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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 06/08/2025, 16:46:44 UTC
Any luck so far? @the rise
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 31/07/2025, 07:43:14 UTC
i doubt they ll ever reply you. did the same with me a while ago. they basically just deleted all my winnings cos of the reason` professional betting style` lol
This sounds absolutely ridiculous. But for my case, they say that I am "exploiting" and refuses to elaborate further. I guess we are on the same boat.


Here's another update from BK8, they approached me directly and is forcing me to withdraw just my deposit, and then close my account. I never agreed to it and I explicitly mentioned that I will not withdraw, just so that they can keep my account open, but they refused. It feels like they’re trying to quietly wipe the balance and move on, without transparency or due process. I’ve also explicitly given consent in the forum to share logs for investigation, but they continue to ignore that.

https://imgur.com/a/ZUPk0wm

Is this considered fair treatment? They’re pushing me to walk away from winnings without even basic evidence or audit, and I just wanted a transparent review. I’m open to mediation or further discussion, but this looks like a silent denial of accountability. Please, any advice or support is much appreciated.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 29/07/2025, 01:40:45 UTC
Hi everyone, just a quick update on my case.

I followed up with BK8 directly on Telegram, but they have now stated that they are unable to provide any betting logs or evidence, even though I’ve given them consent to share all of my betting history.
https://imgur.com/a/qzzw9y7

At this point, it feels like I’m hitting a wall. There’s no transparency and no willingness to back up their accusations.

I noticed that in previous scam accusation here, BK8 was literally begging DT members to review their evidence to clear their name. But now, they go silent and hide behind vague terms like “security” and “final decision.”

Hi Every one. Let see this. As i said before. They are really scam site. I sent my documents. But they said my documents fake. That is not true. My document is legit. Can check by any way.
BK8 allow deposit with cypto and bank. That is not problem. I can deposit any amount i want.  And I play all game fair.
My ID is approved by the Viet Nam Govement. And it not fake. It can be check. All BK8 said not true, and lies...
This is not about what game you play and cheating or not, but forging KYC documents is the main problem
you can say I'm not telling the truth many times, but I have the eviden that your KYC is fake

If you are a DT member, don't hesitate to ask
I will send the proof via PM


Is BK8 just avoiding scrutiny? Or are they looking for a forum member to mediate like before?
Would really appreciate advice or insight from anyone who’s dealt with similar cases.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 28/07/2025, 04:09:48 UTC
Hi @BK8.Official, it has now been almost a week since your last response. Any updates on the evidence and full betting logs regarding my case?
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 24/07/2025, 11:59:17 UTC
Hi @BitcoinGirl.Club, I mentioned it was similar to card counting, but in terms of using observation and timing, not exploiting hidden flaws in the system. Do correct me if I'm wrong, card counting is not illegal, but it was frowned upon by the casinos (sometimes getting paid then kicked out, depends on where you are). It requires mental calculation, tracking, and efforts to be put into it to be effective.

In my case, my bets were based entirely on publicly visible, real-time Binance BTC/USDT prices displayed directly in the game. There’s no mental calculation, bug, or secret knowledge, it is just reacting to a live market pattern (I did mention my strategy in this thread, so you can refer to that).

Simply, I played the game as designed. If simply winning too much is treated as proof of cheating, then every successful player is at risk, because that undermines trust in any platform.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 24/07/2025, 10:03:23 UTC
If you can prove a real exploit, then we can realise the situation. In that circumstance, the user may agree to get back their initial deposits, though I am not sure if he will agree.
To answer your question @The Cryptovator, I am willing to let BK8 to keep my deposit if they can prove with actual evidence that they claimed I was involved with an "exploit".

BK8 was informed by the BinanceBet provider that an exploit occurred between July 1–2, which compromised the fairness and integrity of the game. As a result, the provider made the decision to void all game results, winnings, and records from that period. This action affected all users who placed bets during the exploit window, regardless of intent.
If the issue happens with the provider, then some other players should be affected. Also some other gambling platforms that use the same provider would be affected. But still now we haven't seen such allegations here yet. Also, I've never heard about such an exploit recently. Can you please show more details about that exploit? Gamblers are actually dealing with you, not dealing with the provider. We can't trust based on your opinion, so provide solid and reasonable sources.
As you have pointed out, if there was an "exploit" happened on July 1-2, it would be a massive incident. Especially since the game is based on the live Binance price feed involving BTC/USDT Market. Yet, there's no news covering this in the media.
https://imgur.com/a/hF9x0U1

@BK8.Official, if you stand by your accusations, then please share the proof here:
1. Show what exact “exploit” was performed
2. Show my betting logs

I give full consent to you in releasing all my logs and game activity publicly. If you cannot do that, then it’s clear you’re basing this decision on vague claims without transparency or accountability. Withholding both my deposit and winnings, without evidence of wrongdoing, is not just unethical, it’s theft.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 22/07/2025, 08:23:43 UTC
I also have a question regarding this part:
We also reached out to the provider to ask if any form of compensation would be offered due to the incident. Unfortunately, they confirmed that no compensation would be provided.
Why is BK8 asking the game provider to offer compensation to me, when the winnings from game provider's wallet had already been transferred into my BK8 main wallet? At that point, isn’t it BK8, as the licensed and regulated operator, who holds the responsibility of paying out player balances? Isn't BK8 the actual custodian of player funds?

If the provider had a design issue, that’s an internal matter between BK8 and the provider. It shouldn’t be pushed onto players after the fact, especially without clear evidence of wrongdoing.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 22/07/2025, 08:05:49 UTC
Thank you, @BK8.Official, for responding publicly.

And thanks @TravelMug for voicing a very valid point.

I want to clarify again that I simply observed patterns in a publicly available, live game and made bets accordingly, like card counting in blackjack or trend analysis in trading. This is not cheating; it’s strategic.

The game in question was open and available to everyone. It had no notice of malfunction, and bets were accepted normally. At first, I was able to transfer my winnings from the  game provider's wallet to BK8 main wallet successfully. I attempted to withdraw on the first day, then on the second day, my account was suspended and everything voided, without showing specific proof of any "irregular play."

BK8 is not just a channel. It is the licensed host of the platform, and with that comes the responsibility to ensure the fairness, transparency, and accountability of the games offered. Players have no direct relationship with the game provider. We trust and play on BK8, not on the backend service. I believe BK8 should take responsibility for resolving this fairly, rather than passing the final decision to the provider.

If a game was poorly designed or not resilient to certain strategies, that should fall under the provider’s responsibility, not the player's. Voiding bets retroactively after a win sets a dangerous precedent where players are only allowed to lose.

I believe in fairness, and I respect BK8’s previous reputation. I still hope for a reconsideration or at least more transparency on what exactly is being labeled an "exploit."
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 19/07/2025, 17:14:52 UTC
Yeah, let's wait for BK8's response on this.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 19/07/2025, 16:04:54 UTC
In my opinion, this isn’t exploiting a flaw. It’s simply smart betting based on predictable behavior in low-volatility markets, something BK8 should have considered when designing the game or hosting the game.

Do let me know if you need further explanation on this to clear things up.

In your side it’s truly a smart betting but on the casino side it’s a flaw since they design a game that shouldn’t be beat by a strategy. Most gambling games should rely on luck when winning while in your case it’s a calculated betting like card counting on blackjack that guarantees win.

Hence you will not grow your 120$ to 80K+ if your strategy is not a sure bet.

I think BK8 need to accept their mistake on their game design and pay you assuming they will not provide substantial evidence for their decision.
I have to agree on your point of view that it is similar to card counting. It does not guarantee 100% win rate, but it does improve my odds through observation and timing. Also, on the casino side, if the game offers a pattern that's beatable, I'd see that as a design flaw as well, and not foul play on the player's side, at least in my opinion. Just like card counting, it's not cheating, it's actually being strategic within the rules and limits provided.

Hello tauyiu

I have issued to our compliance team, please be patient

Thanks
Hi BK8 rep, thanks for looking into this. I hope this will be a fair review.

I will cooperate or provide any further information you may need to resolve this.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 19/07/2025, 09:43:30 UTC
This is issue is due to their games design that can be exploit through the method that you use. You didn’t violate their game rules however I don’t know if they have terms which they are allowed to forfeit profit if they think the method is unfair which some casino included on their ToS.

But at least you should be compensated if they can’t pay you in full for finding this loophole on their game.
Hi Beparanf, I totally agree with your point where the issue is with the game design. I have gone through and read their TOS, the only thing that is applicable to this case is the part where “irregular play includes, but is not limited to...”, meaning they can just cough up any reason to suspend my account. While I believe I am entitled to the full amount, I’m open to discussing a fair settlement if BK8 steps up and communicates transparently.

I speculate that they will stick to their decision since they are protected with their ToS with that vague clause. It’s an insurance of the casino in case there’s something wrong on their game design.

You win a huge amount out of small deposits. I’m skeptical if you will get full payment or even half of it.

You need to provide a detailed evidence of your method so that user here can fully understand the nature of your strategy.
Many casinos do keep vague clauses in their Terms as a safety net, but I believe it’s important to draw a line between using it for genuine protection versus using it after the fact to justify not paying out a legitimate win. In this case, BK8 offered a game based on real-time market data, and any market will naturally go through periods of low volatility, where price movements are minimal. I simply placed bets based on the information made available by their system.

Regarding how the game works and my strategy:
The game provides a 10-second window to place bets, followed by 10 seconds to determine the “Close” value, which reflects the market’s closing price within that round. The last digit of the second decimal place of the “Close” value determines the winning number (i.e., 0 to 9). So if the “Close” is 100,000.02, then “2” wins.

I focused on two observable factors from the live feed of the game:
1) Volume – When the reported trading volume is low (around 0–5 units), it often indicates very little market activity, meaning price movement is limited.
2) Close movement pattern – During these low-volatility periods, the “Close” price tends to hover between fixed values like 100,000.01 and 100,000.02, or even stay unchanged.

When I observed this, I would bet on the two likely outcomes (in this case, digits “1” and “2”) — this isn’t manipulation or abuse. It’s pattern recognition based on available, real-time data.

In my opinion, this isn’t exploiting a flaw. It’s simply smart betting based on predictable behavior in low-volatility markets, something BK8 should have considered when designing the game or hosting the game.

Do let me know if you need further explanation on this to clear things up.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 19/07/2025, 09:10:08 UTC
Hi Shishir99, unfortunately my complaint was rejected by Casino Guru because I do not play on standard casino game (slots, poker, roulette, etc.) which they are unable to evaluate this case properly, and also rejected by AskGamblers which they've had advice me to reach out to relevant Gambling Authority (which in this case is Curacao GCB.. sigh).

Interesting. So, both mediators rejected your complaint for the same reason (they could not evaluate the case properly)? I don't remember if I have heard something like this before, but thanks for the info. I don't know if any other reliable mediator services may help you since both top-level mediators failed. Seems like you have only one option, which is reaching the relevant Gambling Authority. I would even spend money for such a large amount of money. It isn't very pleasant to see such big wins confiscated by a popular casino. They are kind of popular on the internet, but not for scamming people.
These are the responses from AG and CG . https://imgur.com/a/OyYkiuT
That's actually one of the reason I approached CM for arbitration, which unfortunately BK8 doesn't respond back to them.

As for approaching gambling authority or pursuing legal options, that would be my last resort. I am still being hopeful that BK8 will handle this properly and clarify things here in this forum, since I've never had any issue using their platform for years, until now.
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Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT
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tauyiu
on 19/07/2025, 07:19:36 UTC
I kindly ask that you review the situation and respond publicly.
I've skimmed through your post and couldn't see your account information. You need to provide your BK8 username and region so they can verify. Anyway, ignore this if you already sent it to the @BK8.Official account. The case is relatively new, involves big money, so they should take it seriously IMO.

It's crazy you won $83,000 from $120 deposit Shocked
Hi mu_enrico, original post included my username. For easier reference, I have added bk8 username and also it's region to my post, thanks for pointing it out. And yeah, the $83k from $120 was surreal. I hope they take this seriously and respond accordingly.
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Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT
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tauyiu
on 19/07/2025, 00:55:12 UTC
Hi BK8 team,

I've been suspended and winnings withheld. Despite repeated attempts to resolve this through CasinoMeister, there’s been no response.

I’ve created a scam accusation thread here for transparency and further discussion with the community:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550804.new#new

I kindly ask that you review the situation and respond publicly.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 19/07/2025, 00:38:32 UTC
It's possible that they won't see this thread, so I'll send them a PM to give them a nudge regarding this thread. You can also try posting on their ANN thread that was shared by The Cryptovator, informing them about this complaint thread.

"bet choice that had winning bias with irrational payout"
are they accusing you of value betting or something?
Hi acroman08, thanks for helping out. I'll try to post it in their ANN thread. That's the exact phrase they used, "bet choice that had winning bias with irrational payout". In my opinion, it feels like they are penalising me for winning on their system and admitting the game was poorly designed. But as a player, I just played what was offered; spotted a pattern and bet accordingly.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 18/07/2025, 16:53:14 UTC
From the explanation I read, it seems like you are legitimate and correct, I am also surprised to see this if it is true that BK8 confiscated your winnings, but we also need to hear from BK8 before making a decision.
Hi rise, I understand the need to hear both sides, and I absolutely welcome BK8 to step in and explain their position. I was using BK8 for years now and never had any issue, most likely because I lose most of the time lol.
I used to be an active user, so I was surprised to see these accusations. I'm not defending anyone here, but I'll stand by the truth. However, sometimes accounts can have issues when they win big.

Let's just wait and see what they say.
What really alarmed me was them ignoring third-party mediation from CasinoMeister. I’m still hoping BK8 will step in and clarify things soon.
Don't worry, their reputation is worth more than that. If they don't come here, maybe I can help you by contacting them publicly via ANN.

That's all I can help you with.
Thanks for your offer rise, let's give BK8 some time to respond before escalating further. Appreciate it.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 18/07/2025, 16:39:36 UTC
From the explanation I read, it seems like you are legitimate and correct, I am also surprised to see this if it is true that BK8 confiscated your winnings, but we also need to hear from BK8 before making a decision.
Hi rise, I understand the need to hear both sides, and I absolutely welcome BK8 to step in and explain their position. I was using BK8 for years now and never had any issue, most likely because I lose most of the time lol.
I used to be an active user, so I was surprised to see these accusations. I'm not defending anyone here, but I'll stand by the truth. However, sometimes accounts can have issues when they win big.

Let's just wait and see what they say.
What really alarmed me was them ignoring third-party mediation from CasinoMeister. I’m still hoping BK8 will step in and clarify things soon.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 18/07/2025, 16:23:53 UTC
From the explanation I read, it seems like you are legitimate and correct, I am also surprised to see this if it is true that BK8 confiscated your winnings, but we also need to hear from BK8 before making a decision.
Hi rise, I understand the need to hear both sides, and I absolutely welcome BK8 to step in and explain their position. I was using BK8 for years now and never had any issue, most likely because I lose most of the time lol.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 18/07/2025, 16:11:23 UTC
You can check if they are available on Casino Guru and Askgambler. Take your time to create complaint thread there as well. If a casino can steal your money, you have every rights to damage their reputation. I would love to see you get your money as soon as possible.
Hi Shishir99, unfortunately my complaint was rejected by Casino Guru because I do not play on standard casino game (slots, poker, roulette, etc.) which they are unable to evaluate this case properly, and also rejected by AskGamblers which they've had advice me to reach out to relevant Gambling Authority (which in this case is Curacao GCB.. sigh).


This is issue is due to their games design that can be exploit through the method that you use. You didn’t violate their game rules however I don’t know if they have terms which they are allowed to forfeit profit if they think the method is unfair which some casino included on their ToS.

But at least you should be compensated if they can’t pay you in full for finding this loophole on their game.
Hi Beparanf, I totally agree with your point where the issue is with the game design. I have gone through and read their TOS, the only thing that is applicable to this case is the part where “irregular play includes, but is not limited to...”, meaning they can just cough up any reason to suspend my account. While I believe I am entitled to the full amount, I’m open to discussing a fair settlement if BK8 steps up and communicates transparently.
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Re: BK8 Suspends Account and Withholding $83,000
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tauyiu
on 18/07/2025, 14:14:09 UTC
Hi Cryptovator,

I have edited the post for proper formatting, thanks for pointing it out.