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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
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ahshik753
on 06/03/2025, 20:41:19 UTC
Hello, BitcoinTalk community.

Firstly, apologies for the delayed response.

The OP had their winnings confiscated because of an unsuccessful KYC and a violation of section 8.1 of our Terms and Conditions. The Original Poster’s (OP’s) KYC attempt wasn’t successful because different people performed the KYC during multiple attempts. Unfortunately, I cannot share the footage of the KYC here, but I will try to describe in detail what happened.

Generally, during the KYC process, the camera captures multiple pictures that are transformed into a collage for us. A KYC attempt can be unsuccessful, but users still get 30 days to complete verification, and once a KYC attempt is successful, our security team manually checks all of them.

The first KYC attempt took place on 24th February. During this attempt, no person is seen in the footage/ collage, but someone is pointing the camera at a desktop screen displaying a picture of OP’s identification document.

We have another collage on February 25th; this time, it’s a person taking a selfie. For future clarity, I’ll refer to this person as “Person A”. “Person A” did not match the face of the ID Documentation provided from the day prior.

Another attempt was made on February 26th; this time, we have two new people, “Person B” and “Person C”. These two people appear in the collages: “Person B” is seen while trying to take a picture of the ID Documentation. “Person C” appears in a different collage and is actually the one whose ID we have been provided.

After a manual check, our team noticed 3 different people appeared during the verification processes, and because of this, the KYC wasn’t completed successfully. The OP was not allowed to withdraw their winning amount, but despite this, they can withdraw their full deposited amount.

I hope I was able to explain the situation without sounding too confusing, and due to the nature of the situation, I am not able to share any “evidence” here. OP can obviously submit a case to a mediator like CG or AG if they would like to.


Thanks


- ADante



Hello, thanks for your reply, you or your teammates could reply me this through mail instead of ignoring my mails so i avoid open this threat

I explain what i think that could happen day by day

Day 24 : I try to complete KYC on my laptop as i think KYC is only submit ID, i have photos of me on my personal laptop so i initiate the process , later i see they requiere live photo , i didnt had my ID physically that day as i was on a house of one family member so i didnt complete the process

Day 25: I was on short break on my job, i had my id here physically so i was going to complete KYC , my phone was not loading browser good, internet providers since big riots (you probably dont know about this because media of your countries ignored it but you can search in google)months ago still cant work good in my zone , i could send the link to a friends phone , he clicked and opened on his phone anyways website was not loading, we didnt saw it loaded after 1 or 2 min and our break ended

Day 26: i completed KYC on my work , while i was gonna point to my ID probably another coworker appeared, until i do photo of ID and my selfie, i submited it all and appeared " verification completed"


Half day past they closed my acc


All this is what i think it happened , during my experience completing KYC i always tried and i thought that  was only me and my stuff on frame, i suppose that they providing correct information but im not that dumb to record other people during my KYC , when other people "appeared" i didnt iniate the "photo" phase 

As long as i understood they been recording my camera since i enter the KYC link even i dont complete photos, and using it now as a reason to say i failed completing it

Also the first day they closed my acc i said them that i can provide any photo video or videocall they may need but they been ignoring me since then
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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 04/03/2025, 11:02:37 UTC
Can we all please uhh... relaxed a bit and take it down a notch?

I got a reply of PM from FJ's representative. Their absence [very short absence, to be honest, just a couple of days] were due to a public holiday. They've noticed this thread and will soon come to address the matter once they know more. Until then, let's not take any drastic measure, everyone stays in their seat [definitely the one in their home, not the one in an airplane] and keep it contained in this forum and see if we can get it resolved.

It was a joke  Grin

I think was obvious, i cant imagine anyone flying to curazao , spend in lawyers and sue them there  Cheesy
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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 03/03/2025, 23:20:10 UTC
OP, I know that waiting can be kinda stressful, but it's just two days since I reached their rep with PM and they haven't been online from the day before I sent my PM, so there is a very big likelyhood that they are yet to notice my PM. If you don't mind to wait for a couple more of days, see if they returned to the forum around that time, it'll be very much appreciated.

I think I have their rep's personal contact, though I have yet to ever reach them there, so rest assured that if by [let's set a deadline here] Thursday they are still not yet online and address your matter, I'll try to find a way to gain their attention and bring them here to address it. Does that sound good?

Sure, i already lost hope to recover the funds
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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 03/03/2025, 22:45:30 UTC
Consider yourself lucky they are allowing you to withdraw coins you deposited, they could easily confiscate everything.
I dont trust fortunejack, they have very strict verification procedure and they tried to confiscate money to other users from this forum.
Only way you can beat them if you take them to the court and sue them, if you think you are on true side.


Yes i gona fly from Bangladesh to Curazao court for this  Embarrassed
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Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting
by
ahshik753
on 02/03/2025, 09:55:52 UTC
i had a problem with this casino, a serious one as i think they stole me 11 000 USD, if any moderator can check it.....


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533711.new#new

Generally new accounts claiming promotions will receive the same accusations/multi account so do you claim the deposit bonus or freebet? The first time I created an account and requested my withdrawal I got the same accusation but since I didn't claim any promotion so I can prove there is no reason to have more than one account and that reason is acceptable. I have checked your thread and they give back your deposit while all your winnings are frozen, yeah we don't know if that's fair enough but they don't take your money it's just that your efforts to win it are in vain.

Im not ure but probably i didnt claim any bonus
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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 01/03/2025, 18:24:27 UTC
Fortunejack is a renown casino, so I doubt they want to "scam you". They follow laws and regulations.

Also, in the proof you have submitted, nowhere does Fortunejack tell you that your ban has something to do with too many people being in front of the camera. They are accusing you of having multiple accounts to yourself.

Possible solution to get your account back : contact the casino again and ask to re-submit your KYC. Multiple accounts from the same household might be mistaken for "multiaccounting". But any household member can simply turn  in their own KYC to remedy this unless it is forbidden in the T&C in the first place.

Perhaps you use a VPN? That might be the issue?
Same remedy. Contact the casino and explain the situation.

But if you really do have multiple accounts or otherwise went against the terms of service then that is your own fault. Next time read the whole terms and conditions (T&C).

Please,  be  informed that  due  to  failed  KYC,  there  are  registered  multiple  attempts with different  persons KYC  has  been
considered  AS FAILED, the  winning  has  been declined  you  can  withdraw  only deposit  amount,  after withdrawal,
account will  be  blocked


You can see this on the third image.

Also in other mail they say :

Please,  be  informed  that   KYC  is  not  considered  as  Passed,  due  to violation  of  T&C,  you  can  withdraw  only  deposit  amount 
after  withdrawal  account  is  blocked , the  decision is  final. 


I dont know what to interpretate, in one mail that im multiaccounting and in other that i didnt pass KYC, when im verified and got the message that my verification is completed.

Also not giving any option to pass again the KYC if is failed, i can do any photo or video they want, so after this how not to think that they want to scam me.



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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 01/03/2025, 16:59:19 UTC
Snip

To start with, let me help you quote your post in other to be able to view your images posted, but I discovered they aren't showing, something must be wrong from your posting.

To the discussion in full, I don't seem to believe on everything been said here without viewing any evidence to back it up, but am surprised at the because fortune Jack has been in this platform for a while and there have been many users in the platform right from this end and they are not complaining anything about the use of the gambling platform, why should your case be different if there is nothing wrong from what you have done that might have warrants for the restriction place on your account from making withdrawals.

I didnt understood what you said as english is not my main language, i think everyone can see the images.

Yes i saw the reviews of fortunejack here, thats why i choosed the casino, as you can see the accused me of 2 things:

1-Multiaccount,i cant justify anything because they didnt give me any proof so dont know what yo say, just i dont know obviously the accounts they mention in the mail.

2-Multiple persons during KYC, this is the weirdest part, i was at my home with people but OBVIOUSLY when i was completing KYC only me was on camera, i completed it and message of "Verification ompleted" appeared, and i supposed all ok, and even on my acc , the screenshots, you can see my verification is completed....
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Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting
by
ahshik753
on 28/02/2025, 10:28:05 UTC
i had a problem with this casino, a serious one as i think they stole me 11 000 USD, if any moderator can check it.....


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533711.new#new
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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 28/02/2025, 08:43:08 UTC
That use of public Wi-Fi could have caused you some issues, if indeed you are innocent. I think the best thing to do if you are not satisfied with the verdict is to try to make a complaint via AskGamblers or CasinoGuru. That both you and the casino will present some information to the mediator, and they will determine if the casino lied or not.

I asked them proof of that, but hey are just copying pasting the same that you can see on images , if the yshow me some proof i can accept it, but for me is clearly a hard scam for me.... if my ip coincides just 5min with that accs because i used public wifi.........


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Re: FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 27/02/2025, 23:12:59 UTC
If i understood everything correctly, FortuneJack says that during the KYC procedure, you were not the only one in the view of the camera? It means you were asked to take a selfie photo right, as part of the KYC process. The second one is multiaccounting, which i know is prohibited in most casinos, but can this be proven. The email you shared also stated that they reserve the right to qualify an account of a family memeber, friend... as yours, and hence multiaccounting, is that right? Does that mean i and my brother can't play on the casino?

@FortuneJack representative is active in the forum, so it would be nice if he can give more information on this. @Holydarkness, do you have any contact at FortuneJack, maybe you can ring them to make some things clear about this case.

I understood that they are saying i wasnt the only person during the selfie , weird that the verification was completed and they said this half day later....

The multiaccounting i cant give an answer more than i dont know these accs and they arent on my family....


The weird part is when they detected, if is true, multiacccounting.... why they didnt block my acc at deposit if is true and they do at the end? they were expecting me to lose my deposit or what, if is true why not block at first deposit
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FORTUNEJACK scammed me over 11.000 USD
by
ahshik753
on 27/02/2025, 22:41:18 UTC
Hello everyone,im feeling really depressing knowing that i been scammed for such money from fortunejack.



WHAT HAPPENED?


I opened one account , deposited 4LTC, and ended with 92 LTC using sportsbook.

I tried to withdraw and they requested KYC, i completed it(appeared message of verification completed),after this they said they are reviewing my account and, half day later they accused me of 2 things:

1.Not passing the KYC saying that there were multiple persons, this very weird because always was only me on camera.
2.Multiaccounting, and sharing some users that i dont know.

I been thinking almost all day since i got this notice what could happen but i cant find an explanation,point 1 always was only me on camera and point 2 , i dont know these accs , im from Bangladesh and here i connected to public wifi many times,also internet providers can provide same ips to same region, maybe thats the reason they "linked" my account, but honestly i think they saw this as the easiest way to dont pay the 11.000 USD.

Heres my profile, verified , but they say i didnt complete KYC  Embarrassed

https://talkimg.com/image/qgOt9

Heres the adjustement they made on my account -88LTC Sad

https://talkimg.com/image/qge0a

And here they responde through mail

https://talkimg.com/image/qgWcN


For me those 11 000 USD means a lot of money, i asked them through mail to explain me a little bit at least some proofs of multiple persons during KYC as they alegated, but they didnt answer, just said they cant change their decision.


Any idea how can i get my funds back?