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Hi @BitcoinGirl.Club, I mentioned it was similar to card counting, but in terms of using observation and timing, not exploiting hidden flaws in the system. Do correct me if I'm wrong, card counting is not illegal, but it was frowned upon by the casinos (sometimes getting paid then kicked out, depends on where you are). It requires mental calculation, tracking, and efforts to be put into it to be effective.
In my case, my bets were based entirely on publicly visible, real-time Binance BTC/USDT prices displayed directly in the game. There’s no mental calculation, bug, or secret knowledge, it is just reacting to a live market pattern (I did mention my strategy in this thread, so you can refer to that).
Simply, I played the game as designed. If simply winning too much is treated as proof of cheating, then every successful player is at risk, because that undermines trust in any platform.
In my case, my bets were based entirely on publicly visible, real-time Binance BTC/USDT prices displayed directly in the game. There’s no mental calculation, bug, or secret knowledge, it is just reacting to a live market pattern (I did mention my strategy in this thread, so you can refer to that).
Simply, I played the game as designed. If simply winning too much is treated as proof of cheating, then every successful player is at risk, because that undermines trust in any platform.
If you can prove a real exploit, then we can realise the situation. In that circumstance, the user may agree to get back their initial deposits, though I am not sure if he will agree.
To answer your question @The Cryptovator, I am willing to let BK8 to keep my deposit if they can prove with actual evidence that they claimed I was involved with an "exploit".BK8 was informed by the BinanceBet provider that an exploit occurred between July 1–2, which compromised the fairness and integrity of the game. As a result, the provider made the decision to void all game results, winnings, and records from that period. This action affected all users who placed bets during the exploit window, regardless of intent.
If the issue happens with the provider, then some other players should be affected. Also some other gambling platforms that use the same provider would be affected. But still now we haven't seen such allegations here yet. Also, I've never heard about such an exploit recently. Can you please show more details about that exploit? Gamblers are actually dealing with you, not dealing with the provider. We can't trust based on your opinion, so provide solid and reasonable sources. https://imgur.com/a/hF9x0U1
@BK8.Official, if you stand by your accusations, then please share the proof here:
1. Show what exact “exploit” was performed
2. Show my betting logs
I give full consent to you in releasing all my logs and game activity publicly. If you cannot do that, then it’s clear you’re basing this decision on vague claims without transparency or accountability. Withholding both my deposit and winnings, without evidence of wrongdoing, is not just unethical, it’s theft.
I also have a question regarding this part:
If the provider had a design issue, that’s an internal matter between BK8 and the provider. It shouldn’t be pushed onto players after the fact, especially without clear evidence of wrongdoing.
We also reached out to the provider to ask if any form of compensation would be offered due to the incident. Unfortunately, they confirmed that no compensation would be provided.
Why is BK8 asking the game provider to offer compensation to me, when the winnings from game provider's wallet had already been transferred into my BK8 main wallet? At that point, isn’t it BK8, as the licensed and regulated operator, who holds the responsibility of paying out player balances? Isn't BK8 the actual custodian of player funds?If the provider had a design issue, that’s an internal matter between BK8 and the provider. It shouldn’t be pushed onto players after the fact, especially without clear evidence of wrongdoing.
Thank you, @BK8.Official, for responding publicly.
And thanks @TravelMug for voicing a very valid point.
I want to clarify again that I simply observed patterns in a publicly available, live game and made bets accordingly, like card counting in blackjack or trend analysis in trading. This is not cheating; it’s strategic.
The game in question was open and available to everyone. It had no notice of malfunction, and bets were accepted normally. At first, I was able to transfer my winnings from the game provider's wallet to BK8 main wallet successfully. I attempted to withdraw on the first day, then on the second day, my account was suspended and everything voided, without showing specific proof of any "irregular play."
BK8 is not just a channel. It is the licensed host of the platform, and with that comes the responsibility to ensure the fairness, transparency, and accountability of the games offered. Players have no direct relationship with the game provider. We trust and play on BK8, not on the backend service. I believe BK8 should take responsibility for resolving this fairly, rather than passing the final decision to the provider.
If a game was poorly designed or not resilient to certain strategies, that should fall under the provider’s responsibility, not the player's. Voiding bets retroactively after a win sets a dangerous precedent where players are only allowed to lose.
I believe in fairness, and I respect BK8’s previous reputation. I still hope for a reconsideration or at least more transparency on what exactly is being labeled an "exploit."
And thanks @TravelMug for voicing a very valid point.
I want to clarify again that I simply observed patterns in a publicly available, live game and made bets accordingly, like card counting in blackjack or trend analysis in trading. This is not cheating; it’s strategic.
The game in question was open and available to everyone. It had no notice of malfunction, and bets were accepted normally. At first, I was able to transfer my winnings from the game provider's wallet to BK8 main wallet successfully. I attempted to withdraw on the first day, then on the second day, my account was suspended and everything voided, without showing specific proof of any "irregular play."
BK8 is not just a channel. It is the licensed host of the platform, and with that comes the responsibility to ensure the fairness, transparency, and accountability of the games offered. Players have no direct relationship with the game provider. We trust and play on BK8, not on the backend service. I believe BK8 should take responsibility for resolving this fairly, rather than passing the final decision to the provider.
If a game was poorly designed or not resilient to certain strategies, that should fall under the provider’s responsibility, not the player's. Voiding bets retroactively after a win sets a dangerous precedent where players are only allowed to lose.
I believe in fairness, and I respect BK8’s previous reputation. I still hope for a reconsideration or at least more transparency on what exactly is being labeled an "exploit."
In my opinion, this isn’t exploiting a flaw. It’s simply smart betting based on predictable behavior in low-volatility markets, something BK8 should have considered when designing the game or hosting the game.
Do let me know if you need further explanation on this to clear things up.
Do let me know if you need further explanation on this to clear things up.
In your side it’s truly a smart betting but on the casino side it’s a flaw since they design a game that shouldn’t be beat by a strategy. Most gambling games should rely on luck when winning while in your case it’s a calculated betting like card counting on blackjack that guarantees win.
Hence you will not grow your 120$ to 80K+ if your strategy is not a sure bet.
I think BK8 need to accept their mistake on their game design and pay you assuming they will not provide substantial evidence for their decision.
Hello tauyiu
I have issued to our compliance team, please be patient
Thanks
Hi BK8 rep, thanks for looking into this. I hope this will be a fair review. I have issued to our compliance team, please be patient
Thanks
I will cooperate or provide any further information you may need to resolve this.
This is issue is due to their games design that can be exploit through the method that you use. You didn’t violate their game rules however I don’t know if they have terms which they are allowed to forfeit profit if they think the method is unfair which some casino included on their ToS.
But at least you should be compensated if they can’t pay you in full for finding this loophole on their game.
Hi Beparanf, I totally agree with your point where the issue is with the game design. I have gone through and read their TOS, the only thing that is applicable to this case is the part where “irregular play includes, but is not limited to...”, meaning they can just cough up any reason to suspend my account. While I believe I am entitled to the full amount, I’m open to discussing a fair settlement if BK8 steps up and communicates transparently.But at least you should be compensated if they can’t pay you in full for finding this loophole on their game.
I speculate that they will stick to their decision since they are protected with their ToS with that vague clause. It’s an insurance of the casino in case there’s something wrong on their game design.
You win a huge amount out of small deposits. I’m skeptical if you will get full payment or even half of it.
You need to provide a detailed evidence of your method so that user here can fully understand the nature of your strategy.
Regarding how the game works and my strategy:
The game provides a 10-second window to place bets, followed by 10 seconds to determine the “Close” value, which reflects the market’s closing price within that round. The last digit of the second decimal place of the “Close” value determines the winning number (i.e., 0 to 9). So if the “Close” is 100,000.02, then “2” wins.
I focused on two observable factors from the live feed of the game:
1) Volume – When the reported trading volume is low (around 0–5 units), it often indicates very little market activity, meaning price movement is limited.
2) Close movement pattern – During these low-volatility periods, the “Close” price tends to hover between fixed values like 100,000.01 and 100,000.02, or even stay unchanged.
When I observed this, I would bet on the two likely outcomes (in this case, digits “1” and “2”) — this isn’t manipulation or abuse. It’s pattern recognition based on available, real-time data.
In my opinion, this isn’t exploiting a flaw. It’s simply smart betting based on predictable behavior in low-volatility markets, something BK8 should have considered when designing the game or hosting the game.
Do let me know if you need further explanation on this to clear things up.
Hi Shishir99, unfortunately my complaint was rejected by Casino Guru because I do not play on standard casino game (slots, poker, roulette, etc.) which they are unable to evaluate this case properly, and also rejected by AskGamblers which they've had advice me to reach out to relevant Gambling Authority (which in this case is Curacao GCB.. sigh).
Interesting. So, both mediators rejected your complaint for the same reason (they could not evaluate the case properly)? I don't remember if I have heard something like this before, but thanks for the info. I don't know if any other reliable mediator services may help you since both top-level mediators failed. Seems like you have only one option, which is reaching the relevant Gambling Authority. I would even spend money for such a large amount of money. It isn't very pleasant to see such big wins confiscated by a popular casino. They are kind of popular on the internet, but not for scamming people.
That's actually one of the reason I approached CM for arbitration, which unfortunately BK8 doesn't respond back to them.
As for approaching gambling authority or pursuing legal options, that would be my last resort. I am still being hopeful that BK8 will handle this properly and clarify things here in this forum, since I've never had any issue using their platform for years, until now.
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I kindly ask that you review the situation and respond publicly.
I've skimmed through your post and couldn't see your account information. You need to provide your BK8 username and region so they can verify. Anyway, ignore this if you already sent it to the @BK8.Official account. The case is relatively new, involves big money, so they should take it seriously IMO.It's crazy you won $83,000 from $120 deposit
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Hi BK8 team,
I've been suspended and winnings withheld. Despite repeated attempts to resolve this through CasinoMeister, there’s been no response.
I’ve created a scam accusation thread here for transparency and further discussion with the community:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550804.new#new
I kindly ask that you review the situation and respond publicly.
I've been suspended and winnings withheld. Despite repeated attempts to resolve this through CasinoMeister, there’s been no response.
I’ve created a scam accusation thread here for transparency and further discussion with the community:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550804.new#new
I kindly ask that you review the situation and respond publicly.
It's possible that they won't see this thread, so I'll send them a PM to give them a nudge regarding this thread. You can also try posting on their ANN thread that was shared by The Cryptovator, informing them about this complaint thread.
Hi acroman08, thanks for helping out. I'll try to post it in their ANN thread. That's the exact phrase they used, "bet choice that had winning bias with irrational payout". In my opinion, it feels like they are penalising me for winning on their system and admitting the game was poorly designed. But as a player, I just played what was offered; spotted a pattern and bet accordingly."bet choice that had winning bias with irrational payout"
are they accusing you of value betting or something?From the explanation I read, it seems like you are legitimate and correct, I am also surprised to see this if it is true that BK8 confiscated your winnings, but we also need to hear from BK8 before making a decision.
Hi rise, I understand the need to hear both sides, and I absolutely welcome BK8 to step in and explain their position. I was using BK8 for years now and never had any issue, most likely because I lose most of the time lol.Let's just wait and see what they say.
That's all I can help you with.
From the explanation I read, it seems like you are legitimate and correct, I am also surprised to see this if it is true that BK8 confiscated your winnings, but we also need to hear from BK8 before making a decision.
Hi rise, I understand the need to hear both sides, and I absolutely welcome BK8 to step in and explain their position. I was using BK8 for years now and never had any issue, most likely because I lose most of the time lol.Let's just wait and see what they say.
From the explanation I read, it seems like you are legitimate and correct, I am also surprised to see this if it is true that BK8 confiscated your winnings, but we also need to hear from BK8 before making a decision.
Hi rise, I understand the need to hear both sides, and I absolutely welcome BK8 to step in and explain their position. I was using BK8 for years now and never had any issue, most likely because I lose most of the time lol.You can check if they are available on Casino Guru and Askgambler. Take your time to create complaint thread there as well. If a casino can steal your money, you have every rights to damage their reputation. I would love to see you get your money as soon as possible.
Hi Shishir99, unfortunately my complaint was rejected by Casino Guru because I do not play on standard casino game (slots, poker, roulette, etc.) which they are unable to evaluate this case properly, and also rejected by AskGamblers which they've had advice me to reach out to relevant Gambling Authority (which in this case is Curacao GCB.. sigh).This is issue is due to their games design that can be exploit through the method that you use. You didn’t violate their game rules however I don’t know if they have terms which they are allowed to forfeit profit if they think the method is unfair which some casino included on their ToS.
But at least you should be compensated if they can’t pay you in full for finding this loophole on their game.
Hi Beparanf, I totally agree with your point where the issue is with the game design. I have gone through and read their TOS, the only thing that is applicable to this case is the part where “irregular play includes, but is not limited to...”, meaning they can just cough up any reason to suspend my account. While I believe I am entitled to the full amount, I’m open to discussing a fair settlement if BK8 steps up and communicates transparently.But at least you should be compensated if they can’t pay you in full for finding this loophole on their game.
Hi Cryptovator,
I have edited the post for proper formatting, thanks for pointing it out.
I have edited the post for proper formatting, thanks for pointing it out.
Deposited amount: $120 (RM500)
Disputed amount: $83,000 (RM350,000)
Username: tauyiu
Hi everyone,
I'm posting this because I feel completely helpless, and I’d really appreciate feedback or advice from the community.
Here's what happened:
I deposited $120(RM500) into BK8 and started playing one of their “live market betting” games. This game let you bet on the last digit of the BTC/USDT price feed (from Binance), with options like picking a number (0–9), odd/even, or trend up/down. The number bet paid 1:8.
I noticed that during low volatility periods (which are normal in any live market), the digits followed slightly more predictable patterns. I used that to my advantage, just observation and timing. I believe this works similarly like card-counting, it's not foolproof, because if there's even a minor movement on the market, then I will lose. Still, it gave me better odds of winning.
I wasn’t exploiting bugs or technical loopholes, just playing the game the way it was presented. Over two days (01–02 July), I played mainly this game by betting on numbers, with some other games like blackjack and slots. My balance grew from $120(RM500) to $83,000(RM350,000). I do not have the latest screenshot of my balance, but I believe it is still relevant. Then, I was able to successfully transfer from this game wallet to my BK8 main wallet. My withdrawal on 01/07/2025 and 02/07/2025 is stucked on pending (till this day), and my account is suspended on 02/07/2025.
https://imgur.com/a/PvwNIF4
I contacted their support and was told that my winnings were the result of “bet choice that had winning bias with irrational payout” and were against their vague T&C, something like “irregular play includes, but is not limited to...”. They offered to refund my deposit, which I declined, and I requested for BK8 to make the decision instead of the game provider. But they deemed that they can't overrule the game provider's decision to unsuspend my account. I might have been a little emotional during my chat with the support here, apologies.
https://imgur.com/a/JeWv4Tf
I reported the issue to CasinoMeister (CM) on 04/07/2025. CM tried to contact BK8 since then until today (18/07/2025), and BK8 has completely ignored their attempts. In response, CM is issuing a public warning advisory against BK8.
https://imgur.com/a/V2De7BS
Since my account was suspended, I’ve noticed that BK8 took the game offline, and it has been down for more than a week. When it was up, the 0–9 number betting option was removed. This feels like they patched the game after someone finally won big on it. If this was really a flawed game design, how is that my fault as a player? Shouldn’t they own up to their own risk?
https://imgur.com/a/fza8P4M
I believe casinos should not be able to void legitimate winnings just because they didn’t expect someone to win this way, especially after the game had been running without issues. Heck, they should pay me more for doing QA for them.
I’m going public now to raise awareness, and hopefully protect others from this unfair treatment. I’d really appreciate everyone's thoughts on this:
1.Do you think I broke any rules here? (Other than their vague T&C, which is scummy & shady)
2.Does this count as “irregular play” even though I used no tools and just timed volatility?
3.Shouldn’t the casino take responsibility for putting out a game that can be beaten?
Thanks for reading this wall of text. If anyone’s had a similar experience, or knows how to deal with this, I’d really appreciate your input. If there's any missing information/screenshots, do let me know as well.
Disputed amount: $83,000 (RM350,000)
Username: tauyiu
Hi everyone,
I'm posting this because I feel completely helpless, and I’d really appreciate feedback or advice from the community.
Here's what happened:
I deposited $120(RM500) into BK8 and started playing one of their “live market betting” games. This game let you bet on the last digit of the BTC/USDT price feed (from Binance), with options like picking a number (0–9), odd/even, or trend up/down. The number bet paid 1:8.
I noticed that during low volatility periods (which are normal in any live market), the digits followed slightly more predictable patterns. I used that to my advantage, just observation and timing. I believe this works similarly like card-counting, it's not foolproof, because if there's even a minor movement on the market, then I will lose. Still, it gave me better odds of winning.
I wasn’t exploiting bugs or technical loopholes, just playing the game the way it was presented. Over two days (01–02 July), I played mainly this game by betting on numbers, with some other games like blackjack and slots. My balance grew from $120(RM500) to $83,000(RM350,000). I do not have the latest screenshot of my balance, but I believe it is still relevant. Then, I was able to successfully transfer from this game wallet to my BK8 main wallet. My withdrawal on 01/07/2025 and 02/07/2025 is stucked on pending (till this day), and my account is suspended on 02/07/2025.
https://imgur.com/a/PvwNIF4
I contacted their support and was told that my winnings were the result of “bet choice that had winning bias with irrational payout” and were against their vague T&C, something like “irregular play includes, but is not limited to...”. They offered to refund my deposit, which I declined, and I requested for BK8 to make the decision instead of the game provider. But they deemed that they can't overrule the game provider's decision to unsuspend my account. I might have been a little emotional during my chat with the support here, apologies.
https://imgur.com/a/JeWv4Tf
I reported the issue to CasinoMeister (CM) on 04/07/2025. CM tried to contact BK8 since then until today (18/07/2025), and BK8 has completely ignored their attempts. In response, CM is issuing a public warning advisory against BK8.
https://imgur.com/a/V2De7BS
Since my account was suspended, I’ve noticed that BK8 took the game offline, and it has been down for more than a week. When it was up, the 0–9 number betting option was removed. This feels like they patched the game after someone finally won big on it. If this was really a flawed game design, how is that my fault as a player? Shouldn’t they own up to their own risk?
https://imgur.com/a/fza8P4M
I believe casinos should not be able to void legitimate winnings just because they didn’t expect someone to win this way, especially after the game had been running without issues. Heck, they should pay me more for doing QA for them.
I’m going public now to raise awareness, and hopefully protect others from this unfair treatment. I’d really appreciate everyone's thoughts on this:
1.Do you think I broke any rules here? (Other than their vague T&C, which is scummy & shady)
2.Does this count as “irregular play” even though I used no tools and just timed volatility?
3.Shouldn’t the casino take responsibility for putting out a game that can be beaten?
Thanks for reading this wall of text. If anyone’s had a similar experience, or knows how to deal with this, I’d really appreciate your input. If there's any missing information/screenshots, do let me know as well.