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Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
If you use common sense they would've already terminated my KYC'ed or both accounts right because if I were multi-accounting?. Not just limiting the account from receiving the weekly and monthly and participating in tournaments but I can deposit and play?
Are you playing with deposits to your both accounts? Also, do you use the same device and make deposits from the same wallet address? They should have blocked your account already if you have done this. Since how long you are playing with two accounts there? It is mysterious if Duelbits team haven't blocked your account completely despite knowing about your multiple accounts.Because they don't care about multi accounting unless you are a winning player. The only thing Duelbits care about is money. Multi accounting and whatnot is just an excuse for them to ban winning players who take advantage of their promotions. In my case there is not even any evidence of multi accounting, and they still tried to use that as an excuse. They only want degens/losing players to win these promotions.
Re: Duelbits.com falsely accussing me and wont pay out my 4000$
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So finally Duelbits replied to me via email:
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Good afternoon,
Thank you for your message regarding the removal of the $4,000 credited from our recent promotional tournament. After a full review of your account activity, we are writing to confirm that this action was taken in accordance with our Terms and Conditions, and the decision will stand.
Our internal investigation revealed clear violations of Duelbits' Bonus and Promotion Abuse policies, specifically the coordinated activity between your account and an affiliated account that deposited into the same cryptocurrency wallet (0xeC5f1817a8fbA834Fdb444eDC1fffa7544d11242). This constitutes use of a shared payment account, which is a direct breach of our promotional rules.
Violations Identified:
1. Coordinated Wallet Use & Payment Method Overlap
Both you and the referred affiliate deposited significant funds into the same destination wallet, strongly suggesting either shared control or coordinated play — both of which violate:
“Promotions are limited to one entry per customer. We only permit one customer to participate from each household address, IP address, email address, same payment account or shared computer.”
(General Promotion & Bonus Terms)
2. Promotion Abuse Clause Breach
The above activity also falls under our abuse provisions:
“Duelbits reserves the right to exclude any player or group of players who it deems abusing any promotion, or for any reason at its sole discretion.”
“If it is discovered that a group of players are using the same betting patterns and are connected via but not limited to location, banking pattern or IP, Duelbits reserves the right to confiscate bonus winnings and/or deposit.”
(Bonus and Promotion Abuse Terms)
Our Right to Act:
Duelbits explicitly reserves the right to withhold or cancel winnings that stem from any abuse, coordinated activity, or manipulation. Furthermore:
“Any account found to be directly engaged in fraudulent activities or associated with accounts involved in such activities shall be disqualified from participating in future promotional offers.”
“In the event of any dispute, the decision of Duelbits will be final.”
Compliance with Licensing Requirements
We understand your concerns regarding licensing and regulatory standards. We assure you that all actions taken are consistent with the Curaçao eGaming guidelines, our internal fraud prevention protocols, and our commitment to maintaining a fair gaming environment for all participants. Full evidence of the violation is documented and available for regulatory review if formally requested.
While we acknowledge your disappointment, the removal of tournament winnings was a direct consequence of clear, documented abuse of our promotional system. We will not be reinstating these funds, and this decision is final.
Kind regards,
Duelbits Head of Support
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The wallet the mention is the hotwallet of cwallet.com: 0xeC5f1817a8fbA834Fdb444eDC1fffa7544d11242
They have million of users, and I am pretty sure Duelbits is aware of that.
Next false reason they give is that we have used same bettingpatterns.
I asked the person who reffed me, he has barely played there and didn't even participated in this tournament, so idk what they are talking about.
So finally Duelbits replied to me via email:
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Good afternoon,
Thank you for your message regarding the removal of the $4,000 credited from our recent promotional tournament. After a full review of your account activity, we are writing to confirm that this action was taken in accordance with our Terms and Conditions, and the decision will stand.
Our internal investigation revealed clear violations of Duelbits' Bonus and Promotion Abuse policies, specifically the coordinated activity between your account and an affiliated account that deposited into the same cryptocurrency wallet (0xeC5f1817a8fbA834Fdb444eDC1fffa7544d11242). This constitutes use of a shared payment account, which is a direct breach of our promotional rules.
Violations Identified:
1. Coordinated Wallet Use & Payment Method Overlap
Both you and the referred affiliate deposited significant funds into the same destination wallet, strongly suggesting either shared control or coordinated play — both of which violate:
“Promotions are limited to one entry per customer. We only permit one customer to participate from each household address, IP address, email address, same payment account or shared computer.”
(General Promotion & Bonus Terms)
2. Promotion Abuse Clause Breach
The above activity also falls under our abuse provisions:
“Duelbits reserves the right to exclude any player or group of players who it deems abusing any promotion, or for any reason at its sole discretion.”
“If it is discovered that a group of players are using the same betting patterns and are connected via but not limited to location, banking pattern or IP, Duelbits reserves the right to confiscate bonus winnings and/or deposit.”
(Bonus and Promotion Abuse Terms)
Our Right to Act:
Duelbits explicitly reserves the right to withhold or cancel winnings that stem from any abuse, coordinated activity, or manipulation. Furthermore:
“Any account found to be directly engaged in fraudulent activities or associated with accounts involved in such activities shall be disqualified from participating in future promotional offers.”
“In the event of any dispute, the decision of Duelbits will be final.”
Compliance with Licensing Requirements
We understand your concerns regarding licensing and regulatory standards. We assure you that all actions taken are consistent with the Curaçao eGaming guidelines, our internal fraud prevention protocols, and our commitment to maintaining a fair gaming environment for all participants. Full evidence of the violation is documented and available for regulatory review if formally requested.
While we acknowledge your disappointment, the removal of tournament winnings was a direct consequence of clear, documented abuse of our promotional system. We will not be reinstating these funds, and this decision is final.
Kind regards,
Duelbits Head of Support
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The wallet the mention is the hotwallet of cwallet.com: 0xeC5f1817a8fbA834Fdb444eDC1fffa7544d11242
They have million of users, and I am pretty sure Duelbits is aware of that.
Next false reason they give is that we have used same bettingpatterns.
I asked the person who reffed me, he has barely played there and didn't even participated in this tournament, so idk what they are talking about.
It's funny how these casinos refer to this type of behavior as fraud when the player has played within the rules of the promotions and the site. They are just not happy the player is winning and proceed to call this "fraud". The real fraud here is Duelbits or any other casino or people condoning this type of behavior from casinos.
Re: Duelbits scammed 11.5k winnings because I haven't degened enough
Though I can't vouch and say with similar degree of confidence I'll say when it come to certain several other casinos, as I barely in touch with Duelbits's staff, I think it is still safe to assume same situation are "enforced" upon them as what enforced upon the staffs of other casinos I am in touch with, namely they are not allowed by their corporate to speak on a record what is not provable, in case the situation got escalated to court room and the same evidence they said they have and/or provide are asked and/or checked by experts.
So, is there a possibility that could explain "the two people" situation? Someone else walking into the room? You're sitting with your roommate durirng liveliness check? You shave your beard and dye your hair pink? Help me understand this by walk me through what you can remember when you perform KYC.
So, is there a possibility that could explain "the two people" situation? Someone else walking into the room? You're sitting with your roommate durirng liveliness check? You shave your beard and dye your hair pink? Help me understand this by walk me through what you can remember when you perform KYC.
There is nothing that I can think of besides trying to do the liveliness test on different IPs/devices. I do not remember what I looked like when I did it lol. If you want a fuller picture on Duelbits, you should take a look at their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279042.10720. Similar actions have been taken against other users as well who have been winning tournaments on Duelbits. They are also much more senior on bitcointalk. Even if you don't trust me, you should trust those members who are trusted members of this forum who have had very similar things happen to their accounts, although their accounts weren't banned, at least not yet, but remember at first I wasn't banned either. Given everything that's happened recently, I don't think you can put Duelbits on the same level of trust as those other bigger casinos you are in contact with.
On which part of my post exactly hinted to you that I don't believe you? All I'm asking is a help to recall your situation when you performed the KYC, in hope that it might help us understand how they come with that accusation, which was proven to be right by the ADR.
I said "even if you don't trust me". I didn't know if you believed me or not, I was just saying if you didn't there are similar cases from Duelbits with more senior and trusted members of this forum. I don't know why you are being so defensive lol.
But it's clear by your words now "proven to be right by the ADR" whose side you are on. From my perspective at least, the evidence is 100% fabricated, or Duelbits tried to twist the narrative somehow by using the fact I tried to do the liveliness test from different tests/devices. The ADR is merely examining the evidence given to them and has no way of telling whether the evidence is real or fake since whatever is provided by the casino is always assumed to be legitimate evidence. Thus, these types of mediations are mostly biased and pointless. I will most likely be proceeding with filing a complaint with their licensing authority.
Re: Duelbits scammed 11.5k winnings because I haven't degened enough
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And as always, we are bound by ADR's decision.
And as always, we are bound by ADR's decision.
https://prnt.sc/eaazXMJ_6Vab
This is the evidence they provided, which says I tried to pass liveliness test as two people. I know for a fact this is a lie. I don't think CG is on on this, which indicates to me Duelbits either fabricated evidence or tried to claim I tried to pass the KYC from different IP/devices (which did happen as I remember accessing the link on my phone at work and also on another device besides my PC).
Also, please take a look at the timelime of events. This "evidence" should have came up when I passed KYC for the first time in January, but instead of banning me then, my account was unlocked, I was able to withdraw the balance, and I was even granted VIP status after losing. All this stuff only started happening to me after I started winning on the account. They decided to ban me after they have already passed my KYC and allowing me to play for months. Everything was good when I was losing, and I am sure it would still be if I am still down money on the account.
Though I can't vouch and say with similar degree of confidence I'll say when it come to certain several other casinos, as I barely in touch with Duelbits's staff, I think it is still safe to assume same situation are "enforced" upon them as what enforced upon the staffs of other casinos I am in touch with, namely they are not allowed by their corporate to speak on a record what is not provable, in case the situation got escalated to court room and the same evidence they said they have and/or provide are asked and/or checked by experts.
So, is there a possibility that could explain "the two people" situation? Someone else walking into the room? You're sitting with your roommate durirng liveliness check? You shave your beard and dye your hair pink? Help me understand this by walk me through what you can remember when you perform KYC.
There is nothing that I can think of besides trying to do the liveliness test on different IPs/devices. I do not remember what I looked like when I did it lol. If you want a fuller picture on Duelbits, you should take a look at their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279042.10720. Similar actions have been taken against other users as well who have been winning tournaments on Duelbits. Given everything that's happened recently, I don't think you can put them on the same level of trust as those other bigger casinos you are in contact with.
Re: Duelbits.com falsely accussing me and wont pay out my 4000$
I asked about the KYC, we are both not KYC. He participated once in a tournament at start, but didn't won big (like $25).
I would say if we both did KYC, this would take away the false claim. I even offered them to invite us both in discord chat or something, to show we are 2 totally different persons.
Weird thing is that the option to KYC is turned of for me it seems:
https://ibb.co/jvcnMQYv
I don't know how or why they think I reffed myself, since this is 100% not the case. It seems to me this one is pretty easy to proof its not the case. Beside this, they can not have evidence of it or anything, since its simply not true.
Another update:
I am in contact with one of the other winners on discord. I added him as contact after he asked me if they finally fixed the issue.
He ended 3rd and I ended 1st.
1st prize is 4k, 2nd 2k, 3rd 1k. He received 1k though, instead of 2k. Shouldn't it be normal that he ended 2nd if they removed me from the tournament? Instead they just took that 4k and pocketed it themself.
I would say if we both did KYC, this would take away the false claim. I even offered them to invite us both in discord chat or something, to show we are 2 totally different persons.
Weird thing is that the option to KYC is turned of for me it seems:
https://ibb.co/jvcnMQYv
I don't know how or why they think I reffed myself, since this is 100% not the case. It seems to me this one is pretty easy to proof its not the case. Beside this, they can not have evidence of it or anything, since its simply not true.
Another update:
I am in contact with one of the other winners on discord. I added him as contact after he asked me if they finally fixed the issue.
He ended 3rd and I ended 1st.
1st prize is 4k, 2nd 2k, 3rd 1k. He received 1k though, instead of 2k. Shouldn't it be normal that he ended 2nd if they removed me from the tournament? Instead they just took that 4k and pocketed it themself.
When they remove or disqualify someone, they don't give the prize to the next place. They just don't pay it out. As far as I know out of the bigger casinos only Duelbits does this. This again shines some light on the intention of their actions.
Re: Duelbits.com falsely accussing me and wont pay out my 4000$
Hi,
I didn't ref anyone myself, I used a reflink from the one who mentioned the platform to me. It's not hard to proof I guess we are not the same person. I used his 'refer a friend' link, which exactly is what happened. I know him only via telegram, not in real life. We not even in the same country.
I won a tournament for which I had to deposit allot and wager allot.
I was eligible to participate in that tournament and won it. I wagered like 200k in total alone for that tournament, I spent allot of money and time in it.
I lost less though then the reward itself, but it is not a rule you have to lose more then the reward itself?
It cannot be that if people win a challenge/tournament and they got lucky a bit (odds are not in our favour in general), they won't issue the reward? I didn't broke any of the tournament rules.
It feels like a casino saying: everyone is welcome, as long as you lose. If you manage to gain a little profit, we will take that away from you.
Like what would be the purpose for a player to play at all then?
Its more rare to have profit then loss, and overall I'm pretty sure the casino wins. A few get lucky, most don't.
Isn't it that how it works?
But it's just speculation I guess, I don't even know exactly what they mean by it, but I am not aware of any abuse.
I didn't ref anyone myself, I used a reflink from the one who mentioned the platform to me. It's not hard to proof I guess we are not the same person. I used his 'refer a friend' link, which exactly is what happened. I know him only via telegram, not in real life. We not even in the same country.
I won a tournament for which I had to deposit allot and wager allot.
I was eligible to participate in that tournament and won it. I wagered like 200k in total alone for that tournament, I spent allot of money and time in it.
I lost less though then the reward itself, but it is not a rule you have to lose more then the reward itself?
It cannot be that if people win a challenge/tournament and they got lucky a bit (odds are not in our favour in general), they won't issue the reward? I didn't broke any of the tournament rules.
It feels like a casino saying: everyone is welcome, as long as you lose. If you manage to gain a little profit, we will take that away from you.
Like what would be the purpose for a player to play at all then?
Its more rare to have profit then loss, and overall I'm pretty sure the casino wins. A few get lucky, most don't.
Isn't it that how it works?
But it's just speculation I guess, I don't even know exactly what they mean by it, but I am not aware of any abuse.
You said it yourself. You managed to lose than you were expected to win from the tournament's prize. Duelbits doesn't like this and will do anything possible to restrict and even ban this type of player. This is exactly what happened to me, Roycillik, and Bitinity.
Re: Duelbits scammed 11.5k winnings because I haven't degened enough
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2025/03/26 - Account is permanently closed due to "multi-accounting", which hasn't been an issue since they unbanned me in January.
2025/03/26 - Account is permanently closed due to "multi-accounting", which hasn't been an issue since they unbanned me in January.
The situation here is, and the major probem, CasinoGuru received and verified evidences of multi-acc given by Duelbits, and it seems there is not any doubt in their findings that what's provided is valid and the casino made the right call. They find evidences of multiple account being connected.
And as always, we are bound by ADR's decision.
https://prnt.sc/eaazXMJ_6Vab
This is the evidence they provided, which says I tried to pass liveliness test as two people. I know for a fact this is a lie. I don't think CG is on on this, which indicates to me Duelbits either fabricated evidence or tried to claim I tried to pass the KYC from different IP/devices (which did happen as I remember accessing the link on my phone at work and also on another device besides my PC).
Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
CG got back to me and told me about the "evidence" Duelbits provided for banning me. Looks I was right about them fabricating evidence. They tried to claim two people attempted to pass the liveliness test when I know for a fact this is a lie. Only thing I might have done is accessing the kyc link on different devices that I own which were connected to different networks, but never two different people. That's just absurd. https://prnt.sc/eaazXMJ_6Vab
Here is also an exact timeline of everything in my case. You can make your own judgement:
2024/12/03 - I make my first depo and start playing on Duelbits
2024/12/08 - After winning $1800 on a slot, which is a large amount compared to how much I was depoing at the time, the account was permanently closed after I tried to withdraw.
2025/01/31 - After mediation with casinoguru, I successfully completed KYC level 5 and had my account unlocked. https://prnt.sc/ApbtanDydxpa
2025/02/10 - I was granted VIP status and a $350 bonus after losing over $10,000 on the account. https://prnt.sc/IB40VECrd5ma
2025/03/07 - I receive an email saying I had been stripped of my VIP status but all other perks remain normal. I am now in profit over $20,000 on my account.
2025/03/17 - I was informed I am no longer eligible to participate even in regular tournaments open to all players and that all the other perks have been stripped as well. Note that I haven't played at all since my VIP got removed.
2025/03/26 - Account is permanently closed due to "multi-accounting", which hasn't been an issue since they unbanned me in January.
Here is also an exact timeline of everything in my case. You can make your own judgement:
2024/12/03 - I make my first depo and start playing on Duelbits
2024/12/08 - After winning $1800 on a slot, which is a large amount compared to how much I was depoing at the time, the account was permanently closed after I tried to withdraw.
2025/01/31 - After mediation with casinoguru, I successfully completed KYC level 5 and had my account unlocked. https://prnt.sc/ApbtanDydxpa
2025/02/10 - I was granted VIP status and a $350 bonus after losing over $10,000 on the account. https://prnt.sc/IB40VECrd5ma
2025/03/07 - I receive an email saying I had been stripped of my VIP status but all other perks remain normal. I am now in profit over $20,000 on my account.
2025/03/17 - I was informed I am no longer eligible to participate even in regular tournaments open to all players and that all the other perks have been stripped as well. Note that I haven't played at all since my VIP got removed.
2025/03/26 - Account is permanently closed due to "multi-accounting", which hasn't been an issue since they unbanned me in January.
Re: Duelbits scammed 11.5k winnings because I haven't degened enough
Casinoguru ruled against me, saying I have multiple accounts. Refused to provide any evidence of course.
If you look at the history of this case, you will notice the first time I got banned was also for multi accounting, but they unbanned me after I completed KYC level 5, and now they are using the same reason again. There is 0 reason for me to make another account when my account got unbanned and when I was playing on it and even less so when they started taking actions against my account, because there is chance they could just scam me again. I know for a fact this is the only account I have on Duelbits. If CG isn't in on this, then whatever evidence Duelbits sent to CG is completely fabricated.
If you look at the history of this case, you will notice the first time I got banned was also for multi accounting, but they unbanned me after I completed KYC level 5, and now they are using the same reason again. There is 0 reason for me to make another account when my account got unbanned and when I was playing on it and even less so when they started taking actions against my account, because there is chance they could just scam me again. I know for a fact this is the only account I have on Duelbits. If CG isn't in on this, then whatever evidence Duelbits sent to CG is completely fabricated.
Do you mind to provide us with their email or anything as a response that inform you that your level-5 KYC has been approved? It's just a hunch, but probably they're temporarily unlocking your account to let you regain access to all of your assets and to withdraw them all, and after some time, they'll permanently lock it. It might be explained in one of the email correspondencies you had with them? If you don't mind looking?
It's not temporary. The account was unlocked for months. I played on it after it was unlocked and even gained VIP status after I lost 10k. This was all posted in the thread (although I think the links expired) but I will post again:
And here is when I completed KYC level 5 and got the account unlocked:
Please see attached screenshots of when I passed my KYC and when they gave me VIP.
Here is also an exact timeline of everything on this case:
2024/12/03 - I make my first depo and start playing on Duelbits
2024/12/08 - After winning $1800 on a slot, which is a large amount compared to how much I was depoing at the time, the account was permanently closed after I tried to withdraw.
2025/01/31 - After mediation with casinoguru, I successfully completed KYC level 5 and had my account unlocked.
2025/02/10 - I was granted VIP status and a $350 bonus after losing over $10,000 on the account.
2025/03/07 - I receive an email saying I had been stripped of my VIP status but all other perks remain normal. I am now in profit over $20,000 on my account.
2025/03/17 - I was informed I am no longer eligible to participate even in regular tournaments open to all players and that all the other perks have been stripped as well. Note that I haven't played at all since my VIP got removed.
2025/03/26 - Account is permanently closed due to "multi-accounting", which hasn't been an issue since they unbanned me in January.
Re: Duelbits.com falsely accussing me and wont pay out my 4000$
You are not the only one.
Look at my case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5534598.20
Two others who are much more senior and trusted members of the forum also got banned and had their perks stripped: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279042.10700
At best you will be banned from tournaments and have your bonuses stripped. At worst you will be banned completely while they fabricate evidence and say you multi accounted.
Duelbits bans anyone who is up in the long run on their site. Don't play there.
Look at my case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5534598.20
Two others who are much more senior and trusted members of the forum also got banned and had their perks stripped: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279042.10700
At best you will be banned from tournaments and have your bonuses stripped. At worst you will be banned completely while they fabricate evidence and say you multi accounted.
Duelbits bans anyone who is up in the long run on their site. Don't play there.
Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
Looks like the winner of last week's originals tournament didn't get paid out and got accused of fraudulent practices: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5541622.0
In addition, CG ruled my case saying I multi accounted. If you look at the complete history of my case, you will notice the first time I got banned was also for multi accounting, but they unbanned me after I completed KYC level 5, and I even gained VIP after losing 10k and now they are using the same reason again to ban me after I am up on Duelbits. There is 0 reason for me to make another account when my account got unbanned and when I was playing on it and even less so when they started taking actions against my account, because there is chance they could just scam me again. I know for a fact this is the only account I have on Duelbits. If CG isn't in on this, then whatever evidence Duelbits sent to CG is completely fabricated.
In addition, CG ruled my case saying I multi accounted. If you look at the complete history of my case, you will notice the first time I got banned was also for multi accounting, but they unbanned me after I completed KYC level 5, and I even gained VIP after losing 10k and now they are using the same reason again to ban me after I am up on Duelbits. There is 0 reason for me to make another account when my account got unbanned and when I was playing on it and even less so when they started taking actions against my account, because there is chance they could just scam me again. I know for a fact this is the only account I have on Duelbits. If CG isn't in on this, then whatever evidence Duelbits sent to CG is completely fabricated.
Re: Duelbits scammed 11.5k winnings because I haven't degened enough
Casinoguru ruled against me, saying I have multiple accounts. Refused to provide any evidence of course.
If you look at the history of this case, you will notice the first time I got banned was also for multi accounting, but they unbanned me after I completed KYC level 5, and now they are using the same reason again. There is 0 reason for me to make another account when my account got unbanned and when I was playing on it and even less so when they started taking actions against my account, because there is chance they could just scam me again. I know for a fact this is the only account I have on Duelbits. If CG isn't in on this, then whatever evidence Duelbits sent to CG is completely fabricated.
If you look at the history of this case, you will notice the first time I got banned was also for multi accounting, but they unbanned me after I completed KYC level 5, and now they are using the same reason again. There is 0 reason for me to make another account when my account got unbanned and when I was playing on it and even less so when they started taking actions against my account, because there is chance they could just scam me again. I know for a fact this is the only account I have on Duelbits. If CG isn't in on this, then whatever evidence Duelbits sent to CG is completely fabricated.
Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
Only one hope here, it is not seeing other complaints from users who get banned or excluded from their promotions because the users make profit regularly from the tournaments.
Most probably, we will see similar steps from them if the new users also manage to maintain profit through the tournament prizes. Duelbits team hasn't changed the rules of the tournaments yet. I believe they will bring changes in the tournament rules if similar thing happens again. Let's wait and see.However, it's better to change their Ts&Cs if it's causing much trouble in paying big winnings. If the Ts&Cs are stringent enough and they can reduce the winnings to afford them to pay, why not?
The worst part of this is in all of our cases, we were banned a few hours or basically right before the tournaments ended or before a big bonus dropped (the monthly). They decided to change the status on our accounts after we have spent and lost money competing in their tournaments. This means going forward even if a really good promotion opens up, it cannot be trusted because we could be spending thousands chasing it only to get our placing taken away at the very last minute. If Duelbits did the right thing and paid out the current tournaments with the already established rules before changing them, then yes they can be trusted, and maybe Bitinity can open his account again, but unfortunately this is not the case here.
Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
My CG case against Duelbits is finally reopened: https://casino.guru/duelbits-casino-player-s-account-has-been-closed-without
Let's see what comes of this. They have been silent here, but I think they will respond in the CG case.
Let's see what comes of this. They have been silent here, but I think they will respond in the CG case.
Re: Duelbits scammed 11.5k winnings because I haven't degened enough
UPDATE
The CG case is finally reopened: https://casino.guru/duelbits-casino-player-s-account-has-been-closed-without
It took quite a while because they didn't allow me to open a new case and insisted I reopen the previous one, but nevertheless the case is now open, and it's probably better like this anyways because it has details of the previous case.
The CG case is finally reopened: https://casino.guru/duelbits-casino-player-s-account-has-been-closed-without
It took quite a while because they didn't allow me to open a new case and insisted I reopen the previous one, but nevertheless the case is now open, and it's probably better like this anyways because it has details of the previous case.
This is a typical time delay tactic from Duelbits.
You will most likely get asked for KYC next and there is a good chance your account could be closed permanently while they stand behind ToS. There have been a lot of problems with Duelbits recently, you can look at their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279042.10680
If you can still bet however, that is a good sign, and you might get your funds released, but I would still be very careful going forward given all the problems this platform has had recently. If you can't bet and your withdrawals are stuck, 99% chance you will get banned while they time delay using KYC.
You will most likely get asked for KYC next and there is a good chance your account could be closed permanently while they stand behind ToS. There have been a lot of problems with Duelbits recently, you can look at their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279042.10680
If you can still bet however, that is a good sign, and you might get your funds released, but I would still be very careful going forward given all the problems this platform has had recently. If you can't bet and your withdrawals are stuck, 99% chance you will get banned while they time delay using KYC.
Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
Taking Duelbits for example, for the average gambler who plays a good mix of slots (4% house edge) and table games (0.5%-1% house edge), their overall house edge is probably somewhere around 2%. After all bonuses/rakeback/lossback however, this number is closer to 1%, meaning 1M wagered will produce about 10k profit for Duelbits. If you take a look at the daily and weekly leaderboards on Duelbits, they probably get 10M wagered per week as a very optimistic measure judging by the top 10 in the weekly leaderboard, which falls off very quickly, which means 100k NGR (net gaming revenue). Keep in mind the top wagerers probably play a much higher percentage of table games vs slots, so this is a very optimistic estimate for Duelbits.
As far as I understand it, here is a hypothetical statistic of a user who plays perfectly. Many people who play in casinos do not even think about such things. They just pick any games they like and play them according to their intuition. You're talking about a “good mix of slots”, which is a concept for advanced players. A lot of people just go in and drain their deposit with no bonuses, no cashback. They just come in, spend the game balance and leave. First of all, to assume how much earns casino, you need to understand what categories of users play there, what percentage of advanced players or bonus-hunters, what percentage of amateurs, what percentage of those who do not need bonuses, and is important only the process of the game.
Someone also said Duelbits has not fallen off in terms of deposit numbers and wagers. This is not true. 1-2 years ago they got 5-10 times as much wager weekly. Their top whales all quit the site for some reason early last year, which was the start of the downfall of Duelbits.
I mentioned above the open statistics from SimilarWeb for January, February and March. So, based on it, there was even an increase in traffic. What was 1-2 years ago was out of the question.
There is no strategy when it comes to gambling. It's a game of math. The house edge is the same regardless of how much risk and what slots they choose to play. The playing strategy merely changes their variance, not their EV>
Casino earns theo (house edge times wager), which is basically their EV against players, in the long run. Some get lucky, some don't, but this is what they earn in the long run.
Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
I think you guys, especially the non gamblers in this forum, are overestimating how much revenue Duelbits generates. While it is true casinos are always profitable against players in the long run, their profit margin is very thin online. Taking Duelbits for example, for the average gambler who plays a good mix of slots (4% house edge) and table games (0.5%-1% house edge), their overall house edge is probably somewhere around 2%. After all bonuses/rakeback/lossback however, this number is closer to 1%, meaning 1M wagered will produce about 10k profit for Duelbits. If you take a look at the daily and weekly leaderboards on Duelbits, they probably get 10M wagered per week as a very optimistic measure judging by the top 10 in the weekly leaderboard, which falls off very quickly, which means 100k NGR (net gaming revenue). Keep in mind the top wagerers probably play a much higher percentage of table games vs slots, so this is a very optimistic estimate for Duelbits.
Out of this 100k, they have to pay 10k for the weekly lb, 5k x 7 = 35k for the daily lb. That's already 45k gone, leaving 55k left. This is not even accounting for the tournaments that they stopped running recently. Then there's the costs of staffing, providers (which is at least 10-20% of NGR based on stats from other casinos), marketing (streamers, twitter, bitcointalk, etc). Duelbits is barely profitable with the wagers they get and the promotions they run. I would even say they are losing money overall, which is probably why all this is happening. Someone also said Duelbits has not fallen off in terms of deposit numbers and wagers. This not true. 1-2 years ago they got 5-10 times as much wager weekly. Their top whales all quit the site for some reason, which was the start of the downfall of Duelbits.
Out of this 100k, they have to pay 10k for the weekly lb, 5k x 7 = 35k for the daily lb. That's already 45k gone, leaving 55k left. This is not even accounting for the tournaments that they stopped running recently. Then there's the costs of staffing, providers (which is at least 10-20% of NGR based on stats from other casinos), marketing (streamers, twitter, bitcointalk, etc). Duelbits is barely profitable with the wagers they get and the promotions they run. I would even say they are losing money overall, which is probably why all this is happening. Someone also said Duelbits has not fallen off in terms of deposit numbers and wagers. This not true. 1-2 years ago they got 5-10 times as much wager weekly. Their top whales all quit the site for some reason, which was the start of the downfall of Duelbits.
Re: Duelbits.com|Casino & Sportsbook|VIP|Instant withdrawals!| Conor McGregor
Seems like they realized they weren't making enough revenue to account for all these costs, which is pretty obvious if you look at all the promotions and leaderboards they run vs the amount of wagered they actually get.
It's of course perfectly normal for a company to restructure and reduce costs, but it's very scammy of them to change the rules in the middle of these promotions and disqualify players when players have already played or wagered according to the old rules, and in my case they have even banned my account altogether using multi accounting as an excuse which is obviously not true (since they themselves had admitted they were wrong when they unbanned me the first time).
It's of course perfectly normal for a company to restructure and reduce costs, but it's very scammy of them to change the rules in the middle of these promotions and disqualify players when players have already played or wagered according to the old rules, and in my case they have even banned my account altogether using multi accounting as an excuse which is obviously not true (since they themselves had admitted they were wrong when they unbanned me the first time).
Re: Duelbits scammed 11.5k winnings because I haven't degened enough
Just submitted a CG complaint. Will post the link here when it's published.
It's not a coincidence that similar actions were taken out against two trusted members of bitcointalk a week or so after it happened to me. This all happened right before their monthly dropped.
It's not a coincidence that similar actions were taken out against two trusted members of bitcointalk a week or so after it happened to me. This all happened right before their monthly dropped.