the official hypercrypto.com forum... there is no community only spam messages.
Please look into it yourself instead of attacking me; all the information is open and available in the bitcointalk hypercrypto thread.
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Pablo ThreeToFive
Pablo ThreeToFive1 week ago
I did not attack you. Sorry you feel this way
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Bit Bit
Bit Bit5 days ago (edited)
+Ronald Mcdonald You can see game servers and statistics at http://cashncarry.info there are lots of players, also the MMO that HYPER helped sponsor development of (Dragon Knight 2) http://dknight2.com/portal/ has over 1000 players online at any one time. The high number of players is also due to HYPER promoting the game in PR. HYPER also has the world's first crypto twitch bot that anyone can use: https://www.cashncarry.info/hypertipbot and also its own twitch TV stream that streams direct from the HYPER servers at https://www.twitch.tv/hypercrypto HYPER has a ton of game servers and if you read the whole thread from start to finish you would see that the premine has been used exactly as intended. In regards to the community HYPER had an awesome forum at hypercrypto.com but the site was hacked last year and the old forum erased and the webhost did not have a backup. So now the community is on bitcointalk and seems pretty active to me. Good things take time and considering HYPERfuture is still here after almost 2 years (and if you do read the whole thread you will see the coin has been through a lot), seems to show that HYPER is the opposite of a pump and dump to me.
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Crypto Database
Crypto Database5 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald I am one of the people promoting HYPER and I do in fact have online games, notably https://dknight2.com which HYPER has been a big supporter of. There are many games out there that use HYPER and many ways you can play games to earn it.
Their space game is being worked on, I know this because I was presented with the game's source code to do some work on it but I didn't have the time to do so.
You should do some more research before going somewhere and talking about things that you clearly know nothing about.
Regards,
Ken
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald4 days ago
+Bit Bit:
Dragon Knight 2 does not have "1000 players on at any time". This is a strange claim to be making. Look at their official forum on http://dknight2.com/forum/ and you will see only "1216 Posts in 282 Topics by 107 Members". If they had 1000 players there would be much more activity by many more members. This seems to be a gross overestimation of the player base.
Cashncarry does have a ton of game servers, but is there "lots of players"? Their forum https://www.cashncarry.info/forums has almost no activity and only a few people posting. Where are the players? If you look at the server information almost all of the servers are empty with bots. There are monthly competitions awarding hyper but the records show that they are not all being awarded https://www.cashncarry.info/servers/competitions/competitions-archive and most of the winning spots are to unregistered players (who probably joined randomly not even knowing or caring what hyper is). It seems many times people join the server for a minute never to return again. From the stats page it seems there are less than 30 regular players who use hyper, and more players who join briefly and don't know about or use hyper at all.
I have checked the twitch stream you listed https://www.twitch.tv/hypercrypto multiple times over the last 2 weeks and there has been no streams, or any recorded broadcasts, so I have to assume it is not functional, or not maintained.
The hypercrypto.com official forum was hacked last year, and the hypercrypto managers have still not cleaned it up? What does this say about the hyper community managers? They don't care about cleaning up their own website which has been full of spam text for the last year. A crypto site that can't handle its own website security is kind of ironic. How can a user trust them with their name, password, and personal details? How can someone trust the actual coin itself? It shows hyper is not maintained, and either doesn't have a community or doesn't care about it.
What is the purpose of hyper, and why should you use hyper over any other crypto currency? This question is never addressed. All that is said is it's a currency for gamers. It does not appear to bring anything new to the table, and there is hype and lies about a space mmo that is not being created, and a community that appears to not exist. The second the coin gains value the developers, or other investors in the coin, will dump the coins to profit. What else could the coin be for other than to make a quick profit off gullible gamer investors? What new things does it offer over other coins? Why hyper? Why are the developers anonymous? Sorry, but if you trust an anonymous entity you are just waiting to be scammed.
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Bit Bit
Bit Bit4 days ago (edited)
+Ronald Mcdonald So many of your claims are wrong and also paranoid! Why would Dragon Knight lie about the number of players it is on their site for anyone to see? The numbers fluctuate when the number of players fluctuates. In regards to the MMO space game Crypto Galaxies is being worked on you can see it on bitcointalk and as Crypto Database said he has seen the source code of the game you are saying is not being worked on! In regards to the forum after the hack, the original website, forum and EVERYTHING was lost and they developed the new site at hypercypto.com within a week after the hack when the old forum and everything was lost. This was a huge blow to the community (the old site was really awesome) but I doubt you would have any idea of the work that has gone into HYPER so far and the things the project has been through. Most of the HYPER community is on bitcointalk and I would rather the developers work on their games and projects than worry about the small forum on hypercrypto.com. You are biased, and paranoid. The currency has many merchants that accept it and places it can be used and won for gaming.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald3 days ago
+Bit Bit :
You are being very misleading. If there are 1000 ACTIVE players in Dragon Knight why are there only 107 forum members for DK? Why is there almost no one posting, no where near 1000 people, on their official thread on bitcointalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=984042.260 ? If I go to the DK game site right now it says "server1--1392 Players--Online!". Then if I actually log into the game the stats show only "12 players online and 0 guests." Where are the other 1380 players? This is a blatant lie that there are "over 1000 players online at any time". The site itself disproves it. Have you ever checked the official Dragon Knight player statistics page? https://dknight2.com/index.php?do=stats It shows that only a maximum of 230 players have ever been online at once EVER.
You are conveniently ignoring the facts over and over. Why don't you address these important questions:
Why is the developer of hypercrypto anonymous? What's to hide?
Why should anyone trust a cryptocurrency who can't secure their own website? Security is not important clearly.
Why should anyone invest in a premined crypto like hyper is? The developer can dump the coins at any time. You say they are using the pre mined coins to help projects, but they aren't using all of the coins by far they premined. Also hyper is 5% proof of stake monthly, so their amount of coins owned have grown astronomically. History has shown over and over again that premined coins are scams, and the developers are going to dump the coins when the value goes up enough.
Forgetting the above, what value does hyper add as a cryptocurrency that another can't? What is original about hyper? It's just a copy. Why shouldn't a game integrate a proven and more valuable coin with more active developers, or instead develop their own coin to use in game? There is no inherent value hyper brings except false promises.
Where have the space mmo hyper funds gone? Supposedly the mmo was being developed for the LAST TWO YEARS? AND THERE IS NO PLAYABLE GAME? The game you provided, Crypto Galaxies is not playable. Look at the bitcointalk forum and you see just ideas of what might be in the game https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1374470 , and the official website has no playable alpha or anything, you can't sign up, it is just some basic text https://cryptogalaxies.com/ . Where did the premined funds towards developing the space MMO go for the last two years? Where? The sole screenshot of gameplay shows a simple browser game styled similar to that Dragon Knights game, something that could be made in less than a day. There is only one developer on the game currently, who is also anonymous? Oh give me a break!
Don't you see all of this just keeps adding up? You have anonymous developers who copied a coin, renamed it, premined the coin, promise to develop a space mmo for years without actually producing anything. You have alt coin investors investing in this coin hoping to make a quick profit when it goes up a percentage, and then dump the coin. What will make the coin go up in profit? Hype about what projects are coming in the future. Get people excited and then sell your coins for a quick profit. It doesn't help that people promoting hyper are straight up lying about existing games integrating hyper having "an astounding number of active users over 1000". The people promoting the coin don't even play the games, they invested in the coin to hopefully return a profit and will sell once the price goes up. Promise new project developments, find people interested in gaming, and sell when fools invest. The more I look at it it's embarrassing for Jon Fitch to be attached to this ponzi.
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Crypto Database
Crypto Database3 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald Your unsubstantiated claims are really amusing. If you knew anything at all about online gaming you wouldn't even make the comments you have stated.
As for my forums I'll go ahead and fill you in on a common known fact about gaming. Only a small amount of players actually take part in social activities such as forums.
Don't believe me? Let me give you some actual facts. At the time of this posting Runescape has over 100,000,000 accounts and only 43 players viewing their forums. Look it up for yourself if you think I am lying or stretching what I say to fit my purposes.
He may have gotten the statistics wrong for my game but there are over 1,380 players who have signed up and 530 of those have been active in the last month. The game just reached it's 1 year anniversary so what does that tell you? That's 1,380 players just for my game alone, this isn't including the ones who play the other games where you can earn HYPER at. Just because someone wasn't on at the exact time you were doesn't mean nobody uses it. The day is broad and believe it or not but not everyone has your daily cycle and logs in at the exact times you do.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald3 days ago
+Crypto Database This makes no sense at all. What does Runescape's number of accounts, or number of players viewing Runescape's forum have to do with anything? Runescape has nothing to do with hyper or Dragon Knight. Runescape is a successful mmorpg with a huge following and its own currency coins.
Runescape's forum and whole community is way more active than Dragon Knight's by far. There are under 530 people active on Dragon Knight as you say... why would people want to play this game over other mmorpgs like Wow, Guild Wars 2, or Final Fantasy where there is an actual community?
This game Dragon Knight is just a shell game set up to create the illusion that there are actual game devs and gamers around hyper. It's all an illusion! There isn't a large hyper gaming community, it's a small handful of people barely playing. Hyper isn't innovative at all, and it only exists to pay off the developers and traders when someone new invests in it.
It is not true that only a small number of gamers are social and take part in forums and chat. Are you living under a rock? The players at Dragon Knight don't communicate because they don't care about the game or their community. It's more like a faucet giving them free coins than a real game. They would stop playing the game if they were not being payed cents to play. It's a complete racket.
This is why it's a shame Jon Fitch is involved in this because he does simply not know any better, and doesn't even play games as he said. It's really a terrible thing you're trying to pull and I will not stand for this coin soiling Jon Fitch's name, it is not right, and someone has to stand up to this. God forbid some Jon Fitch MMA fan invests in hyper and gets scammed.
Over and over again you see the people creating these games like Dragon Knight, and the currency hyper are all anonymous entities because when push comes to shove and they scam everyone out of their money they can disappear. Don't fall for it.
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Jeremiah Nichol
Jeremiah Nichol3 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald We've been here for 2 years. If this was a scam then the dev would have dropped off the earth in Dec. 2015 when it crashed. Well...he's here and we've built a team. Besides Jon Fitch has been into HYPER since it began really. He's BEEN a part of the community for a long time dude. It is small but growing and we have fun tossin' ideas around and helping gamers game on indie platforms. Just chill. You don't have to be so negative. The pump and dump as you are describing would have been done and over with in a matter of a month or two after it launched 2 years ago. Well...it didn't go away. So leave it and us alone if you don't like it.
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Crypto Database
Crypto Database2 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald DKV was created before I even knew about HYPER and has more than just that currency in the game so your suggestion that it is just a shell game is ridiculous. You stated that nobody played it based off of the forum stats and when I proved you wrong you decide to make up even more ridiculous accusations.
Show me one other game like mine that has been created for HYPER or any other currency, the last time I checked DKV is the only game like this where you can earn Crypto for playing.
Of course it is a faucet, why else do you think I created it as a game that pays you to play? You need to use your head and think for once instead of just repeating yourself. You can't even keep up with your own nonsense.
You even thinking you know more about my game than I do is pretty amusing, you can keep thinking that but I'm pretty sure I know more about it than you do.
Bottom line is you have no idea what you are talking about and are alone in your thinking. If you don't like the coin then that's fine, feel free to check out one of the other thousands of coins out there and make your pick.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald18 hours ago
+Crypto Database Stop lying and twisting the facts. I did not say "nobody plays [DKV] based off of the forum stats". I was responding to user +Bit Bit who said: "the MMO that HYPER helped sponsor development of (Dragon Knight 2) http://dknight2.com/portal/ has over 1000 players online at any one time".
This is wrong. There has never been over 1000 players online at one time on DKV according to the official DKV player stats page https://dknight2.com/index.php?do=stats . What I am saying is if you join DKV you will find there is a very small community of players, and it is misleading to make it sound like there are thousands of active players when in reality there are only hundreds.
It is dishonest to promote your game in this way. When you call it an MMORPG you must mean moderately manned open role playing game because it's surely not a massively multiplayer experience.
+Crypto Database "Show me one other game like mine integrating hyper..." There are plenty of other rpg and fantasy games available to earn hyper. You make it sound like you're the only one. From the official bitcointalk forum thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624651.msg14088552#msg14088552
1.World of Warcraft [fantasy MMORPG] https://www.cashncarry.info/servers/world-of-warcraft/wow-howtoplay
2.EVE Online [space based MMORPG] http://hypercrypto.com/eve-online/
3.Pirates, Vikings, & Knights II [free fantasy action game with rpg elements] http://hyper.microngaming.com/hlstats.php?game=pvkii
+Crypto Database "Why do you think I created it as a game that pays you to play?" The only reason you created it is to profit off of getting payed to run it, and then I'm guessing you're waiting to sell off your hyper when it increases in price as well. It's not like you're running this as a charity.
If you were interested in developing a real mmorpg you wouldn't cut corners with what is a seriously bare bones design even for a mud type game. You don't need fancy graphics to make a great rpg, but you do need devs who care. Look at a game like dwarf fortress http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ you should aspire to something like that instead of being so inactive as a developer.
The player base isn't there for DKV because the game is lacking in content and creativity. You are more concerned with running the game as a bitcoin faucet style site for profit than creating an immersive and attractive world. You get paid in hyper to run the site, right, and give out little percentages of that to players. When the price goes up you will decide to sell your hyper holdings, and move onto whatever next trendy altcoin there is to make a financial gain.
So how exactly does hyper add value to the gaming community? What can hyper do that bitcoin, or another altcoin can't? Why do we need this coin integrated in our games? Why is the hyper developer anonymous? Can you trust an anonymous entity? Why is hyper continually promising to develop a space mmo with premined funds that over two years has seen no progress, not even a playable alpha available? Did the premined hyper coins just disappear during the "development" of the space mmo, where are they? Why are you still avoiding these questions? +Crypto Database I'm not "alone in my thinking", and gamers want answers now.
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Pablo ThreeToFive
Pablo ThreeToFive16 hours ago (edited)
+Ronald Mcdonald First you argue that hyper has no users, and no games that use it... Now, you are arguing with a hyper user, and providing a list of games that use hyper. You have contradicted yourself. In your comments you have come of as ignorant and pompous. You also do not speak for all gamers. Are you just trolling for fun?
Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald2 hours ago
+Pablo ThreeToFive Please stop twisting and oversimplifying my words. You are simply wrong. I did not say "hyper has no users, and no games".
I called you out for exaggerating the user base numbers, and the quality of some of the games implementing hyper. I questioned why hyper was a premined currency, and where the preminded funds went. Supposedly much of the premined funds went to develop a space mmo for over two years, yet the space mmo does not appear to even exist. To this day there is no playable game that the funds supposedly went to developing for two years.
The illusion you are trying to create is that many gamers are behind this coin. You are painting the picture that many gamers are using this coin now, and many developers are creating new games integrating hyper. The truth is there are few gamers and games using hyper, and there are very few developers interested in using hyper. What are people interested in?
It appears people are more interested in hyper being a short term high risk investment vehicle than a useful gaming cryptocurrency. The problem still exists that hyper does not add anything another coin or virtual currency can't.
Now there are poorly created faucet games like Dragon Knights of Valeria, and implementations upon existing games, but still no sign of the space mmo that much of the premined coins went towards developing. Again, where are those coins now Pablo? The hyper developers are anonymous, and you cannot truly know their intentions. How can you trust an anonymous entity Pablo? They are possibly waiting for the price to go up a significant amount to slowly sell off their premined coins.
The truth is Instead of addressing these questions you are calling me "pompous and ignorant". You are not able to discuss or bring any new facts to the table, and are resorting to name calling... calling me a troll? I'm not quoting obscure resources, wikipedia, or academic articles here... I'm literally looking at the hyper bitcointalk thread, the DKV website, and the official hypercrypto website.
You don't see ANY issues with how hyper is being promoted, or hyper the gaming currency itself? There are tons of red flags:
There are not thousands of active players on DKV using hyper, this is a GROSS EXAGERATION.
There are promises of development, and currency going towards PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT BEING MADE OVER THE COURSE OF YEARS.
Where is the transparency? There is no transparency in hyper with the developers being ANONYMOUS. Who is behind this currency? We don't know. What are their intentions? We don't know. What system is there to keep them in place from doing something destructive, or manipulative? Nothing.
The icing on the cake is there really isn't much novel or useful in hyper as a cryptocurrency itself. What's the difference between hyper and any other crypto or virtual currency? The only thing hyper is useful for is as a high risk investment vehicle. You know, invest in hyper, hope other idiots invest driving the price up, and then sell off your hyper at a profit. That's a dangerous game to be playing Pablo, if that's what you're into...
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Jeremiah Nichol
Jeremiah Nichol47 minutes ago
+Ronald Mcdonald Do you even Bitcoin? Where's Satoshi's coins? We realize the same truth together. HYPER is a niche market with a niche market cap. It's our corner of the crypto world and we're working on making it better. There is one dev. He's annonymous all right. But if this was a scam he would have left a year ago. Are you done with your FUD now? Please stop.
the hyper alt coin video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6EK4mzfdr8
the youtube fighting
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald1 week ago
Huge Jon Fitch fan here, and I hope he wins his fight! He is a great fighter, and I will always remember his bouts with BJ Penn and GSP in the UFC. Rock on Jon, true warrior.
It is great he found a sponsorship, but I did some research on this hyper coin sponsor, and I am worried about him being associated with this group.
Fair warning: hypercrypto is a cryptocurrency that was premined, do not invest in this coin. Devs will pump up the value and dump their hyper coins leaving you hanging. The creators of hyper are anonymous and there is no accountability or credibility. If you look at the hypercrypto thread on bitcointalk forum they have been promising to create a space mmo for the last 2 years and have produced nothing. If you look at the hypercrypto.com forum it is just spam. There is no real community, there is only people holding hyper waiting to prey upon investors. It is billed as a gaming coin, but the people promoting it are admittedly not interested in gaming--they are interested in making a quick profit off investors. So be careful, these people are shady af
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Pablo ThreeToFive
Pablo ThreeToFive1 week ago (edited)
Clearly, considering your knowledge of the cryptocurrency space, knowledge of BitcoinTalk, and knowledge of what a 'pre-mine' is, you have a vested interest in smashing Hyper, probably because you have invested your time and money into another coin.
The premine was not malicious or unfair. It was clearly listed and documented, prior to the launch of the coin. The specific, intended use of the pre-mined coins is also recorded.
Readers:
Do not necessarily trust people who put down (or up) a cryptocurrency, usually they have a vested interest in doing so. Do your own research. People have polar opposite opinions in the cryptocurrency space - mostly based on selfish, financial interests.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald1 week ago
+Pablo ThreeToFive This does not explain the false promises developers have made about creating a space MMO. Where is it? It does not exist. It has been over two years, and there is no MMO being developed.
The talk about there being a gaming community around the coin is also misleading. There is a small and almost non-existent gaming community. Game developers are not interested enough to care about hyper. Why? Hyper copied another coin's infrastructure and has no distinct advantage over any other coins. It would be better to just make a bitcoin game, or create your own currency.
Videos like his promoting the coin are by people who aren't even interested in gaming (JTNichol and Fitch admit they don't even play games in the video). So what are they interested in? Making a profit by trading this hyper coin when fools invest raising the price.
People like this invest in a low valued coin. Then they create videos and press releases to hype up a coin. The goal is to attract gullible investors, and then sell their crypto coins as the price goes up. It's called a pump and dump, google it.
The bottom line is can you trust hyper? No. The hyper developer is anonymous and has no credibility. This is a warning sign: what does the developer have to hide? The premined coins for hyper are supposedly to develop gaming projects. Where are the projects? Hyper repeatedly promises a space MMO, and a gaming community. Where is the community? Look at the official hypercrypto.com forum... there is no community only spam messages.
Please look into it yourself instead of attacking me; all the information is open and available in the bitcointalk hypercrypto thread.
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Pablo ThreeToFive
Pablo ThreeToFive1 week ago
I did not attack you. Sorry you feel this way
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Bit Bit
Bit Bit5 days ago (edited)
+Ronald Mcdonald You can see game servers and statistics at http://cashncarry.info there are lots of players, also the MMO that HYPER helped sponsor development of (Dragon Knight 2) http://dknight2.com/portal/ has over 1000 players online at any one time. The high number of players is also due to HYPER promoting the game in PR. HYPER also has the world's first crypto twitch bot that anyone can use: https://www.cashncarry.info/hypertipbot and also its own twitch TV stream that streams direct from the HYPER servers at https://www.twitch.tv/hypercrypto HYPER has a ton of game servers and if you read the whole thread from start to finish you would see that the premine has been used exactly as intended. In regards to the community HYPER had an awesome forum at hypercrypto.com but the site was hacked last year and the old forum erased and the webhost did not have a backup. So now the community is on bitcointalk and seems pretty active to me. Good things take time and considering HYPERfuture is still here after almost 2 years (and if you do read the whole thread you will see the coin has been through a lot), seems to show that HYPER is the opposite of a pump and dump to me.
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Crypto Database
Crypto Database5 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald I am one of the people promoting HYPER and I do in fact have online games, notably https://dknight2.com which HYPER has been a big supporter of. There are many games out there that use HYPER and many ways you can play games to earn it.
Their space game is being worked on, I know this because I was presented with the game's source code to do some work on it but I didn't have the time to do so.
You should do some more research before going somewhere and talking about things that you clearly know nothing about.
Regards,
Ken
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald4 days ago
+Bit Bit:
Dragon Knight 2 does not have "1000 players on at any time". This is a strange claim to be making. Look at their official forum on http://dknight2.com/forum/ and you will see only "1216 Posts in 282 Topics by 107 Members". If they had 1000 players there would be much more activity by many more members. This seems to be a gross overestimation of the player base.
Cashncarry does have a ton of game servers, but is there "lots of players"? Their forum https://www.cashncarry.info/forums has almost no activity and only a few people posting. Where are the players? If you look at the server information almost all of the servers are empty with bots. There are monthly competitions awarding hyper but the records show that they are not all being awarded https://www.cashncarry.info/servers/competitions/competitions-archive and most of the winning spots are to unregistered players (who probably joined randomly not even knowing or caring what hyper is). It seems many times people join the server for a minute never to return again. From the stats page it seems there are less than 30 regular players who use hyper, and more players who join briefly and don't know about or use hyper at all.
I have checked the twitch stream you listed https://www.twitch.tv/hypercrypto multiple times over the last 2 weeks and there has been no streams, or any recorded broadcasts, so I have to assume it is not functional, or not maintained.
The hypercrypto.com official forum was hacked last year, and the hypercrypto managers have still not cleaned it up? What does this say about the hyper community managers? They don't care about cleaning up their own website which has been full of spam text for the last year. A crypto site that can't handle its own website security is kind of ironic. How can a user trust them with their name, password, and personal details? How can someone trust the actual coin itself? It shows hyper is not maintained, and either doesn't have a community or doesn't care about it.
What is the purpose of hyper, and why should you use hyper over any other crypto currency? This question is never addressed. All that is said is it's a currency for gamers. It does not appear to bring anything new to the table, and there is hype and lies about a space mmo that is not being created, and a community that appears to not exist. The second the coin gains value the developers, or other investors in the coin, will dump the coins to profit. What else could the coin be for other than to make a quick profit off gullible gamer investors? What new things does it offer over other coins? Why hyper? Why are the developers anonymous? Sorry, but if you trust an anonymous entity you are just waiting to be scammed.
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Bit Bit
Bit Bit4 days ago (edited)
+Ronald Mcdonald So many of your claims are wrong and also paranoid! Why would Dragon Knight lie about the number of players it is on their site for anyone to see? The numbers fluctuate when the number of players fluctuates. In regards to the MMO space game Crypto Galaxies is being worked on you can see it on bitcointalk and as Crypto Database said he has seen the source code of the game you are saying is not being worked on! In regards to the forum after the hack, the original website, forum and EVERYTHING was lost and they developed the new site at hypercypto.com within a week after the hack when the old forum and everything was lost. This was a huge blow to the community (the old site was really awesome) but I doubt you would have any idea of the work that has gone into HYPER so far and the things the project has been through. Most of the HYPER community is on bitcointalk and I would rather the developers work on their games and projects than worry about the small forum on hypercrypto.com. You are biased, and paranoid. The currency has many merchants that accept it and places it can be used and won for gaming.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald3 days ago
+Bit Bit :
You are being very misleading. If there are 1000 ACTIVE players in Dragon Knight why are there only 107 forum members for DK? Why is there almost no one posting, no where near 1000 people, on their official thread on bitcointalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=984042.260 ? If I go to the DK game site right now it says "server1--1392 Players--Online!". Then if I actually log into the game the stats show only "12 players online and 0 guests." Where are the other 1380 players? This is a blatant lie that there are "over 1000 players online at any time". The site itself disproves it. Have you ever checked the official Dragon Knight player statistics page? https://dknight2.com/index.php?do=stats It shows that only a maximum of 230 players have ever been online at once EVER.
You are conveniently ignoring the facts over and over. Why don't you address these important questions:
Why is the developer of hypercrypto anonymous? What's to hide?
Why should anyone trust a cryptocurrency who can't secure their own website? Security is not important clearly.
Why should anyone invest in a premined crypto like hyper is? The developer can dump the coins at any time. You say they are using the pre mined coins to help projects, but they aren't using all of the coins by far they premined. Also hyper is 5% proof of stake monthly, so their amount of coins owned have grown astronomically. History has shown over and over again that premined coins are scams, and the developers are going to dump the coins when the value goes up enough.
Forgetting the above, what value does hyper add as a cryptocurrency that another can't? What is original about hyper? It's just a copy. Why shouldn't a game integrate a proven and more valuable coin with more active developers, or instead develop their own coin to use in game? There is no inherent value hyper brings except false promises.
Where have the space mmo hyper funds gone? Supposedly the mmo was being developed for the LAST TWO YEARS? AND THERE IS NO PLAYABLE GAME? The game you provided, Crypto Galaxies is not playable. Look at the bitcointalk forum and you see just ideas of what might be in the game https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1374470 , and the official website has no playable alpha or anything, you can't sign up, it is just some basic text https://cryptogalaxies.com/ . Where did the premined funds towards developing the space MMO go for the last two years? Where? The sole screenshot of gameplay shows a simple browser game styled similar to that Dragon Knights game, something that could be made in less than a day. There is only one developer on the game currently, who is also anonymous? Oh give me a break!
Don't you see all of this just keeps adding up? You have anonymous developers who copied a coin, renamed it, premined the coin, promise to develop a space mmo for years without actually producing anything. You have alt coin investors investing in this coin hoping to make a quick profit when it goes up a percentage, and then dump the coin. What will make the coin go up in profit? Hype about what projects are coming in the future. Get people excited and then sell your coins for a quick profit. It doesn't help that people promoting hyper are straight up lying about existing games integrating hyper having "an astounding number of active users over 1000". The people promoting the coin don't even play the games, they invested in the coin to hopefully return a profit and will sell once the price goes up. Promise new project developments, find people interested in gaming, and sell when fools invest. The more I look at it it's embarrassing for Jon Fitch to be attached to this ponzi.
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Crypto Database
Crypto Database3 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald Your unsubstantiated claims are really amusing. If you knew anything at all about online gaming you wouldn't even make the comments you have stated.
As for my forums I'll go ahead and fill you in on a common known fact about gaming. Only a small amount of players actually take part in social activities such as forums.
Don't believe me? Let me give you some actual facts. At the time of this posting Runescape has over 100,000,000 accounts and only 43 players viewing their forums. Look it up for yourself if you think I am lying or stretching what I say to fit my purposes.
He may have gotten the statistics wrong for my game but there are over 1,380 players who have signed up and 530 of those have been active in the last month. The game just reached it's 1 year anniversary so what does that tell you? That's 1,380 players just for my game alone, this isn't including the ones who play the other games where you can earn HYPER at. Just because someone wasn't on at the exact time you were doesn't mean nobody uses it. The day is broad and believe it or not but not everyone has your daily cycle and logs in at the exact times you do.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald3 days ago
+Crypto Database This makes no sense at all. What does Runescape's number of accounts, or number of players viewing Runescape's forum have to do with anything? Runescape has nothing to do with hyper or Dragon Knight. Runescape is a successful mmorpg with a huge following and its own currency coins.
Runescape's forum and whole community is way more active than Dragon Knight's by far. There are under 530 people active on Dragon Knight as you say... why would people want to play this game over other mmorpgs like Wow, Guild Wars 2, or Final Fantasy where there is an actual community?
This game Dragon Knight is just a shell game set up to create the illusion that there are actual game devs and gamers around hyper. It's all an illusion! There isn't a large hyper gaming community, it's a small handful of people barely playing. Hyper isn't innovative at all, and it only exists to pay off the developers and traders when someone new invests in it.
It is not true that only a small number of gamers are social and take part in forums and chat. Are you living under a rock? The players at Dragon Knight don't communicate because they don't care about the game or their community. It's more like a faucet giving them free coins than a real game. They would stop playing the game if they were not being payed cents to play. It's a complete racket.
This is why it's a shame Jon Fitch is involved in this because he does simply not know any better, and doesn't even play games as he said. It's really a terrible thing you're trying to pull and I will not stand for this coin soiling Jon Fitch's name, it is not right, and someone has to stand up to this. God forbid some Jon Fitch MMA fan invests in hyper and gets scammed.
Over and over again you see the people creating these games like Dragon Knight, and the currency hyper are all anonymous entities because when push comes to shove and they scam everyone out of their money they can disappear. Don't fall for it.
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Jeremiah Nichol
Jeremiah Nichol3 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald We've been here for 2 years. If this was a scam then the dev would have dropped off the earth in Dec. 2015 when it crashed. Well...he's here and we've built a team. Besides Jon Fitch has been into HYPER since it began really. He's BEEN a part of the community for a long time dude. It is small but growing and we have fun tossin' ideas around and helping gamers game on indie platforms. Just chill. You don't have to be so negative. The pump and dump as you are describing would have been done and over with in a matter of a month or two after it launched 2 years ago. Well...it didn't go away. So leave it and us alone if you don't like it.
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Crypto Database
Crypto Database2 days ago
+Ronald Mcdonald DKV was created before I even knew about HYPER and has more than just that currency in the game so your suggestion that it is just a shell game is ridiculous. You stated that nobody played it based off of the forum stats and when I proved you wrong you decide to make up even more ridiculous accusations.
Show me one other game like mine that has been created for HYPER or any other currency, the last time I checked DKV is the only game like this where you can earn Crypto for playing.
Of course it is a faucet, why else do you think I created it as a game that pays you to play? You need to use your head and think for once instead of just repeating yourself. You can't even keep up with your own nonsense.
You even thinking you know more about my game than I do is pretty amusing, you can keep thinking that but I'm pretty sure I know more about it than you do.
Bottom line is you have no idea what you are talking about and are alone in your thinking. If you don't like the coin then that's fine, feel free to check out one of the other thousands of coins out there and make your pick.
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Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald18 hours ago
+Crypto Database Stop lying and twisting the facts. I did not say "nobody plays [DKV] based off of the forum stats". I was responding to user +Bit Bit who said: "the MMO that HYPER helped sponsor development of (Dragon Knight 2) http://dknight2.com/portal/ has over 1000 players online at any one time".
This is wrong. There has never been over 1000 players online at one time on DKV according to the official DKV player stats page https://dknight2.com/index.php?do=stats . What I am saying is if you join DKV you will find there is a very small community of players, and it is misleading to make it sound like there are thousands of active players when in reality there are only hundreds.
It is dishonest to promote your game in this way. When you call it an MMORPG you must mean moderately manned open role playing game because it's surely not a massively multiplayer experience.
+Crypto Database "Show me one other game like mine integrating hyper..." There are plenty of other rpg and fantasy games available to earn hyper. You make it sound like you're the only one. From the official bitcointalk forum thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624651.msg14088552#msg14088552
1.World of Warcraft [fantasy MMORPG] https://www.cashncarry.info/servers/world-of-warcraft/wow-howtoplay
2.EVE Online [space based MMORPG] http://hypercrypto.com/eve-online/
3.Pirates, Vikings, & Knights II [free fantasy action game with rpg elements] http://hyper.microngaming.com/hlstats.php?game=pvkii
+Crypto Database "Why do you think I created it as a game that pays you to play?" The only reason you created it is to profit off of getting payed to run it, and then I'm guessing you're waiting to sell off your hyper when it increases in price as well. It's not like you're running this as a charity.
If you were interested in developing a real mmorpg you wouldn't cut corners with what is a seriously bare bones design even for a mud type game. You don't need fancy graphics to make a great rpg, but you do need devs who care. Look at a game like dwarf fortress http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ you should aspire to something like that instead of being so inactive as a developer.
The player base isn't there for DKV because the game is lacking in content and creativity. You are more concerned with running the game as a bitcoin faucet style site for profit than creating an immersive and attractive world. You get paid in hyper to run the site, right, and give out little percentages of that to players. When the price goes up you will decide to sell your hyper holdings, and move onto whatever next trendy altcoin there is to make a financial gain.
So how exactly does hyper add value to the gaming community? What can hyper do that bitcoin, or another altcoin can't? Why do we need this coin integrated in our games? Why is the hyper developer anonymous? Can you trust an anonymous entity? Why is hyper continually promising to develop a space mmo with premined funds that over two years has seen no progress, not even a playable alpha available? Did the premined hyper coins just disappear during the "development" of the space mmo, where are they? Why are you still avoiding these questions? +Crypto Database I'm not "alone in my thinking", and gamers want answers now.
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Pablo ThreeToFive
Pablo ThreeToFive16 hours ago (edited)
+Ronald Mcdonald First you argue that hyper has no users, and no games that use it... Now, you are arguing with a hyper user, and providing a list of games that use hyper. You have contradicted yourself. In your comments you have come of as ignorant and pompous. You also do not speak for all gamers. Are you just trolling for fun?
Ronald Mcdonald
Ronald Mcdonald2 hours ago
+Pablo ThreeToFive Please stop twisting and oversimplifying my words. You are simply wrong. I did not say "hyper has no users, and no games".
I called you out for exaggerating the user base numbers, and the quality of some of the games implementing hyper. I questioned why hyper was a premined currency, and where the preminded funds went. Supposedly much of the premined funds went to develop a space mmo for over two years, yet the space mmo does not appear to even exist. To this day there is no playable game that the funds supposedly went to developing for two years.
The illusion you are trying to create is that many gamers are behind this coin. You are painting the picture that many gamers are using this coin now, and many developers are creating new games integrating hyper. The truth is there are few gamers and games using hyper, and there are very few developers interested in using hyper. What are people interested in?
It appears people are more interested in hyper being a short term high risk investment vehicle than a useful gaming cryptocurrency. The problem still exists that hyper does not add anything another coin or virtual currency can't.
Now there are poorly created faucet games like Dragon Knights of Valeria, and implementations upon existing games, but still no sign of the space mmo that much of the premined coins went towards developing. Again, where are those coins now Pablo? The hyper developers are anonymous, and you cannot truly know their intentions. How can you trust an anonymous entity Pablo? They are possibly waiting for the price to go up a significant amount to slowly sell off their premined coins.
The truth is Instead of addressing these questions you are calling me "pompous and ignorant". You are not able to discuss or bring any new facts to the table, and are resorting to name calling... calling me a troll? I'm not quoting obscure resources, wikipedia, or academic articles here... I'm literally looking at the hyper bitcointalk thread, the DKV website, and the official hypercrypto website.
You don't see ANY issues with how hyper is being promoted, or hyper the gaming currency itself? There are tons of red flags:
There are not thousands of active players on DKV using hyper, this is a GROSS EXAGERATION.
There are promises of development, and currency going towards PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT BEING MADE OVER THE COURSE OF YEARS.
Where is the transparency? There is no transparency in hyper with the developers being ANONYMOUS. Who is behind this currency? We don't know. What are their intentions? We don't know. What system is there to keep them in place from doing something destructive, or manipulative? Nothing.
The icing on the cake is there really isn't much novel or useful in hyper as a cryptocurrency itself. What's the difference between hyper and any other crypto or virtual currency? The only thing hyper is useful for is as a high risk investment vehicle. You know, invest in hyper, hope other idiots invest driving the price up, and then sell off your hyper at a profit. That's a dangerous game to be playing Pablo, if that's what you're into...
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Jeremiah Nichol
Jeremiah Nichol47 minutes ago
+Ronald Mcdonald Do you even Bitcoin? Where's Satoshi's coins? We realize the same truth together. HYPER is a niche market with a niche market cap. It's our corner of the crypto world and we're working on making it better. There is one dev. He's annonymous all right. But if this was a scam he would have left a year ago. Are you done with your FUD now? Please stop.
Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics
I can't access funds in wallet either. I guess blockchain.info is not reliable, and as soon as it is up again I am going to transition to only using a desktop wallet. Goodbye forever chain head not found!
NHL: NJ Devils Backup Keith Kinkaid has allowed 10 goals in his last two starts. In NJ Devils last 5 games they are 1-4, and all 4 losses were by more than two goals. I'm betting against this goalie Kinkaid, betting 0.001 BTC on Sharks -1.5 goals @2.25 odds:
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/951a193SEZqMlJyNUVGMmpPaHRQeVRmdVphUT09/r/595422/
http://www.flashscore.com/match/YV1HuEFe/#match-summary
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Sharks already down 0-2. What's happening? For starters the Sharks are not scoring. Sharks-Devils shots (26-15), Faceoffs (22-23), and the Devils scored in the 2nd period with only 3 shots, and the Devils scored in the 3rd period with only 5 shots. They've made 2 goals in 8 shots, pretty efficient. I don't understand how the game is unfolding and I need to look more into NHL stats. What NHL advanced stats are important to understanding games? There is one thing I did just notice:
This year...
Devils win 51% of their games OT included
Devils win 48.5% of their games at home OT included
Devils win 51.6% of their games on the road OT included
Sharks win 60% of their games OT included
Sharks win 45.5% of their games at home OT included
Sharks win 70% of their games on the road OT included
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-home-and-away-winning-percentages/2015/
Devils win more of their away games than Sharks win home games... Sharks seem to perform worse at home. Why, I have no clue. Devils win 51.6% of their games on the road... Sharks win 45.5% of their games at home. The prematch odds OT Included were Sharks @1.39, Devils @3.26. So according to their season win %s the Devils should have been the play.
I guess the NJ backup goalie Kinkaid is having a good game, and I was mislead by him giving up 10 goals in his last two starts. He's going on a shutout right now. I don't know about his surrounding cast, if they were different for those games. I was wrong about him and the Devils. This is not something that happens often... the announcer just said it's been TWENTY YEARS since the Devils last shut out the Sharks.
I need to make serious adjustments.
profit (-0.0095 BTC)
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/951a193SEZqMlJyNUVGMmpPaHRQeVRmdVphUT09/r/595422/
http://www.flashscore.com/match/YV1HuEFe/#match-summary
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Sharks already down 0-2. What's happening? For starters the Sharks are not scoring. Sharks-Devils shots (26-15), Faceoffs (22-23), and the Devils scored in the 2nd period with only 3 shots, and the Devils scored in the 3rd period with only 5 shots. They've made 2 goals in 8 shots, pretty efficient. I don't understand how the game is unfolding and I need to look more into NHL stats. What NHL advanced stats are important to understanding games? There is one thing I did just notice:
This year...
Devils win 51% of their games OT included
Devils win 48.5% of their games at home OT included
Devils win 51.6% of their games on the road OT included
Sharks win 60% of their games OT included
Sharks win 45.5% of their games at home OT included
Sharks win 70% of their games on the road OT included
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-home-and-away-winning-percentages/2015/
Devils win more of their away games than Sharks win home games... Sharks seem to perform worse at home. Why, I have no clue. Devils win 51.6% of their games on the road... Sharks win 45.5% of their games at home. The prematch odds OT Included were Sharks @1.39, Devils @3.26. So according to their season win %s the Devils should have been the play.
I guess the NJ backup goalie Kinkaid is having a good game, and I was mislead by him giving up 10 goals in his last two starts. He's going on a shutout right now. I don't know about his surrounding cast, if they were different for those games. I was wrong about him and the Devils. This is not something that happens often... the announcer just said it's been TWENTY YEARS since the Devils last shut out the Sharks.
I need to make serious adjustments.
profit (-0.0095 BTC)
NHL: Minnesota has won their last two games with Edmonton this year. Edmonton is the bottom team in the Western Conference of the NHL. Minnesota's Kuemper 2.28 GAA at home, Oilers Talbot outstanding 1.19 GAA streak over 5 recent games (with exception of Sharks game), but against Minnesota Talbot is 0-2 and 4.13 GAA. I am betting against Talbot playing in Minnesota, and I figure he will fail to win in Minnesota yet again if not because his performance, because of his team. Betting 0.00155 BTC on the Minnesota Wild @1.561 odds: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/8b5c759MDNLOGF2dXJtUlRZQ3c3cGtMTW9Sdz09/r/595422/
http://www.flashscore.com/match/jaUDZf6l/#match-summary
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Minnesota lost a close 1-2 game. Allowing only 2 goals is a great job by Kuemper. Minnesota and the Devils had about even shots (30-25), and about even blocked shots (15-18). Minnesota dominated faceoffs (40-15). Minnesota only committed 2 penalties to the Devil's 4, but Minnesota went 0-4 on the power play. The game was tied until about 7 minutes left when the Devils actually won a faceoff which quickly turned into a 2v2 iso into a good shot beating the goalie. Minnesota had a power play directly after but their offense was apparently asleep tonight. Ultimately their offense failed to click against a team that is not very good, if you look at their 5v5 stats the Oilers are 3rd from the bottom: http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/teamstats.php?db=201516&sit=5v5&disp=1&sortdir=DESC&sort=GFPCT
So what other reasons are there for Minnesota losing aside from simply being outscored? I'm not sure. I need to think about what affects the outcome of a hockey game. I don't know the players, so I don't know if the lineups who started are better or worse than any other day. If anyone is unhealthy or injured I just did not know. I know that Minnesota is barely out of a playoff spot, and they do have motivation to win games to get into that spot. I'm having trouble understanding this result still. I guess NHL hockey teams are close to each other in overall skill, and I suppose that any team can beat another on any night. That's almost giving in though and saying oh it's just random results, it's the way the puck bounces, roulette on ice... scratch that jazz.
How often do NHL teams win this year? (Warning, this is painful to read, was just trying to put down my thought process, skip to bold for conclusion.) So far this season home teams win 42% of the time, draws happen 23% of the time, and away teams win 35% of the time. Right now the best record is the Washington Capitals who are 49-18, so they win 73% of the time. The bottom of the standings is the Winnipeg Jets at 27-40, so they win 40% of the time. Tonight's bet Wild-Oilers, what are their records? Wild are 31-37, so they win 48% of the time. Oliers are 27-43, so they win 38.5% of the time... and these stats are including overtime. Let's look at regulation time: Minnesota is 29-27 in regulation--(win 42.6%), and have 12 draws (17% of the time) (lose 40.4%). Oilers are 16-36 in regulation--(win 22%), and have 18 draws (25% of the time) (lose 53%). The prematch odds on the game were Wild @1.92, Draw @3.97, Oilers @3.74. The overround is 2.13% so implied probabilities for regulation time are: Wild (49.49%), Draw (26.03%), Oilers (24.48%). The implied odds are very similar to their season averages. It seems that to take the Draw and Oilers there is a significantly better chance of this happening according to their season averages: as we looked up above, Wild win in regulation 42.6% of the time, so the draw and opposing team win 57.4% of the time. The implied chance of draw and Oilers is 50.11% which is 7.29% less likely than the season average (57.4%). If the current season average is truly an accurate indicator of Minnesota's performance then there's a +7.29% chance of Draw and Oilers occurring that is not accounted for correctly. Draw and Oilers has value as a bet because there's a greater chance of it occurring (according to the season average) than the sportsbook odds suggest... possibly we should have bet that instead!
Nhl wins info from http://www.betexplorer.com/hockey/usa/nhl/
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http://www.flashscore.com/match/jaUDZf6l/#match-summary
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Minnesota lost a close 1-2 game. Allowing only 2 goals is a great job by Kuemper. Minnesota and the Devils had about even shots (30-25), and about even blocked shots (15-18). Minnesota dominated faceoffs (40-15). Minnesota only committed 2 penalties to the Devil's 4, but Minnesota went 0-4 on the power play. The game was tied until about 7 minutes left when the Devils actually won a faceoff which quickly turned into a 2v2 iso into a good shot beating the goalie. Minnesota had a power play directly after but their offense was apparently asleep tonight. Ultimately their offense failed to click against a team that is not very good, if you look at their 5v5 stats the Oilers are 3rd from the bottom: http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/teamstats.php?db=201516&sit=5v5&disp=1&sortdir=DESC&sort=GFPCT
So what other reasons are there for Minnesota losing aside from simply being outscored? I'm not sure. I need to think about what affects the outcome of a hockey game. I don't know the players, so I don't know if the lineups who started are better or worse than any other day. If anyone is unhealthy or injured I just did not know. I know that Minnesota is barely out of a playoff spot, and they do have motivation to win games to get into that spot. I'm having trouble understanding this result still. I guess NHL hockey teams are close to each other in overall skill, and I suppose that any team can beat another on any night. That's almost giving in though and saying oh it's just random results, it's the way the puck bounces, roulette on ice... scratch that jazz.
How often do NHL teams win this year? (Warning, this is painful to read, was just trying to put down my thought process, skip to bold for conclusion.) So far this season home teams win 42% of the time, draws happen 23% of the time, and away teams win 35% of the time. Right now the best record is the Washington Capitals who are 49-18, so they win 73% of the time. The bottom of the standings is the Winnipeg Jets at 27-40, so they win 40% of the time. Tonight's bet Wild-Oilers, what are their records? Wild are 31-37, so they win 48% of the time. Oliers are 27-43, so they win 38.5% of the time... and these stats are including overtime. Let's look at regulation time: Minnesota is 29-27 in regulation--(win 42.6%), and have 12 draws (17% of the time) (lose 40.4%). Oilers are 16-36 in regulation--(win 22%), and have 18 draws (25% of the time) (lose 53%). The prematch odds on the game were Wild @1.92, Draw @3.97, Oilers @3.74. The overround is 2.13% so implied probabilities for regulation time are: Wild (49.49%), Draw (26.03%), Oilers (24.48%). The implied odds are very similar to their season averages. It seems that to take the Draw and Oilers there is a significantly better chance of this happening according to their season averages: as we looked up above, Wild win in regulation 42.6% of the time, so the draw and opposing team win 57.4% of the time. The implied chance of draw and Oilers is 50.11% which is 7.29% less likely than the season average (57.4%). If the current season average is truly an accurate indicator of Minnesota's performance then there's a +7.29% chance of Draw and Oilers occurring that is not accounted for correctly. Draw and Oilers has value as a bet because there's a greater chance of it occurring (according to the season average) than the sportsbook odds suggest... possibly we should have bet that instead!
Nhl wins info from http://www.betexplorer.com/hockey/usa/nhl/
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I hope for you that Wickmayer wins, but if you watched those girls play you'd know that this match is total coin-flip, odds should be 1.85:1.85 or something. Lol, ok i'll stop annoying you with my stupid comments.
I don't mind it at all! The whole reason I made a thread instead of just a word document is to hopefully have conversation, and learn about what I'm doing right/wrong and share it.
First off a coin flip is 50/50. A bookmaker would not give you 50/50 odds on the flip. Bookmakers charge you an amount for taking your bet. This commission for running the sportsbook is called the vigorish, vig, or juice. Instead of the coinflip being 2.00/2.00 odds the sportsbook will charge 10% vig and the odds will become 1.9/1.9. We want to bet at sportsbooks with the best odds to get the highest payout possible on our bet. If the same odds are being offered on an event across all sportsbooks (which is not the case usually) then the best odds will be the place with the least vig. Since there is not an even amount of money being bet at all books, and books adjust their lines independently (some being slower or quicker to adjust for changes in odds), there's often a huge difference in the odds between events.
Anyway, considering all this above... if Wick-Hercog was 50-50 the true odds would be 2.00/2.00. If a sportsbook had a 5% vig then it'd be 1.95/1.95. Looking at the available odds prematch for Wick-Hercog:
http://www.oddsportal.com/tennis/usa/wta-indian-wells/hercog-polona-wickmayer-yanina-trfpSjn3/
At Pinnacle Wick opened around @1.61 and closed @1.55; Hercog opened @2.45 and closed @2.61. If the true odds of either winning was 50/50, then Hercog would be the better play hands down. Bet Hercog every time if this is the case, and in the long run over many games this would be profitable.
The whole damn tricky thing is determining what the true odds of an event occurring are. Wick-Hercog can't be 50/50. Tennis can be a sport where it's one person versus another, so it should be easier to examine than team sports. If two people are equal in every way then they will be 50/50 to win. The problem is that no one's equal, and their abilities change over time, and through different conditions. People have flaws, advantages and disadvantages. I suppose you would have to think about every possible variable in a match, and then test to see if those variables really matter in the outcome.
I know that people create models to predict the outcome of a match, but I don't really know what goes into making one. It would be cool to learn how to make one, and check if it is effective or not. If you made one you would need to feed it data all of the time that you get from somewhere. It would be a huge hassle to manually enter it all so you would need some way of automatically getting it, or hiring someone to get it. At some point the model is going to be like the mouse--if you give a mouse a cookie, it's going to ask for some milk as well. Then he'll ask for a straw. He'll finish and ask for a napkin, then a mirror to check if he has a milk mustache... the last thing you need is a model with a milk mustache. Irregardless of potential challenges it's something that would be awesome to look into.
Tennis: The majority of Yanina Wickmayer's matches are on hard court (174-111 hard only record). Today she's playing vs Polona Hercog who plays the majority of her matches on clay court (200-79 clay only record). Yet when you look at Hercog's hard court history you find she does not win win nearly as many matches--less than 50% (85-92 hc record).
They have never played each other before, but today they are playing in the first round of WTA Indian Wells. I am predicting Wickmayer will win because she has performed well on hard court in the past, while Hercog simply has not. Betting 0.001 BTC on Wickmayer @1.548 odds: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3873b04K2p1R2ZnSEFnWkRaU2MrUG9QVk8wQT09/r/595422/
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1415623
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Wickmayer won 2-1. She lost the first set 0-6, then won the next two 6-4, 6-4. I wonder why she lost the first set 0-6? Maybe tennis players can conserve energy by conceding a set when down. Is it worth holding a serve in a losing set? I'm not familiar with the strategy, if it is one, and I wonder what players employ this strategy often?
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They have never played each other before, but today they are playing in the first round of WTA Indian Wells. I am predicting Wickmayer will win because she has performed well on hard court in the past, while Hercog simply has not. Betting 0.001 BTC on Wickmayer @1.548 odds: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3873b04K2p1R2ZnSEFnWkRaU2MrUG9QVk8wQT09/r/595422/
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1415623
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Wickmayer won 2-1. She lost the first set 0-6, then won the next two 6-4, 6-4. I wonder why she lost the first set 0-6? Maybe tennis players can conserve energy by conceding a set when down. Is it worth holding a serve in a losing set? I'm not familiar with the strategy, if it is one, and I wonder what players employ this strategy often?
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I think it's essential to watch actual matches live, sometimes you can feel in your gut if certain player or team can beat the other if you watched them long enough before, no stats will give you that.
I agree when watching a sport sometimes you can just intuitively see things. Sometimes you can get better odds than you would have had prematch. You can see how the players are actually performing on the day as opposed to guessing. I've not tried live betting much yet. Maybe I will experiment with it more. I see that Nitrogen Sports is great for betting prematch, but has limited live betting options. Other sites like Direct Bet, BetCoin, and CloudBet seem to have more options during play. Anybody: what is the best BTC sportsbook for live betting?
On the flip side one nice thing about betting is you don't have to always watch the game. If you are betting many, many games it might not be possible to watch, or you might not have access to a live stream of the event. It might even be not interesting to watch. You don't like the sport, the game's not competitive, you have more important things to do with your time, but hey it's still possible to take a position on a game where you believe the odds are favorable and get paid if you are correct.
While watching a game I would be concerned about errors in short term decision making, emotions playing a part of that. When you're watching a tennis match and identifying with a player, or a display of skill they just put on, maybe it's possible to be blinded and take an unreasonable position.
Games change so dynamically with seconds being the difference between goal and near miss. If you are caught in heat of the moment, and asking yourself "is this the right time to place my wager?", you really need to know what you are doing, analyze the situation now, analyze if the odds are favorable now, predict what you think is going to happen in the near future with the game situation/odds--all of this almost instantly before the next game changing event affects the odds again.
In other words you have less time to think. Time could be your enemy. Every second the odds are changing as a match progresses. Whether they are changing in your favor or not has to be repeatedly assessed. When should you close out your position/hedge and guarantee a certain loss or profit, and when should you let the bet ride until the conclusion of the event? It just gets so complex as you're working against time... well, I guess it only gets complex if you make it complex.
Soccer (Romania, Cupa Ligii): Concordia has only scored one goal in its last 4 games, and are just in terrible form. In addition Dinamo Bucuresti has held a dominant record against Concordia as well (9 wins, 3 draws, and only 1 loss). Betting 0.001 BTC on Dinamo Bucuresti:
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/dad2712cjR4RWZsLzZRbERraVFFV0dHY3NFZz09/r/595422/
http://www.flashscore.com/match/SYfojg0j/#match-summary
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Concordia is up 3-0. What happened? Concordia was more efficient, scored 3 goals on only 7 attempts on goal. Concordia/Dinamo had equal possession (51-49), Dinamo slightly more shots on goal attempted (7-12), Dinamo had many more corners (1-9), yet Concordia had 5 saves on goal, and Dinamo had 0 saves.
These stats do not do a good enough job at explaining how Concordia achieved this result. I don't know what happened, and I don't understand how I can gain an understanding of what happened only from the stats on flashscore. There is so much that happens during a game that is not recorded. What is important that isn't being recorded? Then, looking at what is actually recorded, the stats can sometimes show what happened, yet other times they can be downright unimportant or misleading. Even if they are perfectly good, if I don't correctly interpret what the numbers mean then I'm in trouble.
Something is going terribly wrong in how I am analyzing soccer matches. I need to think about what I am doing wrong, and clearly identify it so I can at least begin to change how I am going about things.
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https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/dad2712cjR4RWZsLzZRbERraVFFV0dHY3NFZz09/r/595422/
http://www.flashscore.com/match/SYfojg0j/#match-summary
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Concordia is up 3-0. What happened? Concordia was more efficient, scored 3 goals on only 7 attempts on goal. Concordia/Dinamo had equal possession (51-49), Dinamo slightly more shots on goal attempted (7-12), Dinamo had many more corners (1-9), yet Concordia had 5 saves on goal, and Dinamo had 0 saves.
These stats do not do a good enough job at explaining how Concordia achieved this result. I don't know what happened, and I don't understand how I can gain an understanding of what happened only from the stats on flashscore. There is so much that happens during a game that is not recorded. What is important that isn't being recorded? Then, looking at what is actually recorded, the stats can sometimes show what happened, yet other times they can be downright unimportant or misleading. Even if they are perfectly good, if I don't correctly interpret what the numbers mean then I'm in trouble.
Something is going terribly wrong in how I am analyzing soccer matches. I need to think about what I am doing wrong, and clearly identify it so I can at least begin to change how I am going about things.
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NHL: The LA Kings are the lowest scoring team in the Western Conference, and second lowest scoring team in all the NHL, scoring an average of 4.8 goals per match. The Washington Captials have had their last 5 games in a row go under 5.5 goals.
WSH goalie HOLTBY: 2.28 GAA, and LA goalie QUICK: 2.24 GAA.
I expect there to be few goals in the match, so I am risking 0.001 BTC on under 4.5 goals @2.59 odds:
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/ee2b477NDBZTkwzSmFoWTJOR2h5WjhzQXdWZz09/r/595422/
http://www.flashscore.com/match/Q5b9szoq/#match-summary
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LA Kings opened the first period quickly scoring three goals. Holtby did not play well. The huge deficit changed the dynamic of the game, and Washington took more risks going forward. Somehow they came back from 0-3 in the third period with three goals of their own taking the game into OT.
Both teams did not perform to their average past performance as they let in more goals. Maybe it is wrong of me to expect a player or team to perform to their average past performance. There has to be more of a range a team/player is expected to play in. I suppose I did not consider the range of possible performance, and the range of probable performance of both teams. What are a team's/player's limits? What are the capable of, what are they not capable of? These are questions I need to consider more.
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WSH goalie HOLTBY: 2.28 GAA, and LA goalie QUICK: 2.24 GAA.
I expect there to be few goals in the match, so I am risking 0.001 BTC on under 4.5 goals @2.59 odds:
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/ee2b477NDBZTkwzSmFoWTJOR2h5WjhzQXdWZz09/r/595422/
http://www.flashscore.com/match/Q5b9szoq/#match-summary
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LA Kings opened the first period quickly scoring three goals. Holtby did not play well. The huge deficit changed the dynamic of the game, and Washington took more risks going forward. Somehow they came back from 0-3 in the third period with three goals of their own taking the game into OT.
Both teams did not perform to their average past performance as they let in more goals. Maybe it is wrong of me to expect a player or team to perform to their average past performance. There has to be more of a range a team/player is expected to play in. I suppose I did not consider the range of possible performance, and the range of probable performance of both teams. What are a team's/player's limits? What are the capable of, what are they not capable of? These are questions I need to consider more.
profit (-0.0065 btc)
Tennis live bet: Langer is 7-0 H2H against Krawietz, and today prematch Langer ml was ~1.4 odds.
He just lost the first set to Krawietz, but considering he has not lost to Krawietz in 7 matches I like his chances with the odds @2.65.
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1415010
Risking 0.0015 BTC on Nils Langer ml @2.65 odds:
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/84c7fc9VXpTODlNdTg2VjhlTFpSQ0ZPTjZudz09/r/595422/
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Langer did not care very much in the second set, and didn't appear to give an honest effort. I guess there was somewhere else he wanted to be instead of this small Chinese tournament.
At this rate I will get to 1 negative BTC in no time. Don't go chasing waterfalls...
Profit (-0.0055 BTC)
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After further investigation this was the first match Langer had played in over 21 days. In his last match he retired down 4-2 in the first set. This should have been a gigantic warning sign! He retired in his last match, and couldn't make it out of the first set. There is no explanation of his reason for retiring. Wait, it gets better...
Langer's last match:
13.02.2016, Wroclaw challenger, 1st Round qualifying, Langer- 4-2 first set, retired
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1407187
After this match he played the challenger match in China (Zhuhai) that I bet on and lost in the first round.
Go back one year:
14.02.2015, Wroclaw challenger, 1st Round qualifying, Langer retired
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1282831
After this he played two challenger matches in China (Guangzhou, Shenzhen) and lost both in the first round.
Weird how similar the results are, and I'm not entirely sure what they mean. It is super interesting to think about player motivation. Maybe there are times of the year, areas of the world, or certain tournaments where a player is more likely to retire, tank, lose on purpose for various reasons. If a player retired in their last match be wary of betting on them. Are they healthy, are they motivated, how can you even know?
He just lost the first set to Krawietz, but considering he has not lost to Krawietz in 7 matches I like his chances with the odds @2.65.
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1415010
Risking 0.0015 BTC on Nils Langer ml @2.65 odds:
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/84c7fc9VXpTODlNdTg2VjhlTFpSQ0ZPTjZudz09/r/595422/
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Langer did not care very much in the second set, and didn't appear to give an honest effort. I guess there was somewhere else he wanted to be instead of this small Chinese tournament.
At this rate I will get to 1 negative BTC in no time. Don't go chasing waterfalls...
Profit (-0.0055 BTC)
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After further investigation this was the first match Langer had played in over 21 days. In his last match he retired down 4-2 in the first set. This should have been a gigantic warning sign! He retired in his last match, and couldn't make it out of the first set. There is no explanation of his reason for retiring. Wait, it gets better...
Langer's last match:
13.02.2016, Wroclaw challenger, 1st Round qualifying, Langer- 4-2 first set, retired
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1407187
After this match he played the challenger match in China (Zhuhai) that I bet on and lost in the first round.
Go back one year:
14.02.2015, Wroclaw challenger, 1st Round qualifying, Langer retired
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/match-detail/?id=1282831
After this he played two challenger matches in China (Guangzhou, Shenzhen) and lost both in the first round.
Weird how similar the results are, and I'm not entirely sure what they mean. It is super interesting to think about player motivation. Maybe there are times of the year, areas of the world, or certain tournaments where a player is more likely to retire, tank, lose on purpose for various reasons. If a player retired in their last match be wary of betting on them. Are they healthy, are they motivated, how can you even know?
NCAAB: BYU averages 83.6 points per game, and Gonzaga averages 79.3 points per game.
Yet their last two meetings they have held eachother much lower:
2/27/16 GON 71-68: line for total was 155.5, ended 139
1/14/16 BYU 69-68 GON: line for total was 162.5, ended 137
For today's game the total is at 150... still too high?
BYU plays an uptempo style with a lot of three point attempts. Gonzaga has good 3pt shot defense, better defense in general. Gonzaga has held 12 straight opponents under 70 points.
The game is a TV game on ESPN2 and is being played on a neutral court at Orleans Las Vegas. The total for the game opened at 151.5 and is down to 150. The total has gone UNDER in 10 of BYU's last 12 games when playing Gonzaga.
I'm predicting that since it is a big game on ESPN2, and in Vegas, it's assumed people are betting on the favorite Gonzaga -3 and the over 150.5 total. Their last two meetings this year were only decided by three points, could've gone either way, yet the total was off by over 15 points both times this year!
I'm assuming the total is inflated again, and am risking 0.002 BTC on the under 150.5 @1.98 odds: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/0ebaa0cVkFQTDZKaXNSQlUzR3kzbVRWSmJEQT09/r/595422
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400870250
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O/U line for first half was 71... and they scored 94 points in the first half. 94 points!
Projected total for the game is now 184! Again, I am very wrong.
The lines for the totals are so inaccurate; this is interesting at least. I need to learn how to calculate totals as an experiment and compare to the existing lines.
Also I found out Nitrogen Sports does not provide 2nd half totals on NCAA basketball games (also NBA). Why don't they? Is there a reason?
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Yet their last two meetings they have held eachother much lower:
2/27/16 GON 71-68: line for total was 155.5, ended 139
1/14/16 BYU 69-68 GON: line for total was 162.5, ended 137
For today's game the total is at 150... still too high?
BYU plays an uptempo style with a lot of three point attempts. Gonzaga has good 3pt shot defense, better defense in general. Gonzaga has held 12 straight opponents under 70 points.
The game is a TV game on ESPN2 and is being played on a neutral court at Orleans Las Vegas. The total for the game opened at 151.5 and is down to 150. The total has gone UNDER in 10 of BYU's last 12 games when playing Gonzaga.
I'm predicting that since it is a big game on ESPN2, and in Vegas, it's assumed people are betting on the favorite Gonzaga -3 and the over 150.5 total. Their last two meetings this year were only decided by three points, could've gone either way, yet the total was off by over 15 points both times this year!
I'm assuming the total is inflated again, and am risking 0.002 BTC on the under 150.5 @1.98 odds: https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/0ebaa0cVkFQTDZKaXNSQlUzR3kzbVRWSmJEQT09/r/595422
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400870250
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O/U line for first half was 71... and they scored 94 points in the first half. 94 points!
Projected total for the game is now 184! Again, I am very wrong.
The lines for the totals are so inaccurate; this is interesting at least. I need to learn how to calculate totals as an experiment and compare to the existing lines.
Also I found out Nitrogen Sports does not provide 2nd half totals on NCAA basketball games (also NBA). Why don't they? Is there a reason?
profit (-0.004 BTC)