Im not sure that Betpanda will give you your money back because, as I understand it, you created an alt-account which was not self excluded and you continued playing with that account. Had you won money, could they demand it back? Probably not. So people could abuse the self-exclusion, if the system worked like that.

Sorry for your loss, but at least its 45k and not 450k. It might take a long time, but you can pay it back. Staying away from gambling from now on would be wise, because it seems you have developed a gambling addiction.

And it is in poor taste to ask the community to help you pay your debts back.
Maybe this whole topic is a scheme for you to scam Bitcointalk users  .

Many users posted sympathetic words because they could've suffered like you. Your story's made ppl think about how they shouldn't fall in the same gambling hole chasing losses. You said the banks weren't giving you a loan so how are you repaying the debts ?

When your father died with $200k debts it must've caused stress for your family. You should've understood how important money is to ppl that's why it's sad story you gambled it & lost. If you can't get loans from banks you'll have to tell the ppl you've stolen from. Tell them the truth because many ppl can forgive.

I don't see the point of this is if you are the problem, after self excluding yourself you Still went on to create new accounts. This is a sign of discipline and indecisiveness. This isnt the companies fault although I don't know how you opened multiple accounts without them detecting unless you used different bank details and personal informations to run the KYC process. You need to learn how to control yourself

Sorry to hear what you have just experienced but I dont think Betpanda should give your money back because you did it intentionally as you are aware that you are having gambling problem that you cant control.
Do not blame the casino because they did not block your new account, even if they did it earlier, I do believe that you'll try to find other way to have new account or maybe to use the fund in other casino because you are addicted.
There is nothing you can do now except accept the fact and try to find a way to pay your debt, I know it is hard but you are responsible for what you do.
Also, try to get a professional help for your addiction.

You must be joking. I don't quite understand how the gambling site owes you money.

Or did you gamble with someone else's money and lose and now you want the money you lost from Betpanda?
The other thing is, if you know you are addicted, go and get treatment. Otherwise, when you find money, you will gamble again and experience other victimizations.

You've accepted it's your fault so now you'll have to forget what happened. It's better if you're thinking how to give back $45k to ppl who've trusted you to keep their money safe. I hope you won't gamble again in your life & pay back $45k.

It's good that you did learn your lesson, and it's good that we who shared our opinion here at least helped you at least a little bit and let you realize your mistakes.

As for how will you pay that debt, if you can find another income source where that will help you make more money then you will be able to pay that debt within a shorter amount of time. I would suggest that you tell the whole story to that person who let you borrow $45,000. Take all of the bad words that he will be saying because you deserves it, but in the end, you will be paying that debt. Spend your precious time working to pay that.

Seeking for help might be helpful, but if you can't find another income source, that will help you a little. It's good that you are thinking of not playing again. Like what I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with gambling as long as you're responsible. You aren't and these are the consequences. I hope that you're okay now OP, and plan on what you will do to pay those debt.

So this is how gambling addicts behave.

You already excluded your account from the said online casino, and yet you still made a new one just so you can play again. Does BetPanda have KYC before you deposit or start to play? If they do, then they shouldn't have been letting you go back again if you are using the same identification as your KYC confirmation.
But if you are using another person's information just so you can play back, then this is all your fault. Or, if they don't have any KYC on initial bets and deposits.

 

addiction is a disease


https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/6407-addiction

Anyone who has ever had a relative addicted to something knows very well that addiction is a very complicated disease, that you need to be very patient with the addicted person because they can commit suicide if they are criticized and put under pressure. If OP is really addicted, then he needs medical help and not criticism that will only make him feel bad. The casino is not to blame for anything.

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@srddev don't waste time on the internet exposing your problem, if you really want to be cured, seek medical help in real life and then try to solve your financial problems in real life.

The best way to stop gamble is to take a short course in coding to understand that any bet may be cheated even by "provably fair" casinos if you start winning "too much" or "too often". No any psychiatrist needed  

What you need to do is get into the hands of a psychologist or psychiatrist specialising in addictions. Today.  Also tell people close to you what has happened to you, making it public will make it much more difficult for you to relapse.

Hint: What you say about “trying” not to relapse is a bad mentality.

You've screwed up, big time. You have to take responsibility and make this a before and after in your life but for that you have to put yourself in the hands of professionals, tell people close to you (an anonymous forum on the internet is not enough) and make up your mind that you can never gamble a single penny again.

Even if betpanda integrate an option to set limits on your gambling time, they still not responsible for a players lack of self control, even if you set limits on betpanda accounts, you are not even safe because the urge to keep playing when the limit expires is still there. You are just looking for something to blame and nothing can actually support you man.

Get up and pick up yourself, work on yourself to not be too attached to gambling and try every possible stuffs to win your addictive behavior.

Going through the first page at least and seeing the same reply, I couldn't have agreed less with those comments there since betpanda is a no-kyc casino, so they cannot easily verify your identity in order to restrict OP from gambling in other account. and OP messed really up with his gambling addiction stupidity and loosing funds that are not his is the height of his indiscipline. I have another question, if he had used the same device and won a very good amount, would betpanda have released the money to him considering the fact that he is the same person? _{which they must have observed through his IP address}. If he was using the same device, there's no way betpanda can convince me they don't know it's the same person because they surely keep logs of IP addresses.

It is really funny how you are trying to shift the blame to BetPanda for the funds you intentionally gambled and lost. I believe nobody will buy that, and I would never say that BetPanda owes you anything. You know that BetPanda, as a gambling company, doesn't owe anything because they didn’t force you to gamble. You registered the account yourself and started gambling.

So, what I want to tell you is don't try to shift the blame to BetPanda just to calm yourself. Blame yourself for what has happened that is the only way I think you can control yourself. If you keep trying to shift blame to someone or something whenever you’re wrong, you’ll continue repeating that behavior.

It’s true that you admitted to being a gambling addict, so believe that you caused all of this yourself, not BetPanda. In fact, even if someone pities you and helps you with some funds, I believe you would still go ahead and gamble because you’re already addicted. You may even think the reason for your losses is BetPanda, and you could end up registering with another betting company.

Yes I read all those part and that was why I said he is not discipline enough to control himself, and I wonder while the betpanda site didn't found a connected account or using their IP tracker to track if he has connected accounts, most of the gambling site do track people to know if they had other accounts but I guess it was because of he has never made a strong winning to withdraw his money that is where you would start seeing drama of how he has multiple accounts. Like seriously I don't actually like this part because when losing and they are profiting they wouldn't find any fault but if you are winning and they are losing you would see casino digging out everything and how you made mistake by violating their terms and regulation.

OP must have forget about it already. He admitted he was addicted to gambling and even placed himself under self-exclusion, meaning the casino was supposed to block him from playing. But he still found a way to bypass the restriction, and now that he’s in debt, he’s trying to put the blame on Betpanda.

They won't pay you $45k because they won't say they're responsible. It's true they could've stopped you because they knew your ip address. If you'd won they wouldn't pay because you had many accounts so they're responsible but won't help you.

It's a sad story. You've created accounts to gamble & lost $45k which didn't belong to you. Why did you keep $45k money which belonged to other ppl ?