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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (02/11 v1.1 update)
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thistlecoins
on 07/12/2017, 14:38:28 UTC
It it possible, with the factory firmware or with this firmware to start te mining with the fans disconnected or running very slow because of miner submerged in oil?

Thx


factory will fail due to lower than expected fan speed.

Read the release notes for Blissz firmware, there was a version where he allowed "fan speed zero", and I believe it is intended to disable all fan checks and/or allow you to run a 3rd party non-PWM fan.  I'm not set up yet to test that myself though.
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Re: [ANN][XLM] Stellar - Decentralized trading platform
by
thistlecoins
on 06/12/2017, 21:29:10 UTC
Yes same coin, poloniex is just being retarded not following the rebranding of the coin.

I used to use poloniex but... issues and zero support.

Make your life easier use bittrex.

But most of all use a wallet to store your coins, put the coins on an exchange only when you buy/sell.

New to XLM myself as of today, that difference also confused me, but alas did not yet have a validated Poloniex or Bittrex account... ended up using Kraken (from the US) which despite numerous gateway (cloudflare) errors, managed to get my XLM in the end.  Frustrating experience though.  Look forward to trying the other exchanges.

Got it in the middle of the pump this AM due to Godex news (without errors would have been beginning of the ramp), but having a cold needed a nap and missed the peak to double my stake, guess I'll be here and keeping a eye on this project for a while.   Cheers!
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (29/11 v1.01 update)
by
thistlecoins
on 01/12/2017, 02:14:24 UTC
Just a note regarding moderately elevated chain/chip temps.

My chain 3 chip temp was consistently about 8deg higher than 1 and 2, (often edging over 80deg).

Last time I shutdown I took the opportunity to move chain 3 into the chain 2 position, the logic being there is more airflow in the centerline.

This seems to have WORKED.  While still a nudge higher than the other two, it behaves much better relatively.  Or at least it's sensor is happy.  ;-)

Cheers,
Ryan
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (29/11 v1.01 update)
by
thistlecoins
on 30/11/2017, 02:08:32 UTC
How are you guys monitoring energy usage?  I have a kill-a-watt on my D3 (120v) currently, but I'm adding a 240v circuit and will be using a PDU when my 2nd D3 gets in, but I'm not sure if there is an energy monitor I can get that plugs into the PDU. 

So, are all of you that are quoting your wattage using 120v and using a kill-a-watt, or is anyone on 240v?  If so, how are you monitoring the wattage?
thanks

Just ordered this, says it's good to 240v for $17. I'll use them for timers after checking out the D3 usage. My kill a watt says only 120v, not trying that Smiley
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0727S8N72/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm not sure how you're going to plug that into a 6-anything outlet... must have adapters or something?

I can confirm those Zettaguard units (and the HomeMate App) also work great on 220-240v@60hz (US).  The packaging says nothing about 240v, so it was a bit scary the first time I powered on.  But yes, adapters may be required if you order the US versions.  I think their internals don't vary for the international versions... hence why they work across standards.  Not sure about 50hz countries though.

I preferred all my 240v stuff be L6-20 or L6-30, but these guys made me build an inline adapter to Edison so I can selectively monitor 240v.

Do note that they are still rated for 15A, which may be below what your 240v PDU outputs are rated for.   Max 2 D3s per Zettaguard at 240v, 1 each would probably be safer unless you are using 2400+w server supplies and have no choice.

thistle.
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (28/11 v1.0 update)
by
thistlecoins
on 30/11/2017, 01:58:12 UTC
Hi @all,

as probably some of you have exchanged fans - what kind of model / type would you guys recommend? How many RPM fans are you using to get the D3 quiet?
Mine are currently running at 2500-3000rpm with original fans. Any recommendations?

And thanks Blissz, for starting this and still working on an even better custom FW. :-)

I run it with the 120mm 2000rpm Scythe Slip Stream fans, but that only works if you run it at the lowest voltage setting. A relative silent 2500 to 3000rpm would be better. Anybody got suggestions?

Yes, I think I found one:
http://noctua.at/en/products/product-line-industrial/nf-f12-industrialppc-3000-pwm

This one looks quite promising actually. I just ordered some (they are not cheap!) and I'll give them a try over the weekend...


I have installed the Noctua NF-F12 (3.000rpm = 65dB)

Ambient temp: 16°C
Fan: (AUTO Performance) ~75%
Clock: 500 MHz
Voltage: 9V
Max Chip-Temp: 86°C
18.730 MH/s
Accepted: 100%
Hardware errors: 0 (after 30min)
Usage: 1.020 Watt

Testing again


Fan loudness curve:
10 %   44 dB   750 rpm
15 %   45 dB   875 rpm
20 %   47 dB   1.000 rpm
25 %   48 dB   1.125 rpm
30 %   49 dB   1.250 rpm
35 %   50 dB   1.375 rpm
40 %   51 dB   1.500 rpm
45 %   52 dB   1.625 rpm
50 %   54 dB   1.750 rpm
55 %   55 dB   1.875 rpm
60 %   56 dB   2.000 rpm
65 %   57 dB   2.125 rpm
70 %   58 dB   2.250 rpm
75 %   59 dB   2.375 rpm
80 %   60 dB   2.500 rpm
85 %   62 dB   2.625 rpm
90 %   63 dB   2.750 rpm
95 %   64 dB   2.875 rpm
100 %   65 dB   3.000 rpm



Did I read the thread correctly that you opted against these after testing?  I was also curious why their website advertises 43db when you were measuring 60ish.   There must be some rule about the distance of the measurement that is standard?   43db would have been a win over the stock fans for sure (but lower RPM/flow of course).

(Edit: if so too bad, the 6 year warranty is hella-appealling!  You could migrate your fans to the next gen of 120mm ASIC miners).

thistle
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (25/11 update available!)
by
thistlecoins
on 26/11/2017, 17:38:05 UTC

The download link is dead

ya i found this https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/novec-us/applications/immersion-cooling/

any one know how to get that stuff or where to get , thanks  may142012 for the word to search for

Sent you the link of the fluid to your inbox.

From what i know, you need a big tank that fits all of the boards from your miner, a top tank that install the Cooling Coil to do two-phase operation, and of course the 1 gallon fluid that cost $300.

Off topic, but only slightly considering Blissz originally set out to make a silent machine...

That is the fancy 3M Engineered Fluids method... the hippy non-toxic way is to just use mineral-oil or some other suitable dielectic blend.  About 90$ for 5gallons.  Less in quantity.

Note, there are some serious hippies out there too!  Not just over-clocking gamers up for a laugh.
https://www.grcooling.com
and the NSA
http://grcoolingv2.staging.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/NSA-Doing-More-With-Less.pdf

Note one of GRCs products is a "hash-tank" comprised of S9s up to 5800Th/s squeezed into a 40' shipping container.
https://www.grcooling.com/bitcoin/

The tricky bits are circulation and heat exchanging... but not problems that haven't been solved a million different ways before.  I'm leaning towards trying a recirculating pump and a automotive transmission oil cooler+fan outside for my baby farm (two D3s)!   If I lived in a colder climate I would consider a classic household radiator and dump the heat inside seasonally.  If that can't move enough heat I'll have to try to build a evaporative cooler and heat exchange with water.

Take a journey down the antminer immersion cooling youtube rabit hole:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Antminer+mineral+oil

You mean like this guy doing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBTYOOXX2o

That is alot of Novec fluid, maybe 2-3 gallons! (the cost of a D3).  Fans and heatsinks aren't necessary in a Novec closed loop system, i've seen better where the hash boards just lie flat on an aquarium bottom and maybe only 1/2 gal of fluid is needed.  In closed loop you still have to cool the condensing surface somehow.   Probably less efficient but a peltier cooler strapped to a large heatsink or plate might be less messy.  Not for dash, those things are energy hogs, perhaps workable on another coin, or if the one cooler rig is all you need for lots of hashing boards.

My exchanger/condenser thoughts lean towards a wort-chiller rig or plate heat exchanger with a DIY cooling tower outside to cycle the water.  But my first attempt will be to just pump and exhaust the oil heat directly.  Pumping water is better, as you are't restricted to the types of pumps that will do the job and not break down, but I think the small food-grade pumps can handle oil and are pretty cheap.  If you are after parts for your rig the automotive and home-brew industry seems to be a good resource.
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (25/11 update available!)
by
thistlecoins
on 26/11/2017, 06:43:02 UTC
25/11 v2 recommended UPDATE

I really  recommend to update to this version as it brings more stability / + small hashrate improvement

Download:
https://mega.nz/#!DowkVLgD!qVz5xnC2tGpUKKcjd6_kdkVjIwSG7-EBUkq1e_rX5Mg

Changes 25/11 v2:
- Hashrate calculation is now according bitmain stock firmware (displayed  hashrate is ~3% higher now)
- + ~1% performance improvment by providing the work faster to the ASICs  Cool
- removed dev pool from miner status page to speed up webinterface and avoid confusion (exact dev mining details are visible in the kernel log)

Changes 25/11:
- fixed auto reboot on low hashrate / xxxx
- fixed issue where temperature readings could be wrong
- fixed fan error on some units
- improved stability
- allows for zero RPM fan (all custom fans should work now)
- increased upper limit frequency for overclocking. (not recommended though Wink)
- dev fee kicks in a bit later now after changing settings


know issues:

- switching pools can sometimes cause the miner to wait for work for 10 seconds.

happy mining!


The download link is dead

ya i found this https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/novec-us/applications/immersion-cooling/

any one know how to get that stuff or where to get , thanks  may142012 for the word to search for

Sent you the link of the fluid to your inbox.

From what i know, you need a big tank that fits all of the boards from your miner, a top tank that install the Cooling Coil to do two-phase operation, and of course the 1 gallon fluid that cost $300.

Off topic, but only slightly considering Blissz originally set out to make a silent machine...

That is the fancy 3M Engineered Fluids method... the hippy non-toxic way is to just use mineral-oil or some other suitable dielectic blend.  About 90$ for 5gallons.  Less in quantity.

Note, there are some serious hippies out there too!  Not just over-clocking gamers up for a laugh.
https://www.grcooling.com
and the NSA
http://grcoolingv2.staging.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/NSA-Doing-More-With-Less.pdf

Note one of GRCs products is a "hash-tank" comprised of S9s up to 5800Th/s squeezed into a 40' shipping container.
https://www.grcooling.com/bitcoin/

The tricky bits are circulation and heat exchanging... but not problems that haven't been solved a million different ways before.  I'm leaning towards trying a recirculating pump and a automotive transmission oil cooler+fan outside for my baby farm (two D3s)!   If I lived in a colder climate I would consider a classic household radiator and dump the heat inside seasonally.  If that can't move enough heat I'll have to try to build a evaporative cooler and heat exchange with water.

Take a journey down the antminer immersion cooling youtube rabit hole:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Antminer+mineral+oil
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (26/11 must update!!!)
by
thistlecoins
on 26/11/2017, 06:13:10 UTC
Would it be okay to get some Frequency/ASIC voltage data going? Would be really helpful for people just perusing to see what they can push with the right settings.

I'm not sure if this is average, but here is what I have going so far:

Hash: Frequency/ASIC : Watts
15.6 MH/s: 437M/lowest : 780-790W


Please add to the list. Thank you!

Batch:      Hash:  Frequency/ASIC :     Watts

Batch 1    14.77   MH/s 400M/lowest:  699-704 W

I also have batch 1 but I can't get 700w with 400M
Similar hash (14.6) can get on 387M but 710watts.
I think this is due to my wall voltage which is high at 248 volt  probably with some voltage optimiser and ~220v can go below 700w.
Miner in cold garage and webcam on the watt meter;)

http://tinyimg.io/i/nz3JhWs.jpg

Nice camera setup...

I was about to recommend this product, which is a 240v rated (I'm using it at 240) smart plug that can also track usage, but it appears the usage function has died on me (or their app is mis-behaving).  hah.  (Note, I do not recommend exposing your miner's power source to the internet for extended periods of time, this was just convenient for testing).

Zettaguard S31 (Amazon Link)
https://www.amazon.com/Zettaguard-S31-Blue-Wireless-Electronics-Smartphone/dp/B0727S8N72
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (25/11 update available!)
by
thistlecoins
on 25/11/2017, 19:15:36 UTC
Some more feature requests...

 - Perhaps trivial, display Temps in both C and F on the admin interface.

 - Re: ability to swap pools around easily... perhaps just a UI change to the config form... add ability to add pool rows, but also include a tickbox to enable/disable them, would at least save the copy/paste shuffle step.

 - I have some IO/GPIO ideas too, but I need to take a closer look at the beagle-board black that bitmain is using.   (Like the ability to add an ambient [intake] breakout temp sensor, and trigger shutdowns or profile changes that way too).

Fan 0 Setting...

Is my understanding correct that at this setting the firmware cares zero f*cks about what the sense cable says.  You mentioned this enables 3rd party fan mods... so is it still gonna spew 12v on two wires, but do nothing with the control and sense?  Or are you implying powering the 3rd party fans directly off the supply?

Cheers!
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (23/11 update available!)
by
thistlecoins
on 24/11/2017, 21:52:20 UTC
Can this firmware set zero RPM for both fans (power off fans)?

I'm also wanting to know this, Blissz made it sound like YES in the feature set?
More importantly, for those of use considering fanless immersion approaches, will it boot and run with no fans detected (unplugged!)??

Unplugging after boot is an option too, but annoying for remote management.

I plan to test both scenarios soon, but i'm afraid to run it for even a few seconds with no air movement.  Don't have the oil bath built yet.

Hoping the firmware hacks are the solution, rather than the more involved hardware hacks to fake the fans.
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (21/11 update available!)
by
thistlecoins
on 23/11/2017, 14:19:38 UTC
I second that with regards to the reduce auto fan speed. I have tested it on a batch 1 17Gh D3 and I have rolled back to stock for the time being.

Problem I have:

1) Following your instruction and setting speed at 400 and fan at 25% is risky. The moment I upgraded the firmware my temp went up to 80. I will suggest setting the fan to at least 59% (if ambient temp is around 20 degrees) or higher if your ambient temp is much higher.

2) I tested with lowest, 1,2 voltage at 487 and I am not getting and HW errors but it keeps stopping with no hashrate.

3) You dev fee pool keeps kicking in when I'm trying to test with different settings and it is better if you set it so that it kicks in at the end of the hour or so.

4) Maybe a way to manually tweak the auto fan speed will be useful.

5) A temp protection like the L3 can also help.

I will probably also have that problem, in a moderate climate with 70-80F temp highs even in winter.

Maybe a way to "proportion" the auto setting... some % value.  Can be below or above?
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (21/11 update available!)
by
thistlecoins
on 23/11/2017, 02:14:59 UTC
(real first post, with actual content...)

D3 was my first miner (due to deflated ebay prices).  Have enjoyed this thread so far and happy to see the progress with the firmware improvements.  Look forward to testing it on my D3, which, as an in-tiny-home machine will benefit greatly from reduced noise, even at a slight profit loss if the DASH price keeps going up.   After I get my break-even ROI I plan to experiment with immersion cooling so it can tolerate the warm summer months here.  Using it to heat the house right now.

Thank you Blissz!   Smiley  I don't feel the dev-fee is too high.   Some wealthy donor (not me yet) needs to send you an L3+ and a S9 to expand on these improvements.

My wish-list...

 - now that you have auto-reboot maybe working, add a "record uptime" field to the |system| tab.

 - optional field to configure for emailed notices, if possible? sendmail and mail exist, but my test messages have not arrived (perhaps anti-spam measures).

 - optional notice after a reboot?

 - optional emailed notice if that machine mined a block!  (for those crazy solo miners)

 - fix whatever needs to be fixed to allow "foregrounding" of cgminer process in ssh.  (I get a term-type error of some kind when trying).

 - 2nd'ing another's request for cron style scheduling of mining "profiles"... one profile should be "idle" too if possible, minimum fan speeds, minimum energy (might require a reboot to get out of it).

 Edited to add:
 - "shutdown" button to the system tab.  I have a smart-plug I can remotely kill it with, but just pulling power is not ideal, as the shutdown sequence leaves the fans running to let it cool.

 - Alter this shutdown behavior to ramp down fans to minimal, (equivalent to requested 'idle' profile).


Will post others as they come to me.
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Re: Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (21/11 update available!)
by
thistlecoins
on 23/11/2017, 01:39:22 UTC
Thanks blissz  Smiley Keep it up. No more scandalous D3. Temp(PCB) 60-67 while Temp(Chip) 73-82. 815W on my wall with 16.4 GH/s  Smiley

Using a mining calc, this gives slightly less daily profit than running it at 19.3 GH/s with the stock 1200 watts - am I missing something?

Today's record high DASH prices might have something to do with the profitability change.  That or the user's personal utility costs.

PS, first post.  ;-)