You certainly do understand that, though I am "your eyes", you can't see them yourselves. Even me getting a clearance to see and verify it might be difficult. Sharing it to other being [even the owner of the data themselves] is next to impossible, I believe. That said, I'll assure you that I am fair and I report what my eyes see.

Hmm, this is interesting.

So, I previously said that I have barest idea of what OP tried to convey with his supporting evidence [screenshots] as it's quite distorted from my screen and I don't have enough brainpower and space on my plate at that time to analyze the image. So I take OP's words for granted.

And then we move and move and ended up on an attempt of settlement, and I didn't look twice as I take OP's word at face value, that his bets are winning suppose they are not unilaterally cancelled by BetFury, so I didn't look twice.

Upon above prompt, I spend a long long hour running the whole screenshots one by one, below should be the real result, suppose BetFury didn't cancel the bets and let them go to their end naturally, where two images are like what BGC said above, that none of the bets were winning combo-bets. And the other one, I mark the open bets that's valid for winning [suppose not voided] in green, and the ones that'll be a losing leg and mark the bet as losing combo in red. As well as marking in yellow where the cashout value won't matter much as the bets will be a losing combo-bet anyway:

[supporting images of the result according to quick google search are below the line]
[each image in this post is in full-linked mode, so the bigger resolution for eye-comfort is just one click away]
[sans the two combo-bets at the bottom of image #3 as it didn't show details of the bets.







So, OP, with that new fact unearthed, our opening number, suppose you want to settle with the cashout of eligible bets paid to you, will be far from 330,000, it will be as below, neglecting the two combo-bets that's unclear:



And if we substract the amount with what they already returned to you, we'll be on USD 72,175.92.

I'll ask you once again if you're willing to take that 40,000 USD and be satisfied with it and mark the case as resolved, or pursue that other 32,176 in other way that is out of my business and mind how and where and what.



This is the best you can get, if we do it your way, to

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So, I think it's safe to say it's indeed an interdepartmental miscummunication. We can try to fix this. OP, mind to share me your email address by PM? My contact will need that to zeroing into your email and check and perhaps put things in motion.

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If I may requote myself below to reply your question, though you've nicely quote it yourself above, as well as to serve as a reply to your PM, I do hope you will update us once your case got resolved through your attempt.

If that reply above is received once you sent email to recovery [and suppose that email is a reply from recovery@bcgame], I believe it's a simple interdepartmental-misunderstanding where my contact has arranged for the refund, but perhaps the recovery team mistaken your email as someone else's. I've nudged my contact, and ask them a specific subject you should send your email under, so the team will know it's you.

I understand correctly that your number is then 205,000 USD? Of which come from the fund available for cashout [330,000] minus the amount already returned to you, 125,000? And you will not settle for something less? Something closer to their offer of 40,000?

Received and conveyed the address. Will inform you with TXID once I heard from BetPanda's side.

holydarkness, Do you think this discussion has stopped!?
Is there no more hope for a review of the case?
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Sorry, got your case slipped from my attention for a second here.

Yes, I'm afraid, their decision is final. I asked them your stat as per what I wrote in quoted post above, and they tell me that they've return best they can, so that your total withdrawal and deposit matched. And that they're firm with their decision, because they can't do further than this, as they can't inquire an investigation to their provider.

I think that kind of evidence can't be provided for public consumption due to their private nature and it probably also contain the casino's detection algorithm. If you don't mind, I'll be your eyes and get them to explain further about this verdict along with their supporting evidence?

You what, now?

When I read BC.Game Support's reply above, I thought you simply multi-acc with one account already verified, thus creating a clash of documents on their database. But apparently, you're multi-acc, gambling underaged, and falsifying KYC? Wow, ok.

To be fair, it's not 40,000. In total, it'll be 165,129, an exact half of the cashout. the first 125,000 had been returned through return of stake and 5,000 bonus. But I take it that you're refusing to accept the deal and it is off the table? Upon your confirmation, I'll inform my contact that you choose not to accept, and after that, I'll withdraw myself from this matter.

Moving your reply from other thread to your own so we won't derail that thread and stay relevant on each threads.

Uhh... I might be mixing things up, no thanks to the necromancer above you, that I have to re-read several threads, but I understand you're ok with initial deposit returned? Because, I think that's best I can try to pull, the same as that player: a return of deposit and voiding all losts and wins, and that's 1,000 USD.''

If you're good with this [I won't promise you anything here], I'll try to talk to my contact.

I've inquire for more substantial evidence for that counter-allegation of multi-acc, as well as direct contact with their sister casino from my contact. My contact themselves said that it might be difficult as it is completely out of their jurisdiction [we're no longer talking inter-department here, it's --safe to say-- inter-entity], but they'll try.

At the same time, I've also reached my other contact on BC to get a more direct contact with BCPoker, still bumping on dead-end here. So, if you can have a bit more patience, that'll be much appreciated.

Sorry, I kinda lose track of which case is which and what, after the member above [and another member who have dispute against this casino] kinda necromanced all of the threads against BP and made a mess since some of them are already resolved. Yours, got dragged as I basically ignore all BetPanda related matters until I have more free time at hand.

Let me get to your case again.

The fact? LOL. Again, the misleading narrative, huh? It grows upon your pile of unaddressed points I kindly ask you to clarify, and the reason why I don't put you on ignore, but rather manually ignoring you and treat your post like a toothless dog barking: because you have tendency to spin narrative.

XYes cases got paid despite the violation is no thanks to you, it happened after a thorough talk with their representatives and as a gesture of their good will. Your assholeness, as proven, lead them to leave the forum for good as few days after you "help with the case", the casino withdrawn themselves completely from the forum. And only god knows what this "disagreement" you have with them is, that prompt them to leave the forum. I was fine talking with them for few weeks, and in couple of days, after you offer your "help", they leave. Mysterious, huh?

I'll add this to point 6 of questions that I'll repeat each time you try to mislead people and smear me, to put light into who you really are. Point 6: what disagreement is this that made them think the forum is not for them?

Next, holy ruled against the 300,000 case against BetFury? holy simply lose interest in going back and forth between the player and the casino and interested in getting them into a number to settle instead. holy said and holy quote:


So, apparently holy ruled against the player when he doesn't interested on the whodunnit and chase a number to settle instead? Hmm... interesting.

Oh, while I am addressing your post, I certainly not the only one missing the irony here, right? Though at this point, it's rather moot as IIRC you've proudly declare your stance on cases on numerous time:


You are taking side, so what are you doing here? On a section of the forum that requires neutrality?

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Point 6: what disagreement is this that made a casino think the forum is not for them and leave for good just couple days after you "help with the case" because you "don't see eye to eye" with the casino?

Shoot me your Shuffle username, I'll nudge Tim, in case he didn't attend to this thread anymore. Casinos reps [like... most casinos] tend to leave a thread once they deemed it resolved.

Either you wrote your own thread, or I [or perhaps Tim himself] will nudge you by PM once resolved, suppose you don't raise your own. Writing here, though, is borderline OOT.

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OP, Tuertle, lock this thread, please? The button is at the bottom left page.

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Uhh... I do get a clarification from them about "approved", I'll need to confirm and be sure we're on the same page and same understanding, but they're already unreachable by now. I'll relay tomorrow, once they made themselves available once more.

This is to double confirm [already did that through PM] and to publicly inform the overseers that I've got the address, I'll relay that to my contact, and will relay here the steps needed to be taken to proceed once I heard from them. It's night time in my contact's timezone and they're already asleep [I believe]. So... probably tomorrow.