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For the past few days, i have been exchanging emails with Askgamblers to take my case.
Unfortunately they won't.
Here's what they said:
https://gyazo.com/5bedb0daa39510dbd9419c884925c068
https://gyazo.com/86dabd0396fbac46d8d844071c99ab2c
So, at this point, i am out of options.
Evil has won.
Unfortunately they won't.
Here's what they said:
https://gyazo.com/5bedb0daa39510dbd9419c884925c068
https://gyazo.com/86dabd0396fbac46d8d844071c99ab2c
So, at this point, i am out of options.
Evil has won.
Bump because they shouldnt be able to get away with it
Thanks for the bump.
Unfortunately it seems they already got away with it.
Mister holydarkness already marked it as resolved due to undeniable proof i broke ToS from betpanda. /s
Maybe i should update the tittle tho, the value is now 1850€ due to bitcoin value going up these last days.
At the moment it seems we have no idea what Betpanda are implying because you have not received a response citing a specific reason for blocking your account withdrawal.
Regarding the possible suspicious betting pattern, keep that aside for a moment and concentrate on other aspects of possible breach of the rules such as using a VPN or having multiple accounts from the same IP address.
Regarding the possible suspicious betting pattern, keep that aside for a moment and concentrate on other aspects of possible breach of the rules such as using a VPN or having multiple accounts from the same IP address.
Jolly, I get your point. Please tell how I can have a suspicious betting pattern after placing only 4 bets on a tennis match. I didn't even know about betpanda until i saw their advert the same day i registered with them.
Are they implying that I have fixed an ITF men's double tennis match being played in Japan with 4 japanese players and I only placed 100-150$ bets and just won 350$ out of it? How ridiclous this whole thing is mind baffling. They just stole my 400$ and they dont even bother replying.
Are they implying that I have fixed an ITF men's double tennis match being played in Japan with 4 japanese players and I only placed 100-150$ bets and just won 350$ out of it? How ridiclous this whole thing is mind baffling. They just stole my 400$ and they dont even bother replying.
Don't know if you have seen my case against them here in the forum, but they have replied to my case.
They claim it's ok to ban people for getting limited by betby. Getting limited is something super normal, if you win more than you lose. What is not normal is to have your fairly won money confiscated. Disgusting practices.
The funny thing with this scam casino is that they ask KYC AFTER they ban people.
So let's use some logic here. If they say we broke broke ToS, and banned us for it, why are they asking for documents? If they say they are already sure we broke it, banning should be enough. But no, they want documents as well. I've never seen practices like this anywhere else. This was one of the points i've raised in my scam accusation thread, that nobody was able to come up with a reason, so will ask it here.
This is a police case if i've ever seen one, and should be investigated. I suspect this site is not just a scam. It goes deeper than a scam.
So let's use some logic here. If they say we broke broke ToS, and banned us for it, why are they asking for documents? If they say they are already sure we broke it, banning should be enough. But no, they want documents as well. I've never seen practices like this anywhere else. This was one of the points i've raised in my scam accusation thread, that nobody was able to come up with a reason, so will ask it here.
This is a police case if i've ever seen one, and should be investigated. I suspect this site is not just a scam. It goes deeper than a scam.
At this point, i wouldn't be surprised to see them just exit-scam and close the site down, betnomi style.
Given their amazing feedback lately in here. In just the first page alone are 5 cases. I'm sure if we dig more pages we will find more.
Big scam.
Given their amazing feedback lately in here. In just the first page alone are 5 cases. I'm sure if we dig more pages we will find more.
Big scam.
Do you want to get limited to microscopic amount instead of being entirely banned? I will talk with my contact and see if that can be arranged if you want. Nonetheless, with you being limited in several other casinos by betby, I guess their own risk assessment's call as well as betby's are founded. Therefore, I believe it is beyond overseers' belief that the case can be safely closed.
Damn dude, that's alot of influence you got there
. The keyword is "see if that can be arranged". Not a lot of influence, I believe, as I am not sure myself if that's feasible. Just an option and a path I am willing to convey to my contact if you wished.
So, you're saying that, since i've been limited in all betby's i played at, betpanda is on the right by banning me. Alright.
The question as to why other betby casinos have paid me doesn't matter at all, right? The fact that i wasn't banned anywhere else ever doesn't matter too. Nothing matters. Only thing that matters is that i was limited.
The question as to why other betby casinos have paid me doesn't matter at all, right? The fact that i wasn't banned anywhere else ever doesn't matter too. Nothing matters. Only thing that matters is that i was limited.
I am saying one is a coincidence and probably a mistake, two is questionable, three and beyond... is a pattern. Do you have a better explanation or label or outcome following a revelation that you're limited from all betby-provided casinos?
I challenge you and your contacts and betpanda representative to come here and tell me where or when did i break ToS to get banned.
Wouldn't that be a better way to use all that influence and contacts of yours?
Throughout this thread, i have raised so many questions, nothing was answered. All shoved aside like it doesn't matter.
You and Mr. Betpanda representative talked about "suspicious betting activity", while i posted my betting activity for a whole month.
Okay then, pick a date, year and month, and i'll post my betting activity.
Saying this case can be "safely closed" is shameless behavior.
Wouldn't that be a better way to use all that influence and contacts of yours?
Throughout this thread, i have raised so many questions, nothing was answered. All shoved aside like it doesn't matter.
You and Mr. Betpanda representative talked about "suspicious betting activity", while i posted my betting activity for a whole month.
Okay then, pick a date, year and month, and i'll post my betting activity.
Saying this case can be "safely closed" is shameless behavior.
I'll just respond this with a gentle smile and a sincere [empty] wish that you can see what me and my contact discussed, and the length we took to try your case. Really. I do really wished you can see the length we both take for you. Then maybe you'll understand the efforts exhausted just for you. But the call didn't come from our hand. People always asked who am I and my answer will remains consistent: I am no one. So, if there is a delusion of grandeur that I am influential, sadly but confidently, I'll say that if ever uttered, it didn't come from me.
At times, I'm stoically thick-skinning myself at people lashing, but another small part of time, I'm tired of people venting and kicking and clawing their anger at the wrong person. For the record, I even tried to rake through AG yesterday for your case, to get something to help my contact to convince BP to reconsider and perhaps find a common ground, but after re-read the thread I find that AG refuse to mediate.
With this and the weariness, I wish you a very good luck in pursuing someone with "all that influence and contact" that can overturn the case. Kindly inform us if there is a significant update of your case being retried somewhere by an influential being. I'll change the status back to "in progress".
1. Let's get the timeline straight. I was only limited after opening this thread. Same day i posted my betting history here, was when it happened. Even after being limited across all betby's, i was still able to withdraw without any issue, from wsmcasino. Even went through KYC. So, they were fully aware of who i was.
As for a better explanation, how about that instead of a pattern, i am just a winner? I can confidently say i have won way more than i lost at betby casinos. And if they want to limit me, i accept it. It's fair. What is not fair is getting banned and have my winnings confiscated without breaking any ToS EVER In the last 3.5 years, i have played in 17 betby casinos. I can name them all if you want. This is the only one i have ever had a problem with. Every single one of the other 16 have paid without a single issue, and the limits were still pretty good. So, like i said in my previous post, pick a date, from the last 3.5 years, and i will share my betting history with the class, to see if it's a suspicious betting pattern or not. *SPOILER* it's the exact same as what i've shown. Dota 2 major tournaments 1x2 moneyline with odds over 2. That's the pattern.
2. I do appreciate the effort and interest you have shown to this case, and i apologize if it seemed like i've undervalued your effort. But try to see it from my perspective. I am being blatantly scammed with no one to turn to other than this forum thread. And the only person that have shown any interest in this case is now(at least it's what it felt like) "siding" or excusing this behavior after i have answered all the questions asked (and not asked) with proof, and i am still getting a side-eye. I have tried to be as transparent as possible, to be as credible as possible and still it seems it's not enough. That some representative comes in here with some vague-ass crap, and it's enough for you to tap them on the back and say i must've done something wrong. And that leads to point #3
3. You say you've discussed this case with your contact more than usual. So, why doesn't anyone know exactly why i was banned? What rule did i break to deserve to get banned and winnings confiscated? What exactly did i do? Because this "betby's call" excuse is very shady. Even if it was betby's call, where exactly did i break any ToS betby's rule to deserve this? This is clearly betpanda's call and you know it. As for what ToS did i break for betpanda, i still don't know. Well i do know, none. So after such lenghty discussions with your contact about this case, what conclusion did you reach about my ban? Why was i banned and have deposit + winnings confiscated? ToS exist for a reason. And i challenge anyone to come in here and tell me where did i break ToS either on betpanda or betby. It seems that after lenghty discussions about this case with your contact, you didn't get to a definitive and clear answer. Isn't that a red flag? It shouldn't be that hard to expose me as fraud if i were one.
Trustpilot has a bunch more reports following the exact same formula.
I didn't even get the KYC request just a straight up limit to 1$ max bet and account block. They refused to respond to what I had done specifically to break the TOS.
Like you, I bet on pretty niche stuff and I think they really don't like it when players use their expertise to profit.
I didn't even get the KYC request just a straight up limit to 1$ max bet and account block. They refused to respond to what I had done specifically to break the TOS.
Like you, I bet on pretty niche stuff and I think they really don't like it when players use their expertise to profit.
It's sad that trustpilot has so many bot with fake reviews.
Niche or not, it doesn't matter. Betting on Dota 2 or MMA is not against ToS anywhere in the world.
Our fellow scammed colleague in the comment above mine from @bettingfede1998, was banned after betting on money line Champions league football matches. There's nothimg more mainstream than champions league.
So, niche or not, they just scam. Shameless.
Betpanda are such a blatant scam operation they're barely even trying to hide it.
That's right. If you take a look at all the scam acusations against betpanda, they are all very similar.
It's like they found an effective modus operandi to scam. Ban upon withdrawal request followed by a useless KYC request. If as they claim, the person broke ToS and is banned, why do they want documents for? Very shady.
And then hide behind "betby's decision", even tho every other betby serious casino will pay. With this strategy, they will get away with anything in the eyes of public opinion because sites like casinoguru won't pick up cases, since they don't deal with sports betting. Then come to bitcointalk, throw some vague bullshit about "betby's decision" and voilá, you got away with scamming.
The only place we can use the word "banned" is for betpanda. I was not banned anywhere else. Ever. Yes i was limited, but i can still place bets even if they are microscopic.
It feels like even tho i have been transparent through this whole case, something betpanda has never been, with only vague claims and shallow excuses, you are minimizing or excusing their actions.
It's sickening that can they just have kind of behavior, and there is no one to turn to. This site is indeed a fucking scam.
It feels like even tho i have been transparent through this whole case, something betpanda has never been, with only vague claims and shallow excuses, you are minimizing or excusing their actions.
It's sickening that can they just have kind of behavior, and there is no one to turn to. This site is indeed a fucking scam.
Do you want to get limited to microscopic amount instead of being entirely banned? I will talk with my contact and see if that can be arranged if you want. Nonetheless, with you being limited in several other casinos by betby, I guess their own risk assessment's call as well as betby's are founded. Therefore, I believe it is beyond overseers' belief that the case can be safely closed.
Damn dude, that's alot of influence you got there
. So, you're saying that, since i've been limited in all betby's i played at, betpanda is on the right by banning me. Alright. The question as to why other betby casinos have paid me doesn't matter at all, right? The fact that i wasn't banned anywhere else ever doesn't matter too. Nothing matters. Only thing that matters is that i was limited.
I challenge you and your contacts and betpanda representative to come here and tell me where or when did i break ToS to get banned.
Wouldn't that be a better way to use all that influence and contacts of yours?
Throughout this thread, i have raised so many questions, nothing was answered. All shoved aside like it doesn't matter.
You and Mr. Betpanda representative talked about "suspicious betting activity", while i posted my betting activity for a whole month.
Okay then, pick a date, year and month, and i'll post my betting activity.
Saying this case can be "safely closed" is shameless behavior.
Hello,
We are of course not in a position to comment on what the procedures of other casinos are, what their terms look like or what their policy is when a user breaches their Terms and Conditions.
However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda.
Therefore we would like to reiterate that we are not a "scam" as is falsely claimed, but simply acting upon suspicious behaviour suspected and investigated (and now confirmed) by our sportsbook provider as per our Terms and Conditions.
We have brought this up several times internally with senior management and with all the information which has been made available to us through various mediums, we are not in a position to offer a refund due to the aforementioned reasons.
We do understand that this is not the outcome you were looking for, but the substantial action taken by Betby validated our suspicions and cemented their decision.
Hence, Betpanda considers the matter closed.
We are of course not in a position to comment on what the procedures of other casinos are, what their terms look like or what their policy is when a user breaches their Terms and Conditions.
However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda.
Therefore we would like to reiterate that we are not a "scam" as is falsely claimed, but simply acting upon suspicious behaviour suspected and investigated (and now confirmed) by our sportsbook provider as per our Terms and Conditions.
We have brought this up several times internally with senior management and with all the information which has been made available to us through various mediums, we are not in a position to offer a refund due to the aforementioned reasons.
We do understand that this is not the outcome you were looking for, but the substantial action taken by Betby validated our suspicions and cemented their decision.
Hence, Betpanda considers the matter closed.
So predictable to use the "limitations" as an excuse. I shared it here just for transparency's sake, since i got nothing to hide, unlike you.
I literally shared my "suspicious betting activity" here for all to see.
I have been playing at betby casinos for 4 years. Always the exact same "betting pattern". It was until i opened this thread that this happen. I'm pretty sure if i kept my mouth shut, i wouldn't get limited anywhere. But i am exposing you as a scam, trash, garbage casino. Everyone who has followed this thread, and others like mine against you, will see exactly what you are. Hopefully this will save many players from playing at your scamhouse.
You say you cannot comment on other casinos procedures and ToS, because you can't. You say:
"However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda."
Sure, but i can go another route, or point of view. Why did 3 betby casinos paid me after you wrongfully banned me?
Why are you not asking that? If, like you say, it wasn't coincidental and by chance as "whoever they" are, why did they pay? You can't answer. Because you know exactly what you are doing. It's called a scam.
Why do you assume, that i got limited because of betting activity? Maybe i was limited because i win too much. I mean, i deposited 2.5mbtc and got to 18.2mbtc at your casino. I would limit that guy too.
Feel free to share my "suspicious betting activity" with the class.
Enjoy your dirty 1700€. I hope you buy many balloons and confetti to celebrate another successfull scam. Or maybe use it to buy more bot accounts to boost your trustpilot ratings.
Uhh... actually... I think the more likely narrative that happen here with BetPanda was that your bet on BetPanda got flagged by Betby, then BP create their own risk assessment team following Betby's decision that they deemed need to be reassessed [this point is pretty much established in past posts and interactions]. While for Betby, in the meantime, maybe someone from Betby do check this forum periodically, or maybe someone from WSM, or other casinos, reading and learning that you're restricted by Betby on BP, inquired to Betby, and that leads to universal ban from Betby.
I doubted that, though. Because casinos will not want to lose their customers, and they're literally throwing their revenue away if they ask Betby that.
So, the more logical narrative is the flag that Betby placed on you from BetPanda's bettings finally caught up with their algorithm on several casinos to detect same accounts, thus locking you out.
Why now and not for the past 4 years? No one knows, as the decision is solely based on Betby's call. But the fact that a limitation-hammer imposed upon you betby-provided-casinos wide, should tell that there probably is something unfavorable on your betting preference by Betby. I would dare to assume that Betby need to collect more data to be certain on which casinos were you at. Whether this username xxx on yyy casino is you or not. Which accumulated as you play. But that's just me and my guesses.
Point is... I don't think BP has any influence on this, it's betby who ban you across casinos.
The only place we can use the word "banned" is for betpanda. I was not banned anywhere else. Ever. Yes i was limited, but i can still place bets even if they are microscopic.
It feels like even tho i have been transparent through this whole case, something betpanda has never been, with only vague claims and shallow excuses, you are minimizing or excusing their actions.
It's sickening that can they just have kind of behavior, and there is no one to turn to. This site is indeed a fucking scam.
Fellow stranger.
If you googled Betpanda scam, and came across this thread, consider yourself lucky.
This will probably save you a good chunk of money.
Betpanda scam.
If you googled Betpanda scam, and came across this thread, consider yourself lucky.
This will probably save you a good chunk of money.
Betpanda scam.
Hello,
We are of course not in a position to comment on what the procedures of other casinos are, what their terms look like or what their policy is when a user breaches their Terms and Conditions.
However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda.
Therefore we would like to reiterate that we are not a "scam" as is falsely claimed, but simply acting upon suspicious behaviour suspected and investigated (and now confirmed) by our sportsbook provider as per our Terms and Conditions.
We have brought this up several times internally with senior management and with all the information which has been made available to us through various mediums, we are not in a position to offer a refund due to the aforementioned reasons.
We do understand that this is not the outcome you were looking for, but the substantial action taken by Betby validated our suspicions and cemented their decision.
Hence, Betpanda considers the matter closed.
We are of course not in a position to comment on what the procedures of other casinos are, what their terms look like or what their policy is when a user breaches their Terms and Conditions.
However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda.
Therefore we would like to reiterate that we are not a "scam" as is falsely claimed, but simply acting upon suspicious behaviour suspected and investigated (and now confirmed) by our sportsbook provider as per our Terms and Conditions.
We have brought this up several times internally with senior management and with all the information which has been made available to us through various mediums, we are not in a position to offer a refund due to the aforementioned reasons.
We do understand that this is not the outcome you were looking for, but the substantial action taken by Betby validated our suspicions and cemented their decision.
Hence, Betpanda considers the matter closed.
So predictable to use the "limitations" as an excuse. I shared it here just for transparency's sake, since i got nothing to hide, unlike you.
I literally shared my "suspicious betting activity" here for all to see.
I have been playing at betby casinos for 4 years. Always the exact same "betting pattern". It was until i opened this thread that this happen. I'm pretty sure if i kept my mouth shut, i wouldn't get limited anywhere. But i am exposing you as a scam, trash, garbage casino. Everyone who has followed this thread, and others like mine against you, will see exactly what you are. Hopefully this will save many players from playing at your scamhouse.
You say you cannot comment on other casinos procedures and ToS, because you can't. You say:
"However, the actions taken by Betby would strongly suggest to us that the suspicious betting behaviour the player was investigated for initially was/is calculated and systematic.
If this behaviour would indeed be coincidental and by chance as they claim, they wouldn't have been limited across all the operators, only at Betpanda."
Sure, but i can go another route, or point of view. Why did 3 betby casinos paid me after you wrongfully banned me?
Why are you not asking that? If, like you say, it wasn't coincidental and by chance as "whoever they" are, why did they pay? You can't answer. Because you know exactly what you are doing. It's called a scam.
Feel free to share my "suspicious betting activity" with the class.
Enjoy your dirty 1700€. I hope you buy many balloons and confetti to celebrate another successfull scam.
I have an update. Not directly related to Betpanda but i think it's relevant.
As i mentioned in my last post with the screenshots, i have been playing at wsm casino.
A day later of my post(or even the same day) ALL betby casinos i ever played at were sent into the dumpster with 0.01 cent limits.
I think this thread might have pissed someone off.
I was able to successfully withdraw from WSM casino after passing KYC. Everything went as it should.
So i don't really understand Betpanda's posture in this case other than the tittle of this thread.
@Betpanda, i am still waiting.
As i mentioned in my last post with the screenshots, i have been playing at wsm casino.
A day later of my post(or even the same day) ALL betby casinos i ever played at were sent into the dumpster with 0.01 cent limits.
I think this thread might have pissed someone off.
I was able to successfully withdraw from WSM casino after passing KYC. Everything went as it should.
So i don't really understand Betpanda's posture in this case other than the tittle of this thread.
@Betpanda, i am still waiting.
Actually... that'll be Betby's doing as I don't think BetPanda has power to influence other casinos to limit you. If all of your accounts that's provided by Betby were limited simultaneously, then it is most likely means Betby drop the hammer and request those casinos to do that. And that's actually how things normally go when an account in a casino got limited or rejected: their other accounts will follow sooner or later, as a flag carries on and bound to a user as a person, not their persona.
As for what BetPanda do right now, as per what's been communicated with me through my contact, they do create a separate risk team, and that's what they currently do to your account: analyzing whether Betby's call is justified or not.
Let me page them again to see if there's any development from their side.
The same day i post wsm screenshots, i get hammered with unplayable limits on all betbys i ever played.
Seems like someone with the power to do that is lurking in this thread.
I think now, after this, it's pretty clear i am not welcome to play at betby's anymore. Even then, wsm still paid out without any issue.
Difference between a serious casino and a scam i guess.
You can still do the right thing @Betpanda.
I have an update. Not directly related to Betpanda but i think it's relevant.
As i mentioned in my last post with the screenshots, i have been playing at wsm casino.
A day later of my post(or even the same day) ALL betby casinos i ever played at were sent into the dumpster with 0.01 cent limits.
I think this thread might have pissed someone off.
I was able to successfully withdraw from WSM casino after passing KYC. Everything went as it should.
So i don't really understand Betpanda's posture in this case other than the tittle of this thread.
@Betpanda, i am still waiting.
As i mentioned in my last post with the screenshots, i have been playing at wsm casino.
A day later of my post(or even the same day) ALL betby casinos i ever played at were sent into the dumpster with 0.01 cent limits.
I think this thread might have pissed someone off.
I was able to successfully withdraw from WSM casino after passing KYC. Everything went as it should.
So i don't really understand Betpanda's posture in this case other than the tittle of this thread.
@Betpanda, i am still waiting.
https://gyazo.com/8606dfdde5bb4718abd81d4b1cf6242d
https://gyazo.com/d08cf87a8cf194db324e16522a4408f7
This is all i got left. I didn't use this site much during that period, so most of the bets are missing here from other screenshots, but the ones that are there, are exact mirrors. The second screenshot has alot of bets post betpanda ban, i just showed the whole page so people can't say i'm hiding something. So yeah, that's it. The only thing i have left to show is the bets made during the date of my deposit at betpanda to the first screenshots i posted, but it's more of the same type of bets just with a much higher win rate. I made the deposit at 23/3.
https://gyazo.com/d08cf87a8cf194db324e16522a4408f7
This is all i got left. I didn't use this site much during that period, so most of the bets are missing here from other screenshots, but the ones that are there, are exact mirrors. The second screenshot has alot of bets post betpanda ban, i just showed the whole page so people can't say i'm hiding something. So yeah, that's it. The only thing i have left to show is the bets made during the date of my deposit at betpanda to the first screenshots i posted, but it's more of the same type of bets just with a much higher win rate. I made the deposit at 23/3.
This is from what casino, if I may ask? Sorry, can't tell myself from the image as it didn't contain the site name and I am not familiar with each unique theme-color of every casino [most of them looks the same to me]
I'm sorry, my bad.
I forgot to add that info. It's from wsm casino.https://gyazo.com/8606dfdde5bb4718abd81d4b1cf6242d
https://gyazo.com/d08cf87a8cf194db324e16522a4408f7
This is all i got left. I didn't use this site much during that period, so most of the bets are missing here from other screenshots, but the ones that are there, are exact mirrors. The second screenshot has alot of bets post betpanda ban, i just showed the whole page so people can't say i'm hiding something. So yeah, that's it.
https://gyazo.com/d08cf87a8cf194db324e16522a4408f7
This is all i got left. I didn't use this site much during that period, so most of the bets are missing here from other screenshots, but the ones that are there, are exact mirrors. The second screenshot has alot of bets post betpanda ban, i just showed the whole page so people can't say i'm hiding something. So yeah, that's it.
Ok, this might sounds like too much to ask, but I can't explain the reason why I ask for the time being. Dare I assume you also put your eggs on other baskets on the bets depicted on the screenshots? If you did, is it possible for you to help me understand the matter by showing me those baskets and its eggs? Uhh... I mean the screenshots of the exact bets of the same events in different casinos, to prove that only the one in BetPanda is cancelled.
https://gyazo.com/a0e1693c2293a59b510c2f7138e14eed
https://gyazo.com/2c541ceb95dc6ef5e1f51838c152845c
https://gyazo.com/31e2f9b3c89d1f84b38aa6f9e072ffe8
https://gyazo.com/76d9d80a653d2e5b969f7d50d9448e3b
https://gyazo.com/03a58d321395dd24604bf5632b7e7263
https://gyazo.com/ca675baa5ecd61f24a3154d638e50b00
https://gyazo.com/a735ac3daf7688b174c6639d7357f41e
Here you go. This was from thunderpick. If you have the time and patience to check and compare the the previous screenshots, you can confirm what i said is true.
Uhh... actually, if you don't mind, what I am looking for is the bets on other casinos for the same matches? The eggs in other baskets things? Though much appreciated, images above is about Thunderpick, which... is the same as the previous ones. Let me see if I can find something useful to add more weight to your case, but I'll much appreciate if you happen to also put bets on other casinos [other than thunderpick] that you also put on BetPanda.
But what i posted is exactly that. Bets on thunderpick for the same exact matches, you can even see the dates on it.
Oh, sorry for being a bit unclear. I mean by "how and why" is how do you place those bets on which casinos and why them? I am simply trying to understand your steps here, to understand what the provider said, not trying to put words "arbing" into your mouth. So, you opened several tabs of different casinos, with different providers, compare their odds and choose one or two amongst many casinos that opened altogether on those tabs, then you put bets on what you deemed fits you best? Or were it across devices?
I'll try to explain the best i can.
So let's say i have 4 tabs open in 4 different casinos, and i want to place a bet on a team. Let's say (just as an example) that my stake is 200 EUR. I will then place 50 euro on each one site. Like i said, spreading the eggs in many baskets. Odd's do not matter, and i am not picking which one is the best, whatever the is at, is what i bet. You asked if i used multiple devices to place my bets? If so, no. Always same device.
Ok, this might sounds like too much to ask, but I can't explain the reason why I ask for the time being. Dare I assume you also put your eggs on other baskets on the bets depicted on the screenshots? If you did, is it possible for you to help me understand the matter by showing me those baskets and its eggs? Uhh... I mean the screenshots of the exact bets of the same events in different casinos, to prove that only the one in BetPanda is cancelled.
https://gyazo.com/a0e1693c2293a59b510c2f7138e14eed
https://gyazo.com/2c541ceb95dc6ef5e1f51838c152845c
https://gyazo.com/31e2f9b3c89d1f84b38aa6f9e072ffe8
https://gyazo.com/76d9d80a653d2e5b969f7d50d9448e3b
https://gyazo.com/03a58d321395dd24604bf5632b7e7263
https://gyazo.com/ca675baa5ecd61f24a3154d638e50b00
https://gyazo.com/a735ac3daf7688b174c6639d7357f41e
Here you go. This was from thunderpick. If you have the time and patience to check and compare the the previous screenshots, you can confirm what i said is true.